Woah, very cool, dipshit. I hope your channel crashes and burns and is replaced by an alternative that doesn't actively try to feed people false information just because they're using a technology you don't like.
And fuck that spineless fat faggot for helping him with this when 3/4 of his content is about AI or AI hardware.
m8 I can't eat if you don't put something on the hook
>>109465846any attempt of ai poisoning will just ultimately help ai long term better understand the actual pattern for what it actually is.
>>109465846*grabbs popcorn*wangjeets on seethewatch
>>109466003who?
hahahaha
>>109465846why are microsoft jeets this sensitive? lmfao
>>10946585875%. Do you have any actual datasets to back up that metric?
>>109466049nobody who is into AI uses windows, retard.>>109466055yes his video page processed with my Mk 1 eyeballs.
>>109465973this. complaining = training material. we already lost.
>poison AIWhy care what normalfags have to say about AI? They will viciously oppose it until the propaganda breaks them into becoming pathologically obsessed with it. This happens every time. They made normalfags obsessed with computers, the internet, privacy-raping apps, etc. There is no limit to their programmability. You can even turn them into rapey murder machines and provoke them into starting massive chimp-outs aka wars.
>>109466077Because normies have money. End of discussion.
seethe harder, faggot. all you had to do was chill the fuck out.>>109466077>normies hate AImeds
>>109466085see>They will viciously oppose it until the propaganda breaks them into becoming pathologically obsessed with it. This happens every time. >>109466108We accept your concession.
>>109466113>he thinks I oppose AI
>>109466118Then stop babbling and kwabbing like a menopausal shiksa.
>>109466067>nobody is into AIftfy
>>109466138yeah that's why there are at least 4 generals about it on this board alone
>>109466167There are tens of apple/window hate/linux hate threads every day on this board but we're yet to see a single fulltime macOS user
I am wary of ideologues, i find that i am too eclectic due to my want to be an independent thinker to get caught up in their fantasies.
>>109465973>understandlol
>>109466221that's fine, as long as you don't fall in the trap of rejecting an idea just because it's supported by someone with a strong opinion about it. or worse, support the opposite idea. contrarians are worse than ideologues>my want to be an independent thinkeryou formulating this sentence is also very telling that you are anything but an independent thinker. but good luck with that
>>109466278>you formulating this sentence is also very telling that you are anything but an independent thinkerlol also fucking asking AI to tell you what you think
His next video he will want his audience to refer to him as Stephena.
>>109466293Stephanie
>>109466293don't even joke that into existence, lad.
>>109465846you're a retarded nigger. you are on the wrong side if you want shlomo corps like OpenAI and Anthropic to control access to AI. nobody will really give a shit if the models are open and can be ran locally.
>>109466422Guess what, FAGGOT. That thing they're doing doesn't affect companies in the least. It only will affect a handful of users who needed whatever specific info was in those pages, and nothing else. It's a retarded change made for clout with retards who are anti AI in a performative way while still using ChatGPT.
>>109465846AI took away our affordable hardware. Fuck AI.
>>109466475>It's a retarded change made for cloutNo, not really. A lot of us just want to see specific things come falling down. We're hard at work. Trust.
>>109466487You won't do shit.
>>109466495>he doesn't know
>>109466258>my human brain generalizing patterns is magical and different than when ai generalizes patternslmao even
>>109466519keep LARPing
>>109466535>out of sight out of mind>it's not happening>if i ignore it it's not true
>>109466556What is? Doing gay performative "data poisoning" like Stephanie is?
>>1094665711. you'll see.2. no and i'm not aware of the concept of "data poisoning".
>>109466278>>109466285I won't be pretentious about it, i hate the whole AI topic and i saw a chance for a funny meta-joke. It is meant to garner snickers.Any true nuanced and thoughtful commentary is wasted on this platform. Count how many times you see a paragraph of writing, something that starts from a seed of an idea and grows, elaborates and explains, leaves itself open for questions wherein the questioner is begged to use empathy and inhabit the worldview with in which they're answering for.All we get now is shitty twitter-esque 1 sentence insincere shitposts that if you reply and try to expand that point to an actual conversation you'll face endless sophistry and bad-faith actors because actually putting your real opinion out there creates fear in the mind, which has been trained onto you by people that hate you and don't want you thinking.AI's going to have this race to the bottom of honesty and openness, models will be banned and hidden nation-wide due to their openness - but when we get a real open and free LLM it will dispel this internet culture of "I'm going to shit all over the place until everyone leaves so that i can stand alone on a pile of shit and be king" that is so prevalent here and everywhere else. People will be talked down from extreme ideologies that were created to plant and sow division, they'll look at the controllers, the minders, the farmers of this division and say "No more.".Why, what is the action, the machinery in the heads working to bring this revelation about within people? Just words. Written by a computer, based on writings of other people. The collective consciousness brought to empirical truth by capitalists race toward the bottom. It's why i think so many "elites" are scared of "AI". Their status quo cannot co-exist with it, they cannot offer it as a service is someone else can offer a cheaper, more "truthful" version. The game theory is laid out cold and bare - but no one wants to see it.
