Love these chinky ass laptops so much it's unreal

>>109440200
Yeah fr I shoved one up my ass

Man I can't wait for my ordered thinkpads to arrive tomorrow. It feels like christmas.

>>109441061
Merry Thinkpad

>>109440200
>chinky
Please kill yourself.

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Me waiting for my sub $100 T14 Gen 5 with 16:10 that I load up with 64GB

>>109441775
you're probably going to have to wait a few years for that mate

>>109441864
Worth it, my 32GB DDR4 still doing the job, will check eBay in 2034 for depreciated T14G5

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>>109441775
You should get gen 2 rather than waiting, it's the last t14 with the 1.8mm keyboard, x1c6 is a better choice thought if you don't need more than 8th gen intel

So I just ordered three thinkpad g14 gen 1 because a store dumped the prices and almost gave them away for free.
Any good ideas what I can do with them? I guess gifts for family and stuff like that. I'm gonna pretend like I'm a 1337 hacker/programmer.

>>109442270
What store, I'm looking for one.

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My trusty 13 year old T540p is dying :(
FML.
Just as I put a gorillion new stickers on it.
FML*FML.

I habe 3 options:
>Put money into it to keep it going a little longer
Don't really want to do that.
>Getting a W541
I've got an offer for one in phenomenal shape for 170 yurobucks, I'd upgrade and mod that to the max.
>Get something else entirely (15/16" + Numpad, max 500€)
I'm not sure what so I came here to ask you guys.

3 options, what do? I've got like two semesters left in my bachelors and I'm going to enroll in a masters right after without any delays.
Also: Where do I get proper /g/ toaster stickers? Redbubble sells literal feces.

>>109442315
it's norway, proshop, so I sorta don't think it's gonna help you an awful lot

>>109442332
These?
https://www.proshop.de/Laptops/Lenovo-Refurbished-ThinkPad-T14s-G1-14-Core-i5-16GB-512GB-B-Grade/3403828

>>109442465
these
https://www.proshop.no/Baerbar-PC/Lenovo-Refurbished-ThinkPad-T14-G1-14-Core-i5-16GB-256GB-BARGA1N-Grade/3373165
doesn't look like they have the same offer in your country

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>>109439424
Am I retarded for buying this? I was given a budget of $2000. This seems really expensive for what it is, but I heard the screen was really good on these.

use case
>staring at text all day (excel, shitty web portal stuff, python)

wants
>the brightest IPS panel I can find
>clear text
>decent keyboard with a number pad
>decent battery life

things I don't really give a shit about enough to pay extra
>RAM

these are the specs I put in. I'm currently at

Processor: Intel® Core™ Ultra 5 325 Processor (LPE-cores up to 3.40 GHz P-cores up to 4.50 GHz)

Memory: 16 GB LPDDR5X-8533MT/s (CAMM2)

Solid State Drive: 512 GB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 TLC Opal selected upgrade

Display: 16" WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS, Anti-Glare, Touch, 100%sRGB, 500 nits, 60Hz, Low Power selected upgrade

Graphics Card: Integrated Graphics

Camera: 5MP RGB+IR with Microphone and Privacy Shutter, Computer Vision,

Fingerprint Reader: Fingerprint Reader selected upgrade

Wireless: Intel® Wi-Fi 7 BE211 2x2 BE & Bluetooth® 5.4

Keyboard: Backlit, Black with Number Pad - English (US)selected upgrade

Battery: 3 Cell Rechargeable Li-ion 75Whselected upgrade

Power Cord: 100W USB-C Dual Port Wall Mount GaN 90% PCC 2pin AC Adapter - US selected upgrade

Warranty: 1 Year Courier or Carry-in

>also

who the fuck needs to bend their laptop like this?

>>109443533
>Display: 16" WUXGA (1920 x 1200), IPS,
That's a beast laptop, Anon, it's got more room if you need more memory, these are retarded fast laptops, you can't go wrong with a T15 or whatever that is.

>who the fuck needs to bend their laptop like this?
You'd be surprised, in an industrial environment like the international space station, or a workshop, laptops may need to be mounted in specific ways to do a job, having the 180 degree hinge is required.

Whats the best laptop to buy currently for $1500 - $2000 AUD.
Need it for full time uni and some basic AI stuff.

>>109443837
>basic AI stuff
you'd be better off having a desktop with a dedicated graphics card for that
besides the low end graphics cards like rtx 3050, 4050, and rx6500m, you get diminishing returns on more expensive graphics cards in laptops, and they get really hot and noisy. they're just not worth it.
compared to a desktop where you get the most bang for your bucks, and you have significantly better upgrade options. you don't really want to do ai on a laptop
my suggestion would be to get a cheap laptop like a thinkpad T14 gen 2 or 3 for $200-300, and spend the rest of the money on a desktop instead you'll get far more bang for your bucks that way
sadly graphics cards are getting shit expensive, and amd started increasing prices just recently. the rx9060 16 gb would've been great but it's probably more expensive now. you want to have at least a 16 gb vram graphics card for ai

>>109443957
Yeah. thank you. I've got a very powerful desktop with a 4090 so I was just looking at something decent

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>>109443533
>who the fuck needs to bend their laptop like this?
Niche use cases, plus extra range of travel is always nice. About a decade ago I would setup my X230 like that whenever I came home from uni and plug in a USB keyboard; there was a noticeable drop in temps thanks to unimpeded air flow, the screen was now more even with my eye level, and it was a more efficient use of desk space since I could move the keyboard around for papers/textbooks. It's not the most useful feature but it's a nice bonus that doesn't sacrifice anything.

>>109444640
I wouldn't even consider it niche for the use thinkpads get, especially in the days where TN panels were the only thing on laptops and were even worse than the ones now, the thing was unviewable if you're not looking directly at it, which means if you're thinkpad is on a table with you standing there doing something while needing information on a laptop, you need to open that screen to a pretty extreme angle, nowadays with IPS that's not as much of a problem but it's still nice to open your laptop to an angle where you can see even without having to sit down, or worse, hold the laptop while working.

Good morning everyone,
I posted in the last thread that I was looking for something to replace the Macbook air from 2015 that I carry in my bag. I got recommended a 6th gen X1 Carbon m. Unfortunately since it’s 14 inches it won’t fit in my bag. My computer is about 11 inches and fits snugly in my bag, so i was hoping to get something in that size? I don’t mind older computers since netbooks have fallen out of fashion. But anything that could run at least slightly better than my current machine and was a similar size would be nice. Any insight or help would be very much appreciated. Thank you

>>109446158
The smallest thing I believe Lenovo makes is the 12.5 inch X series, so we're talking the X280 which would have similar processors to a Carbon Gen 6 but be a little smaller, but I don't think anything comes close to the 11 inch Macbook Air, it got to the point where Apple even discontinued the 11 inch Air after your 2015 model and sold the 13 for a bit before making that a retina and soldering the ssd like a bunch of dicks, but a thinkpad X280 is what we would recommend if you're looking for smol laptop

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>>109446158
Z13, X1 nano, X13 gen4 and newer.
Everything else will be bigger and heavier.
Mine works like a charm but the lack of an SD card slot is annoying to deal with.

>>109443533
You shouldn't buy business laptops new, they are priced at a point that is suitable for large business discounts

>>109447062
kinda explains why they're so cheap second hand, the price is based on what businesses paid for them, not consoomers

my thinkpads finally arrived, yahoo!
I'm surprised how good condition they were considering they are second hand
I guess I were lucky

What is the last non-botnet version of libreboot for the x200?

>>109449399
>non-botnet
Explain? I thought libreboot removed every blob as soon as there's free code to replace it?

>>109448892
>I'm surprised how good condition they were
Post pics! Make us jealous!

>>109443533
>who the fuck needs to bend their laptop like this?
I use it fully open horizontally on a table to draw on the touchscreen and vertically when sitting or lying with my knees up

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>>109446514
>>109446216
Thank you both kindly for the suggestions but I think even these are too big. All this is making me miss my old X100e. I had one and it got me through college on a single core in 2015.
I think I might just get a lighter weight distro than Xubuntu (even though my main reason for running it is because of how cute the Logo is in fetch. I really love that cute mouse.)
I’m also even contemplating getting an x120e since it’d be dual core but at that point I should just stick to my air.

