>discontinuedwhat went wrong?
Too expensive.
No use case.
>>109464677their target audience of disgusting dysgenic amerimutt mystery meat swarthoids didn't buy it
People don't want shit they have to strap to their head. People are self conscious about wearing glasses with a camera on them in public. They are afraid of being perceived as weird. I can't say I blame them. AR has lots of utility though, consider games like Pokemon Go and how successful they were. I think there will be more things like that. More applications of phone-driven AR will come about. But Apple vision failed for many reasons:1) It's a walled garden. No developers = no product = no users.2) It was prohibitively expensive, even for middle class Americans. It really was.3) It was not ergonomic. Again, heavy shit strapped to your face is a hard sell.
chicken and the egg problem of contenteither you make it cheap and it sucksot you make it expensive and only corporate drones buy
>>109464677I think your image sums it up pretty clearly. I would never buy a product shilled to me by that.
>>109464677Nignogs have public space self awareness and do not hang at the house long enough for VR.Whoever pitched that idea and that commercial piece needs to be hanged by the balls.
>>109464677>>discontinuedyou made me lookgood waste of a thread, OP
>>109464677Did they ever release a human version?
>>109464770they shelved vision pro 2 and reduced the marketing for it by 95%its on its deathbed
>>109464832There is a second version of it?
>>109464687
>>109464832The M5 was the second revision of the AVP my manits the one they still sellright now
>>109464677So is the VR meme finally dead now?
>>109464677Overpriced, locked down platform, no games.
>>109464677who wants to put that shit on his face? this is so inconvenient you can't even drink tea at the same time.
>>109464677> NogglesWorst thing apple has ever made.
>>109464677Ain't no way people gonna pay $3700 for VR headset. Hell, even normal VR scene is basically dead now.
>>109464677>what went wrong?It was gay and retarded... actually what DID go wrong this sounds like a perfect iToddler product
Dead, huh? Weird that my group just bought another Gen 2 AVP then.
>>109464677This was too much faggotry even for apple standards
>>109464699I grew up playing Pokemon Emeraldc, Coliseum & XD Gale Of DarknessGet that gay fuckin shit outta my facePokemon Go is for goyslop Android surveilled slavesNiantic can eat donkey crap
the whole fake eyes and glass front was never going to make it any less awkward and adds a retarded amount of weight
>>109464677The only people who use VR are coomers and gaymers and Apple bizarrely decided to not cater to them
>>109465217No, gabe is about to bring it back with the Steam Frame
>>109464677it's probably more of a case where nothing really went right. it's just a huge nothingburger with retarded price tag.
>>109465760>my groupwhat did anon mean by thisas an M5 AVP owner there's not much reason to own oneyou can't really do much with it thanks to its shitty ecosystem barriersits also just terribly made for actual usage and will soon be completely obsoleted by lighter HMDs with all of the same capabilities more or less
>>109464677Thumbnail design
>>109464677One, too expensive.Two, VR isn't popular.
>>109464677old fad. new fad is "ai"
>>109466368with pervert glasses
>>109464682This, and the 3D experience is solo use. With a large 110" projection screen, 3D blu-rays, and 3D glasses, I can enjoy a 3D movie with company and not feel isolated or alone.Should have been a $1200 item at most.
>>109464697This is not incorrect.
porn in vr looks really good though
>>109464677I see a nigger in the ad, I don't buy, simple as
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>>109464677They never made IP rated for industry, left billions on the table.
>>109466797To expand on this-Apple already has all the technology needed to make the Welding helmet 20x better than anything 3M, ESAB or Miller could come up with.Imagine a welding helmet that can show you how flat a surface is, that can show you metal temps and guide welds, most of that can be accomplished with the cameras used for FaceID on the iPhone alone...Welding is something they can also charge their premiums on, no one is going to bat an eye at a $6000 helmet if does the above stuff, we already pay $2000-3000 for far less. 3M's biggest new 'advancement' is curved lenses and the ability to turn up and down shade via bluetooth. That's it.Apple could charge even charge $10k and it'd still move more units than Vision Pro.But Apple hates blue collar people, so they leave the money on the table.
