One person controls the single global signing key. Every update pushed to 400000 devices is signed by Daniel Micay. He already proved in 2018 he will destroy signing keys and brick thousands of users devices on purpose when he feels wronged. That same key can push any code, silently, automatically, to any phone, at any time. verified boot guarantees the device will accept it. You would have no way to know what was added.
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>>109466068I'm sorry, but I'm still going to use GrapheneOS. Okay?
yes, gos is controlled opposition, news at 11
Yeah but glowniggers can get a reverse shell to my phone by sending me a text message if I use stock android, so I don't care
>>109466068>That same key can push any code, silently, automatically, to any phone, at any time.*disable auto-update*what now?
>>109466068While I agree philosophically more with Rossmann, I appreciate Mr. Schizo's Dead Man's Switch.If Israel tries to compromat him, he simply destroys the keys.
>>109466078>>109466339
this thread glows
>>109466068I never understand why GOS and the team around it has some sort of weird cult-like vibe. Any discussion on "what do I replace android with" always deteriorates into "NOTHING IS SECURE EXCEPT GRAPHENE".I mean literally no other topic in open source software or private software or what have you has this kind of combativeness.
>>109466068>all modern operating systems ultimately require trusting whoever controls the update signing keys>GrapheneOS is not unique in this respect; Windows, macOS, iPhone, Pixel, Samsung, and others use the same trust model>the main difference is governance and operational security around those keys, not the existence of trusted signing keys themselvesSo what is your more secure and private alternative OP?
>>109468341Because >what if I just...is a slippery slope. We have over a decade of experience of garbage custom ROMs and OEM Androids not even having the most basic security features or gaping fucking holes in their security.Open bootloaders, root access, disabled selinux, random apps with all permissions and root access, etc etcGrapheme puts an end to this nonsense with competent devs and basic common sense. If you are retarded, just use ANYTHING else. The options are there.But there is only 1 Graphene OS.That's why people like me get so mad when retards like you suggest stupid shit FOR GrapheneOS
>>109468707so you are just admitting that GOS is no different than apple and microshit?
>>109468864
>>109468963Ultimately it is not a tech problem, it's an institutional trust problem.From one point of view you can say that big corps like Apple or M$ have a lot of skin in the game and a lot of stock price to lose if they pull retarded shit like throw a tantrum and brick client devices, whereas a small FOSS dev team has no such guarantees and if the head maintainer goes off his pills he can just burn it all down one day.From another point of view you can say that big corps like Apple and M$ are too big to care about customer experience so they may do anti consumer bullshit, enter into agreements with security services, etc. whereas a small dev team with a committed head maintainer have values.It's a purely human problem, you cannot engineer a solution to it.
>>109469027so in the end, grapheneos is just as trustworthy as microshit and apple.tim apple, bill gates and david micay. they are all the same.
>>109468975That's meme isn't wrong. The average American adult only reads at about a 6th grade level. The average person is genuinely a fucking moron.
>>109469027It's a no win situation.>Go with Android Google monitors every move you and tracks every breath you take, quite literally. >Go with AppleApple scans every message, photo, and your iCloud and reports you to police.>Go with GrapheneSchizo chimps out and bricks your device because he forgot to refil his meds.>Go Linux phone LolIt really is over. And how did we get to this point? See.... >>109469102
>>109469132I would take the schizo any day over the alternatives. And of course, this thread is bait, all one guy samefagging because he got banned from. The GOS forums. Lmao.
>>109469168OHHHH I thought he was that street shitting apple shill that shit up the cell phone general.
>>109466538what the fuck is a "reverse shell"?
>>109469293A remote shell accessed through a reverse tunnel (outbound-initiated connection instead of inbound)
>>109469293basically it lets them hackerman you
>>109468975More like>we need to lock it down to a reasonable level so bad actors can't take advantage of the users
>>109469132>>Go with Graphene>Schizo chimps out and bricks your device because he forgot to refil his medsI'll go with that. Doesn't sound so bad.I fully trust this schizo
>>109469521schizos > normies
>>109466068>he will destroy signing keys and brick thousands of users devices on purpose when he feels wrongedWtf are you talking about? How does destroying singing key will break devices?