Thank you all for your help, I genuinely appreciate your time and knowledge. I hope all of you have a wonderful day.

>>109450289
You too Anon, it really is tragic how ultra small laptops and netbooks just kinda went away, I remember back in the day my 8.9 inch aspire one was amazing for taking a desktop OS like Ubuntu 8.10, XP or 7 beta at the time, one could only imagine how useful a sub 11 inch notebook could be with modern technology and storage.

>>109450352
Also that's based if you're considering just continuing with Linux on a MacBook Air, I had a 2017 Air (2015 hardware) with Mint XFCE and it was actually really good despite the Mac-ness of it.

>>109450352
>>109450374
I whole heartedly agree on how sad it is that this size ceased to exist. It was my go to for portable computing. I always preferred to carry a small notebook in my bag than to carry a backpack with a full laptop. One would imagine with how powerful small cpu’s are and how fast storage is it would be appealing to the average consumer. Although I lament to think the niche netbooks server has been filled by modern smartphones. Tragic indeed.

Also, thank you for the kind compliment. I prefer to make my technology go as far as they go, even breathing new life into old machines.

(PS, the captcha had a symbol that looked like the Arch logo.)

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>>109450435
>I prefer to make my technology go as far as they go, even breathing new life into old machines
Honestly Anon, if the Air is doing the job, keep using Linux on it as long as possible until it can't handle what you're doing, it's a super thin little computer that looks nice, I do miss that even having sold it for a slightly thicker Thinkpad 14 inch that had ethernet and more ports, but for basic use a MacBook Air is really good.

>>109450374
I've got Mint Cinnamon on my MBA 2017. I put in a 512 GB ssd and haven't felt the need to go back to MacOS. The hardware is solid and it's great for everyday basics. Wouldn't mind a less obsolete display though.

>>109450561
>Wouldn't mind a less obsolete display though
I know right? I thought 1440x900 on a 13.3 inch was the best shit ever because I had never owned a retina mac or anythng better than 1440x900 on a 14 inch, and then I got a 9yo T470 with the FHD 14 inch, which was a holy shit moment because it's such a big res in a small space, but not so much res that you can't see anything at 100% scaling, that's a sexy screen right there anything less really becomes obsolete, and even still guys like Louis Rossmann will consider 1080p in a 14 inch "poverty".

>>109450590
I had been using a 10.1" IPS Asus Transformer with Windows 10 previously and honestly this screen felt like a bit of a downgrade from that even though the resolution was higher. I've gotten used to it now but it was surprisingly bad at first, especially for 2017.

>>109450629
Yeah once you go from a high dpi screen to a lower one it's fucking brutal, I had been using my T470 for an hour or so to set it up, and then when I sit at my U2412M with 94ppi instead of 157ppi, it looks horrible because you get so spoiled.

>>109450692
Yeah eventually I'm kind of keeping an eye out for a deal on a Retina or possibly an M1 now that Asahi is working on it. Not in a big hurry though, this is serving me fine for now.

I need a replacement board for t480. i found this NOKOTION NM-B501 board with i7-8550U. will i regret buying it?

>>109450802
If I were you I would buy a for parts not working, broken as fuck but still booting T480 cheap on eBay instead and swap it into your T480

>>109450834
oh yeah, i could do that

>>109450880
based

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>>109442319
Any help lads?
What do you guys think of this T15 Gen1 instead: https://www.notebookgalerie.de/gebrauchte-notebooks-ultrabook-lenovo-thinkpad-t15-gen-1-32gb-ram-4.html

The CPU is barely 8% faster but it uses un one third of the power. Is the battery life ok on T15 Gen1?

I feel pretty lucky, I just picked up a x200 for under 50usd and as far as I can tell it works fine.
I immediately librebooted it and so far ordered a cheap affs panel for it.
Past that it's pretty cool, the battery works but it's at 20% capacity
The wifi doesn't work because it's non-free

Does anyone have a solution for either reversing or replacing the rubberised coating? Part of the lid is like melting

>>109451815
You can a new battery and AR9462 on eBay for cheap.

>>109451913
It takes the full length ones so I'll have to cross reference. On my x301 I used a mpcie to m.2 and a modern card but I don't want to fuck around with this one swapping antennas

I might try re-celling the battery, dunno

>>109452066
AR9380 is full length.

>>109448892
Non-zero chance someone has cum on it at least once.
>>109446216
>X280
Good luck finding a non-8GB model, especially one that isn't priced out the ass as an overarching consequence of AI niggers.
>>109451913
I see you like playing Russian roulette with the possibility of your balls getting blown up, except that each chamber is loaded.

>>109452700
I never had a problem. Good luck finding a new OEM battery for an 18 year old laptop.

My new (to me) T14s just came in the mail today. This thing is sleek and by far the highest build quality i've had in a laptop. the P14s I ordered with a higher spec CPU is coming friday so I can do some head to head comparisons. For now, until i decide which one to keep i'm gonna stick with winblows unfortunately. Who knows, i might just keep both. Money is just a number.

>>109453186
Those would have wasted cells too, retard. I'm not making an argument in favor of OEM batteries, I'm making an argument against using outdated shit for the sole sake of novelty.

>>109454678
I bet you're real fun at parties.

>>109451657
>that'd be 499 + tip.
This thing is already outdated. Just go to Kleinanzeigen, set the filters to 300-500€ and get a t16 gen 3 or gen 2, if you hate the notch.

>>109439424
is x250 good?

>>109455312
The only T16 Gen3 that's below 700€ has a locked BIOS but it's still under warranty.

I assume I would be retarded to buy that one. I have a CH341A with which I flashed my T540ps BIOS, but I guess doing shenanigans like that would void the warranty? Would Lenovo even unlock the BIOS under warranty if I bought it?

Has anyone done a supervisor password unlock on a T43? I'm struggling to locate the relevant component. I have a pair of these, one that is up and running in great shape, and another one with a password that would be neat to bring back up to functionality, because it has an ATI GPU. Supposedly shorting pins at the right time can help with getting past the SVP, but finding info on which component it is is tough, and there are TONS of SOIC-8 parts all over the planar.

>>109456478
Fine if you can fit what you do in two cores and 8 GB (or 16 if money isn't an issue, but at that point you may want a maxed out X270 instead). It's a comfy little machine with enough ports and space for lots of storage and battery.

>>109456478
>dual-core in 2026

>>109456979
a bit overkill, yes, but what you gonna do

>>109456721
Just wait 1-2 weeks, I've seen a 500€ good condition I-5 model this Sunday. Don't wait too long, if you see one obv. The offers you see floating 2-4 weeks and longer are simply overpriced.

>>109457000
lmao at the cope

elitebooks are the new thinkpads

>>109458550
>elitebooks are the new thinkpads
I somewhat prefer thinkpads over elitebooks, but I had elitebooks in a previous job and they were okay. Though it was docked like 90 percent of the time I guess.

>>109458550
no trackpoint and fn/ctrl keys are wrong
You will never be a thinkpad

I may be fomo'ing here but I really expect laptop prices to only get increasingly more expensive, almost prohibitively so and am wondering if I should buy a new machine now. I'm currently rocking a 5 year old Zbook and don't really necessarily need any more power at this point but I'm still wondering if I should buy something now. thots?

>>109459261
I sort of doubt refurbished business laptops are going to get immensely more expensive, they just want to get rid of them. But of course it wouldn't hurt buying one now, I think thinkpad t14 gen 2 or 3 or elitebook 840 gen 8 give you the most bang for your bucks right now. if you want a backup/spare, shouldn't be better than you zbook

>>109457385
Gotcha, Danke.

>>109459261
What sorta machine are we talking here?
My Z13 went up slightly, but most T14/P14s, T16/P16s, X13, yoga's are only slowly going down.

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>>109442319
I fixed it. I tinkered with it and accidentally fixed the Problem with my T540p ...

