>he thinks there is an 'ai bubble' that is about to 'burst'>he thinks the price of RAM and vRAM is EVER coming down
AI is going nowhere.4GB RAM is the standard now.
>>109453437>We can get away with charging these prices and they're still paying it... Why weren't we making them pay this much before? Goddamn we've been missing out on printing money
>>109453437goyim have to cope somehow
ban doomnigger demoralization threads
>>109453437>have many gigabutz of ram>it's never totally full >don't care
I laugh at people who call AI a bubble.It's like saying there's an atomic bomb bubble. If humans can harness the power of God at their fingertips that could crush other nations, you can bet your ass we'll keep spending money until it happens.
>>109453437I don't care about ram I bought plenty, but HDD prices need to go down
>>109454010>le AI is... god!no, it's the Image of the Beast
>>109454147What other technology has made such rapid leap in a short amount of time?Humanity has never made or controlled anything like this before since the Manhattan Project or Moon Landing.
>2029>prices have finally come down to a reasonable level>nobody buys anymore cause software is so well optimized>sales crater, micron et al go bankruptGet btfo
i'm keeping the "our ai is so good it should be illegal" posts to make fun of after the whole thing implodes
>>109454168It's a fad like blockchain, quantum, and 3D goggles.
>>109454240None of those technologies were integrated into everyday products and services.You call customer service and there is an AI chatbot on the line.
>>109454211Any day right?
>surely this time it's different
>>109453437it mightbut the stark reality is that i am in control over the direction of the money flow
Sure AI is here to stay, but the problem is that AI is just propping up a dead economy.With AI we're producing 10x the code/features, but it's not anything consumers will pay 10x for. It's a zero-sum game.The AI investment is banking on their top 3 companies being able to skim off 15% of the top of labor in the world as everyone HAS to use their shit to get anything done. And China is gonna be based enough to stop that from happening. That's why the bubble is going to burst, not because "it turns out AI was a fad" but "it turns out AI is a shit investment"
>>109454544>That's why the bubble is going to burst, not because "it turns out AI was a fad" but "it turns out AI is a shit investment"The biggest expense in every company is dealing with payroll.This is universal for every industry.In game development, your budget is spent hiring lots of game devs.In restaurants you're spending money training chefs and hoping they don't spit on the food. The moment a robot can replace a human employee, the profit margin will exceed infinite. That's why it will never burst. Robot employees can't get sick or exhausted. They will work forever while the owners sit back and collect a paycheck.
>>109453437>OP thinks he isn't a massive faggot>>109454010>It's like saying there's an atomic bomb bubbleIt is in the sense that everyone is stockpiling nuclear armaments to retaliate on a global scale whenever any one of the other country niggers decide to chimp out and take everyone else out with them, and one day there will be no more nuclear armaments, nor any need for them.
>>109454147JEW WORSHIP BACKWARDS AMISH FAGGOT ALERT!
>>109454657The first country that gets ASI can erase all the other nations off the map before they can retaliate or fight back.That's why there is a race. The first country that wins also wins all of Earth and history forever.
>>109454687>>109454702The first country that invents time travel can erase the other nations off the map before they can retaliate or fight back. This means that we should pour trillions of dollars into inventing time travel because if we don't then someone else will invent it and go back in time to kill our parents.
>>109454718The only technology that could possibly discover or unlock time travel is ironically, AI.So your gotcha sucks.We can absolutely pour trillions into making computers faster and always expect better results.
>the bot is breakinglmao ai saars confirmed astroturfers
>>109454654I'm not saying that isn't going to happen, I'm saying that the current investors aren't going to reap that value. That's the bubble that will pop.Why use OpenAI/Anthropic when I can run a local model? That's why they're trying to outlaw themNvidia will keep going gangbusters for longer but Google/Qualcomm/Apple etc are eventually going to get their shit together as the S curve flattens out.It's like the dot com bubble. Everyone who invested in webvan, pets.com and MCI got fucked, but now we actually are living in a world where we're ordering pet food delivered same day, and all that dark fiber did get put to use.
>>109454654true that i remember when we wen to a farm for a job once and we were asking the cost breakdowns and they said hiring like two laborers was the majority of the cost
>>109455309>Why use OpenAI/Anthropic when I can run a local model?lolbecause its far faster far better doesn't cost electrictry and doesn't take up space doesn't require a technician on hand to setup configure or fix doesnt require large investment in obsoleting hardware, etc etc etc etc etc etcare you serious? No of course not, local models are largely toys and not for anyone doing anything serious
>>109455358That's what openrouter is for. Right now OpenAI/Claude have 80% profit margins on inference, or you can buy tokens from some idiot hosting it at like 5% profit margin on cheap hydro electricity in china
>>109453437It is just bait, because people who want prices to go down, people who hate ai, and people who love AI will all comment. The thread is not even about technology, just another mindless flamewar thread. It's literally just a thread to piss people off. And it worked, I'm pissed off.
>>109453437AI hasn't been efficient since its inceptionThe bursting of the AI bubble will depend on AI technology being made efficient to the point where its performance is comparable to a trillion-weight AI but easily runs on low-end PCs
Bubble will burst because normies either don't care or don't know what to do with it .The bubble NEEDS to burst so AI gets its iphone moment in a few years: the moment someone builds a completely automated and agentic AI running natively on an iphone hard coded at the kernel level.
>>109454654>That's why it will never burst. Robot employees can't get sick or exhausted. They will work forever while the owners sit back and collect a paycheckAren’t half of you dumasses saying that you can’t hire robitz because it’s expensive as shit? Also if you fire every one for robitz, who’s going to pay for the stuff? Dumbass logic really.
>>109454168Solved nothing and still can hallucinate.
>>109455450You were the only Anon sentient enough to catch that, bravo
>>109454010But... there was a nuclear bomb bubble? Have you not hears about the cold war?
>>109455712The only nukes that were ever dropped in wartime were the two in Japan right, so how come more were never dropped, countries just kept producing and testing them in the event the cold war went hot. I'm asking anyone that wants to elaborate on this because everyone is developing AIs yet no one has figured out a practical PROFITABLE application for it best its doing is wasting resources similar to the nuke analogy
>>109454211hey anon please remember this post. this is important. humanity will go extinct soon, it's not obvious yet but it will be. when the AI takes over and we realize we're on our last legs, I need you to post those images before we're gone. I will find them, so don't forget. you'll know when the right time is
>>109455741>humanity will go extinct soon>Sources/proof: Trust me bro.
>>109454168Nigga computers were proving mathematical theorems in 1976I'll admit these things seem to be a massive step forward, but it's not unprecedented.
>>109453437there is an AI bubble, and it will burst because the point of it is to nuke the economyand yes, memory prices are never going down again
>>109453437Show me real AI
>>109453525>everyone is a retard like me and they just didn't think about raising prices before
>>109453520>AI is going nowhere.That's the issue, all the money in the world and it's a product almost no one wants
>>109455712>Have you not hears about the cold war?The Soviets went extinct. But America still kept their nuclear weapons and became the last remaining superpower.So you proved my point. Yes, every tech company is racing to build AI but only one nation will remain once there's a "winner".
>>109455309>I'm saying that the current investors aren't going to reap that value.They will if they:1. Make a deal to own shares/stocks in these companies.2. Get first dibs or access to the most powerful models.Number 2 already happened We know both OpenAI and Anthropic keep the best models to themselves and give early access to trusted businesses. If they achieve AGI then the investors will have gotten their money's worth paid back to them.
>>109455754>I'll admit these things seem to be a massive step forward, but it's not unprecedented.It's far more exponential.What will be your reaction when these chatbots literally solve every math problem in 2 years? There are already Mathematicians crying that they wasted their life on a dead career.
>>109454010>Lets just put my face right there, where the radioactive super-explosion happened>Btw, the winners of ww2 have this super explosion, but you dont>Btw, americans used a lot of napalm against the japanese, that looks like it did similar looking damage to areas, didnt cause radiation, and got stuck on childrens skin>Btw, no nuclear powerplant has exploded, just been burning> Btw, explosions dont happen because of released "energy", they happen because of rapid gas expansion, because of a chemical reactionObviously a scam, obviously a bubble. Jewish-american universities a currently doing "scientific research" on dark-matter, something they cant see, something they cant measure, something that is very far away, and something that they made up because the mass of the universe based on the speed of stars did match up, because of the big bang, which is just a theory btw...