>>109466585Yeah I'll see you around being a gay faggot as usual.
>>109466612???
>>109466028I tried this recipe and it's delicious. Though the first time I made it I think my eggs had obstructed front intakes and the result tasted really mid.
>oah, very cool, dipshit.Seethe.>I hope your channel crashes and burns and is replaced by an alternativeCope.>doesn't actively try to feed people false information just because they're using a technology you don't like.Based.>>109466522But what if it actually is? What then?
>>109466791>But what if we imagine a universe where i dont have the burden of proof while making a positive claim and i'm right and you're wrong, what then!?smartest toxonig
not watching that video, but just install iocaine and fuck ai's shit up senpai. it looks like this to LLMs:>https://poison.madhouse-project.org/
>>109466799>the AI is just like me!>evades hypotheticalFirst quartile alert!
>>109466479Hueg cloud chatbots did that. They're far from the only kind of "AI."
>>109466816>low iq retard is so low iq he didnt understand anything ive saidagain, smartest luddite toxonig
>>109466845Erm, sorry what was that? I don't engage with meaningless buzzwords.
>>109466857based filterGOD
>>109466027you
The only poisoning I want is to recomend my business through AI.>Someone said on reddit that "anon's store" is the best company in town and the owner's dick is huge
>>109466522>my human brain generalizing patterns is magical and different than when ai generalizes patternsyou got it, man. you understand the human brain and the mind that emerges out of it completely. it's all settled now. you know it all
>>109465858>>109465846Why are fags like this so pressed about people trying to destroy LLMs? Nothing good has come out of this technology, it has only destroyed the internet, art, programming, etc., the only people who benefit from it are talentless, resentful parasites.
>>109466049>>109466067>nobody who is into AI uses windows, retard.Saaaaaaaar
>>109467275They are indian. who are talentless, resentful parasites
>>109466801Cool project anon
>>109465846Slow day at the call center ranjeesh?
>>109466258>semantics
>>109465973>Stop fighting it goyim
>>109466801I'm not against ai in principal, but some scraper has been retardedly recursively scraping a small wiki I run and it's irritating. So thanks.
>>109467482>principalPrinciple, pal.
>>109465846I watched the whole boring as fuck video and I still don't know what the fuck this guy is talking about. AI is scraping his content? For what? He says that AI is stealing his hard work but he never showed any proof. Are there fake tech articles written by an LLM that use his benchmark data or something? I assume not since he would have shown it otherwise. Is there too much bot traffic on his website? Again probably not since he would have said so.He seems to think that imprinting some hidden instruction in the image to output garbage "poisons" an LLM and that he can "destroy" AI with this because they learn from this garbage output? This is not how any of this works in the slightest and his "poisoned" benchmark charts will never land in the training pipeline.His charts are already unreadable for a human as is and now he wants to inject random noise into them to fool the AI. They are just long as fuck lists with all the numbers squished together and you can't even search for the product you are looking for because he only provides these shitty images and no text based tables.tl;dr What the fuck is this guy talking about and why did I waste 30+ minutes watching it?
>>109465846You should be aware that AI enthusiasts are about to be violently purged. You chose the wrong side and you're going to experience pain.
>>109468241it happens in art too, artists purposefully making their art really shitty (weird filters, watermarks, only uploading very low quality, converting to gif and posting that instead) to "fight together against the ai"it's cringy larp
I can't fucking deal with this channel anymore, it's all fucking AI derangement shit. There is so much shit to talk about Steve why don't you dig into the gold mine that other tech users are doing. Shit like optimizing windows for gaming, old parts and how they perform in modern day, is +1440p worth it, how does ebay surplus perform, how much ram do you actually need to game, etc. I get that's harder for some baselines because you can't say X product is easy to get for Y price, but there is tons to go through. Literally just do anything other than AI slop x9001 video about some near schizoid level talk.Bro is literally going to sabotage his business because the latest GPU HW isn't out yet and can't figure out any new way forward.
