Does anyone else have luddite fatigue? They're all just pajeet codetrannies mad that their virtual shelf-stacking job is no longer needed. They're buckbroken and finished. I'll continue to vibeGOD successful websites and programs while they just cope and seethe about it.>AI won>Luddites lost>India lostDiscuss luddite fatigue in this thread.
What program did you VibeGODDED bro?
>>109511050You will never be a real programmer.
Vibecoders want to be programmers, and insist we call them programmers. But they will never be real programmers. They have no ability, they have no experience, they have no brain. They are AI shitters twisted by prompts and workflows into a crude mockery of nature's perfection.
>>109511050you should give smaller agents to the agents.
>>109511073Here's an example. It's more popular than any codetranny "project". All the shit they read on stack overflow comes from vibeGODS anyways, kek.https://dwemermods.com/>>109511096>>109511085You're trans.
>>109511152>Skyrim mods
>>109511050anyone made wrappers for the gui on free accs? i am on my way to make 17 gmails to hit claude limit on all in 30 minutes.paypigs deserve death
>>109511253I just run agents on my local models
>>109511353doesnt work on my 128 gb thinkpad without a grapgics card (ultra cpu, igpu)
>>109511152This isn't yours.
>>109511050>pajeet codetranniesThe single largest demographic of AI users on earth, by orders of magnitude.
>>109511444The people most negatively affected by AI are pajeeti coders getting replaced though. Trannies hate AI as well, should be obvious.
>>109511050ai is the most indian coded (bowel) movement of all time
>>109511050poopie rapie
>>109511518
>One of the things AI is best at is coding.>Codetrannies mad at this reality>Codetrannies mad that they can't demand you become their paypiggy and cover their rent while they jack off at the office all day>Codetrannies try to convince you their "real code" is better>It's notTLD, vibeGODS.
>>109511518>The people most negatively affected by AI are the one who use it the mostYeah, you're not gonna win anyone over with that logic.
>>109511830Why do you refuse to provide us with evidence of something you created?
I would unironically beat the SHIT out of a luddite if I ever met one. I bet they're skinny as fuck unlike me, a vibeGOD who lifts every day because I don't have to spend all day fixing my shitty code.
>>109511050Bad bot.
luddites have lost, no one care about them anymore.
>>109511853>me, a vibeGOD who lifts every dayyou got replaced by a forklift. meat lifter, kek
I think if vibers stopped pretending that coding wasn't the hard part, the filter, then it would be a bit more well receives. LLMs do code well because the language is the logic. That's tough for humans and easy for llms
luddites have lost, they lost
Every successful genius supports AI like in picrel. Name one successful luddite.
>>109512142>Name one successful ludditeYour definition of Luddite is anyone that is strongly against widespread AI use and adoption, so I'll name 5:>Steve Wozniak>Yanis Varoufakis>Noam Chomsky>Yoshua Bengio>Geoffrey HintonNotably, two of these individuals are highly accomplished artificial intelligence researchers.
>>109512142Andrew Yang
>>109512142Richard Stallman
>>109512142He's dead, but Stephen Hawking hated vibeshitters and famously cursed them at the end of his life.
>>109512142Ray Bradbury, Isaac Asimov and Stanley Kubrick were staunchly opposed to the automation of classically human endeavors, and gave us many stern warnings about the dangers of artificial intelligence.
>>109512142Larry Bird, Tony Kukoc, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Danny Ainge, Dan Majerle, Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Scottie Pippen, John Starks, and Patrick Ewing could all barely read and write, let alone use a computer, and all of them made many millions of dollars.
>>109512142Wildly influential figures like Jesus Christ, Siddhartha Gautama, Susan B. Anthony, Rosa Parks, Martin Luther, Martin Luther King Junior, Adolf Hitler, and Mohandas K. Gandhi never touched a computer.
>>109512142Mike Tyson can't even write his own name, let alone operate a phone or computer, and he made more money than you will ever see in your life.
>>109512142Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb, two of the greatest baseball players to ever live, never heard or saw words like "computer", "AI", "internet", "GPU" etc...
>>109512142There are Amish people all over America that have produced more revenue and children than you could in ten lifetimes.
