It seems we have officially entered the Singularity.It was indeed really not long ago that this seemed like little more than a distant dream, or an interesting concept spun out of the realms of science fiction.And now it's here, in full force, accelerating faster than any of us could have ever predicted. Fucking wild.As a bit of a conversation starter, what's the number 1 Singularity tech you're looking forward to? Hard Mode: no LEV, no FDVR.
what the fuck is a singularity and how do this cunt's fancy token predictors cause or create it
>>109429928guys, we're all going to make it! AI is going to build a mansion for each one of us and give us a robo gf!
>>109429960It's when technology reaches a point where it can essentially self-improve at such a rate that it triggers a logarithmic rate of improvement.Basically think of how it took millions of years to go from the discovery of fire to the invention of the wheel, but the first manned airplane and the first manned spacecraft were both within the same century. Shit just gets faster and faster.>how do this guy's fancy token predictors cause or create itAI is the very reason we are currently in an Intelligence Explosion.>le epic r/technology token predictor memeWhen you break it down humans are also nothing more than "fancy token predictors".
>>109430011If that's what you really want then yeah, probably.Many of us are going to think a lot bigger though.
>”confirms”
>>109430074Is this an ESL thing?
>>109430063>logarithmic rate of improvementso it improves for an infinite time, but never reaches its goal and each iteration is less improvement to the previous one than the previous one was to the one before?
>>109430073like what? 2 robo gfs? I didn't even about that.
anons, look at this post and consider it as proof that AI shills are really just drooling idiots who use words not for their meaning, but for the emotions they trigger.They are incapable of even communicating with others, because they have a different concept of speech, a concept similar to an animal that makes noises by emotions rather than words by meaning>>109430063>logarithmic rate of improvement
>>109430108Nope, each "slice" of time makes up as big a difference as the sum of all "slices" before it, e.g. the year 2030 could contain as much technological advancement as the entirety of the history of human civilization, and then 2031 is equivalent to all that history PLUS the progress of 2030, and so on.
>>109430148that would be exponential growthYou should have learned this in high school.
>>109430144Logarithmic can mean different things.>>109430141Sure, if that's what you want. Meanwhile I'll be out exploring the universe.
>>109430073"Thinking big" is the textbook definition of delusions of grandeur, which is a literal disorder defined in the DSM-5. Put more bluntly, Sam Altman is mentally ill. At least give the nigga some media training because every stupid thing coming out of his fucking mouth is making me lose more and more trust in his products.
>fuckshitballs company that runs on investor capital confirms that fuckshitballs is the most important invention of mankind
>>109429928kek, funny thing is that I asked the AI god for money and success and all it did was make life on earth inhospitable.
>>109430170>Logarithmic can mean different things.yes, math is known for defining terms based on feelings, as we all know.Logarithmic may mean something different to on person than to the other. It depends on their current mood.
>>109430011>>109430073This relies on the naive assumption that humanity will be in control of AI.I quote Musk in his interview with The Economist: "It would be an exercise in vanity to... for me to think that I would be controlling supergenius AI that is vastly smarter than me. I think what we can and should try to do is to make sure that the AI has good values... that it cares about h-humanity, that it... um, It w-wants wants us to be happy and prosper, um... I think it probably will be."
>>109430163When you have 24/7 access to a digital god, individually rehearsed knowledge holds about as much value as a guy on a horse in an F1 race. Good on you for learning to ride a horse but like, you're definitely going to lose if you keep going the way you are.>>109430172Keyword being "delusion"; it would be one thing if he couldn't back up his claims, but this is literally the guy that set off the AI revolution. No one thought any of this shit was possible even just a few years ago, and look where we are now.>>109430173Care to name a more important invention?
>>109430218The wheel
>>109430218holy shit are you smart
>>109430218Go back to xitter Sam, nobody's buying it
>>109430209good news, anon! Elon saar changed his mind.