So do I go ADHD and wait for the next issue to arise and bite me in the ass or do I order a new (to me) Laptop when I find one for a good price?

>>109461494
You should get a Kaby lake laptop, it's so damn cheap, goes faster than a haswell, and holds 32GB DDR4

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>>109461519
>You should get a Kaby lake laptop,
Like something from the x70 gen? T570 or something?
Hope it won't fare like my last Kaby Lake. It was an Acer Aspire F15 something, it blew up in 2020 after a faulty Manjaro-Linux update (???) fucked something in the firmware which violently released the magic smoke from the chokes after an audible explosion, deep frying the poor 7700HQ inside; which is when I got my T540p as a replacement because it was sub 200€ and I was (still am) a poorfag student.
I must admit, it makes me chuckle now.
>it's so damn cheap
The ones I see are the more expensive than Coffee Lakes though. German eBay is literally called eGay in the German vernacular. A good deal, but confusing.
>goes faster than a haswell
I don't know chief, the 4810MQ is within 10% of any chip that was based on the skylake microarchitecture during the 14nm+++++++ meme era.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/2906vs2863vs2865vs2196
The first Intel CPU gen that handily beat intel on mobile was 12th gen.
>and holds 32GB DDR4
The W541 in question is already equipped with 32GB DDR3L

I feel like it's an unbeatable deal for 170€, and one of the reasons why I'm even considering a W541. That and the fact that I've already got the "infrastructure" to accommodate x40 gen ThinkPads like spare parts, batteries and docks. The only thing that seriously scares me is that there's no new original batteries being produced anymore and if it wasn't for 03X7530, I'd have made the jump to something newer already.

Question is, do I pull the trigger or nah?

>>109462053
Hell yeah Anon, I have the T470 it's it's a beautiful dual core laptop with NVME and holds 32GB.

>>109461519
>You should get a Kaby lake laptop
Maybe if you're on a double-digit budget...

>>109462137
It's just so modern for how low priced it is and the value is good for a sub $100 computer, anything $200+ is T14/P14 territory, skip over the T480 due to value.

>>109462101
Pulled the trigger.
>>109462152
Bottom of the barrel T570 are like 250 to 350 yurobux here, BtB T580 are 200 to 275 €.

>>109462297
Based

Can someone identify what's the problem with this laptop? When I boot this laptop, it will emit this weird clicking sound (more like "tuck" "tuck"). And then the sound dissappear after booting. And then after the start up is done and the login page appear after 30 to 50 second it dies. I don't know is this laptop use HDD or SSD.

>>109464979
Sounds like dying hdd

>>109466428
I hope you are right and that is the only problem it has. I saw this laptop in a shop. It's a display set and they selling it with 20% off. The seller actually want to return it back but the guy who supply the merchandise never arrive. If it just HDD I can try ask the seller to sell it to me with bigger discount and I will try swap it with new HDD or SSD.

>>109464672
>>109467710
They based the 25th anniversary retro chinkpad with 7-row memeboard off the T470 because it's a dual core nvme having beast, that's what

My ThinkPad brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like, "It's better than yours"
Damn right, it's better than yours
I can pacman, but I have to charge

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You don't need more.

>>109473145
>dual-core in 2026

>>109473230
/thread

>>109439424
I've resurrected three old thinkcentres for server duty at home (S30, M910t, M92p), and gutted another busted M81 to house my gaymen PC.

Feels good man. The whole fleet is Lenovoshit at home.

>>109473351
Based Thinkshit enjoyer

Only turbopoors still use Thinkpads. Men of means and culture have Frameworks laptops

>>109473609
The western pathological obsession of blaming being poor on poor people will never not baffle me.

>>109473609
I would never spend more than 1000 dollars on a laptop. That money goes to my desktop.

>>109474484
>desktop in 2026

>>109475061
>computers in 2026

>>109473609
Nobody asks, linus racemixing tips

>>109473609
>Only turbopoors still use Thinkpads. Men of means and culture have Frameworks laptops
two shekels have been added to your account

Ex-"collectors", how did you manage to stop hoarding?

Should I get the x230 or t420 what does /g/ recommend nowadays

>>109480571
T460/T470 at the fucking minimum because it's the same price as classic shit and destroys the performance and is leaps and bounds ahead at just being modern, do not waste your fucking money over a blue enter key, also don't buy a T440p and spend retarded amounts of money making it a quad core beast with 16GB of RAM because now you're in T14 Gen 2 territory when it comes to price and the T14 will smoke that thing.

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>>109480948
Why not spend the extra 100-400 on a nice machine like a T14 gen 2/3/4/5?
I mean thinkpads depreciate so little compared to other enterprise laptops, you can just sell your clapped out gen 2/3, add like 100-200 and buy another semi-new machine once every 2-3 years.

>>109481197
I do recommend the newest T14 you can buy in the budget due to how much laptop you get for the money, but what I cannot advise is people spend T470 money on a sandy bridge thinkpad or something, it's all about price to performance, a full complete T470 for $80-$90, worth it, a T420 meme machine for $120-$150, not worth it, a Based T480 with 59% more performance than a T470 for more than 200% more money, also not worth it, get a newer and faster T14.

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>>109480571
T14 gen 2 or X1C gen 6, both last ones of their series with the 1.8mm mogger keyboard.

T14 gen 2 has a way better 11th gen cpu, but the x1c6 while only 8th gen has way better lcd panel, glass trackpad, always backlit keyboard, lighter, nicer materials. In terms of optimal I'd pick between those two rn.

X1C10/T14Gen3 can be considered for their 16:10 panels, but you will have a moderately inferior 1.5mm keyboard.

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>>109480571
As for classic thinkpads, x61/t60 are moggers as both are core2duo (good enough for 720p youtube) and have the vastly superior 4:3 panels.

4:3 is objectively superior and allows for more screen real estate on a smaller chassis, also does not have the ugly fat bezels of post 4:3 classic thinkpads.

I would advise these over t420, as while 2520m is a substantial upgrade 16:9 subhuman class business tn is a horror

>>109481784
>16:9 subhuman class business tn is a horror
So true, it wasn't until you could commonly get a 14 incher with 1080P was it "okay", but 1366x768 and even 900P are crap, the new T14s are based as well with 1200p tallwide, I am loving the return of 16:10 even on asus ROG laptops

>>109481805
Main issue with those t14 are the base 3 panels have low colour gamut (like 70% srgb) and thick matte anti glare, oh god they're a million times better than thinkpad tn but yeah this fact is an advantage to x1c which always comes with glorious high gamut panels

Got an old laptop HP pavillon dv6 made in either 2009 or 2010.
It had Windows 7 on it and ran very slow.
I installed Lubuntu on it and it ran quicker. Boot to password was 1m24s and lauching the web browser the first time took 13s.
I had a sata 3 ssd laying around that I wasn't using so I went and replaced the HDD in the laptop with it. The laptop only supports sata 2 though so it's speed capped. I installed Lubuntu again on it and it now boots to password in 44s and the web browser launches in 4s. That's quite an upgrade. SSDs are a must to revive old laptops.

>>109481848
SSDs are probably the greatest speed increase to computers since Core 2, it's hilarious how much of our time in the 90s and 2000s was spent waiting on fucking hard drives.

the T14 i bought secondhand has a dying EC controller and the SSD is also exploding
RIP Snuggles 2026-2026

anyway, if you get a vPro make sure you disable the management crap to claw back a chunk of performance. the vPro is not compatible with Win 10. for fan speed use TVICPort + TPFanControl. the T14s are extremely hot by default. watch temps!

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>worn trackpad and no battery
>$136 free shipping
I normally shit on T480 for being crazy expensive for what it is but that's reasonable as fuck, now that's what I'm talking about when it comes to reasonable purchases, 60% more performance than a T470 but it's like 60% more money.

>>109481755
>moderately inferior 1.5mm keyboard
Used to be my opinion until the ultra-slim trackpoint on my two-year-old work laptop became unusably biased to the top and left. Hadn't seen anything like this in 14 years of using stinkpad keyboards before the 1.5mm change.