>>109466068This is in fact how signing was always supposed to work. Ask yourself why GPG signs everything with a key attached to your email address, for example?It's because signing keys are supposed to belong to people not machines. There is supposed to be an identity behind it.
>>109469102>The average American adult only reads at about a 6th grade level.Demographics is key hereWhich americans specifically drag this so low?
>>109468975except graphene has TONS of options that can break things if the user is a moronbut I guess you never used it so you wouldn't now
I've used Android for well over a decade. Google already has my "life story." So really what's the point? It's not like I'm going to morph into a different person or my "identify" is suddenly going to change. What benefit I am going to get by switching now?
>>109470965You get to be the ep1c h4x0r everyone is scared about but yeah I feel like there's no much point for people that have been stuck with Google service for + 10 years this a better thing for smartphones newcomers
>>109471026I get it. I agree. Nothing about me is really going to change. Google already knows my hobbies, my interestes, places I frequent, where I work, where I live, my taste for big assed latinas, my shitposting habbits on 4Cums... None that is going to change and they already known everything. So, what? I inconvenience myself on an OS to protect "data" (((they))) already have?Makes no sense.But, you're right. Cell phone newcomers? Yes. Even iPhone users moving to android would benefit.
>>109470965For me it's not about my identity or trying to hide stuff or whatever. It's more about the basic principle of me telling my device exactly what I want it to do and it doing exactly what I want it to do, instead of it telling me to get fucked and eat shit, which is how stock consumer OSes tend to operate. I'm okay with being told to get fucked for not having a stock OEM signed ROM, I like to keep mental notes of entities that do this sort of thing.
>>109471092Age and ID verification is another reason. That is untile the law requires services to require a verification token from the client or deny access/service.
>>109471092>telling my device exactly what I want it to do and it doing exactly what I want it to doyou didn't even read the code and you think your device is yours?
>>109471092If you're not concerned about privacy, what exactly is it you can do on GOS that you can't do on stock?
>>109466068That's literally every piece of software ever. I understand why you would trust Google over a violent schizophrenic, but logically there's no difference between either.
>>109471306https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
>>109466068Cellebrite and/or GrayKey developer getting the terminal buttmad because his billion dollar security cracking software can't crack GOS
>>109471085he's not wrong
>>109471786hope it'll keep that way
>>109466068don't give a fuck, I'll just reinstall it with another key or something, it's still 100000000000000000000000000000x better than living in google's goyim golden jail
>>109468341>I never understand why GOS and the team around it has some sort of weird cult-like vibemicai is mentally ill, as simple as, I wish him no harm but his reactions to online banter is obnoxious and extreme, he can't take a joke and takes everything as face value, he is definitely on the spectrum.>Any discussion on "what do I replace android with" always deteriorates into "NOTHING IS SECURE EXCEPT GRAPHENE".which is factually true, it's the most secure BY FAR general purpose os available on the market right now, linux-based OSes, hardenedbsd, openbsd and macos included. It's also VERY hard to reach their level of security on custom yocto linux, even on seL4-based os it's a massive amount of work (that's my day-to-day job)it's ridiculous how easy and "cheap" it is to get the most secure general purpose os in existence these days, grapheneos with pKVM-based desktop mode will be INSANE value for secure environments, I could see a future with grapheneOS running on armv9-based tiny desktop machine.
>security is when the user is babyed and protected from themselvesOk. I'll just avbroot stock.
>>109472742I enjoy living in my goyim jail
>>109473147I don't get the paranoia. If you've used android for any amount of time, you're already full compromised as this guy said >>109471085Is there really any point in using an OS that's not convenient and only as stable as the lunatic who maintains it will allow?
>>109468963GOS is open source so you can verify what's in updates you dumb histrionic faggot.
