And I'm tired of pretending otherwise.Guess what, people 100 years from now will look back at the honeymoon phase of the Internet (or what we call the "wild west" today) and our lemming panic over a necessary change to fix the psychological damage it caused. They'll think "why were these retards against a common sense fix to multiple problems?". Looking back at history people didn't initially need an ID or certificate to drive a car, fly a plane, operate machinery, build homes or even be a medical professional only 130 years ago. Nobody but the most delusional lolbergs unironically thinks people should be allowed to drive, fly or do heart operations without a license today and the same mouthbreathers are screaming bloody murder doomsday over this.Likewise, kids need to be booted off the internet once and for all to return to a semblance of normalcy. I guarantee the furries, transgenders and every other degenerate loon will disappear in time soon as those freaks don't have spaces to gaslight and amplify each other's mental illness then expose it to easily manipulated kids. Ideally most retarded adults shouldn't have access to the internet either, society needs to go back to a pre-1993 world when only a very small handful of intellectuals had access to mass communication and it should be rebuilt in new code from the ground up to filter out artificial intelligence as much as possible. The ID laws are a good start but don't go hard enough at the root problem.
Giving women access to mass communication was one of the biggest mistakes in the history of mankind
>>109475597That and the American revolution, yes.
>>109475558They're were other options. >Exhibit A: cutting off the third world and most parts of Europe early on.
Is this pro-Isarael?
Get the fuck off our website man
>>109475558But trannies and furries always existed. Look at bugs bunny
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>>109475597>Giving muslims access to mass communication was one of the biggest mistakes in the history of mankindFTFY
>>109475558you've been hardware profiled and ID in secret for the last 20 years. this is just now making it public.they know all your dirty secrets and your entire internet history already. did Snowden teach you nothing?
>>109477091giving the west gun powder*
>>109475558https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glmcMeTVIIQ
>>109478224>>109475558I can remember when teenagers were banned from smoking in school buildings before smoking bans really cracked down later on. OP is right a cold turkey ban is the only logical approach to get the youths mind out of the gutter of doomscrolling 24/7. Let them kick and scream about it. society will go back to at least 2009 levels of sanity
blocking 99% of the population from the Internet is interesting thought. its not as anyone will be left to cry about it, people would be forced to go outside and re-adapt to life without the ability to crybully or cancel at the push of a button. teenagers would be able to make mistakes and move on in life without some gang of kiwifaggots stalking them the remainder of their lives. it really would fix so much.
>>109475558Internet is on its last legs so i dont really care, eapecially when you can get good quality ai sloppa running locally
>>109475558Just gonna throw this question out there...Why is a global ID bad? Follow up:Does a global ID mean its permanently attached to you?Does a global ID mean its deanonymizing?
>>109475558pretty much. terminally online troons will screech about it but in the long-term it's for the better
>>109478793>Does a global ID mean its deanonymizing?Yes, and it being so is more obvious than it not being so. I'd like to see your argument how it will not be, if that's what you're going for.
I want conformist defeatist retards to be banned from the Internet. And then hanged for treason.
>>109475597>>109475692>>109477091Bringing broadband internet access to trailer parks was one of the biggest mistakes in the history of mankind.
>>109478963It's just a fast and easy way to get attention and angry replies. Do notice the facebook frog.
>>109479322It's not. It's propaganda designed to fool weak willed anons into giving in and thinking that nobody cares and nobody is fighting and it's too late and that everyone should shut up and give in. Collaborators deserve bullets.