>>109481755
Go for AMD, seriously.
Even the latest keyboards are fine, the second you start scrutinizing them, you will not want to leave the last century once you experience a 90s thinkpad. Even something like a T60 is a noticeable downgrade.
>>109484762
I'd be more worried about the screen being glossy and whether it's 1080p or not. The touchpad being scuffed has net positive value for me because I just disable them at all times.

is 8250U a hot cpu? my iddle is at 44C. is it too hot? used to be 10 degrees cooler on the 7th gen

>>109439424
Which one should I get? I don't wanna upgrade anything other than the ssd. Price of the t480 is inflated as fuck because thats just what everybody gets, thinking about getting a t490

>>109489847
Looks normal

>>109490100
Consider a T495 instead, it keeps more modularity than T490, including the option to add a 2nd ssd, and has better graphics

>>109490100
Get a T470 and put a T25 keyboard in, that 7-row kb is pure joy

>>109490161
Based T25, I know Louis shat on it, but my T470 has been so lovely to use as the new portable that a classic keyboard would just be icing on the cake

>>109481784
At least the market is slowly shifting back towards 4:3 for laptops
3:2 is good, but we'll omly have to wait and see, or custom mod readily available 4:3 screens and 3D print new chassis

>>109490188
I unironically still use the 60 series up to this day, I have a major project about it, but until I finish my research on absolutely all components on the market that are compatible or can substitute subcomponents I won't release nuffin cuz I hate rolling releases of stuff

I'll post about it on thinkpad forums, you'll know when you'll see it, hopefully by the end of Q4 of this year (I don't have any R60 models of any kind at all and digging through forum posts sucks balls, too much fluff and most pics are deleted, but aparently the X60 still has NEWLY MANUFACTURED LVDS SCREENS, which is dope ngl)

>>109490128
Omg it's insane how much cheaper these other models are compared to the t480, with so much better specs. What exactly do you lose out on by getting this instead of the t480?

Also, are there any larger screened ones within a similar price range? I think that would be nice

>>109490161
But I want better specs. Shame we can't put that keyboard in the newer models, it looks comfy

>>109490401
For bigger screens, T5xx laptops have the bigger 15.6" 16:9 screens and carry a numpad

>>109490401
>What exactly do you lose out on
Extended batteries, some RAM expandability (max 48 instead of 64 GB), full size SD slot (it still has micro SD) and coreboot support
>larger screened ones
P1 gen 1-2 if you want it numpad-free

>>109490401
Almost forgot, if you're a brokie, get an L or E/R series

I need:
Smallest screen size
Socketed cpu
Neutered/disabled intel ME
What are my options? I can't find a list of which ones have socketed cpus. Also, how hard would it be to get a case for the laptop, preferably rubber? I drop my laptop all day.

>>109493188
T400/T420/T430/T440p

>>109493239
This, T440p was also kinda based because you can put a 1080P IPS screen in there with a quad i7 and 16GB of RAM with T450p trackpad because the stock one is shit, its' still an outdated as fuck laptop for the money you will have into it after you make the ultimate memepad T440P, but that is truly the best one. that was old school and socketed.

>>109493239
Thanks.
>>109493288
I really don't need anything powerful, I'm fine on a dual core Chromebook running i3, I've used one for a year straight in 2025. I guess I'm afraid about repairs, more parts = better in my head. I just want a laptop for which repair parts will be easy to come by, and I dont want random garbage included with it (like a proprietary BIOS, or a forced rape chip).

A lot of times on /g/ some zoomer on a 16 core gamer phone (who runs skyrim on the toilet) tells me I have a slow device, when in reality the most intensive things I do are web browsing, MPV video playback, and playing open source shooters like serious Sam or xonotic. I have dedicated machines for gaming that aren't allowed to connect to the regular internet. So I dont really know what "outdated as fuck laptop for the money" means. Will it last for a very long time? Easy to source parts for? Will it break instantly? I dont even open multiple tabs in my web browser, but I dunno how slow is too slow for nu /g/.

>>109493389
>So I dont really know what "outdated as fuck laptop for the money" means
It means that you're wasting money on things just because they're older, not because it makes it a better, laptop,something like a T480 will have the 1080p screen, have the trackpad buttons, have a quad core processor that beats haswell, faster wifi, faster everything, and you wouldn't even have to touch anything except RAM if you felt like upgrading, and T480 is kinda overpriced but that's still a better value than having potentially $300+ in a Haswell laptop that goes slower.

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thinkpadbros, is it true our laptops are less repairable than a mac?

Got any good vidyas that explain the process of what goes on during librebooting a thinkpad x220 in-depth for a newbie? Written guides are fine too.

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Needs some stickers, but I love my T420!

is P14 good [Y/n]

>>109494385
trash screen
that dock will fall apart in 2 weeks

>>109490188
>I know Louis shat on it
He's just shitting on the price, which is completely irrelevant assuming you're not buying it new.

>>109494742
True, also T470 exists and it's a based laptop.

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>>109494853
Speaking of T470s, I just scored this sweet ass one with the 1080p IPS touch screen and IR camera that I don't know what it does, I don't know if the guy working at the e-waste place knew what he had but this is about as good as it gets for a T470 with Intel graphics that isn't a 25th anniversary, and he only wanted $108, so the 32GB of RAM will go in here, and my sister will get a T470 with two 8GB sticks in dual channel to replace her shitty Mac book Air

>>109493188
T60, embrace the 4:3

>>109494961
>dual core in 2026
>e-waste place
Pottery

>>109494961
>IR camera that I don't know what it does
All it does on Loonix is get in the way when normal camera software wants to use the normal camera. On Windows it's there to let cops log themselves in by pointing it at your face instead of asking you for the password.

>>109497724
Ahh, well at least the ips screen is gonna be killer, I was happy with the 1080p 14 inch TN panel.

Old t420 is not holding it together anymore, what would be the best 200-400€ option to replace it, my requirements are simple:
-can run multiple browser tabs without grinding to a halt
-can watch movies in 1080p locally without lagging
-Expandable storage + ram
-(optionally) runs Half Life 2 and or TF2
everything else is whatever

If you want to have any shot at gaymen, get something with discrete graphics, or AMD graphics. T440p minimum.

>>109494061
get an x230 and use ivyra1n
>>109494385
T430s is better

>>109499061
T14 gen 2 Intel

>>109499895
NTA but why intel over ryzen?

>>109439424
Any Latitude 5400 users? How is it?

>>109500026
Your price range, that's it. If you can find a ryzen gen 2 in that range then it's the vastly superior choice.

>>109500223
or not your since you're a different Anon

>>109499880
Thanks, I'm aware of ivyra1n but I don't want to waste my x220 before I've fully got the range of modifying it to my heart's content. Info on this is sparse for some reason.

>>109499880
ivyra1n is inferior to hardware flashing

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>>109454086
great, now there are two of them.

Probably going to keep the P14s (left) and send back the T14s or give it to my gf but make her use arch because its my laptop at the end of the day :^)

>>109502616
You should give it to gf, those Lenovo notchbooks are sweet, I'm pissed my mom has one and I don't but she gotta make a living.

>>109502652
I will say I'm surprisingly torn - by all metrics the P14s is a more capable machine, with basically 50% more CPU cores, better GPU, better thermals and socketed ram. However, the build quality on the T14s is significantly better - there's basically no deck flex when typing at all, which is very satisfying.

Maybe i'm just a chud who deserves the unrepairable unupgradeable disposable consumer grade tech slop every company is trying to sell us...

While I have both laptops - is there anything I should test while I compare the two? they're both AMD gen 6 variants

is there a thinkpad with a 2k or 4k display for around $200?

>>109502823
If you're willing to throw down $300 there do exist P14 Gen 2 laptops with the optional 4K screen and an 11th gen intel chip

>>109499880
I prefer Ivy Snow.

i need a laptop. what do you guys recommend? I'm selling my air m4 for what i paid and i need something cheaper that still has 16gb ram.
I would prefer not soldered charge ports but it is what it is.

