It's easier than ever.It's better than ever.Microslop is getting worse than ever.So why not?
Why must it be Linux specifically? There's always other choices.
This is /g/, we all use linux. Go post this on facebook if you want to convince people.
>>109433093Mac is unironically pretty nice i think
The programs I use don't work with linux.I don't want to have my OS as my second job.Windows just werks.
>>109433109>hey I hate spyware, let me buy an even more locked down device with even more spywarewhy the fuck are you so fucking stupid?
>>109433101>we all use linuxYeah that's quite obvious how almost every /g/anon is a neet
>>109433127>why the fuck are you so fucking stupid?ask that yourself troonix mouth breather. MacOS is not locked down in any way and it doesn't have any spyware
>>109433101>we all use linux>>>/g/fwt
>>109433084linux is fucking shit
Microsoft is turning windows into an agentic operating system, something that we were dreaming about when we were kids.
>>109433234works on my machine friend
>>109433177kek
>>109433346Source? Citation?
>>109433084Decision fatigue, why the fuck is there is some options, and why are they all mostly made by a tranny?
>>109433453so many*
>>109433109Double fuck Apple forever for the iphonification of the internet.
>>109433084i dont have the attention span to tinker tranny with the FUCKING OS to work correctly but il'l gladly tinker with the only good bethesda game to work more properly
>hourly techvegan screechingimagine being a virgin incel loser that spends 24/7 in mom's basement seething that people who aren't incels don't subscribe to your techveganism
>OP be like
>>109433084Do i need to install it though? Can i just use a barebones VM from the web broser for free?
>>109433093Because everything is half broken.Because linux devs don't care about user experience.Because you can't customize it like you can customize windows.
The same people who claim abpuy Windows turning agentic are using Claude to rice their Unices and fix basic problems that could be dealt with by just reading the documentation and doing it oneself.
>>109433552I don't think you actually understand what veganism is actually about. Go ask your mom about it, I just finished fucking her.
>>109433084>>109433084I don't have any problems with Windows whatsoever. In fact I had to work on a Mac for some time on a project and now I appreciate Windows even more.
>>109433109Mac is the most mid operating system. Anything it can do, Linux or Windows does better. Idk why anyone still uses it.
>>109433093Because every other practical desktop outside of Mac and Windows is just the Linux desktop ported to a a Unix like.>>109433084>It's easier than ever.>It's better than ever.That's like going from 1 to 2%
>>109433084im happy with windows
>>109433084I just can't get myself to care about computers anymore. I'm getting into gardening. It's nice.
I would rather use windows than wayland. no, there are no serious alternatives.
>>109433844Ragebait used to be believable.
First I gotta figure out which display server I want to use, both current options are plain jank, with xlibre being a potential improvement but no distro wants to support it Second I gotta struggle with drivers for my novida 1080 cardMaybe the kernel will finally support my 9000 series CPU now
>>109433109You can't just install MacOS on your computer these days, you have to buy a speshul snowflake device that comes with MacOS
>>109434888>00:46:11You would think with all the mentally ill trannies on this board one of them would've shot Jay already for flooding the board with anti-linux anti-windows flamewar troll threads and pathetically saving them from page10 all day.
>>109433453It's because there are so many trannies that they can't make a decision. Hence the number of options.
>>109433084I dunno, Windows works and I know where things are.I tried linux and then I wanted to install some software and couldnt figure it out.I came on here and asked and people just wrote random ahit at me like sudoh-fk-u or whatever.
i fucking love Linux. Wish I hadn't have to work with Windows, especially stupid Windows Server OS.
>>109435173just use Claude Pro at this point for help, it managed to fix most of my issues or at least lead me in the right direction to fix it myself.
>>109435202But why?On windows I.press button. No claude, no problems.
>>109433084I am waiting for pc parts to go down so I can build my linux desktop
>>109435213most in Linux is a simple button press as well. Especially vidya and sometimes you need a single extra step and enable Proton. You have full control over your OS, no forced updates, no OneDrive, no stupid GUI that hides settings or makes them hard to find, no Windows trash buildup that slows down your system. Not here to convince you, if you're comfortable then stay with Windows but for me alone the performance increase, better UI and freedom was so worth it.
>>109435282No, youre right I should move.Okay anon, I move.What distro do you use?
