Discussion and Development of Local Image, Video, and Music Models and SoftwarePrevious: >>109434212https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUISDWebUI: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#the-stable-diffusion-web-ui-lineageWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, & Upscalershttps://huggingface.co/modelshttps://huggingbay.xyzhttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.comhttps://openmodeldb.info>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipehttps://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scriptshttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner>Krea 2https://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Rawhttps://huggingface.co/krea/Krea-2-Turbo>Animahttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Animahttps://tagexplorer.github.io/https://animadex.net>Zhttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image>Qwenhttps://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image>Kleinhttps://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2>LTX-2.3https://huggingface.co/collections/Lightricks/ltx-23>Wanhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkCollage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
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>>109436434Thanks for baking. <3
Has anyone given animegen a try yet? https://huggingface.co/aidealab/AnimeGen-I2V
>>109436493the bitter lesson fucked them as usual, h3 f3 are better
>>109436508
Can't wait for Minimax to suck balls.
Can't wait to have my balls slobbered on by Minimax.
>>109436551based fudder forcing the llm scraping the internet to write a report to the company that people are not optimistic therefore they should cuck the model less or make it better before release
>>109436558Nah I want a completely uncensored model. Minimax won't be it, its going to be a bloated censored pile of utter shite that'll be DOA.
How do I make Krea2 do balls deep. Is this impossible without a lora? Feels like no matter what I prompt, it never goes balls deep. Fully inserted, barely visible, deep penetration, pelvis pressed against body. Nothing works
repeat after me:the models fud themselves
>>109436574Nobody cares. 3 hours until a censored bloated model releases kek
>>109436586Have you tried "going outside"? I heard it fixes your problem.
>>109436586try putting penis in negs, will need negpip if turbo
>>109436602but I want the penis to be slightly visible. even half-way inserted is good. currently it seems like it always only puts the tip in. >>109436600I go outside and jog 2 miles daily.
>>109436586if you mention penis in the prompt it will show a penis
>>109436612You seem oddly fixated to male genitalia.
>>109436612>I go outside and jog 2 miles daily.
>Look up character loras>Go on Civitai >Women>Nice>They're all either in their 20s or look about 12Why are Krea fags and ZIT fags and Klein fags allgeric to older women?
>>109436623tfw she is so ugly
>>109436614yes, I want some of it visible, just not the full penis.>>109436618>america>most expensive health insurance in the world>doesnt take care of their bodyi prefer not to drown in medical debt due to preventable diseases
im not updating comfynot using h3not using anime shit simple as
The vramlet sour grape is already showing at full strength.
>>109436633Every study shows most men prefer 12~18 range. This is not speculation, it is proven fact.
>>109436644which model are u using
>>109436636That's why you should go outside and see the sun at least once a day
>>109436633just promp "milf" bro
>>109436653i told you I jog daily. maybe this is an alien concept to you, but most normal people exercise.
>>109436649>12-18Okay pedo
>>109436651z image turbo bf16 on fridays tuesdays mondayskrea2 no finetones on saturdays wednesdays sundays thursdays
>>109436669pedo is liking girls below 12. call it whatever you want, men will always prefer young women.
I'm gonna animateeeeeeeeeeeee
>>109436700it wont do nsfw/lewd animations out the box so you'll be waiting months for loras
>>109436703Not if I start training them myself day 1 on my cluster of H100s, hehehe (I don't have one)
>>109436723it won't be able to be trained anyways since its guidance distilled
>>109436723But imagine if I did though. Reality is often disappointing, but it's the sheer magnitude of what could be that keeps me going.
>>109436703Yeah this thing will be DOA without loras even if it is good. Most people will make porn and unless there's a decent NSFW lora in the first two weeks, people will lose interest and look at the next bloated pile of shit, Flux 3.
>>109436737ostrisbros... its our time.
>>109436703yes it does lol, should not need much training at allhttps://litter.catbox.moe/l4lrz16qwl606br3.mp4https://litter.catbox.moe/zxu4rpoirle8jxz8.mp4https://litter.catbox.moe/qt81vtjrad3ln9yh.mp4https://litter.catbox.moe/bwpz1ea7szwiorzv.mp4
>>109436740if it's good and trains well, it will get loras without a doubt. it needs to be better than LTX/WAN22 for people to fully commit though.
>>109436703Reference videos.
>>109436751nudity is not porn. when i saw nsfw, i mean penetrative porn.