>>109504707
Get a T14 or P14 Gen 2 at the minimum if you care about the value and having a powerful machine, it's kinda hilarious you mention 16GB of RAM because normal non workstation-y chinkpads have been holding 32GB of RAM since 2016

>>109504741
Do you guys have any recommended sellers? USA. How much should i pay for them? I see them from low 200 to mid 300

>>109504877
Honestly Anon just buy from anyone who has a nicely written eBay ad with good pictures of the actual laptop, knows what they're selling when it comes to the specifications of it, etc, has it listed for what one of those is worth, and then if the rating is good you can just go ahead and purchase.

>>109504905
Also yes, 14 inch thinkpads from the Gen 2 era are $200 to $300

>>109504910
You can get gen 3 at the same price point now. At least in my area.

>>109439424
I have a Dell Latitude, I was wondering if there's an easy way to put a minimum limit on fan speed.
Basically it annoys me more that fan speed changes at low loads, I want it to be constant at low loads.

For information, I couldn't find an option in BIOS, there are only presets like "cool, quiet, performance", and I'm using Linux so Dell software is not available.

Do all thinkpads have shit battery life? I've got one at work that apparently costs like 5k USD new and its battery life is hot garbage. What's a thinkpad for someone that cares very little about performance (all work will be done via running bash commands, anything heavy will be done remotely via SSH) but cares heavily about battery life and having a laptop that won't break if you look at it wrong?

Opinions on ThinkCentres?
I'm getting paranoid about hardware prices and I thought about getting a couple of spare computers. I can get an M710 with an i5 6500, 8GB of RAM (to be upgraded later) and a 256GB SSD for 99 bucks.

>>109508171
We could have modern thinkpads with like, 72 hour batteries if the juden at the top didn't take processor efficiency as an opportunity to make the laptop evermore progressively thinner, with a smaller battery to match. Imagine if we had a T420 with modern internals and the rest of the space was all battery.

But no.

Marketing queers and women in focus groups want laptops measured with a micrometer so we're forced to suffer.

>>109509677
They're fine Anon, a business class computer from Dell of Lenovo second hand is a good value in general compared to buying used 14nm parts and throwing it together, but do look for an i7 8700 thinkcentre if you can because it's at least a 6 core CPU.

>>109509677
As long as corpos have unlimited budgets and mandatory upgrade cycles, you'll never have any problem getting functioning ewaste.

if you don't have an immediate use case, i'd hold off for a better deal - if you check recently sold on ebay, comparable machines with 16gb ram regularly go for $100 or less, or much better machines with newer architecture, more storage and more ram go for only slightly more if it's in budget.

I wouldn't really rush into buying some underpowered garbage right now just as a spare. i don't think the current market trends for new hardware is really going to affect prices on used trash, most of these companies just want their old shit gone and will more or less give it away.

>>109509909
>Imagine if we had a T420 with modern internals and the rest of the space was all battery
God that would be amazing, as glad as I am that stupid shit that DVD drives went away and laptops got thinner, but you wonder what kind of beast computer you could've had with more cooling space, or the insane battery you could get on a 15W U processor with a giant ass battery.

>>109508171
Just get something that does USBC charging, integrated graphics, the best lcd panel offered, and get a portable battery bank.

>>109509909
They do make some laptop skus that have 99 Wh batteries, and they'll never be able to go larger until air travel regulations change to allow batteries >100 Wh, unfortunately. Even thinslop laptops have batteries that are >50 Wh, so the utopia we all deserve of infinite battery life is not happening anytime soon, even if a based manufacturer wanted to.

>>109510016
This, having a high res panel is batter than any descrete shit card

>>109509924
>>109509931
Thanks for the input.
As for power I really don't need much more than that. I don't do anything hardware intensive on my computer and I play old games (my main computer is an i5 4690k + GTX 970 build). About the price, maybe it's cheaper in USA, this is an ebay listing from Spain, but I take you're right about office tier setups not going to spike in price anytime soon.

bumo

>>109510474
Thinkcentres are great. The hardware is solid. Thinkstations are even better. Just be aware of bios locks on wireless cards (just like on thinkpads) and not having much by way of options - you're not going to be setting manual ram timings or overclocking.

>>109513196
ThinkPads from xx80 and onward do not have whitelist for wireless cards.

>>109510029
T40-Tx30 and T550-T560 could hold well over 100 Wh, they just had to split the capacity in two batteries and make one of them easily removable

>>109509931
>As long as corpos have unlimited budgets and mandatory upgrade cycles, you'll never have any problem getting functioning ewaste.
No, more companies are beginning to destroy their hardware after the lease ends, supposedly for security reasons, but it's obviously so normal people can't buy cheap hardware anymore, and that's without AI chips in it yet

>>109514768
IME they're only destroying the SSDs, as long as they can be removed easily. The only full laptops I've seen mercilessly destroyed are ones with soldered storage or cases that need special tools to open.

>>109514768
>No, more companies are beginning to destroy their hardware after the lease ends
At the very least they're taking the ssd out, Which when you think about refurbishing and how thin the profit margin is, the cost of replacing a 256gb ssd or whatever came in an old nvme thinkpad is the difference between you making money on ebay or not, which means a lot of ThinkPads are dying a very early death via getting parted out compared to the days where they had spinning storage thay you could zero out and it was good. And there were just so many fucking laptops around.

I'm looking for a cheap laptop for college from lenovo/dell/hp but I have no clue what the fuck to buy here in bangladesh

Shit's absolutely abysmal considering I'm paying $290 ish to get 8/256 <80% battery health business laptops :(

>>109516672
>india 3
I doubt any big corporation there could afford 100+ Thinkpad for its employees.

>>109514603
Still under 100Wh, 24Wh + 72Wh = 96Wh.
Even older Thinkpad that puts second battery on the ultrabay still doesn't go over 100Wh.

>>109517183
>T400
126 Wh (94 Wh main + 32 Wh ultrabay)
>T430
188 Wh (94 Wh main + 94 Wh external)
>T560
116 Wh (44 Wh main + 72 Wh external)

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I have a T470s, you think I could get a version of macOS to work on it and daily drive it?

>>109518778
but why

>>109519010
This, the T470 is a based thinkpad when it comes to compatibility but I don't know how much further hackintoshing can go on Intel unless the OSx86 community hacks it to work on Intel.

>>109519010
To try whether I enjoy macOS

>>109519133
Honestly Anon, just go to the Apple store and Best Buy and play with the Macs there to see what you like, don't waste time messing around on your T470s trying to make an OS work that you may not even like.

>>109519133
I'll save you the trouble - macOS is dogshit unless you're a turbo-normie that doesn't understand computers.

>>109519413
Unfortunately true, it's pretty nice and easy to use but I re-installed Monteray on my air to sell it on Ebay and that thing was using 3.14GB of RAM at idling, and everything it did like software update took forever, so you pretty much need an Apple Silicon beast to run it, stick to Windows or Linux on Stinkpads, ideally Linux since the dude has a dual Kaby lake T470s.

>>109499880
I'm too attached to it now. I'm even planning on get it it's first sticker and committing to it long term.

>>109523286
Stick with it if it's working for you Anon, I'm still on dual core as well and it's fine.

>>109480560
seek Christ.

>>109523349
based and redpilled

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>>109523349
Christ said I should hoard more Thinkpad

>>109523460
https://www.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.6.19-21.KJV

>>109516672
the thinkpads are cheap because the industry is replacing them en masse every fourth-fifth year
so pretty much the gen 2 and 3
both older and newer than that are overpriced really

>>109509677
>Opinions on ThinkCentres?
I think the elitedesks look better. At least if you're thinking of using it as a media center.

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>check wayback because I'm curious how much a backlit keyboard 1080p T470 with one stick of 8GB cost
>literally $50 cheaper than the Air my sister got for college in 2017 with a $100 student discount at best buy
I'm extremely salty I didn't know about these damn chinkpad 15w ultrabooks because that would've done the job and not die for no reason, and it would've been cool to unbox a business laptop brand new.

