Why can’t US big AI compete on cost?
>>109462403because AI tech is being hold hostage by jews and their docile slave cattle
>>109462569fippybippy /thread
>>109462403Jews need more and the goyim, who exist to serve us, will be made to give more.
>>109462403because china is subsidizing electricity costs and having deepseek do minimum pricing because they want to put us AI companies out of business. It's not working.
>>109462403Because Chinese power is poor chinks on hamsterwheels
>>109462403the Chinese state-ran system is much more efficient than bloated private companies
>>109462403Shithropic deliberately scam metafags and amazonfags, also skill issues
>>109462403Chang doesn't have R&D costs to recoup.
>>109463403all USians have to do is build as much solar as China did, but that would break the commodity energy pricing model
>>109462403Because china is watering down US ai models? They don't even have to do the work. And now I get to reap the benefits. Thank you deepseek!
>>109462403the cattle must suffer
>>109462403They don't have to. Their models are way better so they can price them whatever they like.
>>109463752>>109464035As a consumer, why is this my problem and why should I care?
>>109464867>they don't have toIs that why they're begging the US Govt to ban them? lmao
>>109464874Try and think a few years into the future.
>>109464988As a consumer, why is this my problem and why should I care? Please remember I do not care about the livelihood of AI companies nor should I care.
>>109464874Its not a problem, I said it was good. I said "thank you". I am happy.
>>109464988I do not care, none of these companies can pretend to be patriotic when they've already stated that they view America as simply a means to an end of making a machine god. Why do I care if China steals their shit and sells it for less? As an American, this is objectively better for my country as a whole than it is to allow deranged psychopaths try to steal my land, electricity, oil, water in order to power their megalomaniac dreams of an AI slave state. This is, in fact, the market working as intended.
>>109462403china shares its gpus with the people
>>109465188This
>>109465188The same logic is why you thought it was a good idea to offshore all of your manufacturing to China.
Wait, how does China expect to make money from AI if all of their models are open source?
>>109462403CCP can actually tard-wrangling their companies while US is basically runs by Jews
>>109462403that's what you get for throwing unlimited money at your problems. it's gona be really hard to fix this shit now if at all possible.
>>109465559Making their models open-source harms American AI corporations because any company can just self-host a Chinese model if they're dealing with sensitive/private data, which is cheaper than paying an American corporation.On the other hand, it doesn't harm the income of Chinese AI companies, because China's dirt cheap energy costs (and soon, domestic inference chips) keep their API costs highly competitive and you literally cannot run inference cheaper than them even if the model and hardware is free.
>>109466125>can just self-host a Chinese model if they're dealing with sensitive/private dataHow do they know it isn't trained to insert backdoors into any code it produces?
>>109463403Its a 284B model with 13B active. It runs at the speed of consumer 8GB vram GPU once quantized for the active parameters. The trick then is to load the quantized 284B models. Either load it into system memory with ~100GB of ram or if you're deploying at scale, run it from raid configured SSDs instead of system ram. Thats where you get the speed/cost benefits
>muh joows>le goyim>china is subsidizing electricity costs (wrong)>it's state run (wrong)>muh cattle>muh joos>because chinese electricty costs (wrong)Why is /g/ such a retarded shithole?
>>109466163If you aren’t reviewing the LLM’s changes, that’s on you
>>109465315I didn't think it was a good idea, THESE ARE THE SAME COMPANIES THAT DID THAT>Microsoft>Meta>AmazonThe AI companies are the same companies that off-shored our manufacturing and labor. So if they suffer now that their greatest allies are betraying them, let them eat cake.
>>109466236>Why is /g/ such a retarded shithole?Genuine goyim board full of shitheads who think the AI companies are their "friends" like this walking turd >>109464035
>>109467340You're talking to rahjeesh who is paid by FAGMAN shitlib to defend mastsaaar with life and limb.
>>109462403americans have lower intelligence than chinese people. simple.
>>109467347he's right though
US can't even compete with literal third world shitholes.
