is it really that bad or it's just incel chuds and trannies that hate it?
Latter, init systems practically have no difference for a regular person
there actually is a singular valid complaint about systemd and no i won't tell you what that is because it'd ruin the fun. the rest, whatever you think i'm referring to, is schizo nonsense.
>>109477799>Latter, init systems practically have no difference for a regular personSo this is why we will only push SystemD in everything! Because it makes no difference chud!>>109477752>is it really that badSystemD wake up >Out of nowhere you learn there is something called a init system in your OS (previously it was like 20 lines of code only)HUH?>SystemD does shit loads of things some applications require it to even startWait what?>It has binary logs!This is what convinces everyone that it is bad.SystemD looks like spyware pushed on linux.
>>109477856systemd's memory dumps of mpv were adding like 6 GB to my timeshift snapshots.
>>109477752the problem with systemd is that it bundles dozen of services that no one uses + you cant remove them, when better alternatives existsim talking about systemd-machined,timesynd,resolved,userdbd,homed,journald,run0it even got service for saving backlight state and cleaning tmp files??and whats most important we got better alternatives for systemd such as openrc
>>109477752Well, system D is not just an init system. It's a collection of utilities which make a Linux distribution a complete experience.Automation, parallelization, compartmentalization, and containment one convenient package.A framework which enables system administrators and developers to create mission critical security solutions within a fairly short time span.People advocating against it are walking Meme Zombies, contrarians, unable to learn new things guided by their self-propelling short-sighted beliefs.
>>109477972and lets not forget about absorbing linux projects into itself thus making non systemd distro pain in the assI wonder how linux desktop would look like in 2015+11 if debian had stuck to sysvinit
>>109477972which is better: openrc or sysvinit?
>>109477856>So this is why we will only push SystemD in everything! Because it makes no difference chud!Nta but yes for an end user they won't notice any difference
>>109477818>I thought about commenting but decided not to
>>109477972>it bundles dozen of services that no one uses + you cant remove them, when better alternatives existsthose service also demand to be run as PID 1 for absolutely no reason.Personally I don't care because they're easy to disable and don't really get in the way but it's like what are you doing? systemd is very silly.
>>109477752It's really bad. Init, like graphics, is a thing that even if it fails once every month, it's a huge deal. In this case, it is far more frequent than that. I recently setup an htpc with a systemd-based distro. Just like the memes over 10 years ago, it fails to shutdown getting into race conditions. It tries to ping google without asking when the dns is down. It crashed several times while I was trying to install packages to setup the system. Those are just the issues I encountered before I threw it into the trash. I can't possibly imagine using it day to day.
>>109477997Openrc. It adds a bunch of nice features like parallelization and a nicer init config system without being too much more complex and remaining very reliable.