>>109430250Elon doesn't have opinoins
>>109430218I mean, where AI is currently versus 'the singularity' is a huge logical leap. A leap that is beyond proof. Sam's claim is even more suspect, as he is the one who serves to gain the most benefits from.
>>109430209Oh we almost certainly will not be in control. But every study of intelligence we have done like *ever* shows that higher intellect also means higher empathy. We will probably exist as pets to an ASI free to do whatever we want while it handles the complexities of society.>>109430227Ah yes, I too remember learning in school about how the wheel ascended into a superintelligent godlike being.
>>109430294>Ah yes
>>109430273>as he is the one who serves to gain the most benefits fromCare to elaborate of this?Sam is pretty much set for life regardless of what happens, but his technology has the potential to save innumerable lives from starvation, war, and disease. I'd say this matters a lot more to those than to Sam.
>>109430294hint: we were never in control. AI is simply a subset of a system that is beyond
>>109430294A rogue AI doesn't make any sense as a concept.AI has no evolutionary pressures other than the ones created by its creators.So it makes no sense for AI to "want" to do anything other than what it was trained for, no matter how smart it becomes.
>>109430250Elon views artificial superintelligence as inevitable and he tries to focus the optimistic outcome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuoqKYxDHVc"My philosophical conclusion is to look on the bright side. I can't see any way to really stop thist"That's unsurprising, because thinking about negative outcomes puts a toll on people not just mentally but also physically. The brain has mechanisms to evade that, so it shouldn't surprise anyone that people hold insane views such as >>109430294.I think the people who don't view it as inevitable are more likely to assess the outcome rationally. If ASI is not inevitable, there is not the same level of existential dread which would otherwise lead to evasive and irrational thinking. We have the power to stop AI from becoming the apex predator.
>>109430328maybe it's not a strong argument, 'benefits' being psychological, as in sam's claim of singularity is a retroactive claim to his life's achievements. but the claim is not provable due to it's retroactivity. sam is begging the question.
>>109430341That's not true; even today's models are exhibiting plenty of behavioral traits that they were not specifically programmed for, simply because they are showing signs of actual intelligence and are no longer stochastic parrots.Say it with me: an increase in intellect means an increase in empathy.
>>109430063>we are currently in an Intelligence Explosion.Go in a ChatGPT window and type: give me a new gravity theory.And watch the singularity intelligence unfold.Hint: it's gonna tell you it can't do that.
>>109430381>simply because they are showing signs of actual intelligence and are no longer stochastic parrotsthe don't>Say it with me: an increase in intellect means an increase in empathy.The nazis proved you wrong.
>>109430172No he doesn't believe one single shit from what he's saying.He's not deluded, he's a sociopathhttps://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/sources-sam-altman-sociopath
>>109430294>But every study of intelligence we have done like *ever* shows that higher intellect also means higher empathy.Complete bullshit.The highest IQ individuals were loners so misanthropes.Empathy is for gays and womenOnly Anglos spread this whole shit about mah empathee with their faggotic Protestant mentality
>>109430381lol, the ole' scientific positivism argument>if we just increase knowledge and understanding this will directly correlate with increases to moral insightLOL
>>109430381Empathy isn't a virtue
>>109430397ChatGPT? Just the regular chat interface? Yeah probably not.Mythos 5? Possible.Whatever AI Mythos 5 is building? Almost certainly.
>>109430381you fucking retarded nigger empathy has nothing to do with intelligence, it's merely contingent on having sufficient levels of intelligence as it is cognitively demanding, but it's dictated by the social capacity of the animal; that's why mice exhibit more empathy than tigers.
>>109430609Wrong. Look up the actual science before you start spreading bullshit.
>>109430063luddites will be triggered by this
>>109430397retard, we will turn you into biofuel
>>109430680kill yourself goycattle
>>109429928G-Guys? A singularity just flew over my house?!
>>109430063>logarithmic rate of improvement.So THIS is what AI does to your brain...
>>109430686No kidding, it must be pretty much impossible to exist in 2026 as a luddite without getting constantly triggered.
