So turns out the guy contracting me lied and he did report what he paid to IRS, now I owe $110k. How can I pay this off? I do have my main job as Senior Software Engineer in a F500, but there is no way I can pay that lump sum without defaulting on my house. Any tips??

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i sometimes get auditory hallucinations as I fall asleep and last night i started hearing one of my indian coworkers speaking their broken english

will I ever escape this nightmare

>>109474765
You broke the law, now you pay. Simple as.

What is the data engineering field like lately? I was laid off 2 years ago and haven’t kept up at all. but I need to get my skills back up for job hunting soon.

>>109474765
>indian spamming reddit reposts again

>>109468757
been thinking of studying economy, sociology or electrical engineering/techinician and do solar shit (maybe even with my own money).

>>109474747
Jarvis? jerk it a little

>>109474786
saar do the needful and approve my PR

>>109474765
You're a retarded criminal who trusted a criminal not to rat you out. Build a time machine, go back in time, and make sure you save the taxes you owe so when the IRS comes calling you have their money.

>>109474747
Diogenes said that a poor person and a rich person can't be friends, because the rich person will give money to the poor person, then he won't be poor.

This extends to life.

Is Musk your friend? Are you poor, and is he rich?

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Why's the job market so terrible? I got my most recent full time job after 8 months of applying. I want to bail after trying this out, and there are barely any internal roles as opposed to external consulting which I hate. Still an application void, 2/20 result in a thanks but no thanks, remainder just dead end. Dread.

>>109475389
Because the elites have fully opened the immigration and offshoring floodgates, with software engineering being possibly the easiest discipline to offshore (when you disregard quality and productivity)

Are you tired of winning yet?

>>109475407
Software eng has been jeeted for decades. I'm in "cybersecurity" and been doing this a long time. In consulting there are so many clients where I just want to work there instead, I miss the ownership and depth. Losing my mind covering the same shit with infinity clients though I try to spice it up. I still care but that is wearing super thin. Personally I blame the jews.

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>>109474747
He forgot that rich people aren't complete unhinge hypocrite either.
They all become liberal leftist for a simple reason: It's safer to pretend everyone is your "friend".

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>tfw
>literally me
OoO on Friday. Guys, it's my first time leaving office for more than a day or two for sick leave. I almost want to message all coworkers, but that'd be cringe

>>109474827
Good.

>>109474799
Terrible unless you've got at least seven years experience and kept current
For a start its moved away from heavy coded solutions like pyspark notebooks, to SQL wrangling
And you'll probably need experience with either Snowflake or Databricks

But the main problem is that DEing has become heavily jeetified, what roles haven't been eliminated from the switch to low-code solutions have largely been outsourced.

>>109475389
It took me over a year and half to get a new role, and I had to give up the track I was working towards and do something different.

I know it's just culture related but I swear every job on the market feels like garbage.
>Dev?
Still have to do BA/PM/SM work for some fucking god damn reason.
>Data?
Still have to do BA/PM/SM and maybe some operational work for some god damn fucking reason.
>PM
lol I have no idea why'd you willingly want to work as a PM unless you're a fucking loser.
>Devops
honorary PM because your PM is useless and still have to do operational work and do BA stuff.

>>109477435
>>Data?
>Still have to do BA/PM/SM and maybe some operational work for some god damn fucking reason.
And dashboards

It’s simple, how do I maximise income and minimise effort?

>>109477460
It's simple but not easy

>>109477460
Middle management

>have job interview for C/C++ embedded role
>asks me a quick series of questions, no programming
>tells me that for such a role I need to know extremely low level stuff like how to implement stack guards in software or DMA
>since I'm more high level I should learn Rust
wtf bros, do I have to become a Rust tranny?

>>109477450
I mean dashboards is kinda your main thing tho lol. That's what I'm talking about. It's your main thing + also somehow complete retarded shit because team gotta stay "agile" (I don't think they know what this means) and lean.

first day on my new job which was a 50% salary bump from my previous and Im quitting using zyns. life is tough but we are going to make it.

>>109474747
beautiful digits but I prefer the linkedin posts equating linux commands to sock drawers

I got out of help desk and now work in a NOC at an insurance company but is it weird that I kinda miss getting to touch a little bit of everything? My current job is mostly running tests, keeping my eyes glued to a dynatrace dashboard for alerts from Kubernetes clusters, and calling on call engineers

>>109477538
Not really, dashboards belong to the BIs - aka the front end scrubs of the data world
One of the main reasons I went into data was to get away from front end work, I'd rather do the operations work than charts and graphs

>>109477538
>>109477396
>data
>data engineering
Fuck, the comfy (non-analyst) data roles of 10 years ago were safe from dashboarding and no/low-code. I spent my first two years after college writing data integrations in python and scheduling with cron, running on an on-prem linux server. It was the peak of comfy freedom. That job is dead now because of no code software like Stitch or low-code like azure data factory, and the nu-data roles are expected to use the time “saved” to troubleshoot dashboards. Fuck. And the comfy job that administrated the on-prem linux server is dead too because of AWS/azure. Fuck. Everything is soulless pointing and clicking and editing config files now. It feels like the party is over

>>109474799
As much as I loved Databricks in like 2021, now it feels well on its way to being just a standardized modern warehouse and it’s less glamorous desu.
Depends on what you mean by data engineer also - most jobs with this title are basic bitch pipeline builders who are always under pressure by latest tooling or cheap labor. Real data engineers are working with high volume realtime telemetry driven systems or designing frameworks for massively scaled data movement or system integration, but these jobs are definitely much rarer. I wouldn’t get into it unless you can find the latter

