I take back everything I said in the last thread.

I repeat everything that guy said.

>>109463224
An actual audio company made this image
https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/eur/en/blog/what-is-high-resolution-audio

>>109463205
>So you need connections more than anything else
Not really. You probably can look up most of it. Like they will scan your HRTF without any connections simply because they always want more data for research. If anything subjects usually are getting paid to be there.
>Have you?
I have nothing that can properly scan HRTF nowhere near me and I'm too lazy to do an actual long af HRTF trip lol

/iemg/ Dogma Check
Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is not your priest.
Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.

>Harman and JM-1 ≠ perfect.
It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.

>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.
Great value, yes. Immune to QC issues and hype cycles? Nope.

>Graphs are not sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.

>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.

>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.
Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.

>Loud posts =/= smart takes.
Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.


This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.

>>109463273
and there's no audible difference between them

>>109463299
Interesting, I'll have a look then.

it's been a while I didn't come here, any new IEM on the market?

>>109463508
I mean technically yes. But something you'd want to really pay attention to? Not really.
Maybe crinear reference for "the flattest IEM" memes

>>109463508
Bunny G and Chu III are coming soon for that fresh recycling

>>109463529
if it measures flat, how would it be a meme?

>>109463607
Are you legitimately asking?

>>109463620
I should have clarified: I don't want to hear anything about variance in HRTFs or insertion depths.
I'm talking about, in the strictest terms, a measured result.

>>109463701
you can't not talk about HRTF relative to its measurements tho.
Is it flat on 5128? is it flat on 711? is it flat to JM-1 target?
It's flatness is relative to a target you're compensating it to

>>109463733
>is it flat to JM-1 target?
how would you "measure to a target"?
I'm talking about making the measurement, and the sine sweep shows flatness, no matter the "target" you have behind it to show relative deviations from it. let's just assume there is no target and we are looking at a measurement and the result is a flat result.

>>109463764
What do you think "making a measurement" is?
What are you measuring with? Your ass?
>and the sine sweep shows flatness
Then it's awfully tuned IEM lmao.
>no matter the "target" you have behind it to show relative deviations from it.
it literally the only thing that matters
>let's just assume there is no target and we are looking at a measurement and the result is a flat result
that's not a thing because measurements are taken with ear simulators
you want IEM to sound mostly flat not measure strictly flat.

>>109463870
>What do you think "making a measurement" is?
I'm talking about putting a sine sweep through an IEM and recording the FR.
>What are you measuring with? Your ass?
any measurement device that can be relied on for measuring FR.

anyway I don't need to go through this with you, you're an uptight fucking tard and aren't offering anything.
blah blah I accept your concession, yeah yeah yeah.
I was only asking what made "the flattest IEM" a meme and you followed up with pure avoidance.

either answer what makes it a meme or shut your fucking bitch ass the fuck up

>>109463968
what are you on about?
>you immediately decided to ran the fuck away.
I'm right here fucker. what are you on about?
>Okay I will spell it out for you. It's a meme because it is not the flattest IEM. It doesn't measure flat either. And it will not sound flat inside your ears.
that's all I asked for: your explanation. but it took you bleeding out of your pussy and sperging out to get to that part. lol you're so warped.
you are so embarrassing

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>>109464006
>that's all I asked for
I mean don't you like immediately understand? "if it measures flat" is already a loaded question.
It measures mostly flat against JM-1 with -1 dB tilt and with standard eartips. Does it make it the flattest IEM? It's a meme
>lol you're so warped. you are so embarrassing
cope

>>109464045
I accept your concession.

>>109464057
what concession

>>109464130
the one you handed to me on a silver platter, of course

>>109464343
I didn't give you any concessions you are hallucinating

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>digital EQ destroys data
I believe it.

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imaging, spatiality and separation is actually bretty gud, presents plenty of detail. the 8D effect in 推定スウィーティ is great.

You guys know there is no point in going above 44.1kHz unless you're producing and editting audio, right?
Same thing goes for in-ear monitors.

>>109464728
yeah we do

>>109464727
fuuuuuck no, I returned those shits for EA500LM. no regrets whatsoever and techs up the wazoo

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and again, new general because yesterdays one was torpedoed by endless arguments about EQ. headpos general never stood a chance against AI generated image dumps for coomers. IEMg will survive thanks to EQ and few retards

what makes good retro gaming earbud?

>>109463273
shouldn't an audio company at least own a scope?
cause no digital audio output looks like this

>>109465177
>what makes good retro gaming earbud?
EA500LM

>>109465177
he is shilling venture electronics flathead kek.

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>>109465050
eh. it's just a left right left right stereo pan on the ea500lm. it has a better "circles around your head" effect on the xuan nv.