>>109464677it was very clear from the beginning that their target market was niggers. the oroboem is niggers are poor and live in the hood, so even if a nigger could afford it, having something that expensive strapped to your face is nothing but a liability in the hood where it's prone to being stolen by other niggers. female "bitch niggas" are even dumber than thr males and might forget they bought the headset at all. I hate using this word, but what "content" in the vision pro would compel a black person to actually it?
>>109464677That video of the windows staying in place when the tube train started moving had me in stitches.It was a product looking for a market and it didn't find one ultimately.
Also I would just like to say that the criticism of google here is completely justified in my opinion
Was this ethical?
Google can also be very disorganized
>>109464677Too expensive, too heavy, extremely niche, mis-sold as a productivity device instead of an entertainment device. If it was around $12-1500, had a plastic or magnesium body and they embraced the games and home cinema aspect it might have had a chance.
>>109466170The group I belong to where I work.Agree with all your statements though. We treat it as a dev kit for future AR concepts. I hate that the software forces it to be an iPad stuck to your face, and how uncomfortable it is even after trying multiple "light seal" gaskets.
>>109464832You forgot the part about them increasing the price of a product that isn't selling
>>109466817Interesting. Thanks for sharing anon. >>109466818It was this. Not a single ad for this thing put a White guy front and center. OPs ad is so ridiculous as to look surreal; it’s like an ad for a product in some woke Netflix sci fi show.Price was a huge problem as well, they were booed by their own developers when they announced it at GDC. They still refused to give an inch.
>>109464687Unironically this
>>109464677Main reason why people buy VR are games and porn. Apple doesn't allow porn and there are no games.
>>109468055you can’t open porn on safari using the vision pro?
>>109464677Dumb price, ugly/evil creature 'advertising' it, no games and presumably restrictive to what you can install. I only use my Quest for JAV now anyway.
>>109468055>Apple doesn't allow pornnothing stops the user from opening a videothat said, the video players are trash for viewing that kind of contentthough it should be noted that even "8K" porn is still too low res to look that great, you'd want liughtfield or splat-based modeling instead for proper 6DOF 3D effect
Just because you can't afford something, or can find someone to steal it from, doesn't mean a product has been discontinued dumbdumb.
If it is too expensive and there isn't enough videogames or things to do with it off course that is not going to sell.
>>109468055True. If I had an AVP though I'd try using ALVR to connect to my Windows PC and run VRchat. It apparently works pretty well.
Apple tried to enter a two decade old market with an overpriced toy and no software to back it up, even when the hololens have been the industry standard for a decade. Bold and reckless move.
>>109466717VR porn doesn't exist. there's only 180º 3D porn.you cannot move around like in actual VR.
>>109465988> retarded price tagNot really retarded, I think it was a marketing ploy. Luxury companies like clothes or cars do it all the time. They drop some sort of impracticably expensive piece of shit, which a small percentage of "whale" diehard fans buy, but for the rest it is too expensive and impractical. But for the rest it cements in the discourse the meme "oh COMPANYNAME? that stuff is super expensive and fancy".And then with this association in their mind a normie sees their product that they actually might want to buy, which is still overpriced but not exorbitant, and feel like they got a good deal. Their "$700 caster wheels" or however much that shit was was the same play.
The thing that went wrong was that they made a high-end VR headset at a time when VR was selling really well, but they called it something different (mixed/augmented computing or whatever) and didn't make it appealing to any enthusiast VR users since it didn't support existing infrastructure or software for gayming/PC streaming.So in other words they saw high-end enthusiast products were being successfully sold in market A (due to tech hobbyist furries buying $5,000 headsets and full body tracking for VRChat) and they decided they wanted to tap into that, but for some reason they tried to target their headset toward a brand new category B and make it into a whole new thing, which doesn't have any market at all.