>>109477482
Manager told me he was grooming me to take over his spot in a few years, but don’t think I want to stay in this turbojeeted (95% of the department) hellhole that long

>>109474747
why do tech bros not understand capitalism? dunning kruger or just mental retardation, you decide

>>109478077

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>Company jumps on the AI bandwagon
>Layoffs left and right, people in every area getting let go, leaving only a few people behind
>Managed to stay safe somehow
>Fast forward a couple of months
>Company realizes that project delivery speed increased slightly, but the return on "implementing" AI is low compared to the amount of money invested
>Company decides to hire a bunch of Indians from another company
>Get told I will be let go in a couple of months, but I must train them first
>Talk to other coworkers with more than 8 years at the company
>They are getting layoff as well, but must train them first
Good bye /twg/, it was fun. I'll join my /utwg/ brothers in a couple of months.

>>109478156
>must train them first
Yeah, no. Quiet quit until they fire you.

>>109478156
>You’re getting laid off and you have to train your replacement
What if you just… didn’t?

>>109478156

>hiring Indians at a time when AI objectively does a better job of coding than they do

strange

>>109478169
>>109478178
We all agreed to just teach them basics so they don't start complaining, but that's it. Even our manager was like "just teach them basics, and that's it, let them fight on their own"

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>>109474747
>everyone is rich
>no one is rich
that's the same thing

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I applied to a political tech worker job managing dildos for politicians or something. I claimed to be non-binary and hispanic.

>>109477484
I'm so proud of you, sis. Time to put on those programming socks and Rustity belt.

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Another day of not reading plans or PRs I approve.

>>109478593

Good, PR tyrants must hang

>>109478593
Sounds comfy
>hey claude, do my job

>>109478242
Just quiet quit and let them complain to management then. What are they going to do? Fire you?

I miss quiet quitting, I wish I could quiet quit all the time

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offer came back 20k higher than I requested

>>109478304
doesnt work in the trump admin, u gotta be white, white-adjacent passing or jewish

>>109478188
Indians are cheaper than Anthropic enterprise

>>109479127
Not a single white person is getting hired right now.

>>109478178
Can't collect unemployment if you quit or get fired for misconduct

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Huh, I just noticed that Indians rarely if ever say thanks over chat for responding to their million requests and questions. The exception is if they're strangers or an external team, but coworkers on my same team literally never give thanks after being provided the information or doing the needful - to me or anyone else.

Hospital IT here. Why the fuck do doctors always buy macs?

>>109478242
Refuse to train them pussy

>>109479342
They can go into sterile environments since they don't get viruses :)

>>109479371
Kek

>>109478188
Indians are strongest programmers—with AI hand in hand Indians + AI are superpowers for business.

>>109479289
Why would you thank the AI?

>>109479289
fuck a thanks, I'd rather everybody hit the thumbs up emoji and move on
why the fuck should I thank somebody for doing their job?
why should they thank me? (unless it's a C-level executive of course, in which case I deserve all the thanks they can give)

>>109479450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtk_JYcu6O0

Types of job listing

>Government Waste Associate Analyst Junior Role II
>$18000-$20000 annually
>onsite in California
>hiring performed by reigning DEI kween or white male psychopath in suit, no inbetween

>SEC DOJ FMJ Department Associate of Federal Glowing
>requires PBJ-FTC-WTFBBQ Clearance Level 9-12
>dont even THINK about applying without that clearance we WILL gangstalk you
>doesn't really exist and will be hired internally by someone whose family has worked in government for the past 8 generations

>Vice President Senior Director IV
>some financial company you never heard of yet is obscenely wealthy
>requires 16 YOE
>also doesn't really exist and will be hired internally by old white woman for other old white woman

>Registered Medical Worker Person
>requires 4-8 years of extreme medical debt
>actually decent wage but you will live like shit anyway due to debt
>will work you to death so the final baby boomer throes are spent in peak comfort

>Computer Tech Admin Engineer
>dying H-1B bait position
>pseudo white collar crime, 80% less wages than advertised
>listing only put up to torture domestic computer science graduates
>doesn't really exist and will be filled by an indian manager's 180 relatives

>DEPARTMENT OF WAR (COAST GUARD)
>FUCK YEAR SIGN UP KID ITS THE ONLY REEL JERB OUT THERE N YEW KNOW IT
>BIG LETTERS JERB LISTING TXT BECAUSE MILITARY CRAYON-EATER WAS ASKED TO WRITE THIS (I CANT TURN IT OFF HELP ME)
>DIE FOR ISRAEL 60K SIGNON BONIS

>Crypto Currency Startup Scam
>so obviously fake and gay even Linkedin kicked them out
>"For a small startup fee of $200 you too can join our

>Ditch Digger
>exists in local newspaper nobody reads anymore
>somehow ended up on a job website due to unattended AI crawler
>lowest possible wage for any legal employment you could ever possibly have
>"manager" is some local town government bureaucrat who only shows up to make sure it's dug
>competing with 180 other candidates, half of whom have doctorates in moving soil

>>109479342
if im making 300k a year why would i buy a windows shitbox to read emails and make powerpoints?

I haven't worked yet this week. Meeting with my manager in 3 hours.