Anyone bought a new vehicle recently? No aux, no possible way to install a physical audio input. Basically you have to use bluetooth or plug your phone into the headunit (which downloads your messages/contacts etc)

reminder that vague and nebulous stuff isn't real and no one can hear and appreciate anything (real) that i can't. thanks

>>109465280
So what

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>>109465280
Pic related confuses and angers the zoomer

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>>109465233
nah. xuan nv was congested and had way too smooth treble. I returned it because it was shitty and EA500LM was night and day difference. Xuan NV techs are shit

>>109465342
>fosi audio ds2 and bulb for cleaning yourself before anal
why are u gay?

>>109465360
>bulb for cleaning
just a dust blower for my camera and turntable. is that gay?

>>109465318
bluetooth audio sucks, connecting your personal phone to a spy machine with cell phone sucks

>>109465233
>>109465342
wow it's almost as if techs aren't real and both of you are just confusing FR differences driven by your anatomy with some ambiguous "techs"
arguing which one has better techs is retarded because clearly one is better for one person and other for another...

>>109465401
It's just a car

>>109465437
you haven't heard either, fuck off. it's a night and day difference.

>>109465437
techs is just straw grasping cope for people not agreeing to your opinion.

>>109465437
you just made an argument for tuning a $5 shitbud to something like Storm and matching techs, ignoramus

>poor people explaining their poverty
bros

>>109465483
for you clearly but for other guy it's the other way around. You both are basically proving my point with your dumb argument lol thanks
>>109465504
it's "tune a $5 shitbud to perfection" and not something retarded like "tune a $5 shitbud to storm"

>>109465280
Surely you have a data enabled usb-c port somewhere at the front then the head unit reads usb device

dont talk about ambiguous stuff guys it makes me uncomfortable

>>109465524
I owned the tangzu before my EA500LM. you're a fucktard

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i've been trying to eq this 2 dollar shitbud to listenable for a week and i've only gotten to tolerable so far.

audio is solved lets just relax. the rest of the world will realize it soon as well. two weeks

>>109465543
I don't see how it's relevant

>>109463273
appeal to authority

>>109465547
what's the problem exactly?

>>109465672
relevant because I discerned the difference easily. you haven't heard either of them.

>>109465724
but he did >>109465233
>I discerned the difference easily
nobody was arguing with that tho?

>>109465776
I accept your concession???

>>109464661
analog is not infinite resolution. there is a lower limit to how quiet a sound can get because electrons vibrate at rest:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson%E2%80%93Nyquist_noise
it is impossible/meaningless to discern differences in audio less than the threshold of this noise.
the dynamic range of 24 or 32 bit EQ is FAR greater than the dynamic range of the world we live in, which is quantized.

>>109465779
are you stupid?
your example simply proves techs aren't real
nobody is giving any concession

my friend hears 10x better techs from edc pro because he has different ears

better than storm i mean

>>109465801
what are you on about? EA500LM beats Xuan NV in techs and it's not even close.
you haven't heard either of them.

>>109465827
there are two of you
>>109465233
>>109465342
both of you heard both ea500la and xuan
one says techs are better on xuan
other that they are better on ea500la
>what are you on about
Isn't it pretty damn obvious what I am on about? me hearing them or not is irrelevant I'm not talking about myself

>>109465881
>Isn't it pretty damn obvious what I am on about?
not one bit?? could you explain?

>>109465893
if techs were something disconnected from FR and absolute both of you would be in agreement but you are not hens it is not the case.

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>>109463931
You still seem to think an IEM has some sort of "FR" independent from the measurement process. Because you don't know how neither measurements nor IEMs work. Why do you think we're using ear simulators at all? Why not just use a regular mic and measure them in free air? Because the ear changes the response of the IEM. Just give up, audio is not for you.

>>109465908
>>109465971
looks like techs won, obviously

>>109466000
There's one measurement that varies from listener to listener just like techs. Techs are FR.

>>109466000
your dumb ass managed to prove that techs do not exist with a couple of posts on 4chan lol and you didn't even get it
hilarious

>>109466007
>>109466040
>techs are FR
biggest cope in the world. stop hallucinating

>>109466066
explain this conundrum you found yourself in then

>>109465827
>>109465893
Your ass pain just completely edited this >>109465233 post out of your memory. Let me remind you. Hope this helps.

>>109466094
>>109466117
I did what?
It seems like you want the other anon's impressions to be more closer to reality than mine or something. Sounds like cope.

>>109466164
Imagine being this dense
>It seems like you want the other anon's impressions to be more closer to reality than mine or something
no it doesn't seem like it because that's not the point at all
what's your IQ? like 60? my condolences

>>109466174
>no it doesn't seem like it because that's not the point at all.
what is the point, then?