>>109435235please look at appl entry laptop price over the years
>>109433084I just installed it
>>109435313Nta but I use debian because it's near idiot proof
>>109433101truth nuke
The second I install Linux on my daily driver I start a clock for 'in the course of making this do the basic things I want it to do, it's going to break'.I know this,and every time I know I started the clock. It's JUST a matter of time. One time it was '/boot ran out of space for kernel images' after a few months of simply using the OS. Another time it was 'Attempting to get something akin to remote desktop working completely destroyed the desktop environment'.Basic shit doesn't work. There is literally too many choices and each of them comes with compromises that aren't apparent until you're balls deep and backing out will cost you.I'm tired, man. I just want my OS to get out of my way so I can code, browse, play. It needs to just be there letting me do those things for years at a time.Not once has that happened with a Linux install. The OS becomes the hobby. I'm never going to entertain that.
>>109435313I've always been stuck with Ubuntu 24, so i can absolutely recommend that. Just make sure that after the installation you upgrade to the newest kernel and drivers using:sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade Or like the other anon said Debian.
>>109433109It just werks but troonsisters will never admit it
>>109433552A lincel permavirgin has no personality other than his manchild software holywar that exists only in his deluded manchild mind.
>>109435202NTA but I rarely could ever fix any problems on Linux even with AI because the problem was the software itself and the only way for me to "fix" it would be learning how to code and opening a PR which I obviously won't do.I at least appreciated that the AI was honest and straight up told me that it was a known bug in the software so that I don't try to waste any more time with this.
>>109435452>A lincel permavirgin has no personality other than his manchild software holywar that exists only in his deluded manchild mind.Do you think I should just switch back to windows? Can you reverse that? I wasn't that privacy cautious back then, I installed Linux for fun, to learn moar about computers, but now I'm GPL-pilled and I think that every proprietary system is unethical and spyware. I can't use Windows, without feeling like someone is watching me, same with stock android.
>>109433093>Why must it be Linux specifically? There's always other choices.Are you pretending BSD isn't a meme?
>>109435480your ISP monitors every byte sent from your modemunless you have 100% privacy, you have 0% privacythere isn't 1 MITM spying on people, there's 50
>>109433084Why is the penguin there? Put the Xbox logo there instead.
>>109435524Comforting, that they protect us. Lol what is picrel about? How did they even find out?
>>109433084Because I need Visual Studio itself and WinDbg to develop drivers for Windows.Using 2 separate Windows VMs for the job doesn't cut it. Zero workflow.
>>109435616anyone preaching privacy on 4chan is a hypocritical nigger that doesnt give a single fuck about privacy
>>109435683why are you "anonymous" then? Use your fucking real name, if you don't care about privacy, or if it's "over". Or post your online purchases!!waiting for your response to my super trvke nova, hard to counter that.
>>109433084>better than everNo it's not. Why are you lying?
>>109433084I will switch after programs I use stop supporting win10. I am good for now, but I won't be switching to the next windows version. haven't decided which distro yet. I want it to just work, but also oppose govt faggotry, like age verification.
Linux desktop will always remain dogshit. From dogshit UX/UI and DEs to dogshit wayland and systemd. This is why I stick with windows + wsl2
>>109435906>haven't decided which distro yet.The most important distros are Debian/Fedora/Arch. Every other (with a few exceptions) distro is based on those. If you are completely new:>Debian BasedMint, Zorin.>Fedora BasedBazzite, Nobara>Arch BasedCachy, Endeavour
>>109433084I run Linux. I have since the mid 90s. I also have Windows. The worst thing about Linux is how users won't shut the fuck up about Windows and Microsoft. If you're into Linux, do Linux. Linux users sound like Canadians who won't shut the fuck up about the US when most Americans only think about Canada when the hockey is on (and even then, only the northern part of the country).
>>109435940It will likely be something Debian-based, because that's what I have the most experience with. I already use Ubuntu on my work laptop and on my HTPC. But afaik both Debian and Ubuntu will be implementing age verification, so we'll see how it goes.
>>109436059>The worst thing about Linux is how users won't shut the fuck up about Windows and Microsoft.lintroons have no personalitynever havenever willi literally never tell anyone i use linux, because i refuse to interact with or associate with freetards
I'm tired, boss.