>>109479540
Did you just not show up or was there a reason

>>109479342
Macs are a luxury good and doctors can afford them
>better touchpad
>better screen
>better chassis
>better CPU
>better battery life
>OS that doesn't force updates on you and restart when you are trying to work
Remember that for non-tech people, the choice is between Mac and Windows, which isn't even close.

I haven't worked at a single place since 2019 where anybody had anything but MBPs.

>>109479526
>>109479564
>Work for a hospital that only supports windows
>Get authorized to WFH
>Must use software used by the facility
>I'lL bUy a mAC
Congrats faggot, nobody can remote to your device if shit breaks and you'll have to bring it on campus.

how do i explain to the hr roastie that the amphetamine use is for leanmaxxing, not because im an addict?

>>109479526
trvke

>>109479582
sounds like a you problem, remoting into a mac has been around forever. sorry youre shit at your job.

>>109479601
Job doesn't allow it due to security vulnerabilities.

>>109479582
Dumb Winjeet who doesn't know how to remote into a Mac
I've had IT remote into my Mac at multiple different companies.

Middle and Seniors devs, what are we doing stay relevant after AI coding replaces most of us?

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>>109479624
Trying my damndest to be part of the 20% who are irreplaceable.

>>109479589
Just lie. Women are easy to manipulate.
>*shoulders slumped, head down a bit, weak voice*
>I’ve dealt with [depression from childhood trauma] for my entire life and adderall helps me cope with my daily struggle
you can insert literally any modern psych diagnosis in there

>>109479549
no reason, just don't care and can't focus

>>109479658
only works if you're a minority

>>109479624
As long as someone on the business side can't use AI to oneshot business requirements into complex software systems, dev jobs are safe. Once AI can do that, we've reached AGI anyway and Palantir will kill us all.

>>109479634
How are you doing this?

>>109479682
Are there any Palantir anons here? I hear a lot about this company but I haven't seen anything real besides rumours they are creating some 4D chess megamind processes.

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>>109479658
>it's for my depression

>>109474747
what a dumb picture

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shit, i might have screwed myself a bit.
during the HR interview i asked for the lower half of the salary range they listed.
to be fair, their listed salary range is head and shoulders above the other listings i'm seeing, but i didn't remember it was that high.

i didn't have much hope, but it seemed to me i didn't give the HR broad the ick this time


>>109479518
you guys are getting salary ranges?
in my listings it's a 50/50 if they even put a range.
if they do, they have a highballing range in the listing metadata and then a much, much lower one in the text itself.

also due to EU shit there's like 20 lines of boilerplate text nobody cares about

>>109479612
>Job doesn't allow it due to security theater
Ftfy

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>>109474747
I want to know if this is seems normal or not
>Programmed a decent bit in highschool
>For college majored in computer science specialized in algorithms and neural networks (right before the AI boom)
>Got a job working for government as an "engineer" did almost no programming except to make tools for myself to make my job easier
>Because that job eventually turned into basically just pushing paperwork I transferred to a different government job, as the layoffs were still going on so I still wanted to keep job security
>Now I'm a senior appdev so my skills aren't completely going to waste
>But I've lost a ton of motivation in general to just program for fun especially with all the AI slop vibe coding everywhere and most tech news just makes me miserable
Is this something normal? Tech burnout or some shit?

>>109478077
>capitalism
this word has no meaning anymore

>>109479289
stop responding.

>>109479890
good morning

>>109479890
I don't care about programming, I just like completing tasks. This is how I keep myself sane with the ever-changing toolset.

>>109479678
Not true at all. for most women, if you can activate their maternal instinct they will pity you like their surrogate child and let you get away with almost anything.

Seems normal to me, we're all slops

>>109479923
good morning to you too

>>109479929
That is shockingly good advice thinking about it. Though I sorta hate the forced AI usage even governments are doing, and the part that isn't annoying is just dulling out my skills. But taking your approach is probably a much better way of thinking of things

One of (the many things) I find shit about working in the UK is the lack of overtime pay, by law employers are not required to pay for overtime
Not as in pay an enhanced rate, I mean literally Noseberg can make you work beyond your hours and not pay you a penny so long as your end monthly pay meets minimum.
I know Ameri-golems probably don't see the issue with this, but we have Europoor salaries and at least France and I think Germany have mandatory overtime payments

I wonder if anyone has successfully petitioned a CTO or COO to get rid of the QA department? Those guys are fully redundant in the AIDLC. Literally no point in talking with them, and considering they're 99% Indian or Central Asian, I don't think we're harming local jobs by blowing them away.

>>109479994
>at least France and I think Germany have mandatory overtime payments
No we don't. Our contracts just say you have to work 40h + Xh per week for Y pay. Alternatively you get can work less hours later.

>>109479994
Would be nice but honestly I don't see the current trade-off as unfair. Not tracking my hours worked goes both ways.

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AI code is pure trash. The only way to get decent code out of AI is to read it and review it with the same scrutiny as stackoverflow snippets. Some AI shills are just happy that they can quiet quit while looking productive to management, while others are genuinely retarded. Society will eventually realize that agentic coding is a retarded concept

I gotta be honest guys I'm just burnt out and tired.