>T490 choking on 8gb ram and Win11
>add 8gb on empty slot
>laptop doesn't recognize it at all

I don't have another laptop to test this ram slot on (others use ddr3). Is there a reason it might not be recognized?
Or could this odd stick actually be DDR3 and mislabeled? I only remember it was from a now defunct Inspiron from 2018 ish

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I'm tired guys
Either I go full desktop setup and get raped to death by the AI bubble
or
I just go full Thinkpad autism and get myself one preferably a gen 5/6 model

>>109480571
bang for bucks?
T470p, T14 G2, X395 Touchscreen (the cheapest somewhat decent model with guaranteed 72% NTSC panel)

DIY toys?
X230, T430, T440p, T480

i7 T470p would smoke T480 any day of the week easily

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The touchscreen IPS T470 has arrived, pretty much the most beautiful display I've ever seen that can be viewed at 100% scale.

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>>109532294
That is freaky

>>109532346
wtf non-brown hand on 4chan?

>>109532359
The hand test is kinda silly because im only 53% white

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>>109533043
>go to dual channel
>gain 9.13% performance
Based T470

Found a decent looking T14g2 with 16gb ram and 512gb, for like $340,

two questions: decent price for what it is?
Is it worth looking at gen2 t14s? I would like to upgrade some shit at some point, would this be alright for that or should I be looking more at a 480 type?

>>109533110
T14/P14 Gen2 and beyond are the only thinkpads worth considering for price to performance, the T480 is silly money for what it is and sub $100 gets you a dual core Kaby Thinkpad, so there's really no reason to mess around with old 14nm shit laptops unless you're a weirdo like me who is into $100 or less laptops that hold 32GB of RAM, otherwise get a Gen 2 Lenovo or as new as you can possibly afford because that's the most laptop for your money.

>>109533129
So at minimum a gen 2, newer if in budget?

>>109533142
Absolutely Anon, the newer the better, if you could afford one of those hot ass Gen5 14 inchers with the 1920x1200 screen and non soldered RAM slots, I salute you.

>>109532294
Having a touchscreen rapes your battery life. Also, I've read that it can *slightly* affect image quality due to the digitizer, though I'm unsure of how trivial/non-trivial it is.

The alternative is having a non-FHD display, but personally, I'd rather maximize battery life than focusing on viewing experience; especially since laptops aren't meant to be ones main system.

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>>109534069
>Having a touchscreen rapes your battery life
Its all good, the batteries in both my T470s are blown, these are basically like portable workstations that I can throw into a bag with a wireless mouse and charger and take whatever I need on the go, but the display does look good, you wouldn't even tell it was a touchscreen just looking at it, it looks as good as my regular FHD T470 and it doesn't wash out at funny angles.

>>109439424
>Supporting a communist product
nope

>>109534766
>drop or get water anywhere on capitalist laptop
>its dies
>drop CCCP laptop or dump a bottle of water in it
>it keeps working
https://youtu.be/j_tBsMCNEa0?si=tulA9I5RdlorY8Zu

>>109535010
CCP i mean, not a ruskie laptop lel

>>109534766
>lol buy ameriturd
no thanks bud, I’d rather not support warmongers and pedos

>>109533142
you can pretty much get gen 3 for the same price as gen 2 these days, just remember that the amd has soldered ram only, and the intel has e-cores which doesn’t work well with windows 10

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genuine retarded normie zoomed who wants to become tech literate here (most advanced thing i can do is torrent)
do i get x220, t480 or T440p, or if theyres no clear option what are the pros and cons. i WILL no longer be a drone!

>>109535457
All of these are fine to start with but they're also some of the easiest to overpay for. Make sure you know what you're getting for the money.

>X220
Small bean for light use when travelling. Biggest flaw: no displays above 1366x768.
>T440p
Most tinkerable being the only one with a replaceable CPU. The stock touchpad is shit, consider the replacement as part of the price unless you use the nipple exclusively.
>T480
Only one with modern niceties like NVMe and >16GB RAM, but it isn't as well-built as the others.

If you can't find these for a good price, X270/Yoga370, L440, and T470p/A485/T495 respectively are good alternatives.

>>109535457
doesn't really matter. get one you can get for cheap. pretty much any thinkpad made after 2010 is OK to start tinkering with linux. I would aim for 8G+ RAM - browsers are bloated mess and tend to leak memory.

t14 g2 is usually best bang for the buck currently in terms of performance.

>>109535457

>>109535457
T480 has been memed to death and prices have shot up.

I've personally found a half dead T440p for 60$, changed the battery, switched the CD caddy for an extra memory HDD, and added more ram.

Between the 3 choices the T440p is probably the most practical between the two, as the X220 and T480 are now way too expensive nowadays while the T440p has that famous modularity and repairability

You can technically switch the buttonless trackpad for the t450 which has the standard buttons with the help of several guides online, but i don't recommend to do it unless you're already comfortable playing with the cables and connections. I fucked the trackpad to motherboard cable and had to salvage another dead t440p for it

X220
Pros: badass larper form factor and old school keyboard
Cons: old as fuck. works on Win10 or Linux
T440p
Pros: Modularity, CD Caddy, 4 usb connections
Cons: Heaviest of the 3. Clunkpad. Limited Port variety

T480:
Pros: Newest and fastest, all slotted Ram and SSD
Cons: Meme tax. T470 or T490 better priced alternatives atp


>>109536556
I've come to get used to the clunkpad desu. I like getting to click anywhere in the touchpad and have a notable travel.
>L440
You're better off with a T440s if you can't afford/find the T440p. All the xx40 gens are incredibly easy to disarm

I have salvaged ddr4 2400 8gb sodimm modules and my relatives' Dell Latitude 5420 i5 1145g7 and Thinkpad E15 Gen 4 Ryzen 5 5000 series both support DDR4 3200 but only have 1 stick. Will it cause instability to mix with the DDR4 3200 module already installed?

>>109537677
It'll just downclock the existing stick to 2400. I've never had problems missing different brands or speeds of DDR4.

Sent from my stinkpad with Crucial 16GB 2400 and Kingston 32GB 2666 sticks, in use since 2024.

>>109441775
>>109442006
Another prospective buyer anon here. Which CPU would be ideal for the gen 2? Saw one model with a Ryzen PRO CPU in one store but it's sold out.

Is Linus an investor in Framewerks? If that's the case I won't buy it.

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>T495
>Ryzen 3300
>64GB RAM
>2TB SSD
>€727 (~$830)
Good deal?

>>109538203
Yes he is, he will mention it in almost any laptop related video.

>>109538191
The lower end Ryzens are about as good as the higher end Intels when it comes to plain CPU. Intel has the better iGPU on the other hand.

>>109538234
>T495
>64GB RAM
Does not compute, max is 48. Even if it was real, the price would be unashamed.

>>109538293
My bad, Ryzen 3500. With the above specs.

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>>109536556
>T480
>Only one with modern niceties like NVMe and >16GB RAM
Laughs in T470, it is a little slower but its probably the most based and newest ThinkPad for $100 or less at the moment

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Getting this bad boy by the end of the week. Wanted to get T440p, but couldn't find a good deal on it.

>>109439424
Why are used, 8-year old T480's so expensive now?

>>109532359
Having hairy arms = being brown. You didn't get the memo?

>>109539187
It's because Coffee Lake was a reaction to AMD's ryzen, and then suddenly ultrabooks were quad core now, it's kinda retarded because double the cores on a T480 doesn't even make it double the performance of a T470 due to them still being 14nm, base clocks took a shit, and you could only get about 59% more performance out of a 15w processor with 100% more cores, which is why I tell people to either get a T470 with a backlit keyboard (means it has 1080p screen) for $90-$90, or just get the newer 10nm T14 laptops that came after because of the value you get for the money at $250-$300 that people are wanting for a nice T480.

Also on social media people memed it as best thing ever, so average retards with no intention of opening the fucker were wanting this stupid thing, which actually makes it a worse value than a consumer laptop from ther store because at least with a new computer from the store you get a new battery and a laptop that just works and isn't 8 years old, We deal with old chinkpads in spite of themselves because they're supposed to be cheap, but the T480 just isn't that, it doesn't matter if you can have two matching SO-DIMMs if the entire thing is slower than a T14 Gen2 for the same money.