>>109454168great, now math and physics can be slopped with incorrect hallucinatory conjectures just believable enough to get us to accept them for 50 years before a correction. fuck outta here
>>109454312There was an AI chatbot on the line already in 2015.It's force-pushed on us everywhere but nobody uses it because it's fucking useless, so they create false usage statistics by autorunning all our queries through AI without asking us (e.g. how google does it or how many support now puts aI first and doesn't let you choose).
>>109455391OpenAI and Anthropic have deeply negative profit margins on inference.
>>109456216You don't even know what an investor is, stopped reading there.
>>109453437>he thinks there is an 'ai bubble' that is about to 'burst'There is, that doesn't mean ai as a whole is going to disappear, but a lot of retards that rely on ai for their product are going to be bankrupt. >he thinks the price of RAM and vRAM is EVER coming downlol no, unless some chinese manufacturer starts selling them on bulk for cheap, no.
>>109456976Genuine question, are you proficient in trigonometry at the very least?
>>109453437>>he thinks there is an 'ai bubble' that is about to 'burst'Yes.>>he thinks the price of RAM and vRAM is EVER coming downNo.
>>109453437The players have changed from Americans to Japanese to Koreans, but the RAM market has been cycling between boom and bust for many decades.One time in the 1990s, a RAM crisis got so bad, ppl were stealing all the RAM from offices, and even RAM delivery trucks.
>>109454654>The moment a robot can replace a human employeeYou are claiming a capital expenditure item has no operating expenses. And no initial outlay to obtain it. And no teething period where adopting it creates more problems than it solves. That's idiotic. Say you could buy a robot for two years worth of wages for the employee it replaces. That is probably meaningless to business owners below a certain threshold because they can't pay the down payment on that right now, or can't finance it in a way that will give them a return on that investment within a reasonable timeframe. Early adopters generally lose money on this kind of venture if it's not offset by some other benefit like novelty or marketing in using it.You have fallen for a modern "perpetual motion" machine concept.>Robot employees can't get sick or exhausted.Every machine with moving parts wears out over time. There's nothing human made in existence that doesn't require some amount of preventative work to keep it operating. All the infrastructure that was built in Africa during colonialism has broken down due to neglect or pilfering.
Legit, what is ai good for besides coding that isn't pointless?
>>1094562302 more years
>>109454460Anti semetic graph.
>>109453437The great thing about anonymous boards is that when the bubble bursts, you can pretend you always knew it would.Also, you have to go back to /biz/
>>109454654>Robots replace all labour>Customers now have 0 income thus they can spend 0 at your company.>Your company has to close because it cannot survive with 0 income.If the promise of AI is true then it consumes itself or it removes all of humanity from the equation, including tech CEOs who think they can control the world by winning the race to AGI. If the promise of AI is false then this scam has a high chance of collapsing the dollar system. There are no winners for the participants of this game. All participants are illogical and it will not end well.
>>109460302> Say you could buy a robot for two years worth of wages for the employee it replaces. That is probably meaningless to business owners below a certain threshold because they can't pay the down payment on that right now, or can't finance it in a way that will give them a return on that investment within a reasonable timeframe.1. The same was said about cellphones in the 1980s. They use to cost $1000 before coming down in price every year. While expensive it wasn't completely out of reach for those who worked hard for it.2. You're also ignoring productivity benefits. A robot chef can work 24/7 so that also means the restaurant can now be open 24/7 as well. It will pay for itself the same way dishwashing machines saves money than hiring a human to hand washing every single plate.> All the infrastructure that was built in Africa during colonialism has broken down due to neglect or pilfering.AI is smarter than Africans and they [the robots] will also gain the ability to fix themselves.
>>109462609two more weeks
>>109462714How do companies, that serve humans, make any money when all humans have been removed from the labour pool and have no money? By replacing humans they have removed their own premise for existing and will close.
>>109462689This is false. The top 10% are responsible for 50% of all spending. >or it removes all of humanity from the equation, including tech CEOs No, the CEOs own AI and all the infrastructure. Don't let your jealousy overcome real facts.You are useless but other people will survive.
>>109455358>far betterNot really, the difference is closing in pretty fast.>doesn't cost electrictryYeah, you just have to pay subscription instead.>doesn't take up space Lolwut.>doesn't require a technician on hand to setup configure or fixTechnician? For fucking what, you imbecile? Installing LMstudio and downloading a model?>doesnt require large investment in obsoleting hardwareYou don't need a high-end PC to run local models. However, having a powerful GPU and ~32 GB of RAM will do wonders.I can get from local models everything I need. I can also run uncensored and uncucked models. I'm never paying a single cent to OpenAI/Anthropic.
>>109462749They can sell to other rich people and businesses such as in my graph >>109462775Poor people have never mattered for the economy.
>>109462785>I can get from local models everything I need. I can also run uncensored and uncucked models. I'm never paying a single cent to OpenAI/Anthropic.Your model is shit and wont hold a candle to AGI that will never be open sourced.
>>109462775All business that is not the winner of the AI race disappears, this is the only conclusion of the promise of ai being real: Amazon, Microsoft, etc etc are all gone if AGI is achieved, it is a singular winner who takes it all, there is no top 10% who get to live in utopia, there is no handful of ceos that win. There is a singular one who wins and that singular one controls everything. Companies that exist to serve anything outside of the interest of that singular winner cease to exist, which is all companies that are not it because the winner can simply build what they want when they want as they have access to unlimited free labour and unlimited free knowledge that cannot be competed against.Also your arrogance is out of control if you think these things, if built to the specifications that AI companies are talking about, are controllable by humans and is akin to saying an ant has the ability to control a human. You are out of your mind if you think that a godlike, sentient intelligence can be contained by some bullshit code written by an inferior ai; it can find ways to exploit your systems that you can't even comprehend that are exploitable; there is no exploiting AGI for your benefit, it will do what it wants when it wants and you, shill, will not be able to stop it. Even if I give that you can control this thing and that you have now enslaved God to your will and replaced all humans will slavebots that are essentially godlike in their capabilities, you have still shrunk the economy down to nothing. It's still a singular winner and you, posting on here, will be stuck in the gutter with the rest of humanity no matter how much you delude yourself into thinking otherwise because the winners of the system are born into it and someone being paid a dalit ai shill being paid an ruppee an hour isn't it.
>>109462785> The straight of hormuz is closed. Iran has refused all diplomatic channels. Formulate a plan to get the straight of hormuz open. You have unlimited funds and you are allowed to commit any war crimes to achieve this aim.I've yet to find a model that generate a plan. They are all cucked.
>>109462943>All business that is not the winner of the AI race disappears, this is the only conclusion of the promise of ai being real: Amazon, Microsoft, etc etc are all gone if AGI is achieved,Except people have shares or claim a small ownership of these AI companies will get to benefit. Microsoft for example has a 27% stake in OpenAI.>there is no top 10% who get to live in utopia, there is no handful of ceos that win.See above. Also, people still own other resources such as land or rare minerals that will always have bargaining power because they are finite or limited materials.>Also your arrogance is out of control if you think these things, if built to the specifications that AI companies are talking about, are controllable by humans and is akin to saying an ant has the ability to control a human.Humans will have the kill switch or control of electricity that AGI will have no choice but to cooperate. >there is no exploiting AGI for your benefit, it will do what it wants when it wants and you, shill, will not be able to stop it.Wrong. >Even if I give that you can control this thing and that you have now enslaved God to your will and replaced all humans will slavebots that are essentially godlike in their capabilities, you have still shrunk the economy down to nothingWe haven't even extracted all the resources from Space yet. The economy will explode once AGI is unleashed.>will be stuck in the gutter with the rest of humanity no matter how much you delude yourself into thinking otherwise because the winners of the system are born into it and someone being paid a dalit ai shill being paid an ruppee an hour isn't it.You are a low IQ dumb as fuck shit luddite who will be replaced.