It's always the EQ and FR people starting some bullshit itt

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i'm really lucky to have ears that make edc pro give me the best techs possible

>>109466179
The point is the existence of the other anon with opposite conclusions from you proves techs are not an immutable property of an IEM.

>>109466179
it was already spoonfed to you multiple times
>>109465908
it doesn't matter which one of you is "closer to reality" as you put it.

>I prefer a cheap 1DD over expensive BA pos but other people that do this are deaf >>109460738
I'm afraid this is legitimately a 60IQ problem.

Why do concerts always use big DD speakers and not planars or electrostats? Maybe it has to do something with techs after all.

>>109464661
It reduces dynamic range, yes. But if you play 16 and 24 bit files and do your EQ as 32 bit, it only destroys some of the meaningless dynamic range with no data in it that it added in converting to 32 bit.

>>109466197
huh. that is interesting.
>>109466206
>it was already spoonfed to you multiple times
was it?

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>>109465796
Another reminder that the signal below the noise floor is NOT lost. The dither encodes signals smaller than 1 bit. That's literally what makes DSD possible. And radios work with signals below the noise floor all the time.

audio is solved but so many people aren't taking advantage which is sad. don't be shy. let your hair out and eq to fugaku type sound or something. i've eq'ed my shitbuds to just about any iem that can make sound at one time or another. if youve got a few dollars you got infinite sq available. i'm retreating to my listening chair (it's a wooden stool) with my shitbuds now and wont be replying

>>109466257
if I was that anon that couldn't hear techs in their upgraded gear, I would be emotionally wrecked about it too if others could.

>>109466385
The anon that couldn't hear techs in xuan nv? A real mess that one.

>>109466355
EQing to other IEMs is rookie tier. Any physically existing IEM is suboptimal.

>>109466414
no, dumbass. the anon directly mentioned in the post.

>>109466427
Yeah, the one that thinks ea500lm has more techs than xuan nv. Just sad really.

>>109463322
>>109465189
>>109465675
Posers haven't even noticed that mp3 is not 16 bit. No better than audiofools.

>>109466432
no, dumbass, you're so lost. but let's move on from your mix-up anyway.
p.s. I accept your concession

>>109466449
What are you talking about? What is mixed up?

>>109466454
Thought we were moving on? You seem to be stuck and I can't help you out of the hole you dug yourself into

>>109466478
>Thought we were moving on?
Who said that?

>>109466482
Oh, you don't know?

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you see, when I get ea500lm after xuan nv, that's an upgrade, but when somebody buys a 1DD after variations, he clearly just can't hear the techs. and when somebody with both ea500lm and xuan nv says xuan nv is better I just short-circuit. please be patient with me.

>>109466509
Patience is key, anon

>>109466442
It typically uncompresses to 16 bit PCM audio, regardless what data format the compressed data uses.

so just like that techs irreversibly lost huh

EPZ store finally shipped out my custom G10's, im so excited

>>109466904
vial full of blue semen edition?

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>>109466962
no sadly

>>109466979
Bro bought a diddy blud IEM.

>>109466979
who is that pedo?

>>109467088
ForsenCD

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So you be sayin' if I listen to a kilobuck IEM, like an actual good one, not some meme boutique brand one that is a scam, after listening to $20 pos for years, I won't hear the upgraded techs?

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>>109463224
Please recommend me a good pair of Earbuds/IEMs (but preferably IEMs if possible) on a budget for an MP3 DAC, for music in loud environments where I want to block the sound...No I do not have any gear right now I'm still looking, haven't decided on the MP3/DAC I want yet.

>>109467133
Don't get IEMs their a meme 9/10 unless you buy a pair over $300. So just stick with apple earbuds.

>>109467133
Tangzu waner has above average isolation. Truthear pure has more if you can afford it.
>MP3 DAC
You mean DAP? Echo nano. If you actually meant DAC then anything from OP.

>>109467173
This

>>109467113
no that's not what we are saying

>>109467173
>>109467209
literal misinformation
shameful display

>>109467133
Any budget iem with double flange tips followed by foam tips for maximum isolation. Tips more important to block the sound than the iem. Stick the double flange in there and you can't hear a car coming at you. Suggest Chu 2, Wan'er, etc just pick any in the $20 range.

>>109464727
How's passive isolation on those things? Is it good, or typical all-DD semi-open shit with a lot of leak?

>>109463224
That image is not even remotely true, they will all look smooth on an actual scope.

>>109465512
You may be rich but you are deaf.

>>109467133
Hexa, Pure or Explorer if you want more of a classic form factor IEM
ER2XR if you want extremely goated isolation and are comfortable with very deep insertion

my timeless 7hz 1's are finally dying.. another pair or anyone recommend an upgrade?