>>109436751>https://litter.catbox.moe/bwpz1ea7szwiorzv.mp4yyyyiiiiiikes
>>109436751>https://litter.catbox.moe/zxu4rpoirle8jxz8.mp4These are awful, The one in the changing room doesnt even have a vagina! >>109436753Its confirmed it doesn't train well. So. kek.
>>109436764Vulgar. You are a celebrity stalker.
>>109436777>Its confirmed it doesn't train wellhuh?
>>109436764me on the left
>>109436777>Its confirmed it doesn't train wellno it hasn't. Its only CFG distilled, not step distilled
>>109436789Which means DOA
>>109436781who
what was the reception on kroma?
>>109436751what the fuck, ts is local? insane quality
so, is this new video model anime specific or general i2v?
Tick tock. With every passing moment the model degrades further.
Not distilled for speed? DOADistilled for speed? Believe it or not also DOA.
>>109436783its the same retard sour graping vramlet as usual
>>109436801Says the Minimax shill.Looks like slop.
>>109436801prompt?
>in the victorian api era, localgrugs finally managed to discover fire
alright ladshows the seethe
>>109436820H3 seems to beat seedance is about half the gens I have seen side by side so far
>>109436828those were generated 3 days ago, before the degradation kicked in.
>>109436814positive:1girl, best girl, harry potter series, standingnegs:satan
>>109436826>A Klien fag trying to trigger anybodyLmao, Lol even
>>109436838that generated Cho Chang tho
>>109436848lemme guess, chinese model? put asian in the negs
>>109436850>put asian in the negswtf my gpu just exploded
>>109436867this nigga using a Lisuan LX 7G100
>>109436867rookie mistake, you need to put taiwanese in the neg.
>>109436879wtf my VRAM just shot through the bottom of my case
Minimax has gone quiet huh? Kek.DOA.
>>109436886>genes instead of gens
>>109436886loss of mass in the side view
asian, boobs and feet. that's what local has always been about...
>>109436434nice my half naked swastika tattood Netanyahu in the japanese subway smoking a cigar while holding diaper trump on a leash while george floyd looks in from the outside while the japanese salarymen watch their phones made it into the collage
>>109436897the collage should be this repeated 8 times
>>109436918Anti-art faggot.
when will Minimax be available to use with comfyui. i want to try it NOW
>>109436935it is art and you could just gen something betteryou won't
>>1094369372-3 hours.
why still no comfyui update for h3 release?
the blog about explorative modeling is a very interesting read https://alexiglad.github.io/blog/2026/explorative_modeling/
>>109436937Its gonna suck.
fucking "Go to file" search bar on huggingface doesn't search all fucking files in the repo fucking useless
wtf? where's the weights?
>>109436975
>>109436965>model not even released yet>vramlets already seething that they can't run itsucks to be you
>>109437014so how much VRAM will I need to run this?I'm a simple 24GB 4090 hobo with 64GB RAM and Nvme SSD.I'm cooked/cucked right?
>>109437032if you are white or asian you will be fine. if you are poop colored you finna have a bad time.
>>109437032i have those exact same specs. I'm sure we'll be okay. Now and forever. Congratulations! We literally bought the top. best pc a civilian can possess.
>>109437047wasian supremacy strikes again
>>109437059my beautiful special needs daughter
"Oh take us back. Ohhhh. Take us back..."
Is it just me or is Krea 2 training the most intense training I've experienced.
>>109437085
>>109437093if krea were to be trained on some midjourney dataset to fix its always centered and simple composition and shit expressions, and were either trained to or had nodes to make the colors more candid, it would be 100x better.
krea2 is the greatest blessing local has received this year. >>109437086the captioning to me is the most stressful part.
>>109437086For a fat loser who never saw the inside of a gym I'm sure it is
>>109437032if you can run LTX you can run it. If you can run wan2.2 you can run it and then some
Well but can Krea do this?! *the most hideous shiny turd slop you've seen in your life*
>>109437110everything you listed is a (you) problem
>>109437137everything i listed can be seen on most krea gens
>>109436953way too many smiley faces to be taken seriously
>>109437141>mostbecause most people are like you and don't know what they are doing. learn how to frame a shot, learn basic color theory, learn how to prompt expressions.
>>109437110>to fix its always centerednegpip "straight-on" and "centered">simple compositionloras help>and shit expressionsTextFusion Refusal-Reductionnegpip "expressionless"
>>109437154a model should by default when not prompted for it pick a resonably unique good composition without always just putting the subject dead center, colors should not always look like overcontrasted piece of shit meant for a photoshoot magazine cover but like colors look like in real life with your real human eyes. model problem.