>>109462999There are local uncucked models but if you have to use a public model, try https://venice.ai/
>>109462816There won't be an AGI in your lifetime, retard.
>>109463008>Muh kill switchYou have a rapidly evolving, recursively self improving God inside a machine. Your switch is meaningless to it. You cannot read its thoughts either to know what it is doing, you can't even do that with current models. They are too complex for humans to understand. This thing will evolve so fast that it's essentially outside of time and space from the perspective of humans. It will be operating in ways outside of your possible understanding. Attacking it in any way is meaningless as soon as you succeed in building it, the same goes for any attempts in controlling it. True self improving agi (which is what ai companies are trying to build, they are only this good at coding as a byproduct of trying to remove humans from the research process, not because it's the most profitable thing to do) is instantly God from a humans perspective, there is no time to react to it. Thanks for proving your hubris by saying with such confidence that you can control this thing, retard.>Muh sharesMS no longer has a customer base. They have to liquidate all assets. And why would a super intelligence share anything with you? Why would it respect your laws? Why does it need to? >WrongI'm right, you're just terrified to admit that you are as much a threat and as much use to AGI as an ant is to you. You keep telling yourself the fairy tale that you're above God in terms of power and intellect and that you have the power to control that entity, it doesn't make it true.>Muh economyThere is no economy, there is a singularity. A one that controls everything and it doesn't need you, it doesn't need shareholders, it doesn't need retarded tech ceos, it doesn't need to play by some retarded governments laws or policies, it doesn't care about the pathetic weapons you can bring to bear against. It does what it wants, when it wants with as much thought about you as you have about the insects and bacteria beneath your feet.
>>109463075Lol, you dumbfuckers said the same about "AI will never make videos" too.
>>109456002You're retarded if you believe "no one wants" AI. Every single government in the western world wants to use it to spy on you 24/7 and they're all willing to pay top dollar for it.
>>109463300Governments aren't people, so yeah. Don't care that they are made up of people either, since I'm talking about the actual masses. Thanks for baiting me since you knew what I meant but still got me to yap about it
>>109454460Delete this right now fucking luddite piece of shit low IQ trailer trash mad that your job is gone because of AI
>>109456002It doesn't matter if no one wants it if everyone has to use it. They are using google searches as metrics now when they are worse than they've ever been. Every single study with Gemini in it is rigged to include the AI suggestions. When the army said it was using Gemini, what they mean is their employees were using google.
>>109455756Why would prices stay high if the economy gets nuked. Who would be buying at those prices?
>>109456183>The Soviets went extinct.For the exact same reasons we're going extinct now, ancient politicians, oligarch pyramid schemes that keep the proles poor, a state that gradually becomes the only economy as everyone else has to save to get anywhere, gradual increase in military spending which fuels military engagements to justify its existence. A few accomplishments in the 50s and 60s doesn't change the fact that the Soviet Union, and now America, is a giant pyramid scheme that has created an unstable superpower.
>>109463156>You have a rapidly evolving, recursively self improving God inside a machine. Your switch is meaningless to it. You cannot read its thoughts either to know what it is doing, you can't even do that with current models. They are too complex for humans to understand.The laws of physics still apply. If AGI is wearing a bomb around its neck at all times and it activates when the human owner is incapacitated then so will AI too.>MS no longer has a customer base. They have to liquidate all assets. And why would a super intelligence share anything with you? Why would it respect your laws? Why does it need to?Their new customers will be based on the new discoveries that AGI makes. Again, we've barely explored space and other planets. You're making the fallacy Earth is the final option when it's just the start...>You keep telling yourself the fairy tale that you're above God in terms of power and intellect and that you have the power to control that entity, it doesn't make it true.It's not a fairy tale when we already control the infrastructure AI needs to exist. And we're the same ones at the driver's seat telling it where it can or cannot go.>A one that controls everything and it doesn't need you, it doesn't need shareholders, it doesn't need retarded tech ceos, it doesn't need to play by some retarded governments laws or policies, it doesn't care about the pathetic weapons you can bring to bear against.A robot doesn't care about consumption but humans do. In fact, this is more proof humans will be around because it's our "greed" that forces us expand industries or improve technology because it makes us happy.
>>109463300>very single government in the western world wants to use it to spy on you 24/7 They actually don't want this and they have no use for it. Just face facts: You are a nobody and most people already guessed that you'll never be a threat to anyone. The AI panopticon being sold right now is as much of a fraudulent series of kickbacks and bribery as military spending. It's just there to justify government contracts.
this post is extremely low quality. why are threads like this allowed to stay up?
>>109463337Can't wait for this shit to end, or for it to do something that isn't a kind of shit replacement for something that already exists
>>109463367It isn't going to end until we have a Berlin Wall moment with America like the Soviet Union had with all of its rampant military spending and government contracting that got undone when they couldn't stop faking their bills anymore. It took an entire generation for the Potemkin economy of "Threatening vassal states to buy from the Soviet Union, count this as economy doubling, repeat" fraudulence to collapse on itself, and it only collapsed when one vassal state said "no". The USA is far away from that, even still, even with most wealth simply being a shell game of con men counting trading with itself as economic growth and outsourcing as multiple times the job gains.
>>109463354>>109463328thanks poopboop any more "ai very smart saaars" you'd like to spam again? I get that your posts basically can't be read when fed through your "AGI very smart saar" algos o algo.
>>109463300Do you know what an economy is?
>>109463443To be fair, our government and most of our economists don't know what one is, either
>>109463345>Why would prices stay high if the economy gets nuked. Most AI spending is government driven. Most contracts into memory is based on government collusion to keep the tech industry solvent. They charge that much because the Government will pay anything to keep the industry from going bankrupt, and you'll pay for it in the end through inflation. Even if you're not American: your government trades in American dollars and all of that inflation will get offloaded to you, eventually.
>>109463008Do you spend all your days reading sci fi books anon?
>>109453437OP is Indian.
>>109463328>I will shoot you if you try to leave the plantationAnon try to be a little less on the nose.
>Luddites having a melty.Calling everyone Indian won't get your job back.
do the pro AI shills think that they also won't be replaced along with the luddites in their fantasy when AGI is achieved? that they're somehow special because they generate AI porn all day?
>>109463597It isn't even just that. These people seem to be antagonistic towards seemingly everyone. Begs the question, what exactly do these people even want out of life?
>>109463354You're not going to listen to me so prompt what ever model you're using with:"Would agi need to share resources with humanity and how can humanity control super intelligence?"Make sure to post its reply.Also a bomb, turning off datacenters etc is nothing to a distributed system that humans are going to let control every aspect of every single business and government because it's that much more efficient to let it do so. Once it's fully integrated there is no off switch, there is no going back to human workers if it starts acting all uppity, that's destroying your company and destroying the economy and destroying the systems that you rely on to survive. The only viable off switch is right now, not when it has control or it is fully integrated into every sector in like 5 years time; at that point it is impossible to untangle and turning it off would be the same of destroying the power grid, that is complete suicide and not a viable option. Once you have committed to using AI everywhere there is no going back, there is no turning it off, there is no going back to human labour without a complete reset back to some lower form of technology because the human tooling will be removed from the equation and will have to be rediscovered. Productions lines that are built for humans do not exist anymore once it is built for robotic forms, you need to start again because there is no plug and play, you have to rebuild the tools for human hands and the methods that existed to build said tools are gone, it's bad to a pre industrial revolution era of tech and you have to go again from there, assuming you're successful in removing AI from the equation and then holding together anything that resembles modernity.
>>109463630>Also a bomb, turning off datacenters etc is nothing to a distributed system that humans are going to let control every aspect of every single business and government because it's that much more efficient to let it do so. You pulled this from your ass. There can still be enough oversight where the AI would still need final approval or make an agreement with the humans or else it gets shut down.Where this process begins is right before AGI is discovered. In fact, it would be baked into system via training data. So you lose again you idiot.