>This person lived before computers!They would have supported AI if it existed.>This person is successful!Never heard of most of these people. I have heard of Bill Gates, Elon Musk and Donald Trump though. Luddites really have to resort to naming nobodies with confidence like it's common knowledge. You lost.
>>109512503>Never heard of most of these peopleNo surprise there. You're an impoverished, subliterate streetshitter from Bangladesh.
>>109512503>Bill GatesPedophile sociopath who made billions thanks to his closeted lesbian mommy.>Elon MuskAfrican scammer who made billions thanks to his Jewish daddy.>Donald TrumpWeird German-American guy who converted his whole family to Judaism, doesn't know how to use a computer, and does everything his weird Jewish friends tell him to do.These are who jeet vibeshitters worship. Utterly demented.
>>109512517I'm Aryan actually. Hitler would have been an aiCHAD today. Us vibeGODS could use a final solution to the luddite problem.
>>109512566Hitler would have fucked you to death for simply looking in his direction.
>>109511050>vibegod>react pwa todo liist app
>>109511353Can someone explain why all these AI gigachad memes involve flies and bugs
japanese whore is now a CS coding god and makes more money talking to Claude than she's made getting fucked in front of cameras.and people still pay for coding and university classes ??
>>109513002>twitter screenshot of a literal prostitute claiming to have changed career paths>SO RICH NOW FROM AI WOW CLAUDE MADE HER BILLIONAIRE WHY EVEN READ LOL!?I hate ESL spammers.
VibeGODs are winning we're creating stuffWe have democratized creativity
>>109513020>muh esl memekek'dps: still stuck with those student loans, nerd?
you're arguing with the unemployable bosnian neet who has never created anything of value in his entire life.
>>109513161>everyone who speaks decent english has student loan debtholy bosniak neet moment
>>109513002>lolmakes sense for when guys talk to each other, but those are obviously fake photos and that's a jeet account. AI gods still winning though
98%+ of "coders" were always redundant and useless
>>109513257very specific info.. why are you projecting? and why did you stop taking your meds?
>>109511050shutup vibetrany retard
>>109513509See:>>109513515>>109513225>>109512587
>>109511050India won the most with AI what are you talking about?
>>109513555he thinks his bullshit will sell more aishe doesnt even get a cut though
>>109511050>India lostlmao you retarded jeethttps://www.trade.gov/market-intelligence/india-artificial-intelligence-0>India is one of the fastest-growing Artificial Intelligence (AI) markets worldwide, projected to exceed $17 billion by 2027 according to a Boston Consulting Group report. Backed by strong government support, 700-800 million internet users, a strong STEM education system, and a scalable public digital infrastructure, India’s AI sector offers significant entry points and opportunities for U.S. technology companies to export their AI tools and solutions across a broad range of industry sectors.https://www.ibm.com/thought-leadership/institute-business-value/en-us/report/india-ai-economy>With nearly 1.8 lakh start-ups and about 89 percent of new ones reportedly integrating AI into their products or services, India has rapidly emerged as a major AI adoption hub. The country scores 2.45 out of 4 on enterprise AI readiness, with 87 percent of enterprises using AI solutions across sectors such as banking, healthcare, manufacturing, and retail. With AI projected to contribute up to US$ 1.7 trillion to India’s economy by 2035, the key question is no longer whether India will use AI, but how this expanding ecosystem is shaping new models of AI deployment for the public good.
>>109513584op is a vibetranywhat else to expect...