>>109464677>Dumb ergonomics, goggles are a shit form factor>Developer device, did not expose full functionality to developers>No software unless you use wireless streaming from Windows or Linux, so not compatible with their own ecosystem>Overpriced>Stupid eye passthrough>Chose an actor for marketing based likely entirely on how her hair would look when wearing the headset>>109464699People will accept whatever is shilled to them. The notion of "strapping something to your head for VR is weird", is weird to normalfags because television and movies mostly portrayed VR as weirdos with things strapped to their heads whenever they wanted to jump on the bandwagon and make a VR episode.Protective equipment for high speed sports is used more or less based on how prevalent it is in the marketing material.>>109465217Nah, never happening. It's too compelling of an idea and the tech is almost there.
>>109468756>It's too compelling of an idea and the tech is almost there.The tech has been "almost there" for as long as I've been alive.
>>109464677America lost.
>>109468610>It apparently works pretty well.the ET+FT aren't directly usable thanks to Apple's faggotry
>>109464677>advertised with nigsvr already had low appeal but they managed to make it even lower
the worst of vr
Contrary to popular rhetoric, niggers are ugly. Even the pretty ones, put a white bitch in the ads and it would have sold to us trader bros. Nobody wants ugly monkeys.
>>109466397>Should have been a $1200 item at most.wait.... how much was it?
>>109469547never mind >>109466794absolutely insane
Who was this for? Some nigger bitch? They all got kids by the ripe old age of 14. They’re all poor as hell. You told us>it’s not for youWhen you advertise movies and games we don’t like showing woke stuff. So the product got slept on. Are ya feeling Mr chief? I’m not a black woman. I can afford it but the product was not made for me. So I bought a clevo watch instead.
>>109469224And it will remain "almost there" for as long as you continue to be alive. Within 5 years of your death we will have full neural jacked in VR tho.
>>109464677>product called vision>absolutely no vision for the productWhat in the god damn fuck did they mean by this?
>>109469610They weren’t in the “earnings stage” yet. ;)
What the fuck were they thinking by not having openxr support.
>>109469610>it's called vision>you can't see while you're wearing it
>>109469224The current iteration of VR has survived a decade of ongoing development.A lot of what needs to be changed is actually just cutting off all the bullshit injected by the 2010 market like walled gardens, Windows 10 and all-in-one standalone. It's like if the 2000s transition away from early shitty LCD displays was immediately hijacked by forced HDMI and streaming only Smart TVs.
>>109469649>>you can't see while you're wearing itit has passthroughalbeit very blurry when in motion
>>109468670wrong, I fucked my robo gf in VR on the couch then grabbed her and fucked her in the bedroom
>>109464677What can I do with a $3500 AVP that I cannot do with the Quest I bought for $150?
>>109464677The audience for this was really small. VR enthusiasts didn't want to touch it because it's locked down Apple shit. Can't even have cybersex on VRChat with it because "NOOOOO everything needs to go through APROOOOOOVAL!". Well, and the price tag.
>>109470847display double the number of pixels
>what went wrong?
>>109470847get laid
>>109472563
Literally no one gives a fuck about VR except a few use cases. They’ve been pushing this slop since the early 80s and it keeps failing.
>>109464781Heheheheh. This.
>>109464677They were 2 steps ahead
>>109466794>>109469565>>109466397>Should have been a $1200 item at most.>>109465755>It was gay and retarded... actually what DID go wrong this sounds like a perfect iToddler productSimply iShit is useless however the point is that non whites buy it to feel ritch.>actually what DID go wrongThey did not hard lock its price at 10K then the apple drones will buy it.
>>109468670you can in virt-a-mate or skyrim vr with sex mods
>>109464677once apple converts their VR exclusives to flat
>>109468670>you cannot move around like in actual VR.you can if it's a gaussian splat
>>109464677VR, in practice, is exclusively about video games. Apple Vision Pro doesn't have any proper VR games. It is also too expensive. Finally, the new CEO, John Ternus, apparently didn't like the idea from the start.