>>109463224
It really infuriates me seeing people talking about getting flac/lossless files (to listen to, not to convert to their prefered format), gay ass world

EP321 MEMS just came and holy shit guys. Techs are real, this is probably best treble I ever heard, so much details and textures that I never heard. Vocals are but thin and farther that I would like. But fuck me, with right music it's just on another level. I had DUNU Dk3001BD for a moment that thing smokes it for that kind of bright sound signature, dunu had planar driver but never gave me that kind of wow impressions, maybe driver type is important because I never had such texture rich treble with planar tweeters or planar drivers in full size headphones. Even soundstage is bigger than I ever heard with iems, more like from full size open backs.

Build quality is pretty meh, plastic cable, visible layer lines, visible bubbles in glue, faceplates are pretty tho.

>>109467807
what do you suggest as an alternative? let's assume that a PMP has a big-ass SD card inserted and there's no harm putting FLACs in there, which is actually the most common scenario

>>109467868
Unless it's performative type shit like echo nano or innoasis y1 there is no reason to use something less than flacs. SD cards are expensive tho but even 256gb should be fine for big flac library.

>>109467113
>I won't hear the upgraded techs?
the only difference you will hear is in the FR, which can be EQ'd anyway.

buying new iems is basicaly paying for a new EQ profile.

>>109468442
Not true, you're paying for faceplate and comfort, these are actually techs

>>109466421
of course but it's nice to know what everyone else is referencing. i now know that hex and storm sound like shit but that's what retards are paying for kek

dont forget that something is only real to the degree it can be categorized and measured and agreed upon externally. so its best to compress and collapse any vague and nebulous stuff

it should FIT cleanly somewhere or GO AWAY

for example when i do drugs i know it's just chemical interactions. people say i'm no fun but they cant even operationally define fun

Replaced voicemeeter with asio link pro to turn my motu m4 into a 4 channel DAC(by default it shows up as two 2 channel DACs). Turns out the only reason why voicemeeter needed high latency to be stable and blocked changing the system volume was because it's code is shit. Asio link just works.

>>109468568
>you're paying for faceplate and comfort
true, but i was only talking in terms of sound quality.

buy for looks and comfort, "techs" are a meme.

>>109468606
truthear hexa and pure are good, not out of the box but their curve is smooth and easy to eq.

>>109468907
OOTB they're good, too

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what the circled thing is and what does it do, please?

>>109469019
Dongle DAC/AMP. It's meme because he is using it instead of DACamp inside music player

>>109469090
ok thanks

>>109469090
why is it a meme? dongles cant play music

>anon can't hear R2R techs

>>109469178
I think because he is using it with DAP so functionality is doubled between them and dongles are used with smartphones or tablets, for DAP u don't really need it because it already has pretty nice dongle build inside it

looks like techs make shitheads seethe every single time when "it's FR" is their only cope

>>109469914
so techs win? techs win

>>109469640
>>109469914
Take your time, you'll figure it out eventually.

>>109469929
you're all alone in your particular worldview.
not being able to notice the difference in stereo imaging is a pretty serious matter. I hope you're faking this illness and are just trolling

>>109469967
Yeah, not noticing xuan nv is better than 500lm is pretty fucked up. Would hate to be that guy.

>>109469975
that's cute, but you never heard any of those two, so you have no basis of real contention.
go ahead and confess, you're a troll. it's your constant offense as you have nothing else when it comes to logic.

>>109469996
huh, that's interesting. I accept your concession though.

>>109470026
not handing you one. you're coping and itching to argue because that's how you spend your free time. real men are above that and there's not enough OTC test you could take to ever come to that understanding.
probably should get checked for radiation poisoning too

>>109470044
what?

>>109470053
who?

>>109470197
Balls

>>109470246
Hell yeah, I'm down with that.

>>109469419
Most PMP hardware is ass so unfortunately it's not a complete meme.

>>109465504
$5 shitbuds are better even without EQ.

>>109472331
show one.

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>>109472414

>>109472442
>109472442
what about that POS is better?

>>109472442
is this a knockoff product

>>109468606
eh strom has more or less competent tuning until its gigantic 7-8k dip... but with average length mode being around 7k this dip will be filled for a lot of people so it'll sound like a bassy new meta tuning
Something like daybreak should be just as good (after you fix length modes)

>>109469967
>not being able to notice the difference in stereo imaging is a pretty serious matter.
that's the problem tho. he does notice the difference...

>>109472665
gotcha

>>109468966
hexa are a bit too sibilant and pure a bit too muddy imo but both are fine.
anyway it's a personal taste

I think the fact that his dumb argument about 500LM having better techs proved that techs are FR mindbroke him...

>>109472978
Goes to bed mad. Wakes up mad. All according to keikaku.