Mac just werks
>>109433844This type of soulless baseless post should be auto moderated
>>109433109macOS is built by web shitters now. They've forgotten how to make native apps.
>>109433084linux is fundamentally broken, also I hate them shilling it to prevent you from pirating, they did a shitty free clone of everything so you don't ruin their businesses basically, but I am a contrarian and will keep piracing
>>109433125/thread
>>109435480amen brother
I'm still waiting nvidia gpus to "just werks"
>>109435524Your pic has nothing to do with your ISP monitoring you.It goes like this:>guy posts threat on /pol/>other guy forwards threat to authorities>authorities request IP of poster from 4chan>4chan provides IP>authorities request customer details of IP at time from ISP>ISP provides name and address>authorities arrest name at address>authorities search name's computer and find post evidence in cache, if necessaryAt no point does the ISP need to look at what you're doing on your connection for this to work. They don't even need you to be using their DNS and so see which sites you visit.ISPs typically are not interested in monitoring you beyond what the law requires of them. Why would they want the extra liability?
>>109438210>>4chan provides IPwhy?
>>109438243You are free to leave if you don't want your IP getting logged.
>>109433084Because I feel very happy with faggots like (You) making threads like these and seething that (You) have no control over me while I'm enjoying my PC simply working and doing what I want it to do.
>>109438243Because they are compelled to by law, and they have no incentive or ability to resist.
>>109438762>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANNOT DO WHATEVER YOU WANT AND ENJOY IT! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>109438762>I'll just download tons of bloatware to do what what would only take a couple of kilobytes of RAM on Linux>I'm totally winning though guys>Looks at how customisable it is!
>>109433084>So why not?my time is precious
>>109438970It literally takes less time to install Linux than it does to complete the Windows setup process and subsequent debloating.
>>109438956>instantly moving the goalpost from "Windows is not customizable" to "muh RAM use">on a 64GB machine as if it matters>or being aware in any way that you can't compare RAM usage numbers between fundamentally different kernels despite being an "expert"Very cute, very entertaining. Love watching (You) thrash around as I deny you what you want.
>>109438992>complete the Windows setup process>what is rufus automation
>>109439014RAM use is RAM use. You can definitely care the two.
>>109439027You can automate the Linux install too and it'll still be quicker and save you more time, especially when you can just install all of your software from a repository in seconds and don't have to debloat it since it's already bloat free.
>>109438766what the fuck and why do so many people share illegal activities then? I saw the weirdest shit and confessions here
>>109439014>Very cute, very entertaining. Love watching (You) thrash around as I deny you what you want.Good luck convincing the industry of your views so that more people will adopt Linux.Pro tip: you'll die of age before it happens on a wide enough scale. Nice copium though.
>>109439028RAM use doesn't impact performance, CPU usage does. And I have more than enough RAM.>>109439040>it'll still be quicker>it'll still be better>because Linux is better>just switch alreadyIt's so easy to bully freetards. Just don't give a shit about their arguments and say that "I'm fine with using Windows". They'll simply piss and shit themselves as you deny them having control over your actions.>>109439050"the industry" already adapted Linux. As in, the enterprise and mobile industries. The desktop industry still embraces Windows as shocker shocker, the desktop Linux ecosystem is such hot shit Win11 truly is the lesser evil. And there is no grand conspiracy either, how come Windows Server was decimated by Linux in the server space if Microsoft can just control what people use?
>>109439014>linuxsucks101 useryou guys are so annoying, /g/ is gnu/linux pilled. Go on Facebook if you want to talk about windows.
>>109439071>server is actually his defenseIt matters close to none when the average home user is literally deterred from using Linux by how godawful it is.Advice: maybe try to actually make Linux' desktop ecosystem good enough so that Microsoft loses? All of you think you're oh so l33t when the bigger scheme is - nobody's gonna use something that requires constant terminal usage no matter what you do, even on the most dumbed down distros.
>>109439074Go cry to jannies to ban everyone making Windows threads, including the /fwt/ threads if your delusions led (You) to believe it is verboten to be a Windows user on /g/. Faggot.
>>109439097TL;DR - try making the home Linux ecosystem "welcoming" enough so the average joe with near-zero terminal experience can use it.
