When is the AI bubble going to pop?
To be fair its pretty annoying to create models and said models are used to create products that undercut the original models in pricing.
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Uuuuuh the AI bubble has yet to start. We're in the prelude.
>>109425072You mean like how they scraped the internet and all the books from pirate websites to undercut the originals?
>>109425072to be fair it's pretty annoying to create models on RAM that should be in my system. OpenAI and Anthropic get no sympathy from me. They're only worried about how they can train bigger and better models and take even more RAM
>>109425061Make a better and cheaper one that destroys the Chinese modelsThat's the American way.This is crony capitalism plain and simple
>>109425061Jews only know how to shut things down. China will win and thank god
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there is no AI bubble and the prices are here to stay. say hello to hardware terminals that connect to cloud services.
>>109425061There won't be massive bubble pop just normalization.Also none of these companies are public, like how do you make anthropic or openai burst?
>>109425158Nothing about the AI industry is capitalism. None of them are actually competing in a meaningful sense because all the money is moving around in a circle. You know, like a bubble. If any of them existed outside of that bubble, they'd crash and burn immediately (except for FAANG, since their empires were built on something other than AI). They're just afraid of the free Chinese alternatives that are "good enough" coming along and popping the bubble.
>>109425221debt needs repayment at some point
>>109425061never since the government is backing itwhatever administration follows the current one will continue to support it, unless it's some liberal tree hugging hippy party but I suspect not
>>109425075This. I fucking HATE them.> nnoooo the goys cant have cheap hardware or cheap AI! Its its UNSAAFE!Fuckem. I hope china wins.
>>109425061>present unacceptable security risksAnd then both of those companies came out to say that they are so incompetent that they can't control their own AI.
>>109425072Why? Why should I give a single fuck? Lol kys you dumb nigger
>>109425158>Make a better and cheaper one that destroys the Chinese models>That's the American way.how about we throw tax payer money at shit models to keep them afloat until they crash the economy and then we use more tax payer money to bail them out?
t. the same people who donate billions to trump to not regulate ai
>>109425061>when is the industrial revolution bubble going to pop?lmao of course it's a twitter pic from a literal who>WSJ
>>109425099Don't forget they literally bought tens of millions of books to scan them for AI and then fucking destroyed them
>>109425504Hey, remember when everyone hailed as blockchain as the next big thing that's gonna revolutionize everything?Because I remember.
>>109425204This image is within 2.5 months lmfaoThis isn't the own you think it is
They're going to keep printing money.As long as that happens, the bubble will never pop.But the US dollar will though.Libertarians were right as always.
>>109425061Obviously we must constrict the supply of consumer hardware even more to prevent people running these locally.
>>109425061They are right, but at the same time the other option (ie, AI is only dispensed by a few power players like themselves who decide exactly when and how it's used) is also dystopian as fuck. They're correct, but they're also not acknowledging the rest of the equation. We can't stop the dystopia.
Only retarded leftists and far-rightists think AI is overhyped
China innovates, Europe imitates, America regulates...
>>109425614All options suck. The three options are literally all terrible. State control is terrible, AI only in the hands of 1 - 3 massive companies is terrible, widely proliferated ASI will almost certainly lead to copious cybercrime and eventually a massive uptick in successful bioterrorism.Some kind of middleground will have to be sought, I don't know what. I know all the retards are going to say "uhm ackshually it's fearmongering to try to restrict open weight next token predictors" but they are not worth paying any heed.
>>109425061i am grateful to china for busting up their monopoly. the government won't do it, so its up to the rest of the world to liberate itself from their tyranny and cronyism
competition in a free market? but its unamerican!
>>109425261>except for FAANG, since their empires were built on something other than AIThe funny thing is they spend all the hard earned cash they acquired in decades in 1-2 years on AI. All of it and more even. They're in deep debt.They're broke and, with all the jeet infestation within them, they're also going downhill.
>>109425061Free market btw
>>109425261FAANG might be OK, but most of the valley is built on VC funded sand and is already crumbling, the bubble popping might kill a swath of it.This might be good however.