>>109472978
>>109472994
>samefag saying a whole lot of nothing.
>proved that techs are FR
you absolutely have 0 actual argument because you haven't heard either IEM even once in your life.
damn you're a drama queen

graphs are misleading past 2k due to individual anatomy and length mode resonances :O

Fuck you, thread. Etymotic are utter shit. Absolute garbage. I'm going back to headphones.

>>109473133
Hearing them will not change anything tho? It can basically only go 4 ways -
>xuan having better techs
>500lm having better techs
>both having same techs
>both having no techs
3/4 of them will basically support the current conclusion that techs aren't real and 1/4 can't change anything because you can't prove that techs exist by only finding people who hear better techs with 500LM. But one person who doesn't is enough to disprove techs.
Better explain why you hear better techs with 500LM while your opponent hears better techs with xuan without trying to undermine his personal experience he has no reason to lie about.
It's really simple - fact that you can't agree about techs proves techs are not real and just FR. There's literally no way around it.

>>109473337
how the fuck is this our fault???
also what's wrong with them?

>>109473310
they are also misleading before 2k for the same reasons

>>109473378
>how the fuck is this our fault???
Shilling this shit day and night

>>109473378
>also what's wrong with them?
bland, flat, completely lacking separation and detail
as soon as more than 2 instruments start playing, the sound collapses

>>109473421
>Shilling this shit day and night
Mf no one did that after the year 2022

>>109473421
>Shilling this shit day and night
the fuck are you on about? literally nobody is shilling fucking etymotics here... literally the usual advice is to start with some good $20 pos like gate or bunny or whatever
>bland, flat, completely lacking separation and detail
>as soon as more than 2 instruments start playing, the sound collapses
you sure you got a good seal with them and pushed them deep enough?
what does "flat" mean in this case? also which etymotic? they all have different tuning

>>109473337
>I'm going back to headphones
which ones?

>>109473367
>There's literally no way around it
You sure about that?

>>109473498
Did chatGPT tell you to deflect this way or you are this stupid by yourself?

>>109473543
you're being childlike for no reason, maybe I could quell your insecurities about all this..
point me to what you think chatgpt told me.

>oh no, he's not arguing the way I want him to. must be chatgpt.

>>109473677
you lack comprehension.
>point me to what you think chatgpt told me
literally how can you say this if you have an actual human brain inside your head?
>>109473687
heh you are mad
where's the argument? you decided to start ignoring your own fuck up because you simply can not win. You can't say anything. You can only shit out dumbfuck deflection now.

just fyi I know what you are doing. You've been cowardly reporting my posts for the last several days hoping one of them will get me banned. pathetic little creature.
techs lost this hard btw.

>>109473871
>You can only shit out dumbfuck deflection now
heh you are mad
>You can't say anything.
you lack comprehension
>ou decided to start ignoring your own fuck up because you simply can not win.
>win.
seems like you just wanna get into a spat because you have this narcissistic need to appear like you know what you're talking about and nobody else knows shit (except for when their opinion aligns perfectly with yours). all credibility goes out the window as soon as your pussy starts to bleed and you turn to personal attacks, as if you have a real beef. you don't. you're just warped.
>literally how can you say this if you have an actual human brain inside your head?
childlike pissy nonsense is all you spew when you are in disagreement. grow a pair of balls.

>>109473901
>You've been cowardly reporting my posts
holy shit you really are shizo if you really think that.

>>109473902
>heh you are mad
why would I be mad tho? you literally giga lost the argument while trying to shill your shitty ass 500LM
>childlike pissy nonsense is all you spew when you are in disagreement. grow a pair of balls.
notice how you decided to ignore the argument again? because what can you possible say? "he's just deaf lol lmao"?
address it

>>109473976
not catering to every line of your nonsense isn't deflecting. nobody is obligated to have to fight with you because you are in your feels.
no wonder you get your own posts deleted- they're all full of rage and picking fights, personal attacks. you are not a stable person.
don't let me forget, narcissist and megalomaniac.

>>109473976
>you literally giga lost the argument while trying to shill your shitty ass 500LM
the opposite could easily be said to him. "you literally giga lost the argument while trying to shill your shitty ass Xuan NV.
except, to you, only the side you agree with is the only "right" take.
you are fucked up for defending AND fighting against subjective experience at the very same time.
go take a midol

>>109473987
bro it took like 10 posts to make you comprehend the actual argument. And the moment you understood you fully broke down.
>not catering to every line of your nonsense isn't deflecting. nobody is obligated to have to fight with you because you are in your feels.
it is deflecting. You failed to address the problem. And is failing to do so again.
Yet you want to continue arguing FOR techs.
>personal attacks
oh really? let's see just how mad you were
>>109465483
can be considered a personal attack
>>109465543
same also you start to get very mad at that point
Then THIS many posts were needed for you to finally get the point
>109465724
>109465779
>109465827
>109465893
>109466000
>109466066
>109466164
>109466179
and that was basically your final answer lmao
>>109466318
"that is interesting"