>>109439097>YOU'RE EITHER WITH ME OR WITH THEMRe-read my posts very carefully. I loathe desktop Linux. Especially it's users, the most obnoxious group of Dunning-Kruger idiots ever conceived. But I don't declare every Linux-based OS as a failure. Where the Unix-like architecture works, it works. Like servers. Where the extra elements on top were built by sane people as a singular system and not a hopscotch of FSF bullshit, it works. Like Android.Thus why I point to servers as freetards love to gloat that if Microsoft wasn't this comically evil Machiavellian monolith of a corporation and they were prohibited from bribing OEM's to ship Windows, that would magically make desktop Linux destroy Windows. But if that's what was holding it back, that would mean they could've bribed the enterprise world into using Windows Server no matter what, yet it didn't. Linux won, as Unix was the king before Linux became the shared corporate Unix replacement.There is no conspiracy, the desktop Linux ecosystem was, is, and will be shit. WinNT will forever remain the superior desktop workstation kernel, no matter how much curry shit gets poured on top.
>>109439105no. The users who refuse to use cli for anything deserve windows.
>>109439138>Thus why I point to servers as freetards love to gloat that if Microsoft wasn't this comically evil Machiavellian monolith of a corporation and they were prohibited from bribing OEM's to ship Windows, that would magically make desktop Linux destroy Windows. But if that's what was holding it back, that would mean they could've bribed the enterprise world into using Windows Server no matter what, yet it didn't. Linux won, as Unix was the king before Linux became the shared corporate Unix replacement.Microsoft's existence is why I stopped using IBM. They were the sole enablers for Microsoft to create the plague that was MS-DOS, which would evolve into Windows.
>>109439283If you don't believe why MS-DOS in itself was the beginning of bloat, let me break down why:>CP/M required 16kb to do anything>MS-DOS required 16kb to run, but 64kb to be usableBloat right there, in plain sight.
>>109439310MS-DOS 6.22 could run on a 8088.Linux had a hard requirement of at least a 386.Thus, Linux is bloat and always was.
>>109439042>what the fuckEvery website will do this unless they have some ideological stance (meaning funds and the will to fight it in a court) or a technical measure in place to prevent it (probably untested in court and plausibly able to get them in trouble, but I don't know about that in detail. Most people just have no reason to invest the time on a technical solution.)>why do so many people share illegal activities then?Most people post about illegal things which could be true, or could be false, and they do not provide evidence of the crime in the post. Even for the cases where they are true, it would be very difficult to build a case because the evidence won't be there anymore. Someone online says "I sold drugs" or something, and what then? The statement doesn't make the evidence materialise. However, in the case of that guy getting arrested for death threats, the post itself is the evidence. It's certain that a crime was actually committed, and it's certain that they can find evidence (the post itself being the evidence). The authorities are confident they can get a conviction from it, so they put the time on it to pursue it.>I saw the weirdest shitAuthorities don't spend their time investigating people for being weird.
>>109439334My point was RAM usage was Windows' core trait since MS-DOS' inception. Look at how much of a RAM hog Windows is. That RAM hog-ness has been there ever since MS-DOS (and specifically MS-DOS).>Linux is bloat because it requires a 386The reason for that was primarily because Torvalds wanted to use all the functions of his (then new, obviously) 386. By the time Torvalds started working on Linux, the 386 was already out on the market by about 6 years - even the 486 was out by then, but most likely too expensive (it was out for maybe 2 years, kind of makes sense). And if anything is to go by, it was most likely more optimized than MS-DOS had EVER aspired to be.>DOS 6.22 could run on a 8088And? 512KB minimum requirement is absolutely outrageous, compared to even its own older releases. Lest I mention MS-DOS being unable to ever run on a Z80, which CP/M could do.
>>109433084because despite all that, it's still worse than Windows
>>109433084Because I have 0 tech issues that would be fixed by switching to a different operating system. If you ever think Windows is the problem that's a skill issue and entirely on you.
>>109439741Enjoy being a mere user of your OS while I govern mine as I please.
>>109439741>If you ever think Windows is the problem that's a skill issue and entirely on you.lol lmao>>109439883based
>>109439883>Enjoy being a mere userNot that guy but that is exactly what I want to be. On Windows I'm entitled to have a working system since I'm a customer while on Linux I'm just a worthless nobody that has to cope with whatever some random guy on the internet decided is or isn't acceptable on my own computer. If I don't like that then my only other option is making my own software and I'm definitely not going to get a computer science degree just to have a working desktop.Windows does exactly what I want and never gets in the way while Linux makes me feel like I'm the bitch of some sweaty nerd that has complete control over what I can do with my PC.