>>109474063it's not paranoia, it's about controlling your device and the info you sharedegoogling isn't even gos main focus, security isthat guy >>109474063 is full of shit, basically brainlet "got nothing to hide" take
>>109471786>they pinky promised that they don't have a backdoor!Whoever falls for such bullshit deserves to get vanned.Don't forget to use your duress code when feds ask for your phone, so that feds can jail you for destroying evidence and don't even have to go out of their way to prove what you did wrong.
>>109472742You ARE living in googles goyim golden jail.That's the whole point of Goyphene. You get the Google OS on a Google phone with Google chips, proprietary Google blobs, non-reproducible binary blobs and BOTH Google and Micay (a single private person who feds have access to) holding the keys.
>>109476406>security isNo it is not, otherwise it wouldn't store keys on the notoriously insecure Google Titan chip.Goyphenes main focus is on making you feel good. Allowing you to use Google while living in a delusional ignorance of "At least its better what goys are using".It is controlled opposition at the minimum and a honeypot at worst.
>>109476545>the notoriously insecure Google Titan chip.how is it insecure? how is it more insecure than any other chip?prove you're not full of shit, back up your claims
>>109476528>Don't forget to use your duress code when feds ask for your phoneFirst, most Europeans on this board actually live in free countries where destroying evidence against you is actually legal (nemo tenetur se ipsum accusare) and second, you don't actually need this code for your data to be 100% secure. Just set the reboot timer to 2 hours with no unlock and have a 64 character unlock password. Of course only GrapheneOS actually supports these stronger passwords. As for the comparison - the reason why Chink phones are a threat is because the Chinese can use them to spy on US citizens, while US phones can't do that without the user installing Chinese spyware themselves.
>>109476545>notoriously insecure Google Titan chip.Ah yes, the Chip notorious for being featured in the only setups that Cellebrite cannot extract information from. >>109476537Are you scared about targeted, malicious updates by the feds taking over GOS? You are not forced to use auto update. Builds are currently reproducible, so you can build and push all updates yourself or download public update builds, which means they could only target everyone to get to you.If you are scared of GOS being infected with backdoors for all users, you can inspect the source code (& take your meds).
>>109466068woah sounds awful, better use megacorp spyware instead. kys gaylord
>>109468341I absolutely abhor the developer but if there's one thing he is uncompromising on it's security autism. You NEED someone like that, simple as. It's like the cybsec ppl who you think are obnoxious, they are for a reason
>>109476528>feds don't try to ban it for grapheneOSlmao. now I know you're a braindead glowie, KYS
>>109466068dont trust anyone, not even yourself
>>109476741oh yes, the BASED EVROPEAN who uses an American phone with an American companies OS, that is known for collaborating with the NSA, modified by a guy living in a five eyes country.You are so BASED and FREE. Truly the bastion of privacy and security. Just don't say that a politician is fat on twitter.Look at me making up lies to defend my corrupt unelected oligarch ruled hellhole!Look up what Beweisvereitelung is, idiot.
>>109476741In the EU (the EU is no Europe), the destruction of evidence is only legal if you are a politician and you are at court for corruption.Otherwise you get fucked.Lets say you are a truck driver and a cop asks you for the tachograph disk and you take it and destroy it before he can do that... you will be in trouble.But if Von der Leyen destroys her records of her secret conversations with Pfizer, in her background deals with the US pharma company... thats cool.
>>109476842>Look up what Beweisvereitelung is, idiot.Beweisvereitelung doesn't apply to investigations against yourself you fucking moron. Opinion discarded. >>109476864>you will be in trouble.Yes, but not for destroying evidence. >In the EU (the EU is no Europe), the destruction of evidence is only legal if you are a politician and you are at court for corruption.No, it's legal for anyone.
>>109466068and CIA/FBI can plant CP on my phone any time they feel like it. how does that make GrapheneOS worse, glownigger?
>>109476842>BeweisvereitelungThat's civil law in Germany, not criminal law. There is no law against me destroying evidence against myself before the cops can get it.
>>109476982Despite de-googling not being the primary objective of GrapheneOS, it is currently the most degoogled Android ROM on the market.You could switch to PostmarketOS at any time, no one is stopping you.
>>109476935>Beweisvereitelung doesn't apply to investigations against yourself*criminal investigations
>>109476993Nothing wrong with google. They're an ad company in the end. So they collect a bit of data to personalize ads to me, stuff I might actually need and use. >NOOOOO THE BOOGEYMAN IS GONNA GET ME AHHHHHHHHH
>>109466068Graphene is obviously glowware but it’s of the NOBUS variety, which is why US is crying and pissing every single time frogs fuck with it since it risks US' exclusivity
>>109477008>Nothing wrong with google./g/ is totally rotten by corpo cucks.
>>109477087Name ONE thing Google has done to you personally. I'll wait.
>>109477087reddit spacing
>>109466068This seems like it glows brighter than TOR and paid VPNs. But it also seems like its still useful for evading ISP bans and the cops. But it also seems like it will get you Epsteined in 2 seconds if they decide you were an actual national security threat.
>>109477135it's open source, it doesn't glow, retard.
You are all arguing over the sweetening of poison. You cannot defeat the cellular phone by carrying a specific variant. You must abandon the phone except when needed as a tool for communication in times when you actually might be concerned about doing so.You don't need your phone to go to the grocery store. You don't need a personal cell phone at work. You don't need the brick for a bike ride. You dont need this thing most of the time you are carrying it.You phone dependant freaks cope and seethe non-stop and it's hilarious.
>>109477094Read every email ever sent to accounts I made through them.
>>109477208how else can i watch Big Assed Latina porn on the fly, faggot.
>>109477087I just hope for their own sake that they're just shills, surely no one is that mentally ill to do this without payment
>>109477214and? what happened?
>>109476741>Just have a 64 character unlock password>random bad luck happens while I walk down the street>need to call 911 as quick as possible or its joever for my life>let me pull my fuckass 20-centimeter-long paper note with the password so I can attempt to type it while adrenaline is pumping through my shaky fingers as I'm dying of a heart attack or similar emergency>fuckin dies because I mispelled ¢ with cYou're a genius anon. Or perhaps you were referring to a phone that only sits in the drawer and only gets powered on twice a year to review my porn stash? No way you're actually telling me you go out with a phone like that.
>>109466068I wonder what kind of security measures they have in place so a single 5 dollar wrench attack doesnt just mean an update can be signed and pushed to stable. Surely he must have thought about that. It should need at least multiple people in different jurisdictions be able to do that.
maybe don't download his os then?im sure you can make something better, right?
>>109477268maybe stop putting penises in your mouth then?im sure you put something better in there, right?
>>109477285hey buddy dont project your gay rape fantasies onto me
>>109477268he uses android and google chrome, he's le redpeeledrofl
>>109476741>free countries where destroying evidence against you is actually legal>>109476864>>109476935In general EU doesn't have the crazy US destruction of evidence laws.In the US is it a crime to destroy evidence even if there was no crime or even a real investigation.All they need to show is that they were maybe gonna do an investigation and that you deleted something.On a side note, never keep any encrypted files or drives that you legitimately forgot the password to, because you can be held indefinitely until you give them the right one.
>>109466068that logo looks like a 6 pointed star
>>109477260
>>109477225There is no and, you just dont care about being violated.
>>109477248Are you retarded? You can call 911 even from a locked phone, that's the advantage of modern file based encryption. Plus, it's the BFU unlock password, which you only need to enter once. Afterwards, you can unlock via the keys in the secure element, either PIN, biometrics or both (2-factor, once again a GOS exclusive feature). The reason why I even mentioned the reboot timer (something you are evidently unfamiliar with) is because it returns the phone to BFU if it hasn't been unlocked in X hours. So practically speaking>phone gets stolen or collected by cops>for the next four hours they could, in theory, extract the keys from the secure element. This has never once been accomplished and there isn't even a theoretical framework on how to do this. Or they could force you to use biometrics + PIN to unlock it, which you can refuse, even in the US.>after four hours of no unlock, the phone returns to BFU and needs the ultra long passphrase because the keys have been erased from the secure element, biometrics and PIN are now worthless.
The safer approach is not to do bad things
>>109477008yes because there have been no recorded data leaks ever, no using data for political manipulation ever, no using data fo repression everit's just some simple innocent ads bro, so I can feed my need for mindless consoomerism, just let google tell me how to spend my money
>>109472715QRD on what any of this means?
>>109477260If you think such an attack is realistic (it is not), no one is forcing you to use the internal updater. You can sign your own firmware and build your own updates. But that is really useless because as an open source project, GOS gets the same type of public scrutiny that PostmarketOS, /e/OS, Sailfish and others would get. It is impractical to hide male ware inside a public update that would get pushed to all 400k+ users in stable. Even if you believe such a scenario is practical, this would apply to all open source operating systems, including Arch, Gentoo and even Alpine. The only real practical way for the feds to push a malicious update is to push it only to you in particular. Even ignoring the difficulty in finding your device in the first place, you could simply avoid being targeted by downloading the public updates from the GOS website and install it locally, as many users do.
>>109477510basically there's been no known exploits for graphene since 2022 (documents are from 2025)more pictures and infos herehttps://osservatorionessuno.org/blog/2025/03/a-deep-dive-into-cellebrite-android-support-as-of-february-2025/#the-february-2025-support-matrix
>>109476842>Hates on European using american phones>Advocates for chinese phonesMediocre bait du 1 pimmel
>>109477517Why wouldn't it be realistic? Its a huge target. And no, I don't believe you would be able to hide malware in an update. But once it is compromised, the project is done. The trust is gone. Everyone will have to reinstall. The momentum is gone. It's enough to stop the immediate threat towards authoritarianism. Which is the goal.
>>109477993So what you're saying is, while they could not realistically push an update like that to spy on people, they could use it to destroy the project?
>>109478002That would be the longer term effect, yes. They could probably do some short term direct damage with a backdoor update before the GOS infrastructure is taken offline. But it's simple cause and effect.When signing keys need to change for whatever reason, it's detrimental to the projectJust look at copperhead and calyxos. But this would be way worse. So I hope there are enough mitigations in place to protect against it.
you niggas are retarded i just use a normal Linux distro on a raspberry pi with a sim and battery as a phone. libre boot + libre kernal and the gowies fear me. no need to bother with with shit
>>109478164how is high obedience supposed to be a good trait if you are not a slave?
>>109478087... and GOS rose from the ashes of CopperheadOS? Who gives two fucks about project continuity in such an unlikely hypothetical scenario? If GrapheneOS is compromised, I simply migrate to the next best thing. That doesn't change the fact that it's currently by far the best mobile OS, in all possible metrics.
>>109478275You are not thinking about this properly. While this may not impact you significantly, it has an enormous effect an its momentum, and thus its success. Authoritarians want to have control over population, a few dissidents don't matter, and smaller groups are easier to control. It's about the masses. Same thing happened with Bitcoin. They stopped its momentum and now they can control it.They just want to stop mass adoption of something they can't control and will cause them to lose power. That's it.
>>109478222if basic obedience in a functioning society is slavery, there is no submission nor domination, no master nor slave
>>109478747Your meds
>>109478832you don't know what obedience means.
Wow this thread has gotten infested by glowies
>ChudpheneOSLol no. Just..... LMAO>NOOOO YOU JUST CANT MAKE FUN OF MUH SUPER DUPER HECKIN SECRET AGENT SPYMAN PHONE AHHHHHHHH
>>109480542>maybe if I write like a brainfried retard I could make my point across
>>109478747>They just want to stop mass adoption of something they can't control and will cause them to lose power. That's it.So what would you suggest they do to avoid that?
>>109467090>If Israel tries to compromat him, he simply destroys the keys.And if he doesn't then we're fucked? I'm just getting Guix/Nix/Arch on my phone at this rate...
>>109481486How does Guix/Nix/Arch get updated?
>>109481492By shoving a thumb stick up your ass and holding your breath for 5 minutes
>>109481492I use flakes and my own package mirror that i also host on i2p for my packages, and ocasionally update from upstream on my main desktop.
>>109481492It's about choice in this case, I choose how to be secure on my devices, to let that extend to my phone is only natural.
>>109481695Then why don't you chose to compile your own updates or simply download the update from the public website and push it to your phone by yourself?
>>109481721I be busy drinkan Hennessy n hitten PAWGS to b messing wit day nerd sheetz
>>109481360You can't, really. If anything threatening gains too much traction, an incredible amount or resources will be spent to stop it. You can avoid pretty much anything individually, but not as a large and growing group. They'll splinter communities and put forks in the road before any of that happens. Nobody who cares has the power to stop it.Stopping centralized power is very difficult and can pretty much only happen with a political revolution stopping mass centralization of power of both public and private parties. None of what I see happening in the short term. Anyone who has tried or will try it is silenced one way or another.
>>109481721nta but that is a viable option but i rather simply to use arch on mine
>>109481832So what should average users use, as a privacy respecting OS?
>>109482540GrapheneOS preferably for everything. Use desktop mode. Use the built-in terminal to run (GUI) GNU/Linux applications. Pretty much every FOSS applications can run on a GrapheneOS device.If you have to use x86 for any reason. Use a coreboot distribution like heads as boot firmware. Use an operating system like secureblue or qubesos.To be fair. Not a single operating system can be set-up privately by an "average" user. So you'd need someone that has enough knowledge to set it up for them and instruct them how to use it in a way that ensures their privacy and security. This goes much further than the operating system and even base applications. It's the services that are the biggest hurdle.The entire relationship with technology needs to change for average people to have a private computing experience where they are in control. Education needs to change. Technical support systems need to change. Stores and vendors need to change.There is no demand for it right now. People just buy what is available. Use the services that are presented and advertised to them. Associate themselves with people who do and think the same way. Distance themselves with weirdos who don't go with that flow.As long as that is the case. Nothing will change, and the power structure will stay the same.
>>109466068a glowie posted this thread
>>109482974It's just not convenient. >Switching between profiles>Having to use a browser for everything to minimize apps>Ruined warranty of phone and for what? to keep google from showing a lawn mower ad after I searched for new lawn mowers?
>>109483047 >Switching between profilesPerfect is the enemy of good. You don't need different profiles for everything. While it's preferred for proprietary malware, just using an actual private OS with a lot of permission control helps a lot.>Having to use a browser for everything to minimize appsA browser is prefered. You can make it more convenient by pinning web apps. It doesn't have to be a hassle.>Ruined warranty of phone A Google Pixel keeps it warranty when a third party OS is installed.>and for what? to keep google from showing a lawn mower ad after I searched for new lawn mowers?That's just a direct effect you see. There are many more both on an individual level but more so on a societal level. Downplaying that doesn't help anyone.
>>109483131>That's just a direct effect you see. There are many more both on an individual level but more so on a societal level. Downplaying that doesn't help anyone.Then explain why I should be overly concerned? I see a lot of talk about using Graphene, but no one has yet explained exactly WHY we should be using it - other than (((they))) are spying on you!! Ok.... what exactly is going to happen if they (((they know))) I watch YT videos, buy shit off eBay, where I went Saturday afternoon,, or shitpost on 4Chan?I'd be more than willing to consider switching, but I am not going to out of some unspoken boogieman.
>>109483047>Stop caring about privacy goyim
>>109483320The problem isn't if or when someone knows you do something. It's about you being in control of what you share and with whom. You can close the curtains of your home. You can't close any curtains on a device you don't own. GrapheneOS just gives you power and control, like you have in your own home. If you want to give access to everything on your device to every application you install, you can do so! Nobody is stopping you to share anything with anyone. But only you decide who has access to what, and nobody else.When you use the stock OS, you give Google and others way more access than you are really aware of. There are people in your home continuously examining you and everything that happens and sharing it with the entire world, without you even knowing what is going on.