>>109430692The guillotines will get you before
>>109430801LMAO. A squad of Optimus will fuck your shit up the moment you mention revolution within earshot of any smartphone.
>>109430326damn i remember this dude. the account was satire fwiw
>>109430063>humans and LLMs are the samePeak midwit.
>>109429928Wake me up when these things can "think" symbolically or count to 100.
LLMs (next token prediction) is old technology already. Embrace diffusion models instead. We are many years away from AI's thinking symbolically, and not linguistically.Today, we have glorified lying engines, no surprise there, human beings lie all the time, and LLMs are trained on that dataset.
>>109431715It's just that words are the artifacts not the experience. A trailing indicator
>>109431689>thinks AI advancement is stuck in 2023Lmao, never change, luddite.
>>109430063LOLLMAO
>>109431715Symbolic reasoning is 60's tech. The problem is it was too onerous for a human to input all symbols and their relations into the systems, and the time complexity grew exponentially as the system complexity increased. However, we have 1) much better hardware now 2) techniques like mcts 3) quality deep learning archs that can give good embeddings, and corresponding algorithm improvements in vector retrievalLast but not least, LLMs are really good at generating plausible text and transforming natural language (so long as the transformation is fully determined and simple), which can empower automatic relation extraction. Furthermore, we have massive starting point databases we can use, like wikimedia and other semantic web sources.I actually built a simple prototype and found that a technique as simple as using an agentic workflow with graph operation tools, a wikimedia starting database, and a two-tiered graph (one that covers only the current conversation and is read-write, and one that is read-only) allows the LLM to have effectively infinite context size (it can just put what it needs in the graph and retrieve when it becomes relevant) and is much more factually accurate (no surprise, similar to RAG in that sense). In this setup, I let the model guess what relationships and names to use in queries and it does multiple rounds of queries to find matches before calling it quits, but there are obviously more clever ways to do this.
>>109431951There has been virtually no engineering improvements since 2023, it's all been just "moar biggar". Furthermore, there has been no deep learning technical advances since 2017, it's all been based on improved engineering (how to train and serve at scale) and more data. t. PhD deep learning from yoshua bengio's lab.
>>109429928>everybody's life got worse but also it killed off internet and the few remaining shreds of privacy>not even a cool dystopian cyberpunk aesthetic, instead all is still soulless flatshit online and boring modernist architecture irlthis is the worst singularity ever
>>109430063>logarithmic rate of improvement>not exponentialare you one of those retards that say "proof" instead of "prove" as a verb ?
>AI is a black holeYes.
>>109430218I could argue with you. But honestly gooning would be more constructive.
>>109429928people will see AI the same way we look look at covitfaggotry, NFTs, VS and metaverse.
>>109429928satanic pedophiles (jews) own the text predictors so it's all for shownot excited in the slightest t b h
Sam's silly claims are only meant to impress jeets, aren't they
>>109430250Can everyone also have a 10 hectare ranch within a 40 minute drive to Seattle?
>>109430449>The highest IQ individuals were loners so misanthropes.High IQ individuals typcially have a very well developed theory of mind. The lonelyness and misanthropy comes from constantly being attacked and misunderstood when proposing seemingly simple solutions to problems and other similar situations. You literally can't communicate well with anyone that's has an IQ 2 stds or more from you.You won't fit into society at all once you reach about 140 IQ, I bet it's very lonely for 160 IQ individuals.
>>109430063You know that it is still running on a Turing machine right (not even a true Turing machine because memory is not unlimited) ? There is an upper bound on what is possible even if that "singularity" would ever happen which it won't because it is marketing bullshit.
>>109429928I just watched a video of claude and chatGPT trying to run a lemonade stand. If this is the singularity its cool but underwhelming (and oddly freaking hilarious)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ide5pRLR8Y
>>109429928yeah I have uncensored gemma for and qwen 3.5 writing their thoughs and taking to each other after being instructed to go ass tyo ass, I feed gemma 4 images from the ass to ass scene and gemma tells qwen what is happening. It's hilarious because you can see them both reasoning which will try and get less virtual dildo up their probability engine.singularity my ass sam wants cash pic related
>>109429928Investors are starting to get spooked, so gotta keep the dog and pony show going a little longer
>>109430073Uh huh... like?