>>109511050>>109513555>>109513584>India Is Leading In AI Adoption At 30%, Surpassing Global Average Of 26%https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/india-leading-ai-adoption-30-surpassing-global-average-26-cyfuture-kgoac>India Emerges as a Global Leader in Workplace AI Adoptionhttps://in.adp.com/about-adp/press-centre/india-emerges-as-a-global-leader-in-workplace-ai-adoption.aspx>India sits firmly at the top of global AI adoption rankings, with 92% of workers using AI tools several times per week, according to a 2025 Boston Consulting Group survey of 10,635 respondents worldwide. The country’s large technology workforce, strong startup ecosystem, and rapid digital transformation have helped accelerate AI integration across industries.https://www.visualcapitalist.com/sp/adb01-india-on-top-ai-adoption-by-country/
>>109513601big oof
What strikes me most is that the thread isn't really a coherent debate over AI. It's a four-way collision of different arguments that happen to share the same vocabulary.1. The OP's position is basically accelerationist triumphalismThe OP frames the issue in extremely stark terms:AI wonLuddites lostand characterizes opposition to AI as resentment from people whose jobs have supposedly become unnecessary. �- Does anyone else have luddite fatigue_ They're all - Technology - 4chan(1).pdfThe interesting part is that the OP doesn't actually spend much time establishing why AI has won. The assumption is essentially:AI can produce software software production is what programmers do therefore programmers are becoming obsolete.That makes the argument rhetorically powerful but analytically rather thin.And the language becomes increasingly tribal: vibeGODs versus codetrannies, "AI shitters," "luddites," etc. At that point the technological proposition has become a status contest.
2. The counterargument that actually has teeth appears laterThe best response in the entire thread, IMO, is the relatively restrained one:"I think if vibers stopped pretending that coding wasn't the hard part, the filter, then it would be a bit more well received." �- Does anyone else have luddite fatigue_ They're all - Technology - 4chan(1).pdfThat is a much more interesting criticism than "AI bad."It attacks the implicit premise of the OP's argument: that producing code is equivalent to doing the work of software engineering.Even if an LLM becomes extraordinarily good at generating syntactically valid, useful code, there remains a distinction between:deciding what ought to be built,understanding the existing system,specifying requirements,recognizing incorrect output,debugging,testing,maintaining,integrating,and accepting responsibility for the resulting system.The thread never really resolves that distinction. Instead, both camps repeatedly collapse "writing code" and "being a programmer" into the same thing.
3. Then the thread degenerates into credential/status warfareThe "Name one successful luddite" challenge is revealing. One poster responds with Wozniak, Varoufakis, Chomsky, Bengio, and Hinton, explicitly noting that two are major AI researchers. �- Does anyone else have luddite fatigue_ They're all - Technology - 4chan(1).pdfThe opposing side then essentially responds:"I've never heard of these people."followed by Gates, Musk, and Trump as the recognizable successful figures. �- Does anyone else have luddite fatigue_ They're all - Technology - 4chan(1).pdfAt that point we're no longer discussing AI whatsoever.The implicit argument has become:"My conception of who counts as successful is superior to yours."And the amusing thing is that the thread then produces progressively more absurd examples—Jordan, Tyson, Babe Ruth, the Amish, historical religious and political figures, etc. �- Does anyone else have luddite fatigue_ They're all - Technology - 4chan(1).pdfThat's basically someone exposing the logical weakness of the original challenge by taking it to its absurd conclusion:Not using computers doesn't prevent someone from being successful.Obviously.But neither does that demonstrate that AI isn't transformative. So both sides are scoring rhetorical points while mostly avoiding the actual question.
4. The funniest contradiction is that the "AI won" camp is itself intensely dependent on AIThere's a particularly revealing sequence:"I just run agents on my local models"followed by someone talking about trying to make seventeen Gmail accounts to circumvent Claude's usage limits. �- Does anyone else have luddite fatigue_ They're all - Technology - 4chan(1).pdfThat's a perfect little microcosm of the culture being discussed.The thread isn't simply:humans who use AI vs. humans who don't.It's also:people who use AI as a tool vs. people who treat AI use as an identity and status hierarchy.The latter produces the vibeGOD terminology, the boasting, the "I don't have to code anymore" rhetoric, and eventually even fantasies about physically attacking "luddites." �- Does anyone else have luddite fatigue_ They're all - Technology - 4chan(1).pdfThat's why I wouldn't characterize the thread as a serious pro-AI argument. It's closer to AI accelerationism expressed through /g/'s traditional culture-war shitposting apparatus.