>>109474002
>the opposite could easily be said to him. "you literally giga lost the argument while trying to shill your shitty ass Xuan NV.
That's wrong. It literally doesn't matter if 500LM or xuan have better techs... That's not the argument. You lost the moment a person who heard both and came to the opposite conclusions appeared.
>except, to you, only the side you agree with is the only "right" take.
Only right take is that techs do not exist
>you are fucked up for defending AND fighting against subjective experience at the very same time.
Now you are just making shit up

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>>109474075
you are in this mode 24/7. I only got thru a quarter of the last thread, but this puts it into perspective that /iemg/ needs to see.
/iemg/ is not your arena for larping as knowledgeable when all you do is this.
>>109474075
>you fully broke down.
projection.
>oh really? let's see just how mad you were
pic related- it's always you.
>can be considered a personal attack
pic related- you lack awareness to ever be normal and not act like an angry child.
>same also you start to get very mad at that point
Then THIS many posts were needed for you to finally get the point.
you're the only one that gets mad here because you patronize the place and push everyone away as if you're king of the hill.
how fuckin interesting..

If anything stance that absolute driver quality exists and influences techs IS anti subjective experience by default

>>109474109
>Only right take is that techs do not exist
you only say this because you cannot perceive them. that is simply a you problem, simple as.
>Now you are just making shit up
that's literally you.

>>109474139
>pic related- it's always you.
only like 1 post on there is mine btw
which makes this even funnier
>projection
I mean I literally demonstrated it with your own posts. FULL breakdown
You might've noticed how patiently I was answering you despite you being mad and throwing out personal attacks immediately.

>>109474156
>you only say this because you cannot perceive them
now you are fighting against subjective experience. So are you for it or against it? Why are you starting doing personal attacks again? i'm not even IN this conversation. My argument uses your and other anon's subjective experiences. And the only conclusion is that techs aren't real. My personal opinion about these specific IEMs is irrelevant why bring it up again and again?
>that is simply a you problem, simple as
Clearly other anon CAN perceive them... but with another IEM.
>that's literally you.
you lost

>>109474174
are you done? because endlessly arguing still isn't helping you. it's time to get back to *talking* about IEMS- not you sitting there itching for constant and needless bitching, moaning, arguing.
give me your concession and we can move on to talking about what this general is about.
because this general isn't all about you. move on.

>>109474188
Personal attacks again.
How about you'll try to engage with the argument for once?

>>109474188
>it's time to get back to *talking* about IEMS
the moment one guy started to talk about IEMs you started shitting on him and shilling 500LM lmao
grow up

>>109474207
>How about you'll try to engage with the argument for once?
because you turn to
>Personal attacks again.
and no anon ever is obligated to entertain your need to fight. you attack rather than converse.
>>109474214
>grow up
oh noes, personal attacks. you're clearly hung up and now /iemg/ has a better perspective of the actual severity of it. moments like this. wage war somewhere else, please.

>>109474225
>because you turn to
wrong? I literally quoted and linked your every post. You started with personal attacks. I just presented the argument that your opposite experiences clearly demonstrate why techs are just FR. And it made you REAL mad. Why are you projecting?

>>109465050
>>109465342
Imagine thinking this is actually a proper why to conduct a discussion

>>109474284
goddamn, you are relentless. I'm not mad in the slightest, I'm just here to show /iemg/ that 100% of the time, it's just you picking fights, getting actually mad, pushing everyone away.
you are the sole problem causer here because this general is, for some reason, your solace.
time to move on.

>>109474292
>a proper why to conduct a discussion
you have absolutely 0 clue what that is like.
all the proof we need is here >>109474139

Looking for some IEMs with cables long enough out of the box to use with my PC. I tried to get some but the cable was not long enough and I didn't really like the sound either.
I cannot use my regular headphones (DT 770 pro) for long periods of time anymore because of health reasons, so I need something to replace them that sounds about the same or similar as I'm more or less used to the way they sound.

Budget is 200-300USD

Non-chink if possible (I know this is a big ask)

>>109474302
me? or is it your butthurt about techs because every time you try to shill some snake oil you get called out?