>>109480208
This comment has been repeated word for word since 2023 yet no code base has collapsed and there is no 6-month later fallout over unmaintainable repos. I wonder why that is

>>109479994
jesus christ, i'd kill myself if that was the case.
i mean, if you only do 20m out of your own volition they won't pay in my country either.
but if it's a specific request from your boss it's overtime

>>109480374
anything remitely important is not vibe coded

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>find security issue in our product accidentally
>report it like a good goy
>now I have to work extra fixing it
fuck off

>>109480423
>work extra
take your time then. say it's a complicated issue and it's going to be a while

>>109480374
NTA but to me this is simply because end users don't really care either way.
Either the product is low effort to begin with (like social media apps) or there's sufficient lock-in (your car insurance app) that you can't really do anything about it if specific use cases are broken.

>>109480399
Only about 0.1% of software is actually important

>>109474765
>Any tips??
kys, maybe? nypa and certainly not interested in helping jeet criminal scum.

>>109480463
>nypa
not your papa?

>>109474799
>What is the data engineering field like lately?
>I need to get my skills back up for job hunting
Don't bother; you're not getting hired in this job market.

>>109479890
yes, this is normal
but it might not be burnout for you yet; many people don't want to do their same job as a hobby

>>109480435
It's not actively exploited but I also have my other epic before the code freeze for the release and everyone is on vacation since it's August
Well I'm going on PTO next week too, so only this week is suffering

>>109475407
>Because the elites have fully opened the immigration and offshoring floodgates, with software engineering being possibly the easiest discipline to offshore (when you disregard quality and productivity)
this is exactly what i voted for. all of you learn-to-code shitlibs deserve to be on the breadline.

>>109477484
yes because the cheap jeets they want to hire don't know rust yet and need someone to keep the seat warm.

>>109478242
>We all agreed to just teach them basics
What "basics"? Are you retards teaching these people how to code?

>>109479189
They're all getting hired in the aeronautical industry.

>>109478869
how's the RTO policy?

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I fucked up big time not leaving here when I had the chance. I have barely learned anything in the past 3 years. I'm nowhere near the skill level I expected to have with almost 7 years of experience, which puts me on a tight position to change jobs. On top of that I genuinely don't give a fuck about this anymore, I have no motivation, I'm burned out, I've been slacking off for months and I think it's just a matter of time before they fire me.
Also I'm getting drunk on a daily basis.
Thanks for reading my blog.

>>109480470
lurk moar

>it's another intern presentation about some AI work flow that no one will use at worst and will be irrelevant due to updated tools in a few months at best
I don't careeeeeeeeeee

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>>109478156

>>109478156
Why would they tell you this, that sounds made up or the most retarded managers in the world. Smells like bullshit desu

>>109480531
5 days in office :^)

>>109480546
fu

>>109480775
I love attending AI agent presentations
>Saars look if we provide this Jira story that's written like a prompt from a developer it does the needful perfect with gorgeous looks!
Meanwhile it's a Sisyphean task to get POs to not clone stories or copy paste emails into the acceptance criteria.

>>109480545
I almost feel happy about being fullstack.

>>109479994
>at least France and I think Germany have mandatory overtime payments
Depends on the company but usually you're not paid. However, there is a limit to the number of overtime that you cannot exceed. Also, overtime is usually compensated by taking time off.

>>109480374
>yet no code base has collapsed and there is no 6-month later fallout over unmaintainable repos
You mean like Microslop who are unable to implement a feature for moving the taskbar?

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Any pointers on finding IT work outside the US, without dual citizenship?

>>109474765
9mm aspirin

>>109480910
Some work places have good middle managers who try to be open and honest with their employees about what's going on at a higher level. It's possible this was communicated "unofficially" ahead of layoffs, to try and give employees more notice to start finding new jobs instead of the no-notice terminations that executives are fond of.

>>109481544
>no-notice terminations that executives are fond of
That might leak out of the company and impact their bottom line though. Won't someone think of them?

>>109474747
Who is this OP that keeps posting rage-baiting linkedin articles? Get a life, OP. Go back to utwg.

>>109481634
Good guy supervisor knows he's next, so no point keeping it a secret.

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>>109474747
>want everyone to be rich
>behave as the only person earth, accumulating all the power and resources while, emptying everyone's wallets, shutting everyone out, pulling up the ladder, and slitting their throats

pick one, bootlicker

this is one of many instances where a rich person says to you "give me everything, and I'll let you breathe another hour" with their hand on your throat

>>109481682
Poor person detected

>>109481682
Poor person detected

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>>109477422
That is depressing. Took me half of that to get out of where I was to where I am, and that's because the previous team completely burnt out. I'm getting there in a month's time.Need to go but there's nothing. Rather, there is but they are fake jobs (greenhouse is all fake I don't care) or jobs posted deliberately because they always had an internal candidate selected,or just testing the market. I look at descriptions posting no salary, do the application and always know answering your salary requirements and that you're not a crippled niggerfaggot takes you off the board.

>>109478077
People can say things without meaning anything or believing in what they say.

>>109480545
Sounds like the path I'm on. I'm just about a year behind you, being deadweight at a boomer company for 2 years now
Cheers

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How do I not be depressed? I've already tried not being depressed, but it didn't work.

>>109476433
not really sure.
what do economists and sociologists even do? I feel like I wouldn't do shit without nepotism in those fields
also, I think I'm too old to be a electrician. I'd do it just to know what I'm investing in.

>>109481965
For me it's escapism and booze.