>>109478892Im not making predictions or saying what WILL happen, im saying why does ID = deanonymized? Take a keypair for example, you can cryptographically sign and present them with pseudonames, then present them and resuse them for as long as you like that name+keys representing you. Its effectively an identity. But what part of that requires de-anonymizing you?Another example, ETH allows a text field to add comments to a transaction that is put on the block chain. The addresses are hashes of public keys. Your seed / recovery phrase, regenerates the private keys. You can obtain an anonymous ETH wallet, (KYC->monero->ETH access through tor) perform a ~$0.08 transaction with additional pseudonames or additional hashes representing other info. Download/copy the keys (smarter is just the seed). And uses those to sign and verify yourself online. Others can authenticate it really is use by looking up your ETH address. They cant know everything you do with that ID is your DNA/face unless you choose to. They cant even know your location or devices without you choosing to. Yes, both those choices are hard, but thats a seperate issue. Point is its not impossible, and that is cryptographically an ID for all purposes. Another feature of this is the KYC does prevent non-human bots, while the anonymizing pipeline preserves your anonimity. Yea theres workarounds and problems but generally speaking and assuming this path is pursued, those could be solved.
>>109479530>Take a keypair for example, you can cryptographically sign and present them with pseudonames, then present them and resuse them for as long as you like that name+keys representing you. Its effectively an identity. But what part of that requires de-anonymizing you?This has no bearing on a personal identity, keep your chatgpt out of my board.
We don't need global ID. What we need is to cut off access to the internet for certain countries. I won't name which ones specifically because I might be accused of being racist, but you should already know which ones.
>>109479579Wtf are you talking about? How is that not a personal identity?
>>109479616Makes sense, and totally valid. So, how do we prove who is from which country?
>>109479664I don't think you even read the shit you copypaste from your chatbot. Go back to licking windows.
>>109475692>america is britbongistan>teh world is saved???
PROVIDING IDENTIFICATIONS TO WEBSITES IS STUPIDIF YOU WANT TO PROVE THAT A POSTER IS A REAL (ADULT) HUMAN BEING THEN HE SHOULD BE GIVEN A PRIVATE KEY SIGNED BY THE GOVERNMENT THAT ATTESTS THAT HE IS AN ADULT HUMAN AND HE SHOULD USE THAT TO MAKE PUBLIC KEYS TO SIGN HIS POSTSTHUS HE PROVES HE IS AN ADULT HUMAN WITHOUT DOXING HIMSELFDRIVERS LICENSE LAWS ARE JUST SO PALANTIR CAN HAVE YOUR DATA
If we HAVE to have more surveillance, let's shove a body camera up the ass of every Democrat and Republican holding public office. And a dedicated .gov website with a 24/7 livestream. Then we'll know exactly what corporation, special interest group, and foreign government are butt fucking this so called "democracy" at any moment. I advise this for other western nations as well.
>>109475558>Global internet ID verification was inevitableno it wasn'tfuck op
>>109479781>And a dedicated .gov website with a 24/7 livestream. Then we'll know exactly what corporation, special interest group, and foreign government are butt fucking this so called "democracy" at any moment. I advise this for other western nations as well.we already have this information, the problem is nobody caresopensecrets.org
>>109479792I checked and you're lying. There are no anal cavity livestream cameras US representatives on that website.
>>109475558Yeah I gotta agree with this. The internet was a mistake and ID is the best way to right this wrong.
>>109475558I'm just not gonna comply and you literally can't make me.
>>109475558Imagine thinking people in 100 years will even know what it was like 100 years ago. Most people won't even be literate in 100 years time, let alone have access to what little remains of the historic record.
>>109479712Can you PLEASE just articulate your point instead of diverting and dragging me into another endless captcha solving day with literally nothing of value discussed? How is that not an ID?
>>109475558Just use the fucking parental controls you frog retard. Everything about this ID shit is to easily spy on you and end a anonymity.
>>109479843You're a huge piece of shit you know that? Flush yourself already, stinky.
>>109479778Now, if it was Valve asking for my data...
>>109479749>a world without burger """culture""">the world is savedWhat's so fucking complicated, nigger?
>>109479315>finds the most docile race, whites, threatening >loves muslims>muh women!Post nose w/ timestamp
Personally as long as it only applies to websites who can afford those compliance costs I'm good with it. Also, Tor must remain accessible. At some point parents have to be involved.>>109479712You have no clue if that person used an LLM or not. Stop derailing discussions. It's impossible for anyone to know. Accept it.
>>109477533so why do they need a face scan so bad?
>>109481133drones can kill you and not them that way
>>109475558Have you tried killing yourself? I'm pretty sure your problems will be solved by just killing yourself.
highest IQ thread on the board in months
lowest IQ thread in days
>>109475558We could achieve a better outcome nuking india
>>109478473>society will go back to at least 2009 levels of sanityThe mentality that allowed this to happen?Good plan. >>109479579>This has no bearing on a personal identitySo... What you're trying to tell me, is the private ½ of my x.509 key, kept securely, cannot be used to reliably identify me??You done the maffs on that? May I see your working?>keep your chatgpt out of my board.Not everything beyond your understanding is tw@GPT. >>109479778>PROVIDING IDENTIFICATIONS TO WEBSITES IS STUPIDMostly because they don't actually require them to fulfill the functionality.>>109479784>no it wasn'tActually. It is.Don't get me wrong I *really* don't agree with that. But it's just the way it is.Consider the way the average retard tollerated the flashing banner advert until it adorned almost every page. Think about how that evolved into the pop-up in a chase for revenue, and because it was tollerated, expanded to things that are not even cmputers. I hear BMWs now. Ponder how tollerating that ecouraged the wave after wave of increasingly invasive metric collection, with the excuse of driving this revenue, and how tollerating this has moved it to facets of reality like the f'kin fridge.Consider how the handcomputer was tollerated to be cryptographically locked away from the renter - and if you don't control it, you really don't own it - at the bootloader, and how that it became normality simply because it was tollerated...Look at how the retards threw themselves head first into the stick being built to beat them with that is docile media, consider how eager they are to cram as many nails into as they can. Ponder about how much they bitch when they start to feel the pain, but then smear the spikes with dogshit...Yeah. It's happening. The retards are going to do it to themselves and everyone else becomes collatoral damage. Again.They just can't help it.
>>109483384>>109483384>Defeatist cuckold pretends to be opposed to the policy but blathers inane defeatist cuckold bullshit because he saw a banner ad on his Dad's computer.Many such cases.
unironically I support it as a form of techno accelerationism, the entire internet needs to be blown up and rebuilt from stratch
worst case scenario a new protocol is developed to get around it
Not everything is a teamA vs teamB. Just state why a global ID cant be anonymous or private. If your point(s) are rational how it is conceptually unavoidable, I'll be fully with you on the fight against global IDs. Otherwise we should be pressuring for anonymization solutions. Assuming a future where anonymized IDs exist, I dont see an issue with an internet ID. Im tired of passwords for everything, and a million logins. I have 122 burner emails to keep track of, and every site asking for another email. Email email email! Fuck this shit. Oh and CAPTCHAS!!!! ...Let me crypto sign something, you take that to a public database and let me in. >>109483384>>109481032Youre both cool though. I made a post ITT that was not well written, you two (or same poster) i think defending the point better. BTW I cant type here, because my home IP was perma-banned. Never did anything bannable. So im forced to mobile post. Which typos freq.
>>109483626you're not actually banned btw, that only pops up without a verified email. source: it pops up on my phone when I use my wifi
>>109483641> not banned> not allowed to postWhy am I allowed to post with cell and not wifi? Its IP banning. Have you tried that verification? Its much worse and take much longer than the normal captcha, and the moment you close your browser the token it generated is gone. AND again, another email! I mean Im glad it atleast allows icloud who provides random relays for this sort of thing, but thatll mean 123 burner emails to manage. Its infuriating. (((˶>ᗜ<˶)))
>>109483714idk, it changes randomly. I was able to post from my wifi phone for months without problem until a week ago.
>>109483977Let me know, when that "temporary" block is gone for you.
