that's not Workbench 2.05
>>109443449People wax poetic about how stable and amazing Win2k was but I've had more bugchecks on it than vista.
>>109443449The startup theme was so damn beautiful, it was pretty much how the year 2000 sounded imo.
I wish I could..
>>109443841warmest brass ever
>>109443449I never left it, it might not be my production machine but it will always be my favorite geek machine
>>109443841https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnGHyUXpskkino. reminds me of going to some doctors clinic in the early 2000s
>>10944369920 years ago people were bitching nonstop about win2k crashes so it's even more bizarre to me that it has such a positive reputation nowand no I'm not mixing it up with ME but we all know how bad that was
>>109444703windows users are tsundere for windows>win2k is le shit. 98 is more reliable>ummm akshually 2k is good now>xp is le shit. it uses twice as ram as 2k and 60 times as much as 98 and is still a crashy pos>ummm akshually xp is le goated. vista is shit>vista is le bad. xp was le goated. those childish modern windows and their fancy uis for gays. ugh>umm akshually if u install sp2 and download more ram it's good>7 is not shat on because it's just vista sp2 with a large taskbar>8 sucks. gay tablet ui. 7 is le goat>10 is FUCKING SHIT. 8 + classic shell is peak>11 is jeetslop ai trash with react ui. windows 10 ltsc is as good as it gets
>>109445065yes, anon, windows gets more stable with time, hardware gets better so it handles bloat and poor optimization better, and enshittification is getting progressively worse. as bad as the current windows is, the next windows can still get worsethe real question is if the next windows will reach a point where it's still shit after you wait for the previous version to stop being viable. I'm still on w10 and I'm thinking this might be the time I finally move to linux. w11 is just too fucking broken, I think. but we'll see
>>109445277I'm jumping ship as soon as some really good support for Adobe on Linux is available. I need a lot of their shit for my job and doing it at home and I loathe having to use Windows for it.
>>109445065Never happened.Windows was for the most part a continual improvement until we reached the pinnacle of windows 2000, then it was down hill after that. XP/2K3 was still ok after some tweaking. But it went over the cliff starting with vista. I am currently running windows 7 and I hate it with every fiber of my being. I dream every day to return to real windows.
>>109446104What does vista+ do wrong that win2k does right? genuine question
>>109446123Well the big one is removing all hardware acceleration from the gui. But aside from that there is numerous changes that were bad, various damages to explorer, questionable architectural changes, brain damaged new apis.Like, whoever designed SetFileInformationByHandle needs to be sent straight to the gas chamber.
>>109444703I only remember 15 years ago that everyone complained about 9X being unstable and how XP was extra problems and how NT 4/5 were the systems to run, win2k in this case for also having less bloat
>>109443449The source code for 2K is out there. Someone should just release some updated service packs to it. Specially now with multiple coding-capable LLMs.
>>10944788515 years ago was 2011, nobody was using windows 2000 by then, let alone nt4
>>109443449Is Windows 2000 good if I can only run it inside a VM?What can I even do with it if I can't and won't run games on it?I dislike most games, actually, not just old ones. But I really hate the early 3D.
what are good ways to emulate win2k on linux? i've ran it in qemu but cirrus vga sucks - there is no acceleration. even fucking icy tower can't run properly (it has a black screen unless in window mode placed partially below taskbar). also sound is glitchy and slow
>>109450737Tried 86box? Far better than the old QEMU way.
>>109450768>86boxHope you enjoy running your shit at 166/200mhz maximum.
>>109450541windows xp starts much faster in qemu.>>109450737try vbemp driver. next upgrade would be compiling qemu-3dfx I guess.
>>109445065Err what? Wasnt 2000 NT literally MORE stable then 9x? Retarded millennial lol
>>109453940bloated pos. consooms 30MB of ram doing nothing while 98 only used a fraction. imagine having to buy 128MB of ram just to play Half Life and jazz jackrabbit
>>109453983So you use 98 for the next 2 or 3 years and then upgrade your system as it drops in price. What is the problem here? Operating systems were rapidly improving then with actual features and im sure much of that ram usage was beefed up security, etc.