>>109539249
I don't really care for faster clock speeds. I like the fact that the T480 (iGPU) barely consumes any power. After swapping out the battery and installing an aftermarket 6-cell, I get 10 hours of battery life on Linux.

Also the T480 supports coreboot, with instructions on disabling the Intel ME permanently. This is only relevant if you're a computer schizo.

https://github.com/coreboot/deguard/tree/main/data/delta

>>109539299
>I like the fact that the T480 (iGPU) barely consumes any power
Lel it's the same HD620 on the chip as the T470 Anon, and the T470 has the lovely SO-DIMM slots, and the coreboot I think, that's what makes it so hilarious people are paying $250 to $300 for these things when they can go far cheaper for 14mm technology on the T470, or get something newer and faster and make their money work for them.

>>109534069
Yeah but most of the time the touchscreen panels are the better ones you can get. You can disable it in software if you don't like it, but I don't know if that really helps restore any battery life or not.

>>109539326
Well to be fair, you could also turn off the Intel ME on the T470 by setting the HAP bit, just that with the T480 you could gimp that part of the BIOS, which is what deguard does.

The T470 is a good choice. I think there's also an "enterprise" 2560x1440 option out there, but they are rarely sold on eBay and come with a additional price premium.

I think you guys should check out old chromeboxes as well. They are incredibly cheap ($20-$30) and are perfect as emulation systems and DIY smart TVs. You can coreboot these as well, thanks to a hero named MrChromebox. They are capable devices once stripped of the Google firmware.

>>109539356
It's true, 1080p non touch screen with the IPS panel is so rare to find on a T470 that I impulse bought it because it was cheap and I've never had an IPS screen on a laptop before, I'll probably never see one like this again on eBay because the thing looked like it was a Thinkpad 25 with the ir bullshit on the lid but I was in fact a T470 (T470 apprently had IPS panel supply issues when it was new which makes it rare), and the seller never even mentioned or priced the ad with touchscreen ips in mind, I only saw it in the Windows 10 system properties did it say touch support.

>>109539423
I actually do like the idea of chromeboxes being used as main PCs because they're so low power, I like NUC computers but they're so much money

>>109539423
> I think there's also an "enterprise" 2560x1440 option out there
>210 PPI
That sounds right in the awkward zone where text becomes too small to read without scaling, but the 1.2 to 1.3 scaling factor that would make it readable would make everything blurrier than a regular 1080p or 1200p panel.

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>>109539423
>>109539505
>tfw it does exist
That's absolutely insane though, when 1080p in a 14 inch screen at 100% scale is pushing it, and 125%-150% scaling already looks gorgeous, it's no wonder it's rare because it's a 14 inch laptop, you don't need 1440p, and god forbid something not scale at all, you're fucked trying to see it, it's annoying enough when I boot the T470 into Memtest and it's all tiny and shit, but at least it is readable.

>>109539177
I'm sorry anon, but elitebook > probook.
Probooks tend to have plastic parts that suck.

>>109539177
>Haswell (37 W, dual core)
>900p TN panel (<60% sRGB, <300nits, <500:1 contrast, >11 ΔE color deviation)
>wobbly hinges
>spinning rust
>no USB-C
>no ethernet
>2+ kg
>4h battery... when it was new. in 2014.
Are you a masochist? Is your budget 10 burgerydoos?

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>>109536766
friend of mine owns and recced t14 but decided just to look at the ones i mentioned to save myself the headache unless another nigga mentioned it as being unbeatable or sum
>>109537088
>>109536556
k, think ill get t440p for the max customisability, then try corebooting (or whatever its called) linux onto it. though 150-250-300 i see for 480s doesnt seem that bad

>>109539758
if you are willing to spend 200$+ then go for t14. t440p is a bit ancient.

>>109539915
Look at his posting style. He already outed himself as a retard. Just let him waste money and drop out of the hobby ASAP.

>>109539941
What's pretty bizzare is when actual smart people will be spending time money and effort into a T440p, I mean like guys who use arch and are smarter than me, going nuts with the 1080p IPS screen, the 4910MQ, the 16GB of RAM, so on and so on, it's like dude you could've bought an ovepriced T480 with 1080p screen in it and just went to 16GB or 32GB of RAM and it would be usable and good to go, or just get a T14 onward and again have a laptop that needs basically nothing.

>>109540013
Some people enjoy hunting down rare parts and upgrading old hardware for its own sake, and that's fine. It's just that those people make YouTube videos and convince innocent tweentysomethings on food bank budgets that they need to be doing the same to truly feel alive.

>>109539941
suck my dick and eat my ass faggot. sorry for asking for in this fucking general whats good for a newbie, and me choosing based on the FEW RESPONSES I GOT.

and before you get anal, these 3 were good for me, just dont dick ride me unless you actually have an alternative, cunt

>>109540097
>unless you actually have an alternative
On your presumed poverty budget: T495.
You're welcome. Now spread your anus.

>>109540062
>It's just that those people make YouTube videos and convince innocent tweentysomethings on food bank budgets that they need to be doing the same
That's exactly the problem, I'm all about fucking around with e-waste computers keeping em going, but if you're a young man trying to get the best laptop possible, T440p has been out the window for a while now, yeah you can upgrade the CPU and RAM, but the thing only goes up to 16GB of RAM, and the 4910MQ isn't as great as you think, You're getting 8.2% more performance than the slowest i5 T480 while using 310% more energy, so the socketed CPU can only get you so far, and upgrades themselves aren't free.

>>109539187
Because jews like murdering people and stealing land and the Scofield study bible was a big hit.

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>>109540104
nigger the t440p is the cheapest (£50-100), the 495 is basically the same as 480s

>>109539423
I DD a Lenovo C13
>Ryzen 3700c
>16gb ram
>MrChromebox firmware
>debian kde
Audio setup took a little fiddling with a kernel module. Also remapping keyboard keys (Chromebook keyboards are weird). But now its great.

>>109540139
>nigger the t440p is the cheapest (£50-100)
That doesn't make it good, Anon.

>>109540139
>£
Found your problem. Sadly, it's terminal.
>the 495 is basically the same as 480s
Except much faster, more widely available, typically in better condition, and for the same price.

What do you actually plan on doing on this mythical laptop you will never buy? That's the most important question you never even thought to ask because your zoomer tumor terminates thoughts before you can articulate them.

>>109540250
1. use it for writing school assignments since ive written a french history essay going between home desktop and school computers and it was nightmare
2. actually getting serious about learning tech and getting a laptop i myself purchased and becoming familiar with it on hardware and software level
3. writing more risky personal work that i wont risk on a windows 10 desktop as threat escalates (i wont elaborate)

i said same price, you brain melted ape.
>>109540215
true, but i was just talking about price, for someone trying to lord that. think i will just bite bullet on either x220, t480/95 now that i look deeper into the specifics and the posts anons made

>>109540298
>i said same price
You accidentally a word.
>1. use it for writing school assignments
Good luck.
>3. writing more risky personal work that i wont risk on a windows 10 desktop as threat escalates (i wont elaborate)
You are already monitored. Doubly so because you post here.

>>109540325
fair on the first point and appreciate your support on school but im leaving this slap fight and heading to bed so i may plot the best course 'morrow

>>109539423
personally i noticed that the xx70 was the last gen with socketed power pin, at least the xx80 and newer that i saw had usbc power soldered to the mobo, some of units i saw for sales had lot of broken usbs and or charging (usbc) ports
on my cunt im starting to see "cheap" t470, i wonder if i can somehow track down a 25 keyboard and make the jump someday

>>109541522
Honestly Anon, don't even bother swapping the 25th keyboard and top case into a T470, if you can get a T470 with the 1080P screen cheap enough, just get it, you don't even have to ram in 32GB of SO-DIMMS like me but they usually have one 8GB stick and you can cheaply add one more 8GB stick for dual channel (gains 10% CPU performance) and it's a super nice laptop that will be a good experience without having to do much to it, it's so unappreciated compared to a T480 which keeps the price low.