>>109440199>Windows does exactly what I want and never gets in the way while Linux makes me feel like I'm the bitch of some sweaty nerd that has complete control over what I can do with my PC.And congrats on being so wrong. It's the exact opposite.
It's because GNU/Linux is memetic mind parasite. Just as I don't want ideologies to control my life, I don't want them to control my computer either. Whether a program is open source or closed source, or what its license is, practically makes no difference in daily use. GNU/Linux is a cult. Almost all Linux users (except server-side users), from anons on /g/ to the Linux users on Reddit, to Luke Smith, are prisoners of this mental parasite. You make an operating system the center of your personality. A computer is a technological device you use for 2-3 hours and then turn off. If the computer does its job while you're using it, there's no problem.TL;DR: Get a life.
>>109440279There are cultists that use Windows and especially macOS too though, what you are attributing to an operating system is actually a feature of social science.You can just as easily use Linux for 2-3 hours without joining any cult.
>>109440279You should leave this board if you have an attitude this retarded and antithetical to being here
>>109440279>"Whether a program is open source or closed source, or what its license is, practically makes no difference in daily use."Dumbest shit I've read today.
>>109440279I literally hope that microsoft becomes a forced subscription-based os, and that you actually pay for it, while still saying>"Whether a program is open source or closed source, or what its license is, practically makes no difference in daily use."
>>109435524>that crisp freshly unfolded nazi bullshit on the wallKek
>>109440299>There are cultists that use WindowsNo, there are no Windows cultists. Most of you are Reddit users anyway, so if you look at the Windows subreddits you'll see Windows gets heavily criticized, and the same goes for macOS. Users heavily criticized the Tahoe update. But when a problem occurs in Linux, whether it's a KDE bug or something else, it's always turned into a joke, treated as if it's normal. What's normal about it? You're using your computer and suddenly plasmashell crashes. You dismiss it with nonsense like, "Haha, it's just normal, it's the KDE we're used to. They'll fix it with an update in a day or two." >>109440302Another GPL-infected Linux cultist>>109440377>subscription-based os2 more weeks
>>109438243Who do you think owns and operates 4chan, anon? Lmao
>>109433084Had cachy last year but my nvme fried itself. Hot sidelined to my windows drive. Have the replacement drive. Cachy still good for gaming is something else the go to now?
>>109440399How does the license that determines how the software you use everyday can be used, modified, or distributed, not affect your use of the software that you use everyday?
Because it is a garbage system made exclusively for servers. The same thing applies to BSD.
>>109440399>"traffic laws don't affect how I drive my car because I always drive under the speed limit."
>>109440464You can look in desuarchive and see this cope over the last 11 years+Get something new already
>>109440399There are some shitty Linux things, but I'd never openly trash talk free volunteers, giving us a spyware free desktop and server OS. It's free, if you need something make a feature request, bug report or donation. Of course I will shit talk my MacBook, it was expensive, you are buying a full product, just like with Windows. You can only flame, those are closed source systems, there is only so much you can do. No one can fork it. The situation on Windows is even worse.
>>109440536>There are some shitty Linux thingsNot some, desktop Linux itself is joke.>spyware freePure buzzword. Linux cultists who constantly say "Windows is tracking you, Windows is spyware" are getting hacked by downloading random packages from the AUR. I specifically used Arch as an example because the most popular distributions are Arch-based. On the other hand, telemetry is essential for product development, and the data sent is anonymized. Without telemetry, Windows would be like Linux, with no difference from the KDE experience LOL.>The situation on Windows is even worse.LMAO even.
>>109440666>Not some, desktop Linux itself is joke.False, RedHat, Canonical and SUSE were always shipping good desktops for workstations and Valve is shipping their shit now.>Pure buzzwordNo, it's true. Windows collects user data, interests, keystrokes, connected IPs and more. Their service is an advertising platform, except Office365 and Azure.>getting hackedSounds like a (You) problem>AURNever used that>I specifically used ArchAgain, (You) problem.>telemetry is essential for product developmentlol, no. bug reports exists>data sent is anonymizedproof?