>>109475558>Looking back at history people didn't initially need an ID or certificate to drive a car>Nobody but the most delusional lolbergs unironically thinks people should be allowed to drive without a license todayI hate to brake it to you anon, but they give a driver's license to anyone with a heartbeat in Burgerland.If you actually want to properly regulate the roads, you would confiscate 80% of current driver's licenses.This will of course, never happen because of automobile and oil lobbies.Furthermore, the fact that modern American infrastructure is car-dependent means, it's unironically more reasonable to declare a "freedom of movement" and make driving a right rather than a licensed privilege.Cars are basically proof modern society is living a lie. Pick one:>suspend 80% of driver's licenses, regardless of the social upheaval>remove the license requirement entirely and accept the lolbergs were right
>>109475558True. All limitations placed on the general populace is because the bottom 20% of society is scum.
>>109475558common sense is getting rid of normgroids and glowniggers but you retards keep ruining society while shitting on everything total normgroid death
I don't want it because I don't want the Africans that obtain my ID after the leak to send my mom all the doujins I read. She doesn't need to know that
>>109477091>>109479315Curry posts
>>109484428>This will of course, never happen because of automobile and oil lobbies.>Furthermore, the fact that modern American infrastructure is car-dependent means, it's unironically more reasonable to declare a "freedom of movement" and make driving a right rather than a licensed privilege.oh please, rail lobby corruption existed long before oil did and they happened to lose in America. God you public transit faggots are insufferable.
>>109484619i know walmart has probably always been viewed as a poverty store by some people but i honestly have good memories of it growing up, it used to be a little comfy in the 2000s. am i the only one that thinks that? I feel like they must have changed a lot over the years subtly, not just the fact everything is locked up everywhere. i feel like part of it could be the lighting or something, i feel like they changed it at some point because now when i go in everything just looks gross and weird.
>>109475558it was only inevitable because of social mediathe solution is simpleget rid of social mediamaybe even forbid people from identifying themselves outside of their own personal websites (which is what would have to be validated by a central authority)remove real life from the internet. you know, the thing everyone immediately identified as an issue in the early internet.it's like we had this big red button that everyone knew we shouldn't press and then we had a deluge of people who decided pressing the big red button is actually what we should be doing almost exclusively and now everyone is very confused about why shit keeps exploding
The real reason the EU is leading the charge in the ID crackdown is that people have realized the global crop failures are going to start hitting before 2050. They want to make sure they have facial databases of everyone so they can euthanize troublemakers and preserve their governments. As things get worse they will likely implement even harsher measures like water/power rationing which could lead to social unrest so they need to be able to pacify a swathe of their constituents in that eventuality.
What's the commotion for? Anybody capable of rational thought could comprehend that our Government is protecting our freedom for the price of a little meaningless data. You have no reason to raise concern if you've done nothing illegal, only wrong doers should fear persecution for their crimes against the state. Us citizens should be honored to assist removing dangerous criminals from our civil society.
>>109475558where is your licence to post frogs?
>>109479749Yes. The end of European dominance of the world was a direct result of American policies, like the monroe doctrine, everything Woodrow Wilson did, and the immediate post WW2 era.
>>109484619>gotta lock up kneepads and safety gearIf your kid slams their kneecaps and cranium against the cement sue your local WalmartOr just give Bezos your money then your mcdonalds walrus karen ass won't have to waddle into their 01' Chevy Cavalier with chipped up, flaking Four Loko gold diarrhea brown paint from MAACO a wobbly front axel oil leaks like an expired ripped Tampax and drive down to Walmart huffin and puffin just to crawl into the in store Mickey Ds to order a Big Sausage Egg Pancake Breakfast a Mcgriddle and a large Caramel Chocolate Frappé Before she contemplates how to survive treading into the bicycle gear shelf section and moan to an employee that she needs to buy gear for her daughter to not get a massive concussion so she doesn't need to sue the HOA for their dangerous cementGod forbid she has to make it back home AND NEEDS TO PUMP GASAnd wants a Grimace shakeStarbucks is closer and on the way home