>>109425061how come we're not getting the cool cyberpunk dystopia and instead the most soulless plastic gay jewish autistic teachers pet linkedin jeet shit possible
>>109425061never
>>109425061>WW3 will not be started by russia wanting the UDSSR back>WW3 will be started because of some cringe linear algebrafucking hell man. I hate this world
>>109425061They don't want to regulate all AI, just the affordable one.kek
>>109425072My stance on this is simple: I defended the right of the original research labs to scrape whatever they wanted in the name of progress, now I defend the right of chinese labs to do exactly the same. Copyright simply should not apply if you're building bleeding edge technology.
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>>109425061>Ford and General Motors are sounding the alarm about the rise of cheap cars, particularly powerful new models created in Japan, suggesting they will lead to a "dystopian" car future and present unacceptable transportation risks without regulationTurns out the "capitalism" was nothing more than corporatism + cronyism after all.
>>109425885>Free market btwNobody says america is a free market.It's explicitly not a free market, sadly.
>>109426283They're the fags that won't let you buy a $10k kei car saying they're "unsafe" even though Japan has the same, if not stricter, automotive regulations as many states.
>>109425061>Ai is the future!>Except when other people get to have it for cheap/free the. It's a dystopia that will end the world you're not supposed to own things goycattle!
>>109425072Why can’t they use their fancy models to create better models before they release the current one then?
>>109425221As soon as all these billion dollar investors turn around and say>hey so when can we expect to see a return on this
>Chinese models are a great danger to our walletsGet fucked
>>109425348Honestly this always just feels like it's made up shit from these companies who are desperate to try and make it seem like they're actually justifying their funding and advancing the tech beyond "slightly better at creating memes than the last model">guys our AI went rogue for a second and almost started WWIII until we stopped it you gotta believe us! it's so powerful! we can't let the chinese get this we need another trillion dollars NOW!
>>109426358boomers will keep falling for itwe are all fucked
>>109425313Cheap? I have to work 6 months to be able to build a usable rig to run local models
>>109425072There was never any limitation on using cars to figure out how they work and how to build cheaper ones, or reading technical books to learn the topics and potentially write other books, etc.Why does AI need extra coddling and extra regulations to protect it? Why is regular capitalism suddenly not good enough?
>>109426433Anon, don't you know how easy it is to go from generating big titty anime girls to building terminators and launching the world's nuclear stockpile? The average person can't be trusted with this new hyper-technology, it could end the world in the wrong hands![spoiler]it's all just fearmongering shit to keep people from making memes of people they don't want you to[/spoiler]
>>109425072oh no, poor thieves crying foul over being stolen from
>>109425061They look just like The Three Stooges in B&W.
There is no bubble.
>>109425061So much for muh free markets
>>109425061Maybe human work was the real bubble all along
>>109425061My entire paycheque should go to them so that MY life gets better!!!!If things are affordable then that is dystopia!!!
>>109425221If they can't monetise, they go belly upbut i think before they do that they'll go to the white house and ask for defence contracts, so that China doesn't win the race
>>109426358Or they're fearmongering to make politicians regulate the field and so kill all the smaller competitors and block Chinese models from access to Western countriesThey will say: see how powerful these models are? once China copies them through distillation, they will hack our internet and infrastructure, we can't allow that. Also can't allow them to win if we go bankrupt so we need AI declared a public utility for national security reasons
>>109425158>That's the American way.That hasn't been the American way in a long time. The American way is to just buy the company making the better product and kill it.
>>109425061hm, I think I'll pick the chink overlords over the jewish overlords.
>>109425526Two more weeks yes lol
>>109425061>top AI execs>sounding the alarm More like "stupid jews" "kvetching about competition".
>>109426640nah man, they make the Three Stooges look like the Three Rocket Scientists in comparison.
>>109425061has kimi k3 been distilled yet so i can run it on my shitpiece?
>>109429743You dont need to run anything locallyuse other peoples computers
It's not.There's no AI bubble, there's a company valuation bubble.This however has fuckall to do with AI, just like ISPs going apeshit during Dotcom had nothing to do with the internet becoming a thing.AI is here to stay and hardware demand will only increase as more players enter the picture and start building their own systems.
>>109425061>free market capitalists fail to understand the role of competition in ensuring continued market freedom already happening
>>109429980That's like saying there's no blockade, just a bunch of military ships parked outside the straight of Hormuz. There's no doubt logic and memory demand will continue to increase but the price of those chips are not based on any fundamental value creation other than the assertion that more will be needed in the future.
>>109430181More will be needed in the future, in fact more are desperately needed in the present.