>>109480071
Ah but you see, some companies do track hours, even salaried workers
And even if they don't have a proper tracking system you'll have a manager noticing your comings and goings, not to mention all your toady coworkers that can't wait to dob you in to the teacher for brown noser points.
The last salaried job I had my boss started bitching about my start times because his boss was bitching at him, even though it hadn't been an issue with the previous three years.
I've never managed to work somewhere where you can rock up at whatever time, get the job done and fuck off home

The job that triggered my post was an hourly rate job not a salaried one
And it was a reduced hours one, so seeing a no compensation for working additional time past the set hours makes alarm bells ring.


>>109481393
Getting the time back would atleast be an acceptable compromise

>>109481753
My biggest mistake was probably trying to stick with a dead horse instead of admitting I wasn't fit for the current market and look for something else
My second biggest mistake was mainly using LinkedIn job ads

>>109474765
What did you do with all the income?

>>109481965
Motorcycle.

>>109474765
Get on a payment plan of course
>i dunno, three dollas?

>>109482097
>The job that triggered my post was an hourly rate job not a salaried one
Oh, well in the US it's national law that non-salaried positions require overtime pay (at least 1.5x) for any time worked over 40 hours a week. Surprised that bongs would have worse compensation laws than us.

>>109482177
i spent it all on whores

>>109482324
We have a combination of the worse of American and worse of European work culture, and then sprinkle our own little flakes of shite on top

>>109482354
Somebody has to pay for that NEETbux. Thank you for your service!

>Held a top-secret NDA device today
It feels so cool to be in the secret club

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I hope my bonus will reach 6 figures this year

>5:59pm time to call anon for a nothing-task that could've been done tomorrow :D

>>109482741
Oh it will
$1111.11

>>109482556
>TS work
Hope you enjoy sitting in a windowless room with no cell phone or outside internet all day, every day; and having to report every little detail of all your vacations to a security officer.

>>109482866
>9:00:00.0001 AM
>Hi anon, good morning

>>109481965
for me, it's olympic weightlifting and gymnastics

>>109483141
is that what the pentagon is actually like? couldnt be true

bitches be like
>i love traveling!!
and then the actual travel is 7 hour flights bored out of your mind, getting your connecting flight delayed at the airport, having to sit with your finger up your ass waiting to pick up your luggage, and $30 airport burgers

>>109483439
Nta, I didn't work in the Pentagon (I did visit for meetings many times) but yeah pretty much. Though, to be specific, it's not ALL your vacations, just the ones that involve leaving the country. Also, you need to report any time you meet a foreigner for more than a few moments. The no cell or internet is generally true, though I was in a role where I did have internet access. I also had to report my financial status yearly (account balances, loans, credit cards, etc...)

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>apply to jobs
>get burnt out
>take a week of vacation to do some projects around the house
>have 3 interviews scheduled for the week I'm on vacation
>don't actually get a vacation since I have to prepare and travel for interviews
this is bullshit I've been applying for 3 months and I just HAVE to get them when I finally get some time to relax. If I get a job I'm asking for 3 weeks and just putting in 2 weeks notice so I can chill.

>>109483439
I never worked in the Pentagon myself, just the midwest (keeping it vague for obvious reasons) but that is the firm expectation for any SCIF or Open Storage facility that deals with classified documents. If you touch classified stuff like once a week for a few hours at a time, then you might get away with just leaving your phone in a locker occasionally. If you work in something like an operations or intelligence center, you'll be expected to leave your phone in your car (locker if you're lucky) and never have it on your person throughout the workday. Some places will have NIPR (unclassified) computers with strictly content-filtered and actively monitored internet, while others will be completely airgapped with no outside communication. Complete lack of windows, absolutely no electronic devices (USB, camera, radio, etc), strict rules on telephone access, armed military officer at entrance, and a swath of other restrictions are all standard, strict, non-negotiable requirements in places dealing with classified information.

For vacations, I was told that we have a briefing meeting both before and after with a designated security officer with access to my clearance file, to keep a permanent record. I never traveled on this job, but as I recall, every minute of every day had to be accounted for, and justified. You are also legally required to report medical history and changes, financial status (new credit cards), sometimes financial/medical status of family members or anyone else living with you, and pretty much everyone you know and interact with on a regular basis. The interesting thing is you're required to report things like if you smoke weed (and can lose your job for it), but because it's illegal to withhold anything, they can't criminally charge you for anything you report via this channel.

Aren't you just super excited to embrace this super secretive lifestyle? I hope you enjoy completing your form SF-86.

>>109479518
How many coasties do you really think are dying for Israel?

>>109483579
>I never traveled on this job, but as I recall, every minute of every day had to be accounted for, and justified.
That's not what I experienced, though we were probably at different agencies (I did have TS/FSP + SAP). They only wanted to know countries, cities, dates. Then afterwards, I had to answer a questionnaire about whether I had any weird encounters with anyone or if I went off my planned itinerary. I only ever traveled to Canada while I was cleared, so maybe that's why it was relatively easy for me.
I'm glad I don't have to deal with that shit anymore though.

>>109483579
so... i cant bring my macbook and play factorio? :(

So am I right to assume that 90% of what I hear about "ai agents" in the context of development is pure fantasy?

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>>109483579
Sounds like a pain in the ass. Why would anyone want to put themselves through this?

>>109483890
I almost did when I was desperate for a job but I was too scared of the polygrapher so I rescinded and stayed at mom's house for another half a year

>>109483890
money

>>109483903
>polygrapher
This is what gets me. Fuck that noise man.