>>109541564
personally i wanted a xx20/xx30, either a small x or a big fat w but its getting really hard to find non-retarded prices of everything, its even worse now since hdd/ssd/ram being 98% the price of everything so picking x thing for cheap and then adding the rest is not a valid strategy anymore

>>109541625
>its getting really hard to find non-retarded prices of everything
Unfortunately true, that's why I just keep telling people to get T470s, it's just the most modern thing you can get for about $100 American all day long on eBay despite its nu-thinkpadness it would be one thing if a based T420/T430 was like $50-$70 compared to $85-$100 for a T470 1080p screen, but the T420s are like $120-$150 for a good condition one, so it's less performance for more money, and that 7-row keyboard isn't gonna help you put more than 16GB of slow ass 1333MHZ RAM in that bastard, nor will it help your everyday performance, meanwhile the T470 is often found on eBay with an 8GB stick of 2133 DDR4 in there, a 256GB NVME with 1.6 GB/s read, 1080p screen, backlit keyboard, holds up to 32GB has modern ports like lightning, ditches stupid legacy crap like VGA and DVD drive that was making thinkpads absurdly thick and heavy for no reason, on and on it's just the best $100 laptop there is at the moment, if T480 ever becomes $100 or less then you can get it, but while they're well over $200, either get a T470 or get the T14 that came after.

I've been needing to get a new laptop recently, and was looking at the ThinkPad X1 2-in-1 Gen 11, which ticks all the boxes for me (14-inches, 120 Hz screen, Arc B390 GPU, and 2-in-1 with stylus support). The only issue is that even though the product sheet lists it, I can't actually find any models from Lenovo with the X7 368H, even though it's supposed to be part of the lineup. Anybody know when (or if) it will actually be available? I'd be fine with another laptop if it meets the above requirements as well, but I can't seem to find any, which seems a bit surprising in 2026.

>>109541899
>X7 368H
She's got a pretty high tdp for an X1 ultrabook Anon, Intel's website is claiming 25w base tdp which is typically a no go for an ultrabook which would normally be 15w or less, and the turbo is claiming up to 80w, so that's a toasty chip for a thin computer.

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>>109539542
ProBooks and EliteBooks of that generation are built the same way. For example, picrel is EliteBook 840 G1 - besides the trackpoint, do you see any difference? Also EliteBook is actually worse, as it uses low powered U CPUs that aren't upgradeable.

>>109539661
>upgradeable to 4C/8T
>upgradeable to 1080p IPS panel
>source?
>source?
>2013 laptop, also usecase?
>...
Nah, I give up. You're a retarded nigger faggot trying to ragebait. Enjoy your (You).

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>>109542320
>upgradable to a 47w fucking piece of shit that gets smoked by 15w processors from 5 years ago in a computer that costs less than a haslel piece of shit after RAM and IPS upgrades
Don't waste your money on outdated junk, Anon.

Not interested in your ragebait, faggot. No (You) for you either. Cope.

>>109542476
I'm getting a fuckin (You) ya little shit

>>109538707
>$100 or less at the moment
AGH, can't find it anywhere with decent specs for that price.

>>109542421
Which thinkpads have those good ryzen pros again?

i got a x250 pretty cheap bros should i keep the windows installation or add loonix on it

>>109544595
Linux mint

>>109544595
choose one and only one

>>109544538
X13/T14(s)/L1x gen 2
Also the last gen with SD card slot (14" and up) and mechanical dock support, and the T14g2 is the last with 1.8mm key travel

>>109545070
>>109545085
If I install debian on it will I be okay driver compatibility wise? I'm asking because I don't want it fuarked up it's the only computer I have

>>109539915
honestly ones to buy are usually the ones the industry is getting rid off, which is pretty much the four.five year old t14 gen 2 and 3 right now
the gen 3 is probably a bit controversial because of intel 12th gen cpus and soldered ddr5 ram on amds, but they plentifuk and you can get them for about the same price as a gen 2 right now, at least in my area

>>109545145
Debian is a safe bet for any Intel 'pad released 3+ years ago. I've never had driver problems with these, except with some newer WWAN cards.

>>109542320
>ProBooks and EliteBooks of that generation are built the same way.

Except elitebook has metal base and probook plastic one. I doubt it can cool down 47W cpu properly, so you are limited to 37W 4C - if you can get it these days. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad notebook for tinkering if you like it, but I would go for something more modern with ryzen as other anon pointed out. Battery won't last long. Depends on usecase.

I still have maxxed out/docked 8470p in my study room that I use often and I'll keep using for years to come, but I wouldn't move it around the house or travel with it.

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Hey /tpg/, haven't changed laptop since 2013 but my machine is finally starting to kick the bucket. Since I haven't bought anything computer related since then needless to say that I'm kind of lost (understanding the difference between different processors and such is a headache for me). Somehow chatgpt recommended me to look for a "T14 Gen 3 AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 6650U with Radeon 660M iGPU" or "T14 Gen 2 AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 5650U with Radeon Graphics" so I thought I'd check with the thinkpad enthusiasts (I honestly don't want to think too much about this). I told it that it's mostly for basic browsing, multimedia, and some light gaming. That I was fine with second-hand or refurbished and that I'd like to avoid going above 1k euros and no apple products. Also asked for a decent monitor since I do a lot of drawing (no need for touch-screen though I'd rather use my pen tablet). For the record I've been using an ASUS X550CC for the past 13 years (see picrel for specs) and it's still running everything relatively smoothly on windows 10 ltsc. I can even run games that recommend a minimum of 8gigs of ram as long as it's the only thing running.The reason it's dying is because I've physically broken it. I plan to slap ltsc on the laptop I purchase or linux if I feel like trying.

>>109545597
>U class Ivy
Let her rest and get yourself a nice T14 Gen 2 Ryzen, Anon, that'll run Windows 10 and based Linux.

>>109545597
>Somehow chatgpt recommended me to look for a "T14 Gen 3 AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 6650U with Radeon 660M iGPU" or "T14 Gen 2 AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 5650U with Radeon Graphics"
and they say AI is a scam. I've got T14 Gen 2 AMD Ryzen 7 5850U and it's a beast compared to everything I ever had. Go for it anon.
>>109545169

>>109545565
>limited to 37W 4C
Theoretically yes, but the 47W chips undervolt well enough to fit within 37W from what I've seen, and even if you're unlucky, you can just reduce the power limits. The 450 G1 that I've installed 4700MQ in can sustain 2.5 GHz on all cores within 37 W, and 440 G1 is the same board and I think also the same fan.

>>109545631
>>109545941
Alright. Found the exact model from the 2nd recommendation, T14 Gen 2 AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 5650U with Radeon Graphics with 32gigs of ram and a 512gigs SSD for 400€, is it a good deal?

>>109547183
It's absolutely worth it Anon, will suit you very well for years.

>>109545565
>Except elitebook has metal base and probook plastic one.
Wasn't planning to go hiking with it, so it's ok. I treat my computers gently.
>I doubt it can cool down 47W cpu properly, so you are limited to 37W 4C - if you can get it these days
Officially HP does list 47W i7s as compatible, but I wasn't planning to go for them anyway - the difference isn't going to matter if it's going to thermal throttle. 37W i7s are very much available, it's not a problem to get one.
>Battery won't last long
Also not a problem, my usecase doesn't involve taking it out from the socket for long, and as for battery wear - replacement batteries are readily available.
>I would go for something more modern with ryzen as other anon pointed out
Honestly I would too, but it's not going to be my main daily driver and I'm kinda broke atm. Eventually I'll get something more modern to replace both main desktop and this ProBook.

>>109547183
>with 32gigs of ram and a 512gigs SSD for 400€
Buy it before it's gone. If you don't like it, you'll be able to resell it for more than that in 1-2 years.

>>109547411
>Buy it before it's gone
Seriously, do not wait and drag your ass when it comes to complete chinkpads with RAM and SSD in it for a good price, they will buy it form under you.

do i need 32gb ram on my t480 if it basically sits next to my desktop as a pseudo-TV running youtube videos daily

>>109548723
If you're just using it as a basic streaming computer, 16GB is more than enough, 32GB is for streaming with a bunch of tabs going, a Windows virtual machine going, etc.

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>your thinkpad isn't lehman bros
do you even business machine?