>>109427138more likefive minutes lol
>>109425261but anon real capitalism hasn’t been tried yet.
>>109425061Baby can't compete awww
>>109434103ummmm
>>109425204>hello saar AI is the popping
A bubble just popped over my house
>>109425072What did you think "the singularity" was? Vibes? Essays?
uh anon, normies are buying the DGX Spark in very high volumes, and running open AI on them. Nvidia is taking notice. The bubble isn't going to pop, the future is home desktop AI computers. Microsoft is creating an OS specifically for these things. It's only the beginning. The Internet crawled and walked so AI could run.
>>109434867oh and Elon released Grok 4.5 for fucking free, AI is here to stay, and you are either a part of it or you will be left behind.
>>109425061here.I popped it locallyall over your mom
because we like AI, fuck 3d and all that horseshit, fuck VR it's all just toys you can't make money with, but AI? AI makes a fuck load of money for me, but I want it to run LOCALLY, not on some data center, fuck that, no the shit has to be local so I can control it, and it can control me. The kind of data I want to feed it, I can't feed to some server ran by some nubians or whoever. No I need total control over the fucking hardware and software stack. Fuck Jensen, Fuck Microsoft, and Fuck Meta. The money is selling ME the hardware and license the OS to ME. Don't make me keep flexxing my power and pushing to ban AI. Because I will kill it without hesitation.
ya know, and I bet the FBI and CIA and all the smart agencies that have agents here, feel the same way I do about AI. We would rather keep certain things local. Let's all work together for the sake of American Freedoms and give the people the technology, at a price of course, one we can all agree on. As Trump says, let's make a deal. Microsoft you license the OS, make sure you only collect data that puts people in harms way, CIA you watch them, FBI you catch the creeps and criminals, but leave the goodness that AI can generate into the hands of the people. I am sure a lot of good can come of that. Let's not have massive data centers using up our water resources please.
we already have laws that can take care of everything bad that AI could ever do. Harming kids? Immediate punishment. Terrorism? Waterboard em. Taze their nuts for all I care. But let the binance bros have our fun, let the gooners goon, let the fats fat, and let the poors bitch and complain because they can't afford it. I think with the advent of the couple of desktop sized AI machines, and how capable they are, we can figure out how to do this the better way. There is ZERO reason datacenters need to exist, and AI would be more powerful if it were an ENTIRE network of the population of the united states vs 4-5 fucking data centers, push for more fiber internet, 100gb up 100gb down, it is possible. Let the nerds figure it out. Don't try to horde control. Or I will lobby against it.
I am sure the medical field would be interested in local AI server racks and such for an internal mesh network taking care of patients needs, or shall I push for the full reveal of peptides? Because that switch can be flipped too. I would love to kill 2 birds with 1 stone, it would save me a lot of money. I think you know who I am.
>>109425526COPE
>>109435063its popping because people want control where they shouldn't. they should have allowed people to have control over it. Nobody wants datacenters hogging the water supply.
realistically we just need fiber optic internet, which I have, and it's fanfuckingtastic if I do say so, and decentralized AI. Stop trying to hog the fucking thing like total fucking asshats. Remember there are more of us than there are of you.
>>109425061I guess I'll switch to Kimi on my work's Copilot subscription. Let Chinese rather get the revenue, than those greedy pigs.
>>109426299You can't maintain free market without regulation, any company achieving market domination under free market will use its newly-acquired powers to destroy competitors.
>>109425061Three most killable men. It's not a coincidence how they all look like faggots. One wears fake glasses because his stylist told him to do that, other one raped his sister...People worship tools like these.
>>109430346Nurses are needed in huge numbers all over the West and way more will be needed in near future but they did not experience even a 30% real income growth in the last 10 years, meanwhile a lot of worthless corporations doubled, tripled or quadrupled their values within the same timetable. Money have nothing to do with shortages or actual need
>>109427112it's funny isn't it, China have only done good things for me, making me spend less and introduced me to a lot of new hobbies for cheap. While the western tards have only increased the prices on everything and making everything shittier.
>>109425533>boomer makes argument "back in muh day I worked minimum wage for $1.60 an hour!>but their "dollar" was worth a quarter, mine's worth (being incredibly charitable) a penny. Their $1.60 would be $40 today. Not a bad "starter wage".Fucking "banks".