>>109483903
People will do a lot if they need the money. I was going on 3 years unemployment post graduation, with like a month left before my student loan deferral ran out. Clearance jobs also usually pay a little more because fewer people are eligible, but ironically I took an entry level customer support job for the state and ended up making more than my clearance job paid at opening salary. I don't miss it.
>>109483606
I never did end up traveling while on that job (couldn't afford luxuries, and worried it would risk my clearance), and it was like 10 years ago, so whatever you went through is probably the actual norm. I'm just speaking off memory of what they told me, as best as I understood it at the time.

>>109483984
Meant to quote >>109483890 instead.

How do I stop feeling like a complete failure at life being nearly 40 with 15 yoe as a swe, still making low 6 figures, and have never even had an interview at fagman or any kind of notable company?

>>109483890
No jeets

>>109484033
low 6 figures is still plenty of money man, I feel like a king making $70k

>>109484033
fagman interviews are torture dude holy fuck they chain you up a wall and drill screws into you

>>109479929
even if the tasks are clearly lame and fundamentally meaningless? (making powerpoints)

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>>109483579
should I do this for 200k a year?
you guys weren't joking btw the onboarding is humiliating

>>109483141
there are lots of windows where i work. i just cant bring my gf into the office anymore

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Goon All Day Friday

I talk mad shit about our parent company outsourcing their IT to India and having to communicate with with like 50 dudes who I can barely understand with names that sound like someone just slammed on a keyboard but I'll be damned if one of the indian girls from their team that I was working 1 on 1 with on teams today didn't have me a little smitten. She was drop dead gorgeous and very sweet. Every message I sent her after she put a heart on and my heart fluttered a little bit ngl. Oh well maybe in another life.

Fuck it it's Friday I'm gonna work remote in bed all day.

genuinely bizarre actually meeting jeets irl. all of the stereotypes are true. why the fuck do they show up to interviews in sandals? why do they always smell? why the fuck do they walk around airports barefoot?

is this general still about delusional grads whining about how $300k is not enough to live on

>>109485108
nope, it went the other way around, claiming grads are lucky if they get a job in the industry

>>109485192
it's really funny if you were in college during the flip since you saw these types who did and learned nothing but were very arrogant convinced the second the diploma was handed to them they'd be living like Jay Gatsby and then at the very end they just turned into pure panic

>>109483579
Fuck that

>>109481420
That's from slop written before AI
t. work at microslop

>>109480374
>yet no code base has collapsed and there is no 6-month later fallout over unmaintainable repos
my phone carrier had an app that worked for 10 years and their new vibe coded one it's a 25% chance the log in screen is functioning on a given day

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>the fun event this quarter is an escape room

>>109485264
>wahh wahh i hate zoomers
kill all millennoids

>>109486088
Some girl at my company did
>her degree
>hired on some development program where you switch roles every year
>is now a solution architect at the ripe old age of 25
I wish I had it as hard as women in the work place desu

i fucking hate my bosses

Gentle reminder to burn the tokens you are not going to use today

>>109486411
Why tho? Why use them if they are not needed? Some of my colleagues do this too at the end of each month and I don't get it

>>109486517
Managers have stats of your token usage and will rate your "contribution" based on that

i don’t want work-life balance. i want no meetings with anyone who says “circle back” or "lets connect"

People are talking about having to "stop ai before it ruins the economy" yet don't do anything about eastern euro trash and pajeets taking our jobs.

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>Get a PR review request
>Too lazy and the PR is small enough so I just skim through it and approve
>10 mins later a coworker jumps in and leaves a comment about an obviously wrong thing
>I could have spotted it if I spent 2 mins actually reading the code
This happened multiple times and makes me feel like I'm the next one on the chopping block

>>109486551
How common are those slogans in real life?

>>109486556
Lol nice of your coworker not to tell you directly but publicly humiliate you...

>>109486551
>i don’t want work-life balance

Everyone has a balance between his work and the rest of his life. You work during the office hours and you do the rest outside of office hours. No need to make a big thing out of it. But I guess they use it as a meme phrase to pay less money

>>109486551
I work with jeets and while they have a million retarded phrases, those aren't one of them

>>109486591
Legit Jeet phrases:

>do the needful
>at your earliest convenience
>show stopper
>"ping" someone
>as I already answered...

They also leave out a lot of prepositions or what they're called in written communication, making their emails seem like they were written by someone who is retarded

never trust your boss

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>>109486551
>mfw i don't actively use these terms, but can switch to corporate mode if needed with little effort
one time i used the word "actionable" when trying to convince the big boss about doing something my way and it worked

>>109486869
Words to live by.

Also never trust anyone else at work or in life in general but especially at work as it's your livelihood

>>109486578
>and you do the rest outside of office hours.
The only things I do outside of work are logistics to support me working and sleeping. I hardly even have side projects these days.

Thankfully I like my job. I'd probably go insane if I didn't.
>>109483579
I don't even own a phone. Everything that touches the phone network, all the software, it's so disgusting. It's like television but worse. I feel better when I forget phones exist.

>>109486959
>The only things I do outside of work are logistics to support me working and sleeping. I hardly even have side projects these days.

You work 365 days a year then? Cool

>>109486607
I've only heard do the needful twice in 2 years but don't sit in many jeet on jeet meetings to be fair
Tose I hear all the time:
>I can able to
>even I can (seems to simply mean I can)

>>109486967
No but I pretty much just sleep all weekend unless I have errands to run.