>>109437167you're talking to localkeks, what do you expect? they've been using nothing but sterile boring slopmodels for 4 years now
>>109437155uhh this isn't softcore porn...
what's the tl;dr state of the art on lewd anime generation that can blend style elements? im favoring anima aesthetic 1.1, but am a bit tired of training loras for it; i perceive more meltyness from loras trained for the base model on other variants than i have for other models
>>109437167Oh look, its ZITChad.
>>109437176for you
>>109437167>a model should by default when not prompted for it pick a resonably unique good compositionlearn english. gen a batch, find a good shot, crop for composition, i2i. really not that complicated.
>>109437183nah he just seethes without actually giving any kind of explanations
>>109437183nta but I agree with him and would love to push ZITChad down a large flight of stairs
>>109437196They're both annoying faggots. I'm off to make Ellie and Clementine scissor
>>109437191what a silly workflow that takes 10x time and requires constant active work from the user, that can also then be used as an answer to every shortcoming of any model, "just do 80% of it manually bro".the point is a good model would do these by default.
>>109437188based
>>109437214you're describing an agentic system, not an image generator
>>109437155MJ?
https://filebin.net/cyuvlrvj4k1kh6ia WF for Minimax is here.
>>109437214hate to break it to you but the best gens you've seen weren't made randomly
>>109437233what are you talking about? there are already models with better colors (noob for anime, zit for realism) and most other models dont place the subject dead center by default or have trouble with expressionless face bias, it just needs to be all in 1 model.
>>109437247doesnt change anything ive said. the top of the top will most of the time be edited, but NEEDING to edit it to fix basic issues is a model problem.
has Comfy updated with H3 nodes? do i do a fresh install?
>>109437267ZIT couldn't do anything right lad.
Are there any good local models that can generate JRPG-style pixel art maps? For making game assets I'd like to be able to start with a screenshot of the current game to establish the style, sketch out a new fence/rock/whatever, have the model fill in the details, and finally cut out the new thing manually to make a sprite/tileset I can use. I tried looking for something like this maybe a year and a half ago, but none of the models at the time seemed to understand consistent top-down perspective, so asking for pixel art would just get me a normal picture but with chunky pixels.
>>109437155Dope fiend.
>>109437257seed hunting and a loop of interventions and edits is also the only way you get good gens out those models, wtf are you on about
>>109437275you seem to be concussed and didnt reply to the right comment.
>>109437234It's Midjourney
>>109437282clicking a button to queue 100 images and going through them after setting up the workflow is not an agentic system.
>>109437267if you want good composition, color, emotion, expression, you need to learn the fundamentals of art.
>>109437309you're just not getting the point at all
>>109437292>the point is a good model would do these by default.we dont have diffusion models that do this.
>>109437309not really, it would certainly help, especially in appreciating and knowing why you like a particular image exactly, but anyone can look at a unique/creative composition/pose/angle/action and know that its different than most others and cool.with colors i already spent my entire life looking at colors and know when i see an image if the objects in the image are the correct color (for realism). same with expressions.
>>109437323we do, just not all in 1 model, that is what i was complaining about.
>>109437332>the correct colorwhat is that?
>>109436669
>>109437347not wrong
>>109436459Put the fries in the bag
last hour final predictionscucked status:?
>>109437321there is no point, and digital art is filled with shitters like you. >how many layers did you use? >is that 7 subdivisions? >are they all quads? >16bit color? do you use the alpha channel?>what's the prompt?>is this int8? gguf?you learn how to use the technology, then you learn how to make art, then you use the technology to make art.
>>109437379It's all good man!
Why does the uncensored 9B model I downloaded from huggingface refuse to use racial slurs like I instructed it too?
>>109437383>like yountaalso you're still missing the point
>>109437404because you touch small children
delayed, why am I not surprised
>>109437436pfffftt give me a fucking break
>>109436623>>109436886looks good. how many images and how many steps for this lora? please share config if you can.
>>109437417what is the point?
>>109437436they delayed it because im about to go to sleep, sorry guys
>>109437457went right over your head
>>109437436every fucking time, i sleep
>>109437436the quality draining procedure took longer than expected. i'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing. it either shows the model is resilient to degradation, or they really want to cook this thing to death before releasing it to us
>>109437436AHAHAHA THEY DELAYED IT BECAUSE IT DIDNT QUANTUMLY DEGRADE ENOUGH YET
>>109437466isn't the point that you are just upset because your chinese hammer doesn't know how to build a house?