>>109444703All I know is that 98SE vs 2000 Pro was night and day, 2000 was a rock by comparison and no worse than XP either
>>109443449>Come home white man.
the aesthetics were impeccable in the 95-2000 era. xp was too y2k and bubbly. this era was fantastic
>>109450196I was still using windows 2000 in 2011, though only just, software compatibility was getting pretty painful at that time. I began the process of moving to XP in 2012.
all white men that actually used windows 2000 have families and children and have no reason to return to driverless legacy shitzoomers that circlejerk over obsolete software do not have families and children and cope in hilarious ways
>>109443449Unironically best Windows from early 2000s for gaming and media.
>>109456749Win2000 was soo good I skipped ME, XP and Vista and finally moved on when Win7 came out. I'm doing the same with Windows 10 right now but future looks grim. Probably gonna move to linux somewhere in 2030s.
>>109455118This.I got my Windows 2000 MSCE at the start of my career.I am 5 years from retirement with a federal pension.House is paid off, one kid just graduated university and the other is in her second year.I use a mac now.I miss being young and I miss the optimism we had in those days.I dont really miss the outdated tech.
>>109456760> Probably gonna move to linux somewhere in 2030sLinux is in the process of being ruined. There is no escape.
What's better, 2000/XP or XFCE+Chicago95+wine/winemake/winegcc if I want an old-style development environment?
Supermium was abandoned by it and you have extend the kernel so much to get modern software running on it that you are practically just running Windows 7 with an older shell.
>>109458870>he needs a browserLet me guess, you need to run your AI overlords because otherwise you don't even know what the mouse is for.
>>1094588412000 or XP, no question about it.The way you worded it, you clearly aren't going to do anything productive with it. It's not an insult, just an observation.No matter how much you try to shoehorn anything Linux into something resembling old Windows, it will always have that uncanny feeling of something not belonging there. Like the token negro and token foid in a group photo.
>>109458724We can get that passion back if we get rid of the Fed.
>>109458841i have the same itch. emulation is the way to go. wine is ok an emulating games, but not so good in emulating let's say vs 6.0. looks wrong, doesn't work properly, fonts are messed up, icons are missing, etc.
>>109443449okay
>>109462072>emulationDoesn't that run literal orders of magnitude slower?Which is something I don't understand, because we can literally emulate Wii U's 1.2GHz CPU on shit hardware, and that's another platform entirely (PowerPC VS x86(-64)).But I couldn't run 86box at more than 200mhz on a 3.6GHz Ryzen.
>>109462680I dont miss being limited to 256 colors.
>>109462913>win2k>256 colorsnigga what
>>109454938>aestheticsWhat's with the aoomer + zoomer obsession with this term lolGoddamn tiktokgrambrained app-raised NPC's
>>109443449i have my little 2000 machine i made with scraps of oldest hardware i still had on hand. it wasn't painless, especially looking for compatible drivers but it worked in the end. bonus: wxwigets 3.2 still compatible (compiled windows 2008 for the lastest compatible crt)>>109464764why are you intimidated by basic english?
>>109443449Im not going back further then winxp
>>109465436then winxp what??? don't leave us hanging
>>109464670I was talking about the render of the browser in the pic.
>>109464814I kneel
>>109443449
>>109462680Fake, you're not using IE
>pls of adding toaster to botnet daHahaha, oh, Marina, you silly AIDS-monkey. I look forward to your drone video debut.
>>109455118And also had huge dicks and their parents aren't ashamed of them and they didn't get bullied on the shortbus like you.
>>109458822>Linux is in the process of being ruined. There is no escape.Wait. What? Tell me more.
>>109464814holy based
>>109468647Linux is rotting in various ways. Wayland, Rust. And of course the general process of enshjtification which all software goes through in this fallen era.
>>109467430the only correct answer
>>109443449I'd love to, but it has no support for modern hardware.