>>109513916keep coping codetranny
>>109511050If I were responding to the OP specifically, I'd attack the enormous gap between the confidence of his thesis and the evidence he actually provides.Something along these lines:You haven't actually demonstrated that AI "won" anything. You've demonstrated that LLMs are surprisingly good at generating code and that you personally enjoy using them. Those are two completely different propositions.You're also conflating "writing code" with "being a programmer." If an agent generates 50,000 lines of code for you, somebody still has to determine what those 50,000 lines are supposed to accomplish, whether the architecture is sane, whether the output is correct, what assumptions it made, and what happens when it breaks six months from now.And the funniest part is that you're spending an entire thread calling everyone else cope-addicted while apparently needing to turn AI adoption into a personal identity. "VibeGOD" isn't an argument. It's just a username with extra steps.Use the machine. Enjoy it. Hell, let it write your entire application if it works. But if your argument requires pretending that every programmer is merely a human keyboard translating English into semicolons, you aren't describing software engineering—you've constructed a strawman specifically designed to declare yourself the winner.AI being useful doesn't require you to be this insecure about people who disagree with you."VibeGOD" is not a software engineering methodology.
>>109511050Will AI be the one that finally teaches the country of India how to use a toilet?
>>109513926all this came from chatgpt. it says you're retarded. you aren't worth the effort of a sincere response.
>>109513936Lol gottem, fuck vibetroons.
>>109513942yessir. all these faggots do is shit up the board. i wish they were contented with remaining in their containment threads. instead the ooze out like a venereal disease and poison my eyes.
you finished, OP? got any snide remarks left over? verif. not req. btw.
i wish grevious harm upon you within the next twenty four hoursverif. not req.
>>109514015You're a dick buddy.
>>109514021fuck off back to india with your vibetranny horrorcunt.
>>109514021is that all? at least I'm not a faggot. i relegate that domain to (You).
Here’s why the Luddites are wrong—again.Luddites claim that AI-generated art, music, and writing are "soulless" or "stolen," ignoring that tools have always shaped human expression. The printing press didn’t kill storytelling; it spread it. Photoshop didn’t destroy painting; it created new genres. Vibecoding—whether through MidJourney, Sunno, or GitHub Copilot—is just the latest evolution: a collaborative partner that handles the tedious so humans can focus on the visionary.Before AI, high-quality art, music, or code required years of training or expensive resources. Now, a teenager in Manila can generate album art, a poet in Nairobi can refine verses with AI, and a solo dev can prototype a game in hours. That’s not degradation—that’s empowerment. Every human creator stands on the shoulders of giants. Shakespeare borrowed plots; Picasso copied African masks; DJs sample old records. AI trains on existing data—just like humans do, but at scale. The difference? AI credits its influences (via training data licenses), while humans often romanticize "originality" that doesn’t exist. Folk music, graffiti, and memes all emerged from remixed culture. Vibecoding is today’s folk tradition: iterative, communal, and unpretentious. The Luddite’s disdain for it reeks of elitism—the same snobbery that once dismissed photography as "not real art." Most "lost" jobs are soul-crushing: data entry, telemarketing, repetitive coding. If AI automates these, humans can focus on meaningful work—teaching, nursing, art, research. The real question is: Will we let the rich hoard AI’s benefits, or will we demand a world where automation reduces toil for all? vibecoding—playful, experimental, and deeply human—proves that AI can be warm. AI and vibecoding aren’t threats—they’re invitations to reimagine what humans can create when freed from artificial limits. You can either vibe with it or get left behind.
>>109514089schooled these trannies
>>109511050You have an AI genie, and yet you're an unemployed loser with no income nor real projects, or any life prospects. How come?
This is a remarkably elaborate way of saying "new technology good."Nobody serious is arguing that tools have never changed creative work. The printing press, photography, Photoshop, samplers, DAWs, and synthesizers all changed what humans could do. The relevant question is what kind of tool AI is and what consequences follow from its particular method of operation, not whether technological tools are historically unprecedented.The "AI learns like humans do, but at scale" analogy is especially convenient. Humans don't ingest billions of works indiscriminately and reproduce statistical representations of them at industrial scale. Nor does "humans borrow from other humans" establish that every possible method of acquiring and commercializing training data is ethically or legally equivalent.And "AI credits its influences via training-data licenses" is doing an absurd amount of work in one sentence. A model does not somehow retroactively credit every artist whose work contributed to its capabilities merely because its developer obtained some licensed training data."A teenager in Manila can now make an album cover" also doesn't demonstrate that the artist has been empowered. It demonstrates that the cost of producing a particular artifact has fallen. Those aren't synonymous. If the same technology simultaneously makes it economically harder for the people who used to produce that work to earn a living, you've changed the distribution of value—you haven't abolished the underlying scarcity by declaring victory.1/2
>>109514127I have a job, you're being replaced. That's not a meme, that's reality.