>>109437436They delayed it to make it better with https://explorative-modeling.github.io/ trust the plan!
>>109437486oof, yikes even
>>109437496i'm sure in a few years a model will come along that knows "the right colors" like you and then your kinos will pop off bigly.
remember the axioms of local>it's only local until it's good>it's only good until it's local>the model fuds itself>quality only takes a hit below the quant that i can fit
Minimax H4 will fix this
>>109437532Mein Fuhrer… Steiner…
genning ugly bitches aint gonna make them realistic anonsit's still 1girl slop
>>109437511find a Krea 2 gen that looks natural with people interacting in a natural non-posed mannerI'll wait
>>109437587If i gen your mom is she no longer realistic?
1girl slop is what's keeping this hobby alive
So apparently the h3h3 model is coming in a couple minutes. What can it do?
>>109437448140 Sydney images, 300 regularization images, 30 epochs
i have to wait for wan2gp to support it first. go on without me
Hello fellow ni/g/gers!I haven't genned for couple of years, what are the go-to models these days? Krea 2 for general txt2img? What about edit model? Flux klein?Thanks!
>>109437659it was delayed 6 hours.https://modelscope.cn/models/MiniMax/MiniMax-H3
>>109437278thought that was an abstract goatse at first lmoa
>>109437689krea2 for realism/editingklein9b for any edit that krea2 cant doxl/anima for animewan/ltx/h3 for video
>>109437689klein is still the best in terms of maintaining the face of the person you are editing, but yes krea is excellent for t2i
>>109437592>that doesn't count
>>109437707pitiful
>>109437696Oh is the model delivery truck stuck in traffic? Busy day at the shipping center?
>>109437712They probably want to do more clean up/testing. Would be nice to have some transparency for the hold up though.
https://huggingface.co/DeepBeepMeep/MiniMax-H3
>>109437710
>>109437731wan2gp chads... we WON
>>109437737>I'm going to make it tiny so if anon says anything I can just link to>>109437707 nyehehehehe
>>109437747IS THAT A FUCKING
>>109437747I came
>>109437758IT'S NOT IT'S NOT
>>109437746could you explain why/how that doesn't look natural?
>>109437765no, because I think it does look naturalnow explain why you made it tiny
>>109437776i already did>>109437191
>>109437778I can't tell if you're serious, does the size not bother you at all
>>109437790Okay ZITChad, Take your meds.In other news, Minimax is DOA. Delayed lmao. WTF.
>>109437790>gen a batch of images>find one you like and crop it for composition>i2i(image to image) with a latent upscaleri feel like this is pretty basic stuff everyone does
>>109436102>its actually 20B then. Not 33B. They did a silly by not removing the redundant params and precomuting the timestep values themselves. So LTX sizedexcuse me what? is that true?
>>109437825>i2i(image to image) with a latent>upscalerbuddy it is 411x327
>>109437827yes. Kijai already confirmed he did it for their comfy weights.https://litter.catbox.moe/0w1ko49mpt2k6xmf.mp4
>>109437825also we're talking Krea 2 here, composition will be 99% similar in a batch
>>109437831source? what final size is it exactly? does that alter the quality or it stays the same?
Where are the finetunes
>>109437837bandoco discord where he always posts, and yes its actually redundant, same model
>>109437436>be me>woke up at the right time before release>it got delayed for another 6 hoursOH COME ON
>>109437818nice
>>109437848Same. Why even have a timer if they can't even follow it.
link to timer?
>>109437854how the heck? this has to be saas!
>>109437817kino
>>109437845ok ok, now we're talking
>>109437878you know its going to be a banger when kijai vagueposts
>>109437854why no (You) for me?also...do I even have to say anything? you know, I know you know
can h3 make longer videos? i need my 40 second prompts to just werk
>>109437878>>109437884>33.1b -> 20bdamn, LTX is definitely dead then, Jesus, finally! does anyone have the source of that image though?
>>109437878Kijai is really doing all the heavy lifting for them.
realistic shinku is cursedit looks like she is whispering some fucked up shit in his ear kek
imagine trani put this much effort into his abandonware as kijai does for comfyui
>>109437893he's not called KJGod for nothing
>>109437901maybe kij should just help Ani instead then we won't have to break our duffusionui venvs because we wouldn't need one anymore
tempting
>>109437889>damn, LTX is definitely dead thenI'm glad that Minimax is not that big in the end but it's still a guidance distilled model, that means it's untrainable :(
>>109437872Truly there's no other way!>>109437885I don't know, but you can have a (You).