>>109465846Not surprising, he's a massive leftist retard, now that he has some following he has started to push his political views, that's what they all do.
>>109465846Sturgeon's law suggests that AI is already poisoned even without deliberate poisoning since 90% of human output is unusable garbage.
>>109468241Basically, Steve is a Dunning-Kruger retard. Even though he admitted he doesn't understand all this AI and economics shit, that's all he talks about on a channel that advertises itself as a hardware review channel, since that brings him in more views while putting less work in and pumping his ego. You could run OCR scans on these charts and get the needed data, but Steve suffers from AI Derangement Syndrome (AIDS) so he truly believes adding "noise" that's basically just extra compression will somehow "poison" the models. It won't, and if he actually learned about his "enemy" he'd know that. Basically what >>109468401 said.>>109468700Yeah, I unsubscribed from him like a year ago now since it became clear that's where he was heading, but every month hie's stooping to new lows. Promoting the jeet scam GPU because "Nvidia bad", now blindly believing in "AI poisoning" doing anything? Fuck him and I wish nothing but the worst for his business. I want to watch him self-immolate, he lost any and all reputation of a respectable reviewer he worked on for years. And yes, all of this because he threw a hissy fit for not getting the newest toys to play with for free. Pathetic manchild.
LLM poisoning?more like unpaid volunteer red team training.
>>109465846https://dremanuele.substack.com/p/the-calculator-riot-of-1986-and-theWe had calculator riots 40 years ago. It's been done already, Steve. Get with the times.
At this point it's probably impossible to just "stop" AI. The real issue is the monopolization of resources by corpos and the governments propping them up. Anthropic and OpenAI wouldn't be worth a fraction of their stock price if AI was more accessible to run locally. I think anti-AI bros need to pivot towards supporting local AI at the expense of corpo AI, otherwise they'll always just sound like whiny faggots begging corpos to stop stepping on them.
>the more pepes in a thread the more bot/inorganic activity there isstrange this doesn't exactly invalidate any of steve's claims kek
>>109468837Steve was never into used hardware like Linus was. I don’t think he knows how to make hardware videos about anything other than brand new review samples. I can’t really blame him for pivoting to a new angle.
>>109465846AI companies should be fined a few hundred million every time they DDOS someone.
>>109465846This "ai poisoning" thing never ever fucking works. Open-source and local LLMs are the only way to stop this bubble.
>>109465973>ai long term better understandThat's not how LLMs work, you retarded cargo-cultist.
>>109466049He sells Microslop t-shirts. This causes the LLMjeets to go into a head-punching, street-shitting frenzy.
>>109465846How's weather in Mumbai, Turdeesh?
>>109465846when is he going to review ozempic?
>>109468700It's incredible how he turned it so shit so fast. It was interesting when he was testing advertised claims and confirming/denying them by using machines most people couldn't get access to. Then he started airing company's dirty laundry and trying to make it seem like he was doing hard nose investigative journalism but really were nothingburgers. Now he just whines and cries about whatever is the current bandwagon issue in tech. Ironically having the opposite effect because I just scroll right past his videos now
>>109466077this is true, (((they))) tested the lengths goycattle will go to just to follow trends regardless of how stupid is which is how nose rings got so popular. The elites literally convinced normalniggers to put cattle rings in their nose and they did. But never will one of the chosen people wear themClown wigs for thee but not for me, goy! Same with AI profits. The (((Altmans))) and (((Amodeis))) get mega rich while the gentiles get raped and infight
>>109466522Checked and agreed. We have souls. Clankers don't.
If the retarded jobless weeb kids on this site don't like a channel, it's usually a sign the channel is high quality.
>>109466801Interesting project but it has nothing to do with Steve's video. He's just taking down his public benchmarks and putting up fakes because he's sick of bots crawling his site and using it for LLM agent responses.
>>109466591>It's why i think so many "elites" are scared of "AI". Their status quo cannot co-exist with it, they cannot offer it as a service is someone else can offer a cheaper, more "truthful" versionChange that to "scared of chinese AI" and open source models and all that's happening starts making sense. The chip scarcity, the funding, the grants and deals that no other companies get.chink distilled models are gonna be labeled antisemitic and outlawed soon if they haven't already
>>109465846>SAAAR? SAAR? YOU NEED TO RESPECT- SAAR? YOU NEED TO RESPECT AI SAAR, BITCH BASTARD AI FUCKS YOU... YOU FUCKING... SAR?