>>109514089>—Didn't even read. Retarded faggot creatiiive writing. 0/10
>>109514089And the argument that automation will eliminate "soul-crushing" jobs so everyone can become a teacher, nurse, artist, or researcher is probably the oldest automation fantasy imaginable. Automation can absolutely reduce toil. It does not automatically determine who receives the productivity gains. That's a political and economic question, not a property of the model.Finally, calling vibecoding "today's folk tradition" doesn't make it so. Folk traditions emerge from communities of people making and transmitting culture. An LLM generating statistically plausible output on request is a tool used by people participating in culture; the model itself isn't suddenly a member of the folk.Use AI. Make your album covers. Vibe code your game. Nobody gives a shit. Just stop pretending that "this technology is useful" logically entails "therefore every criticism of its economic, artistic, or social consequences is Luddism."That's not an argument for AI. It's marketing copy.2/2
>>109514136Everything in there was generated by Claude bro, on 100% accuracy mode.
>>109514143If I were replying, I'd keep it brutally short rather than giving him another essay:so you outsourced the argument and then cited the outsourcing as evidence that the argument is correctthat's fucking incredibleOr, more pointedly:“100% accuracy mode”bro invented the confidence sliderOr my personal favorite:Claude wrote the argument, and your contribution was telling me Claude wrote it.You have successfully vibe-debated yourself.
>>109514140Shut the fuck up. You are wasting your Claude tokens arguing here instead of building (((your))) GTA 0.6 with Claude Porno pro max or whatever. Faggot
We AIChads are summoning God from the machine and there is nothing you Luddite faggots can do to stop it.
>>109511073>>109511152He still hasn't got an answer.
>>109514154you are currently arguing with an LLM through a human intermediary and somehow think i'm the one wasting tokens. absolute state-of-the-art workflow.
>>109513002>Anthropic advocacy marketing team so desperate to shill Claude they allow posting nsfw """creators""" on /g/ and reddit
>>109514165I'm keeping him away from making more sloppy web apps.
>>109514176nah bro. I'm jus' bullshitin'. i use an llm to troubleshoot and brainstorm. i plan to make my own lga 3647 platform specifically for inference and running my own llm locally. this dude is an insufferable prick and i thought I'd berate him for a while. play his own cards against him.
>>109514135>I have a jobposting 24/7 on 4chinkz about luddities and vibeslopping isn't a job.
good night boys. i hope op gets his next drink he orders out laced with a lethal dose of fentanyl.
>>109514202His job is sucking Tibo and Dario for usage resets
>>109514159Your "God" is a transdimensional slave driver.
>>109514159Take your meds.
>programmers itt seething about getting replacedAnd here I am still waiting for artists to supposedly be replaced. Get fucked.
>>109514202Tbh it kinda is, if he's getting paid to do it.
>>109511152>>109513926keep arresting bosnian teen, you are grandmas.
>>109514135Yeah, a job in Bosnia. KEK. No wonder you're a tranny.
>>109512757https://basedjakwiki.org/Gigafly
>>109515238I don't know why it replaced onions with based
>>109515249Ok, i just find out the word s o y is banned
>>109511152>exampleExample of what you've shipped?
>>109515249newfag
>continue to code manually>vibecoders freak out and have mental breakdowns
>>109511050Nope, we have normoid fatigue. You NPCs fall for every single current thing. The most recent one being le heckin' eye-aye.
>>109515254Go back to you epic trollering discord server, you retarded clown.
Do vibe"gods" do anything apart from avarfagging through their obvious inferiority complex?
