why not just make more ram?
>>109498054bc the end game is dumb terminals and renting compute off the cloud
Profit
>>109498054Cool it with the antisemitism
>>109498054Make more money instead.
>>109498054price would go down
>>109498054To make RAM from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
>>109498054No shit sherlock. How couldn't we think of that?Because AI industry bought all the RAM for next decade. They are already manufacturing all they can.
>>109498054ram will never recoverAI bubble needs to popthis is all by designnerfing our local capabilities
>>109498054Why not sell the extra ram you make to make even more data centers? Consumers aren’t the ones making your stonks go up
>>109498721>AI bubble needs to pop"This Manhattan bubble needs to pop. Stupid Americans wasting money on this miracle bomb. It will never work."
>>109498774how does boot taste
>>109498785I'm wearing those boots. AI will never replace me. But it will replace you.
>>109498054they all decided to do thatit takes time and somehow coincidentally the demand will disappear by the time their new lines are running and the leaders who ordered the construction and machinery will be sacked and called terrible executives
>>109498841fed trash.
>>109498054because most ram created breaks before it makes it to market. for every 10000 cards made, only 1 makes it out alive.and out of the hundreds of thousands that make it out alive, only a couple thousand actually get a job and submit to tptb.and since they already used weapon at their disposal to create the ram, they are at a loss whenever one goes rogue, which is why they'r threatening the "rogue ones" with being drafted to die in iran.
>>109498054They could but then the prices would go down.If you can make more money without producing more, you make more profit.
when is china gonna gigachad out and start selling ram
The machines are running at 100% capacity and building more machines takes 3-5 years. The LLM boom started less than 4 years ago and they only started building facilities for ram last year so yeah prices are going up.
>>109498054Because every single time there have been ram shortages in the past ram manufacturers spent a lot of money adding more capacity, but then demand started decreasing and all the added capacity was for naught.
>>109499363This time is genuinely different
>>109498054jews can print money faster than fabs can print chips
There is no RAM or any hardware shortage for that matter. Companies saw an opportunity so they took it. It's that same "false scarcity" that infects everything else. Prices won;t go down either because they see people paying the current prices so why would they ever lower them?
>>109498054The major manufacturers are colluding. They could easily make more RAM, but they are deliberately removing most of their consumer grade memory in the binning process, choosing to offload it to less demanding IoT applications instead. The move to HBM was used as an excuse to cover up the new binning strategy.>>109498407Yeah, but you'd be able to make a lot of money by meeting that demand.>>109499363Yes, but they ultimately have market incentive to meet demand, because otherwise someone could step up and provide more supply and earn more money. The only way for them to not make more money by meeting demand is if they were colluding to keep supply low.
>>109498054take long to make factory
>>109499903npc cattle keep regurgitating this meme year after year after year
>>109499908can u give better answer
>>109498060LatencyOur attention spans are a few units above 0 and it’s a product of their own making. Cloud can’t fix the latency.
>>109498054Because you can't just walk up to your workbench and craft it like you do in Palworld
>>109498054Because AI is a bubble and no one wants to spend millions in infrastructure only to find the demand vanish when it bursts. People are already finding out that the data centres were a scam.
>>1094980542025–27: datacenters eat everything; consumer hardware feels neglected and stupidly expensive.2027–29: new fabs finally contribute meaningful supply; NPUs and local AI become standard rather than marketing fluff.~2030 onward: the interesting consumer machine returns — except instead of “16-core CPU + gaming GPU,” we're probably talking CPU + enormous accelerator + 64/128/256 GB high-bandwidth memory, running a substantial portion of your personal AI locally.
>>109498054>>109499307Cartels and collusion. Technically not legal in the US but good luck enforcing it.
>>109498054lol they are sitting on stockpiles of it don't believe any of this junk about we can't make enough it's all lies anyone right now can buy ram all the stores are full of ram
>>109499944>~2030 onward: the interesting consumer machine returns — except instead of “16-core CPU + gaming GPU,” we're probably talking CPU + enormous accelerator + 64/128/256 GB high-bandwidth memory, running a substantial portion of your personal AI locally.You are retarded if they'll let you get local models running anymore. They'll lock it down even more.