In the year of our lord 2026, there is still no better player than the HiBy M300?
FUckin hell

>>109474322
>Budget is 200-300USD
>Non-chink if possible
Look into Sennheisers

>>109463224
kek, this is the funniest image I've seen here

>>109474322
>I tried to get some
which ones
I dunno if there are actually IEMs with long cables but you can find longer cables or good extensions (like 1-1.5m openheart ones)
>so I need something to replace them that sounds about the same or similar
you mean by that decent bass but bright as fuck or you don't hear the mas bright?
>Non-chink if possible
Not with any kind of reasonable tuning

>>109474404
>Not with any kind of reasonable tuning
non-issue when EQ exists

>>109474446
might as well just buy any $20 POS then

>>109474460
if you want to be limited in techs, sure.

>>109474817
techs aren't real

>>109474840
wrong

>>109474871
it's been literally proven that techs = FR

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i put glue on these things but they still keep falling off. now i understand why penises look the way they do. be grateful that your iem nozzles have notches

>>109475979
321 mems?

>>109475979
glue???
try to wrap a sewing thread or something like that around the stem of an eartip before putting it on.. might help

>>109475979
My CRAs do this. I pull them out of my ear and the eartips stay in my ears

>>109476021
these costed $320 in 2021 so im open to any suggestions

>>109475979
>>109476751
You get what you pay for. Take the tips off the IEM, tie a thread around the stem tightly, but them back on the IEM. That should increase the friction significantly. Upgrade to $20 IEMs when you're ready.

>>109473438
>Mf no one did that after the year 2022
look at the FP

>>109473451
>literally nobody is shilling fucking etymotics
look at the FP

>>109473451
>you sure you got a good seal with them and pushed them deep enough?
yep, tried all sizes of caps, pushed them far enough to make me cough

>gives a rec
>"wahhh wahhh stop shilling"

>>109477056
>look at the FP
that's not shilling, dumbass

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Techs are exquisite sisters

>>109477472
will you be upgrading the cable for better techs?

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>>109477490
boy

>>109473367
>Better explain why you hear
This AI doesn't hear or see anything.

>>109469019
does this thing do something or it is just here for nothing?

>>109478629
the DAP stores and plays or streams music, through the dongle. the DAP can also do this, but the person may prefer the sound out of the dongle, or maybe theres hiss out of the DAP or something.
it's a meme any way you look at it though if you think everything sounds the same and owning anything worth more than 20-30 dollars is pointless

>>109478754
I see thks vm

EQ reduces the Dynamic Range. Avoid.

>>109479689
not at 32bit float

>>109479689
>using 8bit audio

>>109474404
I havent had enough pairs of headphones to really internalize what bright or warm mean. I really only buy one pair and keep it for like 6-7 years until it breaks and then I get a new one.

I bought Linsoul SIMGOT EM6L and I didn't like how "distant" it sounded compared to my headphones and the cord was way too short so I returned them

>>109479692
when are you listening at 32-bit float?

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>>109480282
Now.

>>109480282
Retard.

>>109480303
for what? you have 32-bit audio?
>>109480515
you could have said that in your previous post. or not at all since I'm simply asking a question

>>109480529
>for what?
For EQ.

>>109480558
for that simple and short an answer, you didn't have to make a new post just to call names. makes you look bad.

>>109480610
Not my problem.

>>109480623
no it is a you problem because you're the one that does it.
please refrain from being a twat all the time

>>109480629
Nobody asked.

>>109480649
keep it up. /iemg/ lore just adds up to you being a goblin shooing everyone away.

>>109480662
Cool.

>>109480667
Wonderful

>>109480529
It's exactly because you don't listen at 32-bit that you can use 32-bit processing losslessly. It just scales down to preserve the full resolution of your 24- or 16-bit audio streams when you EQ or otherwise adjust the volume in software, or in case of dongles, firmware.
Here's your answer.

>gets asked an easy question
>immediately turns it into an attack
not normal behavior for a /g/ thread. /x/ is right down the hall

>>109480687
oh thanks. could have saved us time and headache and just said this from the beginning.
very much appreciated..

Careful guys, a couple more lessons like that and he'll understand that panning works by changing the relative volume of channels, not by moving balls across the stereo field.

>>109480722
Nobody asked.

youtube audio is so bad I have a EQ profile specifically to not grate my ears when watching headpos show videos.

>>109480722
>panning works
>by moving balls across the stereo field.
got it?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/b_bQLkXblBE

>oh I cut your IEM?
>haha get pranked bro here's the new airpods :)

>>109463224
Is this image not misleading? I thought 44kHz reforms it back into a perfect wave and that low resolution is just data points for it to work off of.

Are Galaxy Buds 3 worth the money?

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>>109463224
"Air Conducting" earbuds are just small speakers directed at your ear canal. I really hope you didn't fall for the marketing term.

>>109481471
no
next question

>>109481698
For under $100 what would be a pair of good wireless non in the ear earbuds that I could use for work (and general computer usage), preferably neutral range. My current pair is an old pair of airpods, but their battery life isn't great and I'd prefer something that could last an entire 8 hour work day.