>>109466068Works on my machine,
At this point GrapheneOS is the mark of the pedo.It is 100% compromised at the provider level and serves as a honeypot, if you have GrapheneOS, you are doing the opposite of hiding.
>>109483627source?
>>109468341It's jet a fact though you make a good point and observation. They are very cultish
>>109483540What UI is that?
>>109484004Olauncher
>>109483047Kek angry glow nigger
>>109477496>The safer approach is not to do bad things"Bad things" are redefined every day, retard
>>109477352>In the US is it a crime to destroy evidence even if there was no crime or even a real investigation.>All they need to show is that they were maybe gonna do an investigation and that you deleted something.This can't be real, right?I mean you guys have guns. What are they good for if cops can just fuck you over like that?
>>109483047>>Ruined warranty of phoneYou doomposters are really out of arguments huh
>>109470283A majority of white males, aged 45-64 without a college degree.
>>109466068>He already proved in 2018 he will destroy signing keys and brick thousands of users devices on purpose when he feels wronged.Sounds like a good thing.Daniel for president?
Oh my fucking god I just want a normal computer that fits in my pocket. Why is there all this extra bullshit from Qualcomm, google, and jewish trans people?
>>109487061Because ARM is not x86
>>109466068>You would have no way to know what was added.Maybe we should just use the proprietary OS from faggots who just give everything to big daddy govt without a warrant.
>>109476528>anom, made in australiaAus feds can 100% and will coerce dev to backdoor. they have done this previously with many small time devs.>canuck intelligence leaves this guy alonethis is the same country who famously said 25 years ago:>"We're Canada. We have like three tanks and a rusty boat. What are we going to contribute to the war on terror?">Chinese phonesbanned by feds because the hardware outperforms the three majors and still does (samsung, apple, google). This is exactly why they banned Huawei. My P30 Pro still shits all over modern pixel 10s apart from the curved screen.
>>109476771The old rule applies:>the heavier the shilling, generally, the more worried they are about it (or something adjacent, in which case they noising the primary target as a disinfo bomb)
>>109477208The one and only way.
>>109466400Then why are there so many bot posts trying to discredit it? Sure seems like a coordinated effort. This is pretty obvious because they never propose a better alternative, telling people not to use a security tool because it's not perfect has a net negative on overall security if the alternative is to go back to stock android.
>>109487425Yep not a single usable alternative has been proposed by any of the people talking shit, that's the mark of a glownigger
>>109466068Oh boy another glowie well poisoning thread about GraphineOSDidn't bump btw
>>109468341>literally no other topic in open source software or private software or what have you has this kind of combativenessfucking what?
>>109469102>The average American adult only reads at about a 6th grade level.4th grade, actually.
>>109466068God controls everything. Don't get deluded. Everything that happens in your life is for your own good. Don't be afraid.
>>109468341It is true and it puts me off to the point I just use an iPhone now The way he behaves is very odd and I get that people usually that smart and dedicated to doing something for free usually have some extreme neurodivergent difficulty but he's almost on another level of high functioning toxic autism You need to crack the whip as the head of the FOSS project because you constantly have a lot of people below you that make it their mission to pull the project another way and don't know what they are doing but him just insulting anyone that says anything other than something positive about GOS is just borderline insane. It is hard to deny though aspects of the project are miles ahead and better than anything else Any other rom almost universally has the flaw where you can flash an update through TWRP to bypass android security because there is no bootloader locking, even on Pixels and Oneplus where the ability is there the developers just ignore it. This is a small thing GOS supports that makes it different and its very easy to understand which I think is why it has the following it does, there is no other custom rom that even comes close to a secure yet stock experience on Android.
>>109487864but i did it desu.
>>109483631He got off his meds and hallucinated it.
>>109476798my opinion exactly
i trust the graphene schizo more than the big tech pedossimple as
>>109477109It's not.>Verification is not required.
