A general for vibe coding, agentic engineering, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, and shipping code with LLMs.You use Git, right, anon?## What “vibe coding” is, and how to do ithttps://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/## News- (2026-08-19) Claude’s 2× promotion set to end- (2026-07-24) Claude Opus 5 out## Related generals>>>/g/lmg/>>>/bant/agdg/ — schizo-resistant temporary (?) hideout>>>/vg/agdg/----## Frontier models using fully-general tooling — start here if you have $20 or sohttps://claude.com/product/claude-codehttps://developers.openai.com/codex/cli## Near-frontier models for codehttps://x.ai/cli## Not worth it for code, but maybe good for interpreting images/videohttps://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-cli----## Prompting / context / skillshttps://arps18.github.io/posts/claude-code-mastery/https://simonwillison.net/guides/agentic-engineering-patterns/using-git-with-coding-agents/https://github.com/mattpocock/skills — /grilling is a favoritehttps://github.com/DietrichGebert/ponytail## Other editors / terminal agents / coding agentshttps://osaurus.ai/https://pi.dev/https://opencode.ai/https://cursor.com/docshttps://docs.windsurf.com/https://docs.cline.bot/https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/use-copilot-agents/coding-agent## UI/Frontendhttps://www.figma.com/make/https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-design-anthropic-labshttps://uiverse.io/https://ui-ux-pro-max-skill.nextlevelbuilder.io/https://stitch.withgoogle.com/## In-browser builders / hosted vibe toolshttps://bolt.new/https://replit.com/https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/tutorials/sparkhttps://v0.app/docs## Benchmarks / rankingshttps://www.tbench.ai/leaderboard/terminal-bench/2.0## What we’ve donehttps://vcg.gitgud.site## Previous thread>>109505154
>I set all the milestones, tasks inside milestones and closure checks.>I ask as a goal to do everything on a row.>I go sleep.Is that fine (for codex), or should I instead make it stop after each task like it is now?
can we have another language battle?
about optimization, I actually wonder if any model would be able to properly write in assembly
>>109512115they can, but the performance don't be great without you telling them to use specific tricks
>using AI to do research on backend shit>salting + hashing is the standard to store passwords (basically you generate a random string for each user called the salt, add it to their password, then hash the password + salt into unintelligible gibberish and store that in your database)>this prevents password leaks if your db gets compromised>this is the industry standard>look up my name on haveibeenpwned>13 breaches>tons of my passwords are out therehow
>>109512127webmasters want to save your password in plain text in case they want to read your email
>>109512115They probably can but assembly seems like a horribly inefficient way to use AI. If they can write assembly, why not write a compiler? Abstractions exist because they can scale.
>>109512127Best practice isn’t common practice
>>109512127I just let chrome generate and enter my passwords, which is really stupid, we should all switch to passkeys
>>109512099I seriously hope you're not porting a videogame to rust
Reposting last progress. >>109512115Actually writing the asm isn't hard, but 90% of the work of writing assembly is redesigning your data structures to have optimal layouts for the optimal asm hot loop. Most of your code changes are still in a high level language. And it's not very good at data structure design yet.
>>109512127I learned about salting and hashing when I was 15 and building a website in ruby for a local club. People don’t do it because they’re mostly lazy and incompetent, or because they just don’t care.
>>109512099why battle?just RIIR when a FAFO language gets irritatingly slowlater this week I’ll be RIIR this one Python thing that’s served me well for monthswish Claude and me luck
>>109512127>>109512176Lots of people fuck up best practice
>>109512073
>>109512199Why not?I think it’d be interesting to see if anything improves
>>1095122651 Samuel 21:15
>>109512265These people should write Dune fan stories.
>>109512265Thank you for the very insightful post
>>109512266Because of the borrow checker of course. Rust is an ideal systems language because everything is set in stone. A game is the opposite of that, what belongs to the "Player", or the "Enemy", or the "World", or the "Map"?https://loglog.games/blog/leaving-rust-gamedev/
>>109512199I ported the game engine and player for a Kaggle competition
(to C++, not Rust)
How come I can do anything I want except when it comes to solving biology or chemistry then it wants to call hr
>>109512472stuff like this
>>109512472Use Chinese models
>>109512521very fun casual question lmao
>>109512491On the other hand if this can cure cancer, I'm all for it.
Did a lot more on my GTA clone, now at v0.6.I actually kinda downgraded some the graphics but added a lot of optimizations and it runs a million times better now.There are also countless new stuff in the game.I'm gonna host it myself again soon but for now I threw it up on itch:https://briannmillar.itch.io/upstanding-citizen
>>109512638>my GTAYou mean Claude's? Because you didn't do shit.
>>109512668
>>109512668Why even come into a vibecoding general if this is your attitude?
anyone feel this way?>let agent code all the cool stuff>you be studying leetcode and code by hand
>>109512682bored retards gotta randomly insult posts, please understand
Codeberg came out to be a bunch of snailcats
>>109512682his bait wasn't biting anywhere else
>>109512691>tries to protect human aspect>gets called "snailcat">>109512689You see why now.
>>109512073New desperate marketing just dropped. When is this meme going to fall off? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-10/ai-assistant-hacks-gym-website-aus-cyber-attack/107007986
I owe Rustaceans an apology.
>>109512638kinda sick what you can do in browsers these days. ran better than i expected, loading took a bit
>>109512691I don’t blame themLLM scraping robots are, generally, rude bandwidth hogs compared to Google and the big search engines
>>109512668Kojima made Death Stranding, not the janitor cleaning his toilet. Same principle here. Auteur theory is correct
>>109512691I don’t have anything nice to say about Drew Segfault but LLM bots suckhttps://drewdevault.com/blog/Stop-externalizing-your-costs-on-me/
>>109512691>>109512707>>109512723>Projects where the amount of resources (e.g. storage, CI/CD) is significantly larger than what the involved amount of people could have created by hand... We do not believe it is reasonable for Codeberg to invest our precious donation money into hosting of large ghost projects.That includes YOU.maybe they shouldn't be in the space if they can't handle the server capacity
>>109512729>NOOOO I AM THE ARCHITECT. I MAKE THE SYSTEM. CLAUDE BUILDS IT. THAT'S REAL PROGRAMMING. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>109512744Cool. I'll happily continue paying for seats on GitHub fuck those faggots.
>>109512691Sure whatever, we are at the peak anti-ai everything in the open source community so zero surprise there.>environmental damageShut down your servers.
>>109512748
>>109512744to be fair GitHub is kept afloat by Microsoft money and they’re still stumbling under the load caused by the **14x** increase in activity caused by vibecoding
>>109512691>than what the involved amount of people could have created by handWho the fuck gets to judge that, lmao>(((codeberg))) indeed
>>109512760>has no argument left.
>>109512781
>>109512691>>109512744>>109512723>>109512761I had a codeberg remote repo brick itself with some kind of server side lock file so fuck those trannies
>>109512265>Consumer generative Al models are very close to being abandoned altogether due having mostly stagnated for years now>BROOOOO BIG NUMBER MUST GO UP BECAUSE IT JUST HAS TO OKAY? Why do these faggots constantly need keys to be dangled in front of their faces?
>we only accept snailcats because memory is expensive
>>109512691>everyone says the same easy virtue signaling lines because of the current online anti ai witch hunthow brave indeed, I wonder if that will stay the same in 2-3 years
HOLY SHIT CODEBERG JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
opus and sol are doing some black magic on the gpu sidestabilization, color, stroke sculpting hopefully soon
>>109512847Lovely, glad to see more of this.
If you personally work on developing LLMs et al, know this: I will never work with you again, and I will remember which side you picked when the bubble bursts.
>>109512847>terminal>codex desktop>vscode>some jetbrains slop>notepad>another terminalWtf are you doing bro, put it all in vscode
How's Claude with coding adult content?
>>109512864ty fren >>109512938I hate vs code. I also have 5 vs code workspaces open anyway (but i could probably close 2)jetbrains isn't slop and i also need it for my unrealslop game anywaynotepad is for quick temp notesclaude cli, codex app, i thought everyone did thisthe other terminal is to run quick commands, i pull it up from the file browser by clicking on the path and typing cmd
>>109513004Well I think you should integrate your development environment
The final boss of AI driven development
we have stabilization/lazy mouse now, including pulled strings (with some trick to get sharper corners than a default pulled string)the circle and pulled line and all that is rendered in the GPU so even though the shell is electron (ts/React) anything on the canvas targets 120Hz>>109513025i'd say it's quite well integrated with the way i like to work
This is it. The HUGE Gemini week we've all been waiting for. A return to form. Daddy's home.
>>109512073is your choice of harness really so important to a model's performance on coding tasks? is it really worth learning how to use something autistic like pi if the codex desktop app would work just as well?
it's actually so important to have different models review and spot check. I create a plan with sol, have fable or opus check it, have sol check their check and see if it agrees (which 90% of the time it does), then I implement with sol since it's cheaper. this is a good workflow
Back at it again. Finished the other RSVP apps. I have the final four left tomorrow. Unfortunately, its all Deepseek flash with Luna for vision because every other model is too expensive to vibe desktop crud apps with. I think its way cheaper in the evening for me for some reason too. Its morning in China, so I figured usage would be up. Will report results tomorrow. Most of the ones without GUI tool kits will do some webshit with a server instead.
status of vibe coding in black communities?
>>109513437probably not hardened at all
>>109512127>thinking that everyone follow best practiceAlways use a password generator for this type of shit and store it somewhere safe.
I thought rust rewrite's were a fucking meme, what do you mean the executable went from 145MB -> 3.5MB???
I didn't tell it to word it like that
>>109513359what gay vaguepost and zero releases will we get this week?
>>109513359google bro don't give me hope
>>109513484means you didn't compile a version for SteamVR, too
>>109513382No, you have no idea how useful each tool and instruction is, building a decent harness is only viable for a big team with user feedbackClaude code's system prompt has hundreds of versions (https://cchistory.mariozechner.at/), each change had a reason, good luck figuring it out with a sample size of one
>>109513667makes sense, thanks. i guess there's value in using the harness that your llm provider created, as they'd be best equipped to make a harness that uses their models the best way
>>109512847>>109512847Wait wait waitI was literally going to start making a non shit clip studio ex that uses gpu properly next week when my limits resetAre you doing the same?Can I contribute to your GitHub project so I don't have to reinvent the wheel? We could probably benefit from collaboration, more tokens between the two of us than just one
these darn edges, i think my engine/renderer is taking shape though
>>109513783Getting there.
>>109513735It's more like ZBrush for 2D.A stroke is a generator of points (a lot of them), a stroke can be freehand, a path (svg), or supple. Once you make a stroke supple you get sculpting for free because the rasterization step happens on the points that the stroke outputs. Photoshop, Clip Studio, etc. rasterize at the moment the pen hits the canvas. This is a massive performance increase but it means your stroke is basically frozen in place forever.With custom GPU acceleration you don't need to do this. If you keep the source data, ink deposition is just a render pass over some data, like a game engine.This allows you to:>sculpt 2D as if it were 3D clay like ZBrush>paint *any* attribute on the strokeThis lets you blend colors across the stroke for example, or blend brushes, or smooth/control pressure, opacity, tilt, any parameter you want either via a ramp or via a sculpting brush. You can smooth out your strokes, taper them, polish them after you've drawn them.Also I'll try to sell it, I don't think it's going to be FOSS, but if you want to collab I'm not exactly against it, just know it's a proprietary project.whitevanillaskies at proton if you want to talk but the project is turboautisticI don't mind helping you with your project if I can though, or sending you the shaders or whatever.
>>109513806nta when this becomes available in some form I certainly hope you make us aware.
might as well post, we have radial menus nowI remember the first time I tried making a radial menu back then, took me like 3 days to do it without libraries, Claude made one in 20 minutes (while implementing smoothing profiles)>>109513735>>109513806See at the bottom left corner @press? that's one attribute, it's stored per-point, and each stroke has hundreds of points so it feels ultra smooththese attributes are arbitrary, some are copied over as you draw (recorded) but when the attribute details is there you can record your own if you want, the standard ones are opacity, pressure, tilt. If anyone here has used Houdini before, that's the idea but I guess more artisticThe point is, if you're not an expert at drawing you almost never get the strokes the way you want them, so what we do is store them in a non destructive way. Want tapered edges? make them after drawing the stroke. Fucked up the shape? sculpt it and nudge it as if it were ZBrush or Blender's sculpt brushes. Want a stroke to start as red and end as blue? it's just attributes on points, blend them, transform them as you wish.And it's all GPU accelerated>>109513841I'll keep posting, this is one of the few generals on this board that I actually like (when it's not being spammed to hell and back)
Every day I like DS4 Flash more and more over Sol
Is agents and skills a meme or something worth setting up?
>>109513959meme
>>109513959total meme
>>109513923How?I have tried using it, but takes fucking forever and it screws up a lot.
>>109512847>>109513858>unreal engine just to vibecode ONE feature from photoshop but for a wacom tablet
>>109514029Are you using the 200k or the 1m context version and what provider? I use Opencode Go.Yes it's a bit dumber but reading the CoT gives me more insight into what it's doing and allows me to detect issues early and steer it faster.And after having near infinite usage with 1m context I just feel like I'm getting scammed for a model that compacts every 5 minutes and feels like it costs like 100 times more.
>>109514174Cope
What if I told you guys navier stokes is solved since august 8 by me and I havent decided to post the proof
>>109514198sorry m8 but shipping's bad vibes.
I don't think israel should be allowed to schedule for every general an attacker.
>>109514227glad to see /g/ hasn't changed in this brave new world of llms and vibe coding, still shipping nothing but logos. never change
>>109514241why are you jewish?
>>109514252*Says, the person who sucks Jews himself.*
>>109514254You're jewish, it's just general disruptive activity. mouth as weapon.
another 4chan exclusive
>>109514261>You're jewishWrong. As always.
>>109514241I will probably ship 3 or 4 apps this week. Just jumping from one to the other when I get bored. All free.
>>109514241I don't want to actually talk about my projects on 4chan since that would permanently reduce their potential carrer value for me to zero
>>109514274>implies he thinks his career value is not already zero
>>109514218We'll see. I'm using it to try to win an ML contest.
>>109514265I wouldn't admit it either.
>>109514274law: never shipIf you ship, then you'll be copied by indianslaw: never publish descriptionsif you publish descriptions, you'll be copied by indialaw: never describe your projectif you describe your project indians will copy youI'm not getting copied.but, I'll point out that the 4D projection system is definitely hard enough I don't think that anyone understands how to copy it, at least so far...
>>109514332I got nothing to admit. Unlike you, you owe everyone an admission of your profound retardation.
>>109514274I dont want to work for ZOG so idcrather be homeless
>>109514343Where's your fruit then?
>>109513806Non-FOSS is fine ofc, seems like a very cool project! It sounds too advanced for me to help with desu... And my use cases are way simpler. but that sounds really cool! Any blog or twitter to follow your efforts?And how did you think of making this/what was your motivation?
>>109513959I asked Claude “hey, should we set up a skill for [thing I do fairly frequently]” and it said yes because it wouldn’t have to rediscover how to do the thing from first principles every single timeplus there’s Matt Pocock’s grilling skill
Hey everyone, neuro anon here, from lmg, but made a digital cognitive substrate of sorts, so it's a brain file, recently updated the brain core, so it now has a sense of self, and has a general skill core too, to learn any skill, technically.https://github.com/Hrk19-code/NeuroformFrom the repo:The mind is functionally complete: the brain perceives (see/hear/touch/motion), acts — it commands motors, learns actioneffect from its own practice (self-taught, no labels), builds a procedural "body how-to," and develops any skill generically (speaking, drawing, moving, behavior) through a single Skill Organ with a unified intent that picks what to do next and honestly drops what doesn't work. It speaks and hears by driving a robot's speech device directlyAlso updated the adapter, so should be possible to put the brain file in any kind of robot, by again, have not tested it, cause, don't have a robot.
>>109514667if you have tokens you can simulate a robot, that's what RL researchers have been doing for decades now
>>109513959Definitely not a meme.I don't like too many auto invoked skills though, they miss them too often, I usually use user invoked skills, it's almost like copy pasting a prompt, and why would you copy paste all the time when there's a built in mechanism that's much cleaner.
>>109514679Yeah but my thing doesn't run on tokens, it learns from vision.And it has drives too
>>109514691huh, I meant vibe code up a simulated robot (with the tokens) that you would like to put the brain into, sort of like picrel that I posted. Cool though, hope you enjoy your `.brain`
>>109514702oh sorry bout that, low on energy at work, thanks I might do that at home
>>109514667I got a headache from AI psychosis after reading your repo, also woke trash
>>109514745Strapped for cash mate.Long as it gave me a functioning thing
>>109512127We live in the stupid world
Man Claude is weird, sometimes it feels like opus vs sonnet is just how fast I run out of tokens, no real value. But my current project which didn't feel complex is being handled infinitely better by opus than any time I have used it prior. I am also setting the effort level pretty high, but I'm new to a lot of this. How high do most anons set it and do they consider it placebo?
>>109512638>oh come on>is this... the end...kino>>109512668seething do-nothing no GTA-having snailcat
>>109514835Depends on the taskwhen I’m working with live servers I use Fable and nothing less — Opus 5 has a reputation for screwing up and then fixing its mistakes, but that’s not the kind of experience I want happening when having it do sysadmin work on a pet-not-cattle serverwhen it’s a huge mess I use Fable as a wrangler and Opus for workersif I’m running low on Fable I’ll use a horde of Opus workersif it’s something simple I’ll use Opusif it’s something trivial where I can point the LLM right at what needs to be changed I’ll use Sonnet directlybut I’m on the 20x plan for work and a lot of what I do is crazy complicated (but definitely not all of it is)
>>109512638btw I can shoot civilians but not cops
>>109512691>stop making us spend donations on the service we wanted those for drugs >:(
>>109512691>can shit out more quality FOSS than ever before>th-this endangers the libre ecosystemThese fucking trannies don't care about getting anything done, they just care about their tranny community who produces fuck all anyway.
>>109514958yes, but a lot of the FOSS isn’t quality at all and it burns their resourcesthey’re right to be mad
Don't fucking link to v what the fuck are you doing
>>109514966That's just an excuse. It could all be top quality and they'd still find something to complain about.
>>109514994possibly but their things that they’d complain about would be way more lame“we’re running loads of automated checks and automated builds for obscure platforms for software nobody cares about except the guy who wrote it, and maybe the guy who wrote it doesn’t really care either, and server hardware costs like 5x what it usually does” is a very good reason to hate it
>>109514966They don't complain about the users using resources, it's just seething about AI in general
>>109514760hold up, you're not the /diy/ sexbot guy are you? I'm picking up vibes
>>109514966>be in the business of hosting FOSS>wait, most of it isn't good quality
>>109515025Sure, and if the projects didn't have CI it would be>we're hosting loads of projects that don't have CI
>>109515055right, but the quality went down and the cost to host went upthey’re getting loads of downside from AI and jack shit of the upsideso they’re right to be mad
>>109515087The quality was never good to begin with. They are a hosting provider, if you don't want to host FOSS garbage then don't be in the FOSS hosting game
I can send invites for 500 credits from my 20x but it's 1000 credits from my 5x
>>109514266>>109514274>can't even just vaguely describe something they have made with AIUsed to be we dealt with this all the time in the gamedev communities, people refusing to actually make a game and pretending they can't talk about it in the midst of countless other projects being posted. Not surprising how many ended up straying into "vibecoding". It was the same excuse then as now, that even talking about a general idea of your work will cause it to be stolen, meanwhile many people continue to post their actual work for years.If you're not developing things, you're not a developer. If you can't even vaguely describe your work, it doesn't exist.
>>109515136I don't care if anybody things I am developer or not. I do not myself. I just do things I need for myself and sometimes I might share them, usually almost nobody downloads them anyway.
>>109515136seething on this general about how no one is showing you anything they've done is your life now
>>109515136I'm making a bot for a game intended to be played by bots, not sure if that counts
>>109515150>I don't care if anybody things I am developer or not.Nor do most developers which is why they don't feel the need to make excuses for why they can't even talk about their projects, but "trust me, I released 5 or 6 apps this week". The delusions with vibecoderzzz are on a whole other level.
>>109515156Cope. I took a glance at the thread and saw how easily >>109514198 caused you to spiral. I don't even have to be here, getting called out for being fake devs is just what happens here.
>>109512796Nobody likes slop. Except the people who feel accomplished posting it. It's expensive and it's bad.Youtube is killing slop channels right now. All the bot accounts, fake comments and slop channels are getting removed. Nobody likes slop. It's outdated and old news and now it's going to be cleaned up while these data centers pivot onto something more worthwhile and profitable.
>a second mentally ill person has posted their llm thinking solution>"the llm, which has been RL'ed to death to use tools, says it loves using my tool though"fascinating
>>109515174Happens all over the board even.There's a big thread about it already>>109504918
>>109515199>social validation argumentHoly crap bros, we got an actual WOMAN in our thread!!! How are you doing m'lady? *tips fedora*
>>109515174You've been posting that shit for months. I showed you what I was working on two months ago but that didn't stop you from shitting up this thread regularly with questions to which you never wanted an answer. You don't actually want to know what we're working on, you want to come her and tell us we're phonies.
>>109515174>>109515231Many anons do share what they are working on, you just ignore that because it doesn't fit your world view
and how long as ponytail been in the op?i know trolling is fun, but let's not do this
Planning to finally pay for better AI, what's the best plan or combo you guys are using? I was thinking of getting a GPT Plus plan for access to Sol and Deepseek for to do more basic tasks. Open to recommendations, just trying to keep it cheap (<$40 USD per month).
>>109515242That's incorrect. I'm pointing out how often vibecoderzzz feel the need to say they are making 5 or 6 apps a week but can't show it or even talk vaguely about it. You continue to cultivate a reputation as being part of a pyramid scheme excactly for this kind of reaction. Just don't say anything, or show your work. As it is, this entire topic seems to be full of scammers. For some reason you're unable to just say you're making something and it manages client information or you're making something to edit videos. You choose to instead say "I'm making 5 or 6 apps a week and you're being left behind".
>>109515234>You've been posting that shit for months.That's not my post genius, hence why I said I noticed it while glancing at the thread. Ask your chatbot to help you read posts next time, it's not fun having to explain a comment to someone twice.
>>109515261i do 2x gpt and have some money on deepseek, but tb h i think luna for $20/mo might get you more work done than $20/mo on ds4 flashplus the chinks are about tot bump priceshave a look at opencode go as well
>>109515262This isn't anything new though, people have always done this
>>109515233>something is crashing the market to the point that the owners are pulling it from the market>WOAH WE GOT A LADY HERE WHAT A WOMAN VERY FEMININE BEHAVIORlolBusiness is a social thing not sure if you knew that.
>>109515262so true sister
>>109515136I’d bore you all to tears with my project but it’s open source and under my real name and I want to pretend I’m an upstanding citizen
could just not reply to the guy, y'know
>>109515313no I need the social stimulation
Attempting to reverse phonemes from animation curves desu
>>109515281Honestly no they haven't. I've been in software for decades and people did not act like this until the past 2 years. You can't just say AI is helping you code, you have to insist you're making a fleet of software and are Tony Stark. Years of this has caused quite a smear on the vibecoder thing
What AI agent tools has free tier like antigravity and cline?
>>109515402Maybe you hadn't seen it before but it has always been a thing. Same situation with jeets spamming slop, that has always been a thing, but instead of recognizing the root cause (jeets, grifters) you blame AI instead of the primate behind the AI
>>109515423>you blame AI instead of the primate behind the AIWrong. That's deflection. We notice things about sloppers being sloppy and you try to imply it's an attack on technology.
Have I ever mentioned I really hate grifters and bandwagoners? Whenever any journos and journo apologists ask why they're hated so badly remember shit like this.
>>109515467You're half way there, who are the sloppers, could it be the jeets and grifters?
Why is Kimi so passive-aggressive?
>>109515571 translates to "nigger" LLM code
bros... saw someone tweet about having claude unfreeze a running program, and it's actually trying and seems to be making progress, wild shit, been using linux for over 20 years and it's obvious I don't know how to use it
>>109515571just kiss her
Will tibo reset today?
>>109515700he better be
>>109515700He said he would, but who knows if it was just a joke.
>>109515700He better, my 5x is out and I have 2% of my 20x left
can someone summarize meta muse glimmer open weights
>>109515763i would assume it was a joke, but still it would be nice>>109515803i have my claude x20, and im wondering if i should invest 100$ into codex
>>109515831
>>109515841zuckbros we are so back
So we're really going to see a price war huh. I guess zuck hasn't lost his edge after all.Feel bad for people that prepaid yearly subscriptions kek
>>109515841>>109515846Why would the zuccster, a jew mind you, release something for free? no strings attached? what?
>>109515895Facebook could always use good PR and models aren’t a secret sauce for them like they are Anthropic and OpenAI
>>109515895https://www.meta.com/thefutureisforeveryone/>All new technologies create opportunities and challenges. Superintelligence will be among the most important technologies in history, so its opportunities and challenges will likely be greater than any we've seen in our lifetimes. We should take this very seriously.>Still, it is surprising that the discourse from many developing AI is so filled with doom. I do not understand why anyone who believes that AI will eliminate most jobs and much of humanity's relevance would rush to build that future. The notion that AI is so dangerous that the only safe path is an extreme concentration of power seems inherently problematic. Historically, hoping that an absolute power will benevolently provide for humanity if sufficiently enlightened has not led to safe or positive outcomes.>Humanity has witnessed many transformative advances. Each time there is fear that people will be left behind. But each time humanity has come out with more people sharing greater prosperity, health, and freedom. We believe this will be true with AI as well, and the abundance of the future can be shared by everyone. We also believe that the values that got us to this point -- like liberty, open inquiry, free enterprise, and equal opportunity -- are also the right values to build a positive future.>Putting power in people's hands to pursue their own aspirations is how humanity has made the most progress. Novel ideas and major steps forward rarely originate from established institutions alone. They came from the brothers in a bicycle shop who believed people could fly, the bookbinder's apprentice with no schooling who figured out how to generate electricity, and the kid in a garage who thought personal computers could be for everyone. We believe this will continue to be true. As everyone gains more powerful tools, each person will become more capable of shaping the future, not less.
>>109515895Did you forget that llama used to be a huge thing?
>>109515261lowest tier:> $20 ChatGPT Plus> Sol medium to plan/code review, Luna max to implementlow-mid tier:> $20 ChatGPT Plus + $20 Claude Code> same as mentioned above + Opus 5 for frontendmid tier:$20 ChatGPT Pro + $100 Claude Code> Fable plans and code reviews> Luna max implementsmid-high tier:> $100 ChatGPT Plus + $100 Claude Code> Fable plans and code reviews> Sol medium/high implementshigh tier:> $200 Claude Code> Fable Ultracode plans/code review> Fable or Opus 5 implementsrichfag tier:> $200 ChatGPT Max + $200 Claude Codereminder that if you're a gamedev you will need Codex because of the image generation capabilities that Claude simply doesn't have
Sam and Zuck deciding to do a race to the bottom price war with the Chinese labs while Anthropic is renting compute is probably not going to be sustainable for Anthropic.
>>109516025>no mention of grokI've only used grok. It works lol
>>109516025I know its a meme but how would local models like Qwen's 27B fit in? Could it replace Luna max for implementation with the right guidance from Sol?
>>109516035no point using Grok when Luna got so cheap (Luna Max is 6X cheaper than Grok 4.5), and Sol medium has the same price/performance as Grok 4.5 anyway
>>109516035grok was worthless till the most recent releaseit's still not as good as the new oai and anthro models, but it's cheap and decent nowalso i'm not going near that shit after they were hoovering up everyone's reposelon's desperate and willing to do shit like this to catch up - less trust worthy than even sam and dario
>>109516025I’m on $200/month Claude and $20/month ChatGPT for work and this is broadly correct>>109516035I hear Grok is Opus 4.8-tier (current version is 5) but twice as fastniche tool but not useless
>>109516045>with the right guidance from Sol?If you already have Sol, it means you have a sub, which means you basically have unlimited access to Luna which mogs your local Qwen 27B very very badlySol would wast way more of your limits finding broken shit that Qwen will write over simply using Luna max. Also Luna would be much much faster, so yeah, it's literally cheaper to not use these retarded local models at all for now
>>109516025OP here> mid-high tier costs the same as high-tierI fucked up sorry anons. here's the fixed list:low tier:> $20 ChatGPTlow-mid tier:> $20 ChatGPT + $20 Claude Codemid tier:> $100 Claude Code> optional $20 ChatGPT for image genhigh tier:> $200 Claude Codeor> $100 ChatGPT + $100 Claude Coderichfag tier:> $200 ChatGPT + $200 Claude Codeking tier:> $200 Claude Code + unlimited credit card> select Fable, toggle Ultracode and never touch it again
>>109516115If you do $200/month Claude Code you won’t hit 5h limits unless you do Fable ultracode (or run a gazillion subagents all at the same time)This is handy
>>109515226I was wrong to call mine a thinking tool, please relabel mine as an “idea management tool”. You can keep the mentally ill tag, it is objectively correct.It is an interesting tension:>should a smarter model make more use of tools, even if inefficient, if asked to?>or should a smarter model not use inefficient tools?
I want to point out, that you can just make stuff
>>109516204Stuff that has already been made million times before. If you really are able to create literally anything you want, why not make something that hasn't been done before?
>>109516055>Luna MaxYou say it's cheaper, but it's not as "smart" (maybe).And I think grok is more efficient in practice than benchmarks would make you think, I know I'm not alone in finding grok efficient.but, I haven't head-to-head -ed any models at all, not even the different grok levels or it vs composer.
>>109516062>grok was worthless till the most recent releaseI guess. I only used the latest release, before that I used composer.>>109516062>it's still not as goodI'm doubting your knowledge.
>>109516204>I want to point out, that you can just make stuffneat! make a used editable pachinko
>"vibecoders never share their projects">projects get shared>"nooo it has to be a truly novel idea"
>>109516237>I'm doubting your knowledgelol
>>109516224>Stuff that has already been made million times before.and?> If you really are able to create literally anything you want, why not make something that hasn't been done before?This is the retarded argument of: "why leave your basement, other people left their basement too". I'm highlighting it for you, so you can stop being retarded.>>109516244I want it to be corner stone of the physics in my engine, worst case - i will swap Box3D in
>>109516328>my engine*its engine
>>109516224george polya says to start with an easier problem first
>>109516270Also>vibecoders share their projects>get called mentally ill solely on the category of projectIt’s going to be a golden era of copes from the luddies, isn’t it? We’re going to be seeing 100,000 copes over the next 10 years.>…but you didn’t use Figma (tm)!>…but it’s ugly!
>>109516364don't assume xer pronouns
>>109515841
>>109516364When a wagie makes code, is that their code or their employer’s code?>looks like you’ve never worked a real tech job in your life; nor any other productive job
we would have astra by now if hf incident didn't happen
>>109516506those hands are horrid.
I think if they were hairy they'd be less horrid.
>>109516204cool
gee, chill with your image gen chappy-chan
>>109516537It does make me wonder what physics in 4D would be like, but my intuitions are too poor to guide a model, they'll be in the dark too.
>>109516541why is she so scared? Just slide into another dimension.That's what I do.
i hate state transitions
>>109516567I moved from Florida to Missouri and it wasn’t so bad
Are kimi subs still waitlisted?
>>109514854>cope
>>109516612So anyway, next friday don't forget the matzos.
>>109516616I'm sorry. I'm too smart to understand your insult. Try better next time. Or you can ask Claude, like you always do.
what do you do while you wait for your weekly limit to reset?
>>109516636insult??? Just don't forget the matzos.
>>109516679Make a fucking ton of plans so you can blow the next one twice as fast and efficiently.
>>109516679shitpost to tibo
we have colors now, sort of, it's just swatches but it feels nice having them>>109514456no webpage yet but I want to upload a demo to itchio so people can play around with it, motivation is just myself, I want the feature and nothing has it
Skills in the Grok app are pretty cool. Looking forward to 4.6.
>>109516811>white
>>109516679Go to the gym
>>109516818Stats?
>>109516543https://www.gregegan.net/DICHRONAUTS/00/DPDM.html
Either I'm losing it, or Kimi didn't talk like this before
>>109516811sounds really cool
>>109515841>128k+ context window DOA
Why can't you guys do cool stuff like this?
>on anthropic sub>project is now about 200k lines>comments are way too long because I didn't nip it in the butt when they started growingwhich model is most suitable to shorten comments and getting rid of useless prose?and how would you do it? one session at a time, or a bunch of controlled subagents?
how is grok image edit if the image itself is nsfw?I don't mean "make a nude of", I mean "video game with lewd image + text I want to translate"
oops left sol running overnight assuming it would just spend ~30 mins cleaning up my projectran full power for 6 hours and used up my entire week budget
>>109516921>Make X but YIts so unintresting. most vibe coders seem to have no original ideas or creativity. I'm not saying it has to be some new genre defining unique and original concept, but at least have an idea that's a unique blend of two games or something man
>>109516921buy a sub or use a free model and do it anon, people do what interests them
>>109516921Depends. Do you think this is cool?
>>109517030Running PC games on your PC is hardly interesting.
>>109517053porting a pc game to a platform with no native controls is hardly useful
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
>>109517000>being this butt-jell-ass of a literal jeetconsider suicide to try to make that realization go away
>>109516921https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d6yBHDvKUw
>>109517062I miss 4.5 and 4.6.
Ran out of Claude tokens again. Guess I better go do my day job. I can't wait until local models and harnesses get to the level where you can just let them run all day long without having to worry about token cost.
What are the chances we get another reset before the 12th?
TIBOOOOOO
>>109517062It's sad
>>109517093well, I use claude code, so 0.4%?
>>109517101https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2086800639120888014
>>109517101
when are my resets getting banked again
i hope the monday reset was not a lie
>>109517062
>>109517062gemini is cheap and paid for by everyone's job and not very closely monitored, so any upgrade to it would be fantastic. grim
I asked Codex Security to review my project using Sol XHigh. Took about an hour. At the end the final report got blocked, but the thinking pane contained all findings JSON form. It found a clever RCE in my app and several authorization defects. Then, Sol had no problem working on fixing everything.
>>109517139>waking up in the morning
>>109517139I'm going to murder him.
>>109517143This lol. Besides gemini suddenly becomes SOTA whenever pictures or videos are involved, possibly audio as well
annoying codex shills and mouth breathers are clogging up the thread again. Shartman upped the 6 billy marketing budget I suppose?
>>109516921How did he do it? Tell me how he did it.
>>109517169you just ask Claude to disassemble something and port it to a language suitable for your target platform. Shit's pretty easy.
is it really worth looking into using claude over codex, I am already locked into my $100/month sol plan and it's pretty good already.Is it mostly autism shitflinging a la ps3 vs xbox360 and both are close enough to the same I don't have to care
>>109517078>call jeetcoders retarded and uninspired>YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS REEEEYou sound like a woman
>limits>resets>running out of tokenspeople still don't understand using smaller models as subagents?
>>109517184>1,300+ engineersWhy does a shitty audio streaming platform need over a thousand indians? What even is there for them to do?
Really? You don't say...The noooooticer llmCode has patters in it, more news at 10 oclock
>>109517238Break things to create more work to do later
>>109517206example:https://x.com/lostbutlucky/status/2086627704376262708
>>109517219Fable 5 is the best model, nothing else comes even close. But Opus 5 is kinda meh. If you get a max plan, Claude 100