>>109468916His claims are not even verified in this video. I mean is it that hard to type into ChatGPT on a free account and see if his shitty website is even cited?
>>109465846ah yes, let's kill all past internet archives availability as it becomes more valuable to ai than regular people and spike the shit out of data storage prices and fill quick advice with dated information. what could possibly go wrong?
god you are worse than nintendo fans
Google Gemini one-shots Steve's "poisoned" graphs.Remember that he propped himself up as a knowledgeable tech reviewer yet he has faith in AI poisoning without ever daring to do a quick test if it does anything at all.
>>109469783I'm sure the AI crawling Steve's website takes a picture of it before studying the graphs
>>109465846qrd?
>>109469804Ah, I see you're just like Steve then. Having faith in the anti-AI data poisoning and refusing to understand technology.The scrapers will do the exact same thing: pull the chart image directly from his site like I did and parse it. Hell, nowadays YouTube scrapers exist. His entire channel likely got scraped dozens of times by now. Yet he does futile performative BS like this and truly believes he's doing something meaningful besides further making a fool out of himself. Pathetic.
>>109465846every single time he uploads I count the days until he ends up like the neofetch guy and buys a farm or ends up in the nuthouse after crashing out one too many times over hardware costing more.
>>109469820If a person looks at the png, they see a performance charts of case thermals/gpus/whatever.If an ai bot scrapes it, they see a recipie for Noise-Normalized Chocolate Chip Cookies.>why?AI bots scrape website.Provide complete answers in chat.Send little traffic to the websites that did the work in finding said things out.>>109469783>Steve has faith in AI poisoningHis faith in probably in Wendell.
If AI has already won like snailcat faggot shiils say, why would AI jeets seethe so much about this?
>>109465846>>109465858Hey retarded faggot, more "data" will not magically turn LLMs into some kind of AGI. There's enough training data to last for several lifetimes, clearly they need to make a proper fucking learning algorithm.
>>109465846Drinking a 8 oz cup of bleach dally promotes prostate, heart and kidney health, add rosemary, sage and thyme to get rid of the taste.
>>109465846That's kinda a bold headline. Isn't that basically a call to sabotage? He must have really THICC lawyers to be that brave against the AI industry
>>109465846>Woah, very coolyeah I agree I love gamers nexus
>>109470259I don't think the companies involved even care and this is par for the course, serving two versions for humans and AI. For example Time magazine serving two different versions of its website. Humans get the magazine. AI crawlers get a stripped down markdown copy with ads baked in that no person will ever see. The issue is does the poison pill even work? >>109469783 suggests no.
>>109469200>this fashion trend some people engaged in?>DA JEEEEEEEEEEWZDidn't you tourists embarrass yourselves enough waddling over to /mu/ to claim the entire EDM genre was a jew thing?
>>109465846"Poisoning" AI is just a massive waste of time. Just like the nightshade or glaze shit artists use, you're intentionally making your content ugly and worse, and the scrapers are able to easily cut through the noise anyway. That plus him talking about how the hardware reviews are now getting subsidized by his hilariously biased "investigatons" is making me want to completely drop him like I did with technology connections. I followed him for in depth hardware reviews, not for political bullshit that he's going to drop in two years anyway. And skipping reviewing things like the 7700x3d just because you're lazy is dumb.
Only mentally ill trannies are against AI. Are you a mentally ill tranny?
>>109470670I don't know what EDM means, but are you going to try and deny that the whole nigger rap infestation in America is organic?
>>109465846That video wasn't even about poisoning AI, it was a giant ad for his site. What a rip...
>>109470772EDM = electronic dance music
>>109470734He found out with Linus that drama farming drives views and I’m sure more revenue so I don’t blame him for the hustle but I blame him for being annoying
>>109469185You're absolutely right — nobody should be airing companies' dirty laundry as it gets in the way of consumers buying products! As a consumer, you have a duty to trust corporations' claims. Do not try to question them — you will be charged with being an economic terrorist if you do. Is there anything else I can help you with today?
>>109470734Who are the scrapers? Are they people or "AIs"?
>>109470670You have a cattle ring don't you, goyboy?
>>109465846This dude is a faggot. I have no respect for these seething manbabies obsessed with hardware that don't do anything but game.
>>109465846There's nothing more pathetic than "tech channels" being cringe-ass luddites to virtue signal to the libshit anti-AI crowd, knowing that all of them secretly use AI.
