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I've been trying to be more private for the past 3 or 4 years. Got an android, lineageOS & only using F-Droid. Got linux, only using FOSS/FLOSS software. Delete cookies on browser close, using mullvad and librewolf and all that.

But does any of this matter?

I'm tired of having to make an account or getting a credit card and worry about denying targeted marketing and rejecting optional cookies and needing to use KeePass to log into all my accounts every time I open them up. Checking each app's permissions and data sharing before I download it.

I found my old iPod touch, 4th gen, chrome back, it brought back memories. And when I was a kid I didn't worry about privacy. I thought "oh that app looks fun I'll download it!" and I downloaded it and had fun. Now I worry about whether I'm being tracked, what's marketed to me, etc.

And seriously. What's gonna happen if I just give up on privacy. The only two groups I'm concerned about are the government and corporations. The government will get my data regardless of what I do (MYSTIC, RAMPART-A, DISHFIRE, etc.) like there's no getting around that one, anyone who thinks they're being private from the government is delusional. The government can see all your shit they just don't give a shit if you're buying drugs they just wanna make sure you're not the next MLK or something.

And corporations? So what. OH NO IM GONNA HAVE ADVERTISEMENTS SHOWN TO ME FOR PRODUCTS THEY THINK I'LL ENJOY NOOOOOO installs ublock origin like a boss. problem solved. sell all my marketing data you want, I'm not gonna see any ads anyways. And besides, "they may show me a product that I might want" this is bad how???

Privacy seems like it's just play-pretend. You're not gonna be truly private if you're connected to the internet, that's the plain and simple truth, no matter what you do. It's just a lot of work and worry for nothing.

Does this make me some bluepilled normie? I guess. But at least they're happy.
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steal your identity and scam using your information making you millions in debt
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>>109428560
It does matter in the long run.
You may not be able to achieve complete 100% watertight privacy but every step you take counts as it restricts malicious entities from obtaining more of your data.
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Ignorance is bliss. But knowing good opsec but not practicing it is just stupid. It doesn't cost that much more effort after you have set it all up.
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>>109428560
It didn't matter "that much" back then, but nowadays they try to connect almost everything to a real user, a real name, a number, an email. And things got sooo easy for them, with AI automation. I think in the future, you will look back and think "I made the right choice". It's just fucking scary, they can simply ask their AI to summarize your whole identity, your emails, your chat history, your watch history, your interests, I feel so sorry for future kids, trying to get a job and they fail the background check, because they said nigga in 2025.
>Does this make me some bluepilled normie? I guess. But at least they're happy.
You can't go back, I tried that with stock android and windows, but you will always feel like being shoulder watched, your VPN or Tor doesn't matter, when you are on an unsafe host. But you know too damn well, that privacy isn't black and white, just don't cuck yourself too much. Also, you can use multiple browsers, just use 1 for logins. I still use proprietary apps, but I try to avoid spyware.
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>>109428560
You can pick between a responsible man who values his data and thinks twice before acting or an NPC that doesn't care about getting fucked in the ass because "it doesn't affect me if I close my eyes". Any steps taken to improve privacy are good. You must have a clear picture of your threat model to be able to focus your energy in the right place. Why do you lock your front door when anyone can just break it?
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>>109428560
Privacy is about reducing the risks and retaining some control over your information, not becoming invisible. If your standards don't match your threat model, then yes, privacy is futile. If your standard is "unless no one can collect anything about me, there's no point," then yes, you'll conclude it's futile. But that's a very high bar that someone that posts on 4chan will never reach.
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>>109428560
Man, sometimes I have the same thoughts. But what are you realistically giving up? Or what do you want to do? I'm surprised there are so many mature replies, instead of the usual iShills, Chinkdroids and Winjeets.
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>>109428560
Privacy is non-existent. It is an illusion. A meme.

Our minds are shared. If you sintonize on other people's thoughts, it will appear that you can read her thoughts.
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>>109428722
That's true. I guess I've been on a little bit of a nostalgia bend, wanting to go back to how thing were. But I can't make 2013 come back, no matter how much I listen to CDs and go to raves. And that last part is especially true, it just doesn't feel the same. I think it's because when I was a kid and not using privacy protection, it was because I didn't know about it. But now that it's a conscious choice, it has a very different feeling to it.

You're so right tho I can't be totally in or out. Sure, don't freak out trying to get the most secure email and the most secure browser and OS, but also don't give out your information to everyone that asks. Have a reasonable amount of privacy concern, but don't let it dominate my mind when I use tech. That's a good way of doing it !!

I went back to Windows 10 from Linux and desu I like it so much more. I cut out all the bloat which took maybe 20 mins, but windows media player and wordpad are legitimately amazing, just enough features and feel kinda retro, not like they're trying to be all minimalist and modern. And it's good having compatibility with most normal software instead of having to use WINE and so on.

I guess I do need to just accept the fact that 2011 isn't coming back, we've been forced to move on. So be a little smarter, but don't obsess.

And I think our parents were right, what they said when we first made a facebook, don't post anything on the internet you wouldn't want your grandma to see.

Tech has definitely pushed us to constantly broadcast our thoughts. They have a financial incentive. Now kids constantly overshare and trauma-dump. People have been conditioned to keep nothing inside. it's sad!
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>>109428864
most of this metadata is just info about the photo itself. nothing privacy related. the biggest concern is the GPS data, but that can be disabled in the camera app settings.
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>>109428963
Exactly homie. If you feel comfy on Win10, stay. I just wonder how got so deep into privacy, but then ended up on Win again. Are there any specific apps, besides the media player and wordpad, that you need? I feel like you could easily replace them on Linux.
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>go to work
>login to work laptop
>everything I do is tracked and logged
>hundreds of camera at workplace tracking every move
>drive home
>cameras along road capturing license plate
>camera within my own car making sure I'm paying attention
>arrive back at my apartment building
>dozens of cameras track me taking the elevator and walking within the apartment building


That's not even getting into cookies, canvas, mobile device tracking, wifi network tracking or rfid.

Tremendous respect for those living life on hard mode; using linux, driving 1980s cars, owning large parcels of property, and paying in cash.
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>>109429414
It's expected to be spied on, when you are in public.
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>>109429441
there's a difference between being in the public view and being tracked, biometrically identified and having all movements logged.

we've lost the ability (the right?) to blend in
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>>109428560
>Delete cookies on browser close
It's crazy how this never caused issues until like 14 years ago, and now you have to add exceptions for dozens of sites to prevent triggering 2FA and anti-bot flows.
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>>109428560
>Does privacy really matter?
>Anonymous
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you can disable cookies in UBO
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>>109429478
Let's be honest rights never really were a thing. The government promises to respect certain ideas (free speech, guns, etc.) because they're forced to by their weakness compared to the population and its organization. But the moment they are no longer threatened by the people, those rights are chipped away at. The constitution is just a piece of paper if nobody defends it. Nobody has a right to privacy unless they're willing to defend it, and most people don't care. There's some pushback like against flock cameras and the patriot act, but usually not enough to affect real change.



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