>>109486976
That's probably a good practice. Getting that vitamin Z

Goon morning twg i have started nooooticing a lot of namefigs on /g/ who are tonedeaf to chan culture and have a massive jeetboner for AI anyway please do the needful and kindly quick call

>>109487000
>Goon morning twg
Already gooned you guys are hours behind me.

>>109487000
There isn't a single corner of the internet that is not full of spammers and bots.

>>109487157
Of course, im simply noooticing these for the first time

>>109485062
>She was drop dead gorgeous and very sweet. Every message I sent her after she put a heart on and my heart fluttered a little bit ngl.
At risk of sounding like an incel, some pretty women try to manipulate you with their looks, don't fall for it.

>>109487242
I fall for it on purpose and do it back to them because i love being manipulated

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>>109481871
How do you think it's gonna end for you anon?

>>109487265
Ok based

>>109479289
I'm not Indian but I usually just react with thanks or something and never say it, sounds retarded to ping someone again just to say thanks

>>109481871
Same here, currently looking for a different job so I don't turn into >>109487269.

>>109478869
I thought this was charlie kirk for a good 10 seconds then realized it was family guy. I seriously have some degree of face blindness

>>109487290
He does look like Charlie Kirk.
>>109487265
You have to be willing to go all the way if you do this. If you stop short they'll flip out and report everything you ever said to HR.

>>109487326
I openly flirt with directors in various departments 3 steps higher in the management ladder idgaf

>>109487289
Yep, me too. The thing is my skillset is not up to date.
My best bet right now is trying to find a not so well paying job outside of my country (Spain) that actually pays decently considering my current salary.

>>109484599
depends? is it interesting work? maybe just do it for 5 years

On one hand I'm feeling less like AI is going to take my job these days. On the other hand I'm still burnt out and want to go back to school for some kind of trade.
Some little voice in the back of my head is telling me I'd probably hate that too.

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>>109474747
>he's guru posting again

>>109487398
NTA but why not freelance from Spain? Lots of companies are outsourcing to Spain, Romania, Bulgaria and shit.

>>109487816
i dont speak spanish

>>109487839
Why would you need Spanish if you work for foreign clients (e.g. Germany, Scandinavia, etc.)?

>>109487866
I don't speak german or scandinavian either though

>>109487816
I'd rather a stable contract, but I have to admit I know jack shit about freelancing. Do you know any website I could check for that kind of job offer?

>>109487875
Usually English is default and knowing their native language is a plus.

>>109487897
Try with https://hiringcafe.com/
You can create filters and choose "contract".

>>109487947
why is everything french

>>109486556
Just run it through claude first man

>>109487940
Germans hate English actually. Knowing German is a huge plus. It’s whatever in Scandinavia, they all speak fluent English there

niggas really go to the Bahamas but still respond in the teams group chat on like a 30 minute delay

>>109487947
I'll give it a shot, thanks.

>working comfy web remote job
>friend says that they are still looking for a C++ programmer to join a embedded position at his nuclear company
>it's only 15 min drive
>but you have to work there instead of remote for obvious reasons (both coprorate and cause the work is done inhouse understandable).
>they're slowly increasing the bid price toward 150K

I make 130K remote right now. How much more will they have to pay to move me? Be advised, I'm senior level at this point but they really are desperate.

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>other devs pester you to approve their thousand line slop changes instantly with no actual code review
>tfw it usually takes them over an hour to approve a property file update for a preprod environment when I send it to them for review
I've started to get incredibly frustrated with all the other developers on the team because most of them have just given up. Copilot didn't generate all the code you need? Ship it and say the non functioning part is a "defect". Deployments bottlenecked by the single person that does testing? Add an extra layer of testing. Copilot can't give you the answer from the copy pasted stack trace? Call the senior engineer (me) that already has to do planning and prototyping on top of hearing the AI psychosis management has descended into
Every other senior engineer wised up and left but I stuck it out and it's just eternal punishment at this point
>>109486551
Anon can we have quick connect?

>>109488446
15 min drive means 30-45, minutes total commute. I personally hate remote work, seems like a dream.

>>109488494
I love it. I get to do whatever I want during downtimes, and no commute is the best thing in the world. Too many retarded drivers out there, especially where I am.

But it'll take at least 160K or more to get me interested. 200K would be the kicker.

>>109488446
don't do it. the freedom of remote is worth way more. if you need more money get a side gig going.

>>109488549
If they offer 175 - 200K, it becomes good to me. And that's in the south.

>>109488583
go in for the interview and leverage a potential offer for a nice raise at your remote job

>>109488294
If you're above a manager, I think you'd need to respond. Managers? sometimes, depending on the situation of things when you left. Anything below that and you're responding out of office, you suck dicks as a hobby

>>109486551
Literally me except I want no meetings at all.
Just leave me clear instructions via email and never talk to me again until the job is done just like you would do with a hitman.

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Another week goes by.
Image sponsored by company ChatGPT plus.

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>bossman asking me to take time off so i don't accumulate vacation days, despite the fact that i've been doing quite literally nothing for 6 months at this point
>meanwhile i'm looking for a new job
i mean, i'll take them i guess. the guy is pretty chill and it's not like i need them anyways

If you were only expected to work 30 hours a week, would you choose to do four normal days or five shorter days?

>>109488698
>it's not delivery, it's deployed
not too fond of AI slop, bit i chuckled at this

>>109488814
4 normal days, especially if it's a medium to long commute.
for fully remote i can see it going either way

>>109488814
Preferably 4 days, but 100% the company would want 5 days. Flexibility might be necessary.