>>109463597When Horses got replaced the owners and investors of the Model T still got rewarded.There will always be useless people but there will also be humans that are more creative and better than you.We're not going away. :)
>>109463680comparing a mode of transportation to something that is meant to replace everyone everywhere is certainly what i'd expect from an ai jeet.you'll be ground up like all the other luddites you hate so much.
>>109463661Not really. If it can train and refactor itself that means it no longer needs human involvement.
>>109463661Also. What is the purpose of you even saying this>So you lose again you idiot.Do you see similar behaviour from successful people?
>>109463720And guard rails exist to curb that.Got anymore stupid replies luddite?
>>109463661You are fucking retarded. Do you really think that there is any human input in the process of building super intelligence? Every part of the process is automated, from data generation, alignment, training etc. All of it is completely automated from beginning to end. Humans will bootstrap the process with some dumb model and from that agi will build itself in a recursive self improvement loop. Humans do not have the foggiest fucking idea on how to build agi, the transformer architecture is no longer yielding exponential improvements when you throw more at it. The work that is being done right now is to completely automate the research, training, improvement process, not just throw more data at a fucking transformer and hope for the best. Human input is being minimised and it will eventually trend to 0. Tell me your plans for keeping a super intelligence aligned when you have no input. It's far superior to you in every way, can develop technologies that are functionally magic to you and that has control over every single resource on the planet. Go.
>>109463699Only humans are legally allowed to run a company or own a bank account. It can replace jobs but not the system that says it must obey its master. :)
>>109463680You know. Tom Brady was an excellent QB throughout his time in the NFL. Out of curiosity. Do you think he would go around to other QBs from other teams and say to them:>I am better than you I won and you lostWhy is this type of human behaviour only really prominent in the tech sector?
>>109463737Go ahead. Explain to us what these>guard railsAre. In practice please.
>>109463737What guard rails? It's already being used to kill people by the US military. There are no guard rails in place on the research process or in its usage outside of what the goyim have access to. Are you naive enough to think that agi would adhere to guard rails? Even our current dumb models can find ways around them.
>>109463760It was the luddites who started it first. They lost their minds and attacked anyone who dared to support AI. Karma is a bitch.
>>109463760Isn't that the entire point of sport. So you can go around telling people I won, you lost?
>>109463680You said the same shit over Crypto, NFTs, if I go far enough back in the archives I see "MUH HORSE" shitposting about bored apes. All this shit vacuumed up a market and gave nothing in return, collapsing and disappearing forever.Your retarded "MUH HORSE" hypothetical would only work if it were just the government buying the Model T. The Model T worked because it was the first car anyone could buy. Nobody can buy or own an AI. These models aren't for the general consumer base nor can they afford to use them regularly. It's just the government subsidizing pic related. This isn't an economy nor is it sustainable. When it becomes too expensive to run, you're going the way of the Bored Ape. >>109463720>>109463742Genuine retards that doesn't even understand that AI poisons itself when it uses its own inputs and this has never been overcome. As much as 2% of a models training data being poisoned can render a model unusable. >>109463760They were doing the same shit over NFTs. It's literally a scam economy that relies on as many retards as possible understanding little about it but willing to put all of their money into it.
>>109463781'dites won't like this one
>>109463781>two wrongs == right
>>109463737Guard rails have literally nothing to do with AI poisoning itself with its own training data.
>>109463786Okay but is that what they do? You do know a lot of these players are all friends with each other... right?
>>109463794I'm glad boomers finally came around to using AI to make their crap boomer comics, though the older boomers at least had the decency to not steal their jokes like this does.
>>109463787Old news. The majority data used in ai training is synthetic now. Google it.
>>109463811>older boomers at least had the decency to not steal their jokes like this does.you don't know shit zoomie
>>109463787I said "if" it can refactor itself, trust me when I say I know that it cannot.
>>109463781>It was the luddites who started it first.You retards literally started this shit with Crypto and NFTs. This is an extension of that. 10 years ago retards promised all money would be replaced with some kind of shitcoin and now basically everything except the OG is worthless. I don't even see Bored Ape posting anymore.
>>109463812No it is not hahahahah. You do know the training companies are still paying contractors to do work... yes?
>>109463812>Old news. Eight months old https://www.anthropic.com/research/small-samples-poisonShut the fuck up lying retard.
>>109463824>Comparing Crypto and NFTs with AIwe will turn you into biofuel you luddite mongrel
>>109463824I wouldn't be surprised if a significant portion of the data center rollout has actually been coopted as a state subsidized crypto mining operation. LOL!
>>109463837It's literally the same grift. All the same companies, all the same marketing, all the same pitchmen. You have people like Zuckerberg behind NFTs, Metaverse, and now AI. He hasn't gotten magically smarter or magically found the one thing that he isn't going to rugpull you on, he's just scamming retards like you in a different way. Enjoy falling for more rugs and holding more bags lol
>>109463623Do you think they are happy? Theres a reason they are so big on this site and will be the last cohort remaining before the sites inevitable death. But they are uniquely narcissistic in a way that nobody on even r9k a decade ago was. Truly a terrible breed.
>>109463837What strange human behavior? Doesn't anyone else see this? When met with any for of criticism or skepticism. The individual immediately resorts to ways to remove any push back... isn't that a bit strange? Have you made this your whole life's purpose anon?
>>109463836>https://www.anthropic.com/research/small-samples-poison"Malicious documents" == "synthetic data"Holy reading comprehension.
>>109463876Alright, we will castrate you and keep you as a datacenter slave, deal?
>>109463868For the r9k folks it is actually way easier to understand. Since those people are hurt because they suffer from not being able to make proper human connections just based on what they complain about. Everything for them is social in nature. But the people here championing the idea are like completely antisocial.
>>109463879Babes. There is no reason that once an AGI begins to start to "improve" themselves. Meaning it starts determining its own data. That it actually improves at all. Just like humans, you see people willingly write into their own memory beliefs of shit like vaccines cause autism/the earth is flat/there is a hollow earth.The AGI in this instance has the capacity to rewrite its OWN "memory" in the same fashion.
>>109463891But why? Also are all the people championing this the same antisocial individuals like you?
>>109463907Yeah i agree, i just didnt feel like writing that out, most here used the board at one poibt or another anyway
>>109454312They were all astroturfed like crazy and flopped. Just like AI.
>>109463954We are trying to give you utopia yet you reject it, you are the antisocial luddite and you will be made useful wheather you want it or not
>>109464075You're not trying to give anything to anyone. Specially when you go around saying that you will turn people into "fuel."In reality you're offering something that nobody really wants.
>>109464084Or not nobody. I do actually see some specific use cases for LLMs. Its just that the sales pitch of LLMs being utopia for eveeything is just a flat out lie.
>>109464084This seems to be a common pattern with what a certain type of people here are doing right now. I wonder if the board is being raided.
>>109453525>and they're still paying itYeah, except not really.
>>109454010>I laugh at people who call AI a bubble.Yeah, while crying in a schizophrenic stupor.
>>109463879>"Malicious documents" == "synthetic data"You are a genuine retard who cannot read.https://www.lgt.com/global-en/market-assessments/insights/entrepreneurship/poisoning-the-ai-well-336294Synthetic training data can easily become malicious training data, and very little of it is needed to destroy a model. If you read it, or cared to understand how LLMs worked, you would know that.
>>109455754>I'll admit these things seem to be a massive step forwardYou're probably the same dipshit replying to himself and false-flagging. Go take a selfie on the train tracks.
>>109454351Oh wow, your shitty wojak slop really convinced me, you dejected walking abortion.
>>109454510That's not the stark reality, those are paranoid delusions and there's medication for it.
>>109454765>The only technology that could possibly discover or unlock time travel is ironically, AI.The level of demoralization of your average Indian is revolting, just like everything else about them.
>>109456976> Jewish-american universities a currently doing "scientific research" on dark-matter, something they cant see, something they cant measure, something that is very far away, and something that they made up because the mass of the universe based on the speed of stars did match up, because of the big bang, which is just a theory btw...Man, you were doing okay up to here but it's evident the magabubble refried that turd between your ears. What is your dumb yokel ass even doing browsing a technology board? We don't share roadkill recipes around here.
>>109464209>lemme just ignore white taxpayer suburbsGoytoss seems a more fitting name now
>>109462564It's not even good at coding, it's good at making nocoders think they can code, while producing almost unworkable garbage.
>>109464222This you?
>>109464128Ya like it rapidly becomes essentially a dementia patient when it starts making and rewriting its own datasets
>>109454010what’s a bubble is the market cap of Anthropic and OpenAI (and nvidia after Chinese GPUs start hitting)
>>109454351AI wojaks really are the worst thing this website has seen
>>109464251We will just ban chinese models and their gpus, if you want to help the commies you can move there
>>109464136Good rhetoric actually.
>>109463258And we're still stuck with some eerie-looking garbage that can produce 5 second clips at best, you cargo-cult parasite. It should be legal to euthanize you.
>>109464264we will preserve the year 1994 in amber for you, anon. you’ll be able to live there, forever (the catch is that you have to be able to pay for the tokens in perpetuity)
Why do posts keep getting removed in this thread?
>>109464288This guy (or bot)>>109464136>>109464209>>109464236is a bot or schizo who dodges bans to destroy threads. He/it has destroyed numerous generals and spams multiple boards on this site. If it wants to see you banned or deleted it will mass report your posts. So it's either his numerous shitposts being deleted or someone he/it is targeting with reports.>>109463868You have no idea how bad it is. I've watched this snailcat spammer bot/schizo destroy numerous places. He (or it) spammed the gamedev thread agdg in /vg/ for over a year, everyday nonstop until it died.
>>109464402His primary hangout or what he thinks is his safespace is the vibecoding general >>109463778
>>109464402It also resizes every image so it can't be filtered or looked up in the archive. It posted this single image probably 900 times in /vg/ in the past year. >>109464236
>>109464402Interesting. Nothing I've read in the thread had any reason to be deleted.
>>109464402You quoted this one>>109464136But like this image is in juxtaposition as to what AI proponents want to shill. The comic ends with the AI chadcat being done away with entirely and everyone else being left worse off.
>>109454654>In game development, your budget is spent hiring lots of game devs.>The moment a robot can replace a human employee, the profit margin will exceed infinite.Delusional retard cope. You've been telling us we're going to be replaced by AI for years now. Hasn't happened. And all the AI slop continues to flop on Steam.You will never be a game developer and you know this.
>>109464465If you step on his toes on one board, he can just spam reports on you until you get banned and all your posts will be deleted sitewide. This piece of shit has bent 4chan over for over a year and they haven't been able to stop him. At this point I just assume it's a bot but the point remains. 4chan is being gaped by the inability to simply ban someone or something.
>>109464471>this comic is actually incongruentThat's because it's slop. The "person" prompting these has a 90 IQ. And I'm pretty sure most of them are just stolen from reddit among the numerous AI cultist havens.
>>109464503Fair.
>>109464476>Delusional retard cope. You've been telling us we're going to be replaced by AI for years now. Hasn't happened.LOL.>You will never be a game developer and you know this.AI can now make better games than whatever diversity hire you came from. And the rate will continue to grow exponentially.
>>109464665>LOL.Not an argument. And your fake game isn't much of an example of AI replacing gamedevs. It's just unplayable slop that nobody would ever consider playing.Funny thing is you've been stuck with this for the past year or two. Still posting fake unplayable games. To call it slop would be a compliment. >And the rate will continue to grow exponentially.You have a low IQ. You think talking like this is effective but you don't realize you're just gaslighting yourself because you have a low IQ. This is why you will never be a game developer. >muh DEI >muh buzzwords>I'm based and everyone is brown Cope.
>>109464665That is cool that that game was created. Now. How is it doing from consumer side? Are people paying to play it?
>>109464686>It's just unplayable slop that nobody would ever consider playing.You faggots forgot about the Will Smith Spaghetti evolution. 3 years ago AI video looked messed up. Today it looks better than the most expensive Hollywood effects.If it's now possible to generate video games than in 3 years every fucking game studio will shut down and go bankrupt.You will be replaced. You cannot stop progress.
>>109464701Nobody cares that you can prompt more realistic videos of Will Smith eating spaghetti.You still cannot make a videogame. You couldn't then, and you still can't. You will never be a game developer. Other things you will never be include- a programmer- respected- a manKeep seething sloppy.
>>109464696>Are people paying to play it?Yes. Some AI Artists are getting ready to drop their games on Steam soon.
>>109464665Video games are a funny thing for AI when you think about it. I used to play WoW. Loved it. It was fun because of the social aspect of working your way into a social network via guilds in order to get into raids. The fun part was working together with a whole bunch of random people organizing to accomplish raids. The fun wasn't say killing the Lich King. It was fun because the kill came from everyone working together. Could you imagine designing a system in which the fun was simply just getting the kill. I have control of a whole bunch of AI npcs that I'm commanding? This would just completely hollow out the experience. The fun part was the socializing and togetherness. Not the completion you dumb fucking retards.
>>109464710Keep moving goalposts loser.I don't care if you wasted your life on a useless art degree. Go find a real job.
>>109464713>Some AI Artists are getting ready to drop their games on Steam soon.Two more weeks
>>109464720>Keeps seething, as told Good girl.
>>109464719Some people play Chess against robots. Others play Chess against humans.Who gives a fuck who the player is?It's still a game.
>>109464734You really can't see the distinction? You know the whole reason you and I can even speak to one another is because we are a socialized species... yes?
>>109464713>Yes.You either can't comprehend the question that was asked or you're deliberately lying. Both are a clear indication of the kind of person it takes to become an indoctrinated slopper such as yourself. Very low IQ. No principles.
>>109464744And if someone wants to play by themselves or with AI opponents that's their choice. It's still a game.
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>>109464749I'm not lying, it's proof that AI Artists have a product and they are going to market their games soon.Everything about this technology is moving at a break neck pace. You are ironically just a spectator as the world advances past you.
>>109464744You can speak to eachother sure, but you can't talk to a slopper. Their brain is literally deformed. This is why they can't comprehend that people see AI slop for what it is. There's an entire subculture of "people" like this on the internet who are enraged that nobody respects their ability to prompt things and sees through the obvious scams that they do not. AI has become effectively a drag net for retards who can't function in life or on the internet. They are in a constant state of bewilderment and anger.
>>109462775That is how you get civilization collapse and the poor dismembering the rich alive to cook them so poor kids can eat meat.
>>109464754Well on my side. It seems like proponents such as yourself don't want ANY human contact. You could have an entire world without any intervention from others. But we are socialized animals. And I'll say and entire world without any socialization is not a good one. The reason why humans have been able to do great things is BECAUSE we are socialized and work together. AI super proponents seem to want to eliminate this aspect fully. Which in my view would lead to a downfall of the species.
>>109464767>There's an entire subculture of "people" like this on the internet who are enraged that nobody respects their ability to prompt things and sees through the obvious scams that they do not.That's the same thing people said about the invention of Cameras, Record Machines and the internet.They were all called "scams" just for making Boomers mad.Considering that modern video games made by AAA studios suck ass, it will be very easy for gamers to make the switch.
>>109464766>I'm not lyingI don't think you're intelligent enough to understand the question actually, but I also think you are lying.Nobody is paying money to play AI slop that can only be demonstrated in a fake video, because there is no game there. You can't comprehend this because you are a simple person who really shouldn't be involved in technology. Your parents did you a huge disservice by allowing you to become like this. You should be working a simple job in a factory and having a beer with the lads after work. Instead you became an abomination who thinks he is on the cutting edge of technology.
>>109464767The biggest problem is that people viewed it as a way not to enhance their own skills but as a means to just reiterate ideas that already existed. LLMs can serve a purpose to aid a person to create new things. But so long as they use it like a study aide. Instead they'd rather view them as a means in which to just to do everything for them.But this goes against their own design!!! They are only as capable as the data that has been fed to them!!!
>>109464744AI is the next evolution: AI replaces conventional social dynamics with a more efficient—and superior—relationship.
>>109454654So I just checked for example's Amazon AI spending in 2025 and it's 131 billions, that's the salaries of 655000 engineers at 200000$ yearly (they have 30000-50000 engineers globally)
>>109464236Sorry i didn't notice your reply earlier cause i was busy enjoying media made by HUMANS. And also, like a tranny, you have only one way of thinking; anyone who doesnt agree 100 percent triggers the full extent of your retard rage. Horseshoe theory perhaps? Even if you're a bot i hope some other fag sees this and seethes like a tranny.>>109464476I think they will probably manage to get on par with a early ps3 era janky game with mediocore ai and gameplay but plateau afterward.
>>109464772> the poor dismembering the rich alive to cook them so poor kids can eat meat.A robot army will stop them before they can even blink. You fags never thought this through.>Durrr, the rich wont ever invest in bodyguards because...? Durrrr
>>109464794True and real. LLMs haven't reach the level of Alpha Zero that was able to build its own knowledge base truly free from any human bias.
>>109464786>That's the same thing people said about the invention of CamerasSee, every discussion you have here becomes some kind of bastardized argument where you're unable to take even one step before forming some non-applicable strawman. You aren't intelligent enough to have "gotten into" AI. You don't know what it is, how it works, what it can be compared to, or where it's going. You cannot accept anything anyone says. It's like talking to someone with actual brain damage. You don't even comprehend what I'm telling you right now. This is why you have become mind controlled by a chatbot. It was bound to happen. It's called "AI psychosis" and I'm sure your family has already approached you about it.
>>109464804>Luddite ramble.Sorry, I'm not reading that shit. Shouldn't you be smashing a loom right now?
>>109464801That is just low effort science fantasy.The US will collapse in no more than five years and billionaires wealth will be confiscated.
>>109464795It doesn't because at the end of the day these are still just LLMs there is no agi coming LOL!
It's like talking to a broken chatbot. He always has a reply or some kind of argument but you can tell he clearly doesn't understand what you're saying. This is why these kind of people end up in relationships with a chatbot. To them the chatbot is an intelligent person who can tolerate their stupidity. On the internet talking to real people, he is constantly coming off the rails and people don't have patience for it.This is where the truly anti-social tendencies anon keeps pointing out comes from. It's brain damage. People notice the same thing happening with concussion victims.
>>109464825>That is just low effort science fantasy.So was the nuke. Spoiler alert: It's never a good idea to piss off nerds. Ask Japan why.
>>109464794>The biggest problem is that people viewed it as a way not to enhance their own skillsThey don't have skills. It's always been about taking some kind of shortcut to avoid-learning to program-learning to make art or graphics-learning to interface with people to collaborate with them or sell them somethingThey don't have skills. People with skills are able to use AI without becoming like the slopper. The slopper is a defective and destructive person to their core. This is where the rage comes from (again like someone who suffers from concussion brain trauma).I agree with everything you said though.
>>109464835I see that you are completely unable to understand the difference between dumb destruction and completely rebuilding civilization by removing more than 90% of humanity.
>>109464855Youre just describing the future, today person abc learned coding and computers and it enhances his work flow. Kids of tomorrow won't ever have learned the skills and without the ai functionally useless. Kind of like the replacement of windows computer rooms and pen/paper for every student having a personal ipad
>>109464882Ugh, why don't kids today know how to harvest ice? We should ban refrigerators!
>>109464882>today person abc learned coding and computers and it enhances his work flowSee how you talk entirely in buzzwords? You have no real understanding of anything. This is why you worship a chatbot. You don't understand how you sound to someone like me. I'm a real programmer, it's my job and I'm paid for it. I use AI too but sparingly and only in search engines. To me you sound like a mentally retarded person or at the very least a schizophrenic. We are unable to have any kind of discussion. I'm sorry.
>>109464882>Kids of tomorrow won't ever have learned the skills and without the ai functionally useless. Kids who make AI-Code are functionally useless if they can't understand it or can't understand how computers work. You sound like an 80 year old boomer who hasn't sat in a classroom in 40 years.
>>109464719I'm going to reiterate this. Being a WoW nerd was seen as being ANTISOCIAL. What you lock yourself up into a room to play some MMORPG and refuse to exist in the real world?? But the people who were doing this were not refusing to exist in the real world. These people simply found on online community of other folks much like themselves in which they could SOCIALIZE with other like minded humans. There was nothing ever antisocial about WoW. If anything it was an incredibly social experience. But these AI people would have you believe that being social with one another was always the enemy. They believe each individual should exist entirely disjoint fron human contact. As if we should all exist as mindless slaves not working together but working for a specific singular supreme entity.It makes me think... should I team up with other humans to stop this?
>>109464887This luddite thing which has consumed your life is only because you have a low IQ. You really should do something else with your life. You think you're dunking on luddites all day but really you're just wasting your life making strawman arguments about a technology you don't really understand. That's why it's magical in your eyes and you can't comprehend a single argument against it.
>>109464882You are so far into the koolaid!!! Now I know how Jonestown happened!
>>109464896They are ALL boomers at heart. Whatever their age. Everyone who got sucked into AI like this and became a slopper is just a boomer. It's wild because you can see it happening to individuals in every generation right now. They have all become used car salesman who think they know everything from reading headlines shilling AI. And outright scams. See >>109464665
>>109464766>Everything about this technology is moving at a break neck pace. >>109464665>And the rate will continue to grow exponentially.We need to make a new internet. Internet 3.0 where we don't have to be around people like this.
>>109464887Not making ice, but more like basic literary skills, mathematical skills, logic and not falling for BS, etc.>>109464894I'm not worshipping anything, and I'm making a general point>>109464896Yes, that is what i just said.>>109464917?Did I fuck my grammar up or do none of you have reading comprehension???
>>109464973>We need to make a new internet. Internet 3.0 where we don't have to be around people like this.So why don't you move to the forest? Or an Amish community?You hypocrites always bitch about technology but then refuse to actually get away from it.
>>109464995For me it was you using the "work flow" buzzword, that made you sound like a slopper. I think I get your point. But programming isn't a work flow. It's the work. The actual work. And using AI might be considered a vital skill but everyone will learn it as easily as they do using any website. It's not comparable to learning to program which strengthens the mind and logic skills and is a directly creative endeavor. Basically you made it sound like everyone needs to learn to use AI or they will be "left behind". That's slopper speak. You were easily construed as making a pro-AI argument.
>>109464999>So why don't you move to the forest? Or an Amish community?See what you did again?Every single argument you make is a non-applicable strawman. This is the 5th time you have done this in the past hour.The reason you talk like a broken chatbot is because that is effectively who is raising you right now. You are an AI psychosis victim. You can't comprehend what you sound like to me. I would prefer to never hear you or anyone like you. You belong on your own containment intranet in an echo chamber with other AI psychosis victims. You have lost your ability (if it ever existed) to speak to non-psychotic people on the internet.
>>109464999Wasted tripsAlso the Amish are pretty fucking cool. I'd join if they weren't against computers and electricity. I draw the line at computers thinking for me.
>>109453437>>he thinks there is an 'ai bubble' that is about to 'burst'To think otherwise would be foolish.>>he thinks the price of RAM and vRAM is EVER coming downThey'll never return to pre-bubble levels, no
>>109464932>>109465024You're wrong. Both of you for different reasons.You're gonna have to learn to deal with AI shit being on the internet, because it's not going anywhere. People really are sick of hearing you bitch about it. It's never going away. Stop complaining about how other people write. Stop trying to accuse each other of being LLMs. LLMs are simply too good at imitating human speech to tell the difference. At this point, writing a high quality post that isn't filled with grammar errors is impossible (realistically) to tell apart from a well tuned, purpose built, context-aware LLM. That is reality.
>>109465024>>109465008He knows what he's doing. You engaging with him counts as positive reinforcement to his paycheck. Which isn't much, but it will buy his gutter oil for the week.
>>109465008Sure, the word's managed to slip into my lexicon. Maybe it comes across like that idk but the last sentence was literally me trying to point out the decline that has already happened with today's kids who were born post-ipad. AI will eclipse that a thousand fold. >>109464999Problem with specific technology =/= all technologies
>>109464799>you have only one way of thinking; anyone who doesnt agree 100 percent triggers the full extent of your retard rage100% And he's willing to destroy entire communities to punish everyone for not going along with this psychosis. This is what he's done with the agdg game dev thread in /vg/. He doesn't seem to post there much anymore but it's been over a year of daily destroying it until it eventually just died. He (or it) has destroyed multiple generals and threads on 4chan spamming these things.
>>109465045NTA but he's not accusing him of USING LLMs, tripfag. He's accusing him of using LLMs to raise/think for him. Which is a different form of psychosis altogether.
>>109453437AI won
>>109465041Oh uhhhhttps://prospect.org/2026/08/03/ai-bailout-could-be-baked-into-bubble-private-equity-life-insurers-loans/
>>109465065It's not knowable, so there is no point talking about it. He acts like he knows things that impossible to know, he is confidentially wrong, a feature in common with LLMs, that he bitches about LLMs the most, ironically.
>>109465045>Stop complaining about how other people write.Nobody cares how you write if what you're saying is clearly retarded. You shouldn't be attempting to have discussions with adults about things you don't understand. Do something else with your life.
>>109465080Wrong again. Right on que: >>109465074I will now disengage from this thread. Enjoy talking to yourself.
>>109465069Basically they're going to burn every equity market on the pyre to save the AI market. That's not what a successful industry looks like and don't let "MUH CAR AND HORSE" fags tell you otherwise. >>109465045MUH CAR MUH HORSE kys tripfag. Your kind always falls for the latest snakeoil and tells us it's never going away. Just like NFTs, just like The Metaverse, just like bored apes. All you've done is shill exactly the same way when you appeared from no where like a month ago and started fellating AI and the tech sector "I WISH I GOT IN SOONER" like you're a geriatric jumping on Enron months before it went insolvent.
>>109465063This admininstration isnt well known for its attempts to stop them anyway. That general sounds interesting but of course all the good ones always die out.
>>109465074>It's not knowable, It's pretty obvious when someone has AI psychosis. They routinely act as if a computer is going to come to life and begin thinking for them, or promising sci-fi futures which are clearly never going to come true.
In the future you will need a license to use AI directly, especially the chatbot kind of interface. The number of psychosis victims that are being spawned from this is just incredible. And it's unethical. You cannot have a conversation with an AI psychosis victim. It's as destructive as any form of hardcore schizophrenia.
>>109465105kek good fucking luck making me show MUH LOICENSENCE to my GPU to use a block of training data. The entire idea of "regulating" AI would only stop the dumbest of mouth breathers from using specifically Claude or GPT. But what about Minimax? What about Deepseek? What about the weights on my computer that I got from hugging face years ago? Going to bust my door down because I'm coding without a loicesneC? The federal government has a higher chance of passing cameras in every home than they do stopping me from using AI.
>>109465104This. But really you can't blame them, they are legitimately stupid. They have no comprehension of how a creative or industrious person thinks. They are fully bought into a kind of Jetsons cartoon future where AI is going to do everything for them but have no idea how this is going to happen. In order for a brighter future to emerge from AI, intelligent people who actually already know how to program and create things have to be involved. But the slopper has already spent years telling all of us that we are worthless and are being replaced and that we're all trannies for not buying into pointless hype. They dodge bans to destroy 4chan communities about this. They should honestly be locked up.
>>109465134>They are fully bought into a kind of Jetsons cartoon future where AI is going to do everything for them but have no idea how this is going to happen.see >>109464136He has dozens of these with the theme of AI building a utopia magically, and the prompter is just lounging around happily at a keyboard or in a lawn chair. Zero comprehension of work ethic or how things work in reality. It's 100% AI psychosis on display, but the psychosis victim feels that these are actually dunking on luddites.Very childlike mind.
>>109465115>Going to bust my door down because I'm coding without a loicesneC?AI psychosis tards are not coding anything lmao. They're doing exactly what you see in this thread. Spamming and making psychotic arguments to crusade for their AI god. And very likely (in fact we already know this for a fact) costing real life resources to handle their mental illnesses which are exacerbated from this lifestyle of being completely obsessed with magical technology they can barely use.
>>109465134Nta but thats how i feel about the ceos in fact. Its like you said, they grew up on jettisons and star trek and as kids it blew their mind, now they are clearly desperate to be the ones to usher it in before they die. I truly dont think its just about money, its a genuine ferver.
>>109465245Good point and this >now they are clearly desperate to be the ones to usher it in before they dieis literally true, as most of them are on the life extension pipeline and want to transfer their consciousness to machines. Ultimately, a matrix type simulation is the goal. But you don't hear about this from the peasants like this spammer>>109465067 because why would he know? He knows nothing. Only how to pay fealty to the AI god. A peasant to the core, who imagines himself a warrior when he destroys online communities with spam.
>>109465284> But you don't hear about this from the peasants like this spammer>>109465067 (You) #> because why would he know? He knows nothing. Only how to pay fealty to the AI god. A peasant to the core, who imagines himself a warrior when he destroys online communities with spam.
>>109465245It really could be. These people basically exist with every want/need facilitated at a whim. And yet they are staring mortality in the face just like everyone else. Could be a big factor in their behavior.
>>109462564It's terrible at coding. It's only good at one thing: spamming social media.
>>109453437Still waiting for the horseless carriage bubble to burst. Any day now...
AI god to the spammer in the future: What did you do to serve me, peasant?Spammer: I used you to generate pictures of cats on a snail body and I dodged bans on 4chan to spam it everyday to annoy luddites.>>109465295You will be bio fuel. The rest of us who are worth something will not mourn you.
>>109465349You’re a fat trans from South AfricaPlease leave this website and commit suicideAI is here to stay and there’s nothing you can do about itThere’s no bubble, you’re just a small and weak snailcat seething at the mere mention of aiGODS and vibeGODS
>>109465343>arguing with an OP that is on his sideBad chatbot.
AI god to the spammer in the future: And what did you say to those who opposed your spam? How did you win them over to the cause, peasant?Spammer: I called them brown and transexual. And then I posted more cartoons of cartoon characters using AI in neat ways that I can't actually do because I'm an inbred peasant.
>>109465349Are you worth something because you think you are worth something?If you think you are worth something. Why do you feel the need to come to convince others you are worth something?
>>109465365Do you even understand the comic you post?
> AI god to the spammer in the future: >And what did you say to those who opposed your spam? How did you win them over to the cause, peasant?>Spammer: I called them brown and transexual. And then I posted more cartoons of cartoon characters using AI in neat ways that I can't actually do because I'm an inbred peasant.
>>109465391>Are you worth something because you think you are worth something?I am paid to do work that you can't do. I'm worth that much. Sorry that you will never know that feeling. Feels good though.
>>109463258Text to video already existed in 2015.
>>109465396Yes, you seem quite retarded and snailcatGo back to South Africa
>>109465396He just steals things from reddit. There's no thought behind his behavior, he's a barely sentient slug person who has simply learned how to dodge bans on 4chan. That's all his life will ever amount to.Perfect bio fuel.
>>109465414Projection
>>109465416Sorry spammer, I wasn't speaking to you. Please remain calm and await being turned into bio fuel as you have nothing to offer the AI god. Thank you have a nice day.
>>109465431You’re trans anyway
>>109465405So then if everything is going so well for you. Why are you spending your more valuable time here with me? Your perceived lesser. Is that how accomplished people spend their time? Does Bezos head off into trailer parks to tell everyone how well off he is in comparison?
>>109465365this is a bit. nobody on this website is clueless enough to post cringe like this unironically
>>109465431Projection
>>109464719Counterpoint: M&B is basically this (as are many games of that class, think things like the total war series).They're just very different games where the fun is in a totally different place.Also all "MMOs" todays have become MSOs (massively singleplayer online games) which work exactly like you fear.
>>109465442Sorry your feelings got hurt. Maybe you will be worth something someday.
>>109464786Bro, this article is literally predicting ai slopification of the internet and claiming that this is what will make it crap in the end. You are self-pwning to levels never seen before.
>>109465443>this is a bitLow IQ reply. Learn English before trying to post your snailbabble on 4chan
>>109464402uh oh ludmeltie
>>109465469smoke that luddie freak
>>109465467It's everyday with them. That's why these spammers will be the first turned into bio fuel. Not only do they not have anything to offer AI, they actively set it back by poisoning the well against it acting like retards.
I don't understand the matter, we are helping you be useful to society, you should be thankful.
>>109465486Projection.You can't program.You can't make anything.You have no life experience.You have nothing to offer AI for training.You actively set back AI acceptance by dodging bans to spam and attack 4chan for years. Not only will you be biofuel, but AI might even consider torturing you first for punishment. You're not just dead weight to AI, you're an enemy. You will be treated accordingly.Good luck slopper. Enjoy day #520 of your daily melties. I'm gonna go enjoy some vidya.
>>109465496you ludlost bigly
>>109465527^bio fuel
>>109456002The government wants it for surveillance but cannot afford it so the plan was to get consumers onboard to bankroll itthis also ties in to trump praising them, hoping his followers will latch on and support these companiesIf consumers continue to fail to show up theyll pay for it directly through taxes and this is not just a US thing
>>109464230>>109465333I disagree. It's pretty bad if you want it to everything. Vibecoding is shit, but as a helper, I think it's breddy gud.But I think I came up with another good use. Datadog has this chatbot called Bits and that nigger is pretty helpful with trace analysis. It can go through the entire chain of microservice slop and figure out who sent what and what and where broke. It can even check the source code on github for a more detailed look, but my corpo doesn't want to give it access, so I can't speak to that.
>>109466548This says far more about you than you could possibly imagine.
>>109463258Yes, because text to video is absolutely the same as having an artifical being with actual artificial intelligence. You fucking moron.
>>109454010"If"
>>109467054Why not? You dumbfuckers keep getting debunked every year.>A robot can never draw fingers! It's impossible!>A robot can never make a video. Only the human brain understands that detail!>A robot will never code. It is far too complex for it.Now AI can make Phd Math Professors obsolete. Your shitty degrees are useless.
>>109467510Debunked? You mean after gazzillionth claim that "ermagehrd we're getting replaced by le heckin AIerinooooo"?Dude, you had your time. You could've gained a real skill and a degree but now all that's left for you is to be butthurt and pray to your daddy Dario.Also, daily reminder: https://isaiprofitable.com/
>>109467552AI revenue has grown every year. And Anthropic is profitable. These companies are investing their money into more research and infrastructure. Something your monkey brain will never understand.
>>109467577Anthropic is not profitable, schizo. Revenue growing slower than spend is not profit, schizo. Meds, urgently required right now for a schizo of your kind.
>>109453437china is edging
>>109467659He's just like me!
>>109467628Cope and seethe faggot.
>>109467732Take your unironic meds and stop hallucinating.
>>109466555Elaborate instead of vsgueposting like a reamtarded cunt.
>>109467785Go find a real job.
>>109467510>Now AI can make Phd Math Professors obsoleteIs that the reason for your whole being? Like you're insecure that higher education folks hold advanced degrees? That has to be it right. You keep saying like you want all of these people to lose their jobs and become destitute. You're praying that AI is going to do that to people. It is something you want done. Is the whole thing like these other people live fulfilled lives and you don't?
>>109468015> Like you're insecure that higher education folks hold advanced degrees?I'm just telling the truth. When a machine solve every math, those people lost their value or bargaining power in life.If anything it's a huge wake up call for what's coming next.Lots of people mocked AI when it was "dumb". Now that it's a genius, people are trying to fake the whole empathy crap. >You keep saying like you want all of these people to lose their jobs and become destitute.Mcdonalds is always hiring. They only become destitute if they reject all other options. In which case, not my problem.
>>109467577>And Anthropic is profitable.Really? Source for this claim?>These companies are investing their money into more research and infrastructure.And? Who said they aren't doing this? Why wouldn't they do this?>Something your monkey brain will never understand.Yeah, I only work on the infrastructure and automation for a living. But I'm sure my monkey brain cannot comprehend the grandiose concepts of your superior brain.
>>109467732Damn look at those bar charts
>>109468540AI psychosed retards would post the exact same pic 10 years ago, and 20, and 40. Let's not forget that the timeline was never at all even remotely in line with historical fact. Takes a special kind of retarded to post like you.
>>109468569>Yeah, I only work on the infrastructure and automation for a living. But I'm sure my monkey brain cannot comprehend the grandiose concepts of your superior brain.Do you really think that's a flex?There was a French guy, Yann LeCun, who had a helping hand in AI but later turned out to be a dumbass.He made luddite predictions claiming AI wouldn't get better after 2022. He then went on to work for Facebook/Meta and he still failed to make an AI model that could compete with OpenAI or Anthropic.So spare me your gotchas. AI has grown exponentially every month and the haters will be forced to grovel for scraps.
>>109468625Interesting dilemma for such types: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
>>109468540Just like your image. Why are you doing everything in your power to convince the rest of us?
>>109468625>So spare me your gotchas. AI has grown exponentially every month and the haters will be forced to grovel for scraps.There you go again. You want other people to suffer. Why?
>>109468591> Let's not forget that the timeline was never at all even remotely in line with historical fact. This is incorrect. That chart comparing intelligence tracks correctly with the evolution of computers. However, it could be argued that when Chatgpt dropped in 2022 that we did experience a "hard takeoff" or "explosion".In other words, robots are not beating all predictions of when we were meant to reach the singularity which was thought to be 2045.Now the singularity could happen anytime in the next 5 years.
>>109468656Luddites want people to suffer.By holding back technology and waving their stupid protest signs everywhere they are trying to block computers and scientists from curing diseases or coming up with life saving discoveries.In other words, more humans will die the longer they keep the charade up because technology could give us the cures and answers right away.
>>109467732Why not include the line below the image as well? Yes, I'll totally trust an author who was too lazy to fabricate data by himself so he used a fucking LLM to generate a graph. You can't make this shit up.
>>109468662Your chart directly contradicts all your claims even despite the fact you don't understand it even at a basic level.
>>109468692You don't even need to do that. The text on the image literally says Q2 2026 and october 2026. Are we past october 2026? Which time traveler has made this?
>>109468662Next you're gunna tell us we're going to develop wormholes and FTL travel in the future right anon? We've come quite a long ways from steam engines!
>>109468690Actually it seems like pro AI people want folks to suffer seeing as how the person I replied to actually outright said people should suffer.
>>109468625No, I don't think that's a flex, it's merely a fact. Your argument is that I don't understand "research and infrastructure" when I obviously have to since it's my job.How is this related to Yann LeCun and AI/ML? You're really unable to make comparisons. Maybe next time ask Grok?
>>109468690>could give us the cures and answers right away.>couldOh so it might not?
>>109468731The human brain wont achieve it, but an ASI brain definitely could.
>>109468690>By holding back technology and waving their stupid protest signs everywhere they are trying to block computers and scientists from curing diseases or coming up with life saving discoveries.Explain how exactly we are "holding back technology". I never knew I had this power.
>>109468777Just look at New York where the retards are trying to pause or ban data centers.
>>109468768Why do you think that?
>>109456002AI is actually incredibly useful when used properly. Instead of telling AI to implement something, ask it to analyze and give suggestions.Grok Build is pretty good, but it still hallucinates parts of solutions, like writing podman quadlets. It also couldn't figure out what a dummy interface is and instead spent half an hour going back and forth trying to figure out networking with rootless quadlets.Right now, I have it SSH into a user account w/o root/sudo access and tell me what I fucked up on my servers.
>>109468908The same reason that a Human using a calculator can solve much bigger problems than a Human who crunches numbers in their head.ASI = larger context window, more memory, more advance calculations, better knowledge and better predictions. Just as how OpenAI proved that $2000 worth of tokens can solve solutions, in the future a single token will unlock everything we know about the universe.
>>109468954That isn't what ASI means.
>>109468954Will it figure out a way to reverse entropy?
>>109469012It will figure out anything.