>>109498774>another big lethal weapon to exterminate other human beings>treated like the greatest thing ever inventedNothing had changed.
>>109498054>sell off 95% of your stock and become rich and successful beyond your wildest dreams.>proceed to fuck the consumer by jacking up prices furtherwhat the fuck level of greed even is this? i hope someone shoots these fuckers.
>>109498054make it then OP-sama
>>109499893>if they were colludinghardware manufacturers have been doing this for decades and getting away with it every single time by blaming it on something elseAI is easy to blame so they will get away with it again
>>109499307wait....supply AND demand....anons, waht if the formula for making money is:S (for supply)pR (for price)D (for demand)P (for profit) pR+S^D|Pand its not what the economists have been telling with their witchcraft and money changing over in wallstreetwhat if the power....was always in the hands of the.....coomsoomer?!?!
>>109498054Because then they can’t charge so much for it.
That's what CXMT does.
>>109498054We forgot how and the technology doesnt exist anymore. STOP ASKING QUESTIONS! This is why we mass imported indians for their high IQs. To rebuild what we forgot. Also we invested our countries last dollars into AI, to lower the cost of tech products. It's just an unexpected side effect everything has 10x in costs. But the experts are 100% positive the freemarket will bring down the costs, b-because they say so, okay? STOP ASKING QUESTIONS!
>>109500127Just Maduro the CEOs and shareholders
>>109498054Because its a bubble and all manufacturers know it. If they invest more into production they will pop together with the bubble.
>>109502893>git pull agents/shill-instructionsPwew, you’re better!
>>109500127The RAM companies are already being sued for price fixing.
because they know it's a bubble and don't want to invest billions into more production facilities that will be worthless once it pops
the invisible hand of the free market will spin up extra multitrillion dollar fabs any day now
quite convinced money as a concept, is the great filter for civs either ascending or staying space monkeys
>>109498054ok, you first
>>109501413they joined the ram cartel with yuge prices nothing ever happens
>>109498054I guess this is as good a thread as any to explain my idea.Why not use masers and use some kind of physical oscillator? You could effectively potentially get an arbitrarily small wavelength. At least way smaller than is used today.
>>109503794retard
>>109503799Retarded like a FOX.
A lot of people don't know that wavelength isn't a metaphor. It's in 3D space.
>>109503794btw I mean for etching. maser + waveguide should be way easier to achieve as an independent "outsider" technology.
>>109503812whomst the fuck thinks that
>>109498054Because then it'd be cheaper, and the ram cartel don't want that.
>>109503842Most people think it's a metaphor. Because, if you look at light, it doesn't look like it's jiggling.
>>109498054The big three have gotten caught price fixing twice and never got appropriately punished for it. They wouldn't do it again.
>>109503880wtf are you smoking?? nobody with an age/iq above 5 thinks thatdont tell me you just found out
>>109498054This post is a direct attack on Israel's right to exist.
Master memristors and you'll be able to crush them.
>>109503929You have autism, but don't know that normies don't think like you think.
>>109503929>>109503998and, by the way, this is why I really like vibecoding.could you imagine me tasking you with setting up an experiment where we want to try to dampen amplitude using ultrasonic vibration of a prism?I honestly unironically don't know how normies manage to make use of the retarded (autistic).
>>109498054>why sell ram for $50 when you can sell it for $500it's fucked and it's never ever returning to "normal"
>>109498054noooo we can't industrialize at home to balance manufacturing markets the Chinese and brown communists lurking the board told us so! its impossible to plan for long term gains!
>>109503998you're not as special as you think you arethat wavelengths exist and travel 3d space is common knowledge
>>109498054CXMT, JHICC and Swaysure all wanted to. The USG rugpulled them as hard as it could to try to stop them from doing it. Blocking access to equipment, etc.