>>109488814
I already do 5 shorter days anyways so I'd definitely take 4 normal

>>109488808
take two weeks.

>>109488607
I am due for a raise yes.

>>109487658
WEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLL

>>109486556
and you deserve it

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>>109488899
i could, but after several months APPARENTLY now some positions freed up and i might weasel my way in.
so i now have the chance to talk to the relevant guys and start doing stuff. no telling how long it will take to get a new job.

speaking of which
should i go for DBA support or Network support?

>>109483863
yes

>>109488996
Network

why do jeets think it's appropriate to walk around in public barefoot or in flip flops?

>>109489066
>why are third worlders acting like third workers

>>109489066
>>109489140
I want to know the answer too. To make it more general:
Why don't third-worlders wear boots/shoes?
It is not because of money, a good pair of boots lasts 10 years at least.

>>109489170
they're just stupid. thats really the answer

>>109489197
They are retarded mongoloid niggers that, as a society, never amounted to anything. The eat cow shit and drink piss and you wonder why they won't wear normal shoes.

trying to call me on teams without my consent should be a fireable offense

>>109489257
shut up, wagie, and answer the call

>>109489261
i'm busy, can't talk now. trying me later? still busy, sorry. maybe monday.

>>109474747
i am 29 and my net worth is just about 600k
i have no major assets besides a car which doesnt really count so i didnt include it
is this ok, mediocre, or bad? i really can't tell.

>>109489066
flip flops aren't even in the same league. walking around barefoot is genuinely unhinged behavior.

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>24
>just breaking 200k a year starting next month
Alexander won his first battle at 16
my life is over.

>>109488836
>for fully remote i can see it going either way
It's going to be for a fully remote role
I'm used to working normal length days, so would rather get them done and enjoy my long weekends

>>109489289
looking at this and then this >>109488446

It seems we're in a good place as engineers. We can choose remote or not.

>>109489271
i'm 30 (soon to be 31) and my net worth is 30k

>>109483606
>I did have TS/FSP + SAP
Nice. I've worked two non-spook TS/SCI jobs and saw just enough to get jealous of the people who get to work on the real deal glowy shit :(

I think it's over for me. I've survived this round of layoffs but there's so few of us left that all of us are bound to be fired next.

>>109489271
Seems pretty alright for 29. I'm 37 at $1.4m nw, most of my friends are in a fairly similar spot or worse off. That may seem like a lot more but once you have a decent pot of money in an IRA or something it starts making its own money pretty quickly. I think you're on track for about the same at 37, or whatever the equivalent is due to inflation.

>>109489319
oh i'm sorry
>>109489437
okay, this helps.

>>109489066
I'm not a jeet and I use flip flops during summer. It's comfy and if you think there's any need for a dress code to work you're retarded.

>>109489271
>>109489437
You are way behind. I am 17 and my net assets are $6.473 billion. I started working when I was 4. I know it seems unusually that with all this money that I am still fucking around on 4chan shitposting on twg but it is because my megayaught is being refueled right now so I am stuck waiting to leave port.

>>109489585
stfu

>>109489271
I'm 38 and network is about $30-40K after paying off all debt (student loans). Im so behind.

>>109489257
My manager tried to pull this on me a couple times but I just didn't answer
Now we don't have one on ones but that's a different issue I think

wait you guys have to work? lol

>>109486869
>>109486937
what do you mean by trust?

what type of trust are techies commonly sharing with their bosses?

I resent my boss and barely say anything in meetings with him. He is a personal encroacher.

>>109489654
No, GPT 5.6 Sol High does all my work. I thought 5.5 was great. This machine is literally divine

>>109489170
>a good pair of boots lasts 10 years
See the Sam Vimes theory of socioeconomic unfairness

>>109489654
no, I don't work anymore. I retired on my 17th birthday. Ok I checked just now and my net worth is now $6.474 billion.

>>109489634
*net worth

>>109489692
i shitty pair of boots lasts 2 years. I think it's just fatherless behavior.

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Another day drilling holes and climbing ladders running cables... Well at least AI can't do this

>>109489299
>We can choose remote or not
we aren't choosing shit, your employer is.
but it's very, very nice to have the possibility, depending on where you're hired

>>109489736
you can negotiate based on your level and the place

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>>109489066
I own two pairs of redwings, a pair of clarks malis I resoled myself and have had for 12 years, and I still walk around in birkenstocks 99% of the time I'm not working because it's fucking hot. I wear new balances or brooks at work because they're disposable, light, and more comfortable to stand in or drive long distance with. But birkenstocks fucking rule. I have a leather pair and a foam pair for gym showers or poolside.

>>109489765
nobody wants to see your toes son. be a man.

>>109489790
Not my problem already married

>>109489746
guess i'm not far up the ladder for that yet.
also, i'm in a consulting company. so for me it's the client's decision and not much room to negotiate

>>109489813
Well I hope you can muster the fortitude to break the cycle of fatherless behavior by telling your sons to wear shoes in public. The world is not your dorm room.

>>109489822
yep youre screwed

>>109489850
Yeah nah me and my wife both wear birkenstocks although hers are the kind with the big toe strap as well. Birkenstocks are an absolute game changer, they don't get hot in the sun, the break in and mold to your foot and they're slip in and you can kick them off or slide them on whenever. And they aren't sweaty like slides or annoying like tevas or chacos to take off and on of deal with a pebble underfoot.

>>109489898
ok then, i feel sorry for your neighbor.