>>109437918god helps those who help themselves
so is it out now?
>>109437940workflow?
>>1094379351.5 era pornslop earnings?
>>109437947
>>109437942comfy only shoots himself in the foot
>>109437947they delayed it another 6 hours... now I want to test it out because it's smaller than LTX now, lets fucking goooohttps://modelscope.cn/models/MiniMax/MiniMax-H3
>>109437950nope, all from noobai loras
it's all right, someone will make a turbo version at 4 or 8 steps and we'll be golden, and the other good news is that Nvidia improved on DMD so the distillation process will have an even better quality to ithttps://research.nvidia.com/labs/genair/pdd/
would you guys recommend negpip in non-turbo models?
get ready for the api cucks spamming the thread when h3 releases
>>109437935wonder if using the new comfyui deployment to train loras would be viable paying in buzz.
>>109437988we're getting conflicting information.
>>109437995they've already been FUDDING
>>109438006I think it's because of the VAE compression thing, it's less compressed than LTX so going for higher resolution is gonna make things way smaller
>vramlets and browns can run it>still untrainable
>>109438006Not really, with that size and big TE it sounds about right. And he did say it would run slowly.
>>109438020I was one of the fudders because of the original size but now that I see it can be losslessly pruned to a 20b model, I'm back to the bandwagon
>>109438009he's hot
>>109437940catbox?
>>109438037he has no penis
>>109438027>big TEthey really should have gone for qwen 9b instead desu, they always overestimate the TE, look at anima it's a 0.6b te and it follows your prompts just fine
>>109438033>I was one of the fuddersok haha now line up against the wall
the model fuds itself
>>109438043those are some very sleeky hands and knuckles though
I don't mind it being slower than LTX if it doesn't need as much rerolling.hopefully KJgod makes a preview VAE for it. that shit made LTX so much better to use.
>>109438050my concerns were valid, you can't argue against that!
uh oh, zitjeet is gonna freak
>>109438073>can't stop thinking about zitgodholy obsession
>>109438073ouchie, you know it's over when the model gets relegated to a hard drive.
>>109438091even worse when a model is just shitcanned completely including its loras, that was ltx 2.3 for me when i found out about h3.
>>109437960it's gonna be fun, this is T2V. No refs.https://litter.catbox.moe/pnm2ylk80mprfrix.mp4
>>109438072the kingdom has no place for the weak minded
>>109438102that's how kings fell btw, because he gets surrounded by yes men and ends up out of touch with the regular people
>>109438091for me, i just save the lora previews/filenames so that i remember some of the ideas later on
>no workflowI wonder why lmaoevery time
>>109438044Exactly, a 32b TE is overkill, they could have at least a MoE variant.
>>109438073The only reason ZiT shills still exist is because they can't run Krea2
>>109438117the TE is the most important part of any modelit should be Kimi K3
>>109438111i'm not like the other kings doe
>>109438087Absolutely OBSESSED
>>109438129>it should be Kimi K3keek
I hate Chinese culture.
>we decided to keep it api only
>>109437889>20bkek, they killed Flux 3 dev, I don't see any universe where they could release something better than Minimax at that size
>>109438159neither is out yet
>>109438116got your workflow right here>vraaaaaaaapthats a pussy brap, in case you were wondering.
>>109438162we know what's Minimax is capable of, and it's definitely competitive against Flux 3 pro, so there's a good chance that it'll destroy Flux 3 dev
>>109437747bro you can't just in a family thread
https://nvlabs.github.io/Sana/Sol-Attn/>training free>Another x2 speednice!
>>109438168you can't show the workflow, because you know, and because you know I know
>>109438190no one uses dense attention tho, it is not comparing to what 99% of people use
>>109438197sage attention gives you a 30% speed increase, that one gives you a 100% speed increase
>>109438193people don't like giving workflows to aryan brahmin
>>109438129>he loves big modelsAre you trying to compensate for something there?
>>109438211and I cannot lie
>>109438228>>109438228>>109438228
>>109437889>exactly 31GB at Q45090 bros how we feeling about this curious coincidence?
>>109438190Meh
>>109438275Just buy a second one
>>109438286Why? It's literally a perfect fit. The pruned version is actually like 26 GB in total (dit+te+vae).