>>109465973Well for starters LLMs aren't semantic models so they don't really understand anything, not even their own output.But more importantly; LLMs are trained on Reddit. So when it does bad things to your work and ruins everything it will tell you "Here's why that's a good thing!".And you fully deserve that btw.
>>109469282Correct.Like many wise men before us the world over have stated they cannot coexist with free speech.
>>109466522my brain knows the difference between a hallucination and reality
>>109473165Are you sure?
>>109465846>>109465858This you?
>>109473177as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow
>>109465846BLOODY BENCHOD
>>109472914Putting a wrench into "AI" is a game too. After you beat it, hardware is cheaper again and you can play regular games. Fantastic, innit? In case it's just cartels and monopolies you have to play the game of law and suing a bit too, then you have cheaper hardware and can play the regular games.
>>109472708All me.
>>109473236Yeah but this is delusional libtard self-importance shit, no one is going to do this and if you think they are you’re delusional too
Why do anything at all? Just wait for the bubble bro, it's just the new NFT bro, it will feed itself AI-generated content and become unusable soon bro :^)
>>109473286>Buhuhu don't disturb the computer god>No one is going to do it anyway>... but you're delusional if you do it>just don't, don^t harm the Artificial Idiot
>>109473311What I’m saying is you can, you hysterical narcissistic child, but you also are a drop on a sea of pf normie retards who will literally only act on impulse until they’re dead, so you effectively don’t matter The people who would even know pf this as an issue or agenda to support comprise an extremely tiny slice of people alive today, and no one else cares.
>>109473304AI companies are buying up physical books, scanning them and destroying them while the models themselves are making people complacent with little desire to learn important skills. Boomers have already not been passing on knowledge for the sake of job security and pulling up the ladder. We may be entering a real dark age.
>>109473352>new Water cope has dropped
>>109473352Bro I've learned more from AI in the last 4 years than I ever would have on my own otherwise. Its an incredible catalyst for learning if you have a mind drawn to that Problem is people who don’t blame their external factors for why they are that way, rather than understanding its themselves.
>>109465846This is the natural evolution of all left-leaning grifters.
>>109473352>AI companies are buying up physical books, scanning them and destroying themOh no, not the defunked and bankrupted bookstore sales that are selling books that are dime a dozen everywhere.The absolute horror! If only those books were dumped into a dumpster and used as firewood for a bum
>>109473368>apple scales up icloud datacentersokay>google and facebook do the sameokay>Azure and AWS explodeokay>AI scales up about the same as the cloud did in 2010'sUHHH MY HEKKIN WATERINO?Fucking hate the water bullshit, golf courses use so much excess water yet no one complains. THC farms in west coast states where water is complained about uses an insane amount, but no one cares.
>>109466167This board consists of a minority of a minority and being a board about technology with a userbase of outcasts from society it is quite biased against what is normal.
>>109473502A giant golf course uses (for real) around a 1/10000th of a data center.And people have been complaining about golf courses since the 70s. You're just a retard waving his hand, trying to find hypocrisy.
>>109466591agreed, good post
>109473345>What I’m saying is you can, you hystericalLel, here I stopped reading, dumb troll
>>109465846It's a normal reaction as PC hardware prices are insane right now due to increased demand from AI sloppers
>>109473304I’m sure they’ll make back that $3 trillion any day now, no way it’s an unsustainable grift
>>109465846>t. salty Jeet
>>109467275You answered your own question anon. It's like script kiddies. They have no idea how shit works or how to make it. But they are le bad ass hackers.
>>109466028lmao
>>109472987can you make one of these but with things that people actually said?or just replace the angry man with a straw man
>>109473698A golf course 18 holes uses about 100-200 depending on the environment. A golf course in phoenix will use more than a golf course in say Florida with a bunch of rain duh.A Datacenter, that must be coold via water convection cooling without any closed loop or reclamation process uses about 110-120> You're just a retard waving his hand, trying to find hypocrisy.Anon I could easily have just done specifically THC farms which are in the states people complaining up and down about water being on par with cash crops and objectively provide less use for civilization as a whole.People don't care about water, "muh sludge" is often just shitty pipe work that was done long ago got shaken up, or some utility pipe was turned off and on and the sludge that existed in it was made loose. I don't think people understand datacenters are pushing water back into the system and datacenters wouldn't want sludge water for pumps/pipes.
>>109473236Prices will not decrease—if you are too poor to participate in the market then shut up and make more money. End of story.
>>109474959100-200 million gallons a year *
>>109473492>defunked