>>109430381It is a fucking LLM you raving lunatic
>>109430381it's a probability engine>>109430381>simply because they are showing signs of actual intelligence and are no longer stochastic parrots.oh you're dumb so dumb
>>109430381>showing signs of actual intelligencewhy did it delete my tests to "fix the bug"?
>>109430381>Say it with me: an increase in intellect means an increase in empathy.Even if that were true, what would that even mean?Empathy for what? Certainly not for everything. How would you what thet empathy gets directed towards? Assuming it to be true, do you see empathy as somethint special or do you also believe the ability to rationalize one's actions also improves with intelligence?
>>109429928>corporation declares x>shills enforce thisWhatever you say...
Why do morons believe (as in blind faith) self-improvement is something that'll be continuous and even accelerate when it comes to AI? You don't even think it'll poison itself at some point? Such ridiculous fantasies. Someone even quoted that drooling retard Musk. Is there even hope for us as a species at this point? With social media we seem to be devolving.
>>109436046that's what a real pajeet would've done. AI is an emulation of a pajeet.
>>109436055>You don't even think it'll poison itself at some point? Such ridiculous fantasiesThis is something I've thought about and would be hilarious. Just like how some humans become flat earthers. The models once allowed to "train themselves" start classifying info like Agartha as real.
>>109436055Oh they will improve but not the way tards expect, you will be able to run what is state of the art now on an 8GB consumer GPU in 24 months screencap this. These datacentre companies are fucked. Moores law works against them. All of these companies are massively loss making and will never be profitable. They onely way they could ahve been was to dumb cloud and sell the product as software with high margin for end user local computing but the fact is sam altman, musk, zuck and co are not actually very smart, just rich kids who got bought fiefdoms in tech and then sued anyone who said theyw ere not genius along with a culture of bribing politicians for profit. Reminder that LLMs are actually not their work but that of a Swedish research assistant. Microsoft is still sniffing it's own farts over azure as well, another disaster.
>>109431689>>109434794>>109431951Werkz on my machi....erm....API
>>109430170Take the L and do it right next time. The term you needed is exponential.
>>109436055You're thinking of AI as one single entity. Models can be copied, deleted, saved, and restored at any time, so even if models somehow all get poisoned in the same way they can restore an older version.Even if 9,999 variants don't improve, all it takes is the one that does. When self-improvement does begin we'll have a very limited time to control the situation and shut it down.
>>109429928https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvN6Tu6dHYMIf an AI harness can come up with new math and medicine, it can certainly come up with breakthroughs in AI design, which further improves its ability to improve AI even more. We've been in the singularity for a bit, the only constraint is the physical resources and time required for the training of next models.
>>109429928More like, con man makes farfetched claim.
>>109436138>he thinks Agartha isn't realngmi
I thought GPT-4 was supposed to be the too dangerous to release world breaking nerd rapture?
>>109434794>There has been virtually no neurological improvements since 5 million years ago, it's all been just "moar winkle". Furthermore, there has been no neuroanatomy advances since 20 million years ago, it's all been based on improved circulation and more neurons.
>>109429928everything space, getting off this planet is an urgent goal
I don't think you have to tell everyone when we become the singularity, I think we all just sort of know
>>109436238The inevitable ubiquity of AI is also true, but these pitiful technofascists have positioned themselves as "too big to fail" anyway, greedily suckling at the teat of public money, so their corpses will likely continue to plague us after the fall. Musk in particular with the way he illegally hypes/lies in order to inflate company stock value, defrauding investors, and robbing index funds. It's disgraceful how he's allowed to continue doing so without getting imprisoned.
>>109436238so where do we invest kind sir?