Genuinely if they had marketed this towards furries and VR chatters, it would have sold like hotcakes. The problem was that they took a technology that is mainly propped up on societal deviants using it to enact their fantasies, removed all the aspects that made it appealing to said deviants (vr social games), and tried marketing it to normies who have no interest in a $3000 VR headset.
>>109464677besides the obvious.make an AR type of experience which requires you to see the real world. proceed to use a camera instead of seethrough glass, which introduces latency and discomfort.in general, vr is an uncomfortable gimmick. i have a killer AR idea though, so i'm hoping for a comfortable future.
>>109464677way too fucking expensive. even rich fags didnt want to spend that money on it
>>109464677I really do wonder who this was actually marketed for with how much they used this picture to market it.
>>109464699no no more like people don't trust wearing shit like this in public when someone could just fucking snatch it off their head and bye bye $3,000 headset.
i regret buying mine but the vr looks good in it
>>109479731with the open face mount and dual knit strap, you can have it floating in ur face with high FOV very comfortably despite the crazy weight
>>109464770Kek
>>109468223You can open porn, but only 2D porn. Nobody cares about 2D porn on a VR device. Apple deactivated the feature that allows websites to detect that they are using a VR device. Websites that are build for VR devices i.e. all VR porn sites simply won't work correctly.
>>109464838He's feeling bobs of his virtual double-D AI girlfriend
>>109465788Is that possible?
>>109464677it's too obvious when you wear it near children's playgrounds, perverts prefer Meta's AR glasses
>>109464677Nigger
>meanwhile, non-Apple VR...
>>109464838>>109464770>>109464677>>109472563Why is it always a black person doing the ads? I get the feeling that Apple Vision Pro is a product for black people.
>>109464677Monkey hair
>>109464677It's gay, retarded and expensive, so it's not discontinued and in fact a staple of Apple design
>>109464677it's not ai
>>109481338it's a useless device that no White man would spend money on, so they market it to negroes in the hope they buy it just to feel rich. Look up "The Congo Dandies" to understand the mindset.
Remember when 3D TVs were at peak hype around the time the first avatar movie was released, when literally everything had to have 3D, then only 10 years later it died off completely and everybody forgot about it?
>>109464682Too expensive for B2C and not expensive enough for B2B.The price for that level of capability was a steal for industrial use cases, but I suspect that it would never have been profitable for Apple at that price and volume.
>>109481661>industrial use caseslike what?
>>109481749Visualizing new manufacturing lines before making big investments in retooling the factory. Workers will wear these and pretend to do work in order to collect data on efficiency, health and safety.These devices cost tens of thousands a pop, which make Apple Vision Pro a steal, but then a billion dollar car company might only need a few dozen of them, so it's not a very big market.
>>109464677No Games
>>109481338>Why is it always a black person doing the ads?Their marketing campaign was most likely still created during peak wokeshit.
>>109466794it's $3699 now
>>109465217This >>109465830, and Gaben is pretty much the last person of note who people at least could imagine of having success with it.If Gaben's efforts fail again then it's dead an buried.Basically the only thing remaining then is a total wildcard, completely unforeseen and out of the blue...
>>109481968>Visualizing new manufacturing lines before making big investments in retooling the factory. Workers will wear these and pretend to do work in order to collect data on efficiency, health and safety.You can already simulate movements with CAD and make mockups with cardboard and 3d printsThe only valid use case is as a meme to put as background on a corporate website
>>109482930>Putin price hike
>>109481968>Visualizing new manufacturing lines before making big investments in retooling the factory. Workers will wear these and pretend to do work in order to collect data on efficiency, health and safety.Is the software actually THERE to make this happen?
>>109468287This, saw the model and instantly went, ignore~