Where do i get good cables? Every iem set i look at has a dinky 4ft cable i need like 60in or more

>>109480741
do you set the volume slider to max and your output to 48khz?

>>109481868
XINHS on aliexpress will customize whatever you want or just buy an extension

>>109481411
yes it's bait

>>109481898
What are some good extension brands then since all of the replacement cables seem to be 1.25m

>>109480303
Windows “default format” dropdown showing “32 bit, 48000 Hz” is always 32-bit integer PCM. True 32-bit float output requires a program to request IEEE float (usually WASAPI exclusive mode), and even then most DACs just convert it back to 24-bit integer anyway.
Truth is, none of your media is 32-bit. Simple as.

>>109481964
Why would I want 32 bit media. More bits are for the EQ.

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>>109463224
Hello anons, I'm looking for a pair of IEMs that are wireless that won't kill the sound quality (because wired is supposed to be superior), so does anyone know a good pair? Money isn't really an issue but under $50 would be good.
Either that or a good single IEM so I can listen to music but not be fully distracted.

>>109481967
Right, more bits are useful in the processing chain for headroom when EQing.
But that’s not what the original question was asking.
You posted a screenshot of your Windows shared mode setting as proof you were listening at 32-bit float. That setting isn’t float and final playback doesn’t need it.

>>109481997
More bits solve the original original problem either way, float or not.

>>109482037
You're pivoting and dodging. float is not interchangeable with “more bits.” The original question was about listening in float, which your windows setting isn’t doing.

>>109482057
The original original problem was about EQ being destructive. 32 bit float solves this, but so does 64 bit float and 32 bit int. Float isn't the important part here.

>>109482075
>The original original problem was about EQ being destructive.
my original question was about listening in 32-bit float, but none of that changes the fact that Windows shared-mode setting isn’t float. I wasn't part of the "EQ is destructive" debacle.

>>109482114
Fine, I'm not listening 32 bit float currently. Since you're not part of the discussion I have nothing else to say to you.

>>109482147
Good. I accept your concession.

>>109481990
Distracted by what? Outside noises?

>>109481493
What's wrong with small speakers directed at your ear canal? If it weren't wireless I'd check it out.

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can you stupid faggots merge already?

>>109482416
No.

>>109482289
Yes, but mostly when working so I can't have both buds in at the same time...Also wireless give me a headache after a while because I have a RARE condition that makes me sensitive to wireless radiowaves, so if possible a good pair of wired single IEMs would be good if they exist.

>>109482434
With IEMs where the wire goes over the ear you can leave one earpiece hanging without plugging it in. See the replies to >>109467133 for well isolating options. Etymotics have the best isolation but the fit is not for everyone.

>>109482490
>anon you don't get it he has to buy a specific single earpiece or his coworkers will hear his HENTAI blasting

>>109482416
When all the ai slopper generals merge

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>>109482308
no bass.

>>109482416
I don't wanna catch the baldness from them.

>>109482794
just keep your HRT, and high DHT won't be an issue

>>109463224
Just bought these "Moondrop Lan", What do you guys think? are these any good. (Not my pic) I just bought it because i thought the anime girl looked kinda cute.

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>KZ Waifu
what's your excuse now?

>>109482909
Spent all my money on moondrops.

>>109482909
Nice, now put it on the faceplate.
>>109482879
Also good. Comfortable and without meme drivers.

>>109482909
>that cheap plastic bike reflector faceplate

>>109482490
Thanks anon I'll check that out, its within my budget too. I appreciate it man, thank you!
>>109482506
Nah lul, I just don't want people to hear a bunch of cussing because my music has that sometimes (or yelling).

>>109482909
Not enough bass.

>>109482909
>>109483348
Also KZ is too simplified compared to other sound profiles...But MEH, maybe thats just me.

>>109480058
>I bought Linsoul SIMGOT EM6L and I didn't like how "distant" it sounded compared to my headphones and the cord was way too short so I returned them
That's rather vague but at least something. EM6L has more classic "harman ie 2019" tuning so it's a bit lean and rather bright... So maybe something like crinear daybreak. It has less treble and a decent mount of bass. btw while it is made in china crinear itself is not a chinese company. Also he's pretty strict about quality control so channel matching is better than usual and unit variation is on a lower side.
It would be much better if you could listen to a bunch of IEMs before buying because otherwise it's pretty much a lottery

does a company offers customised IEM?

>>109483465
Yes, a company offers customised IEM.

>>109483353
>simplified
>glossing over the KZ iems with onboard adjustable tuning switches.
even if that's not enough for you, EQ still exists. it could be just you, desu

Should I get Top Pro or Tea Pro SE?

>>109483817
What do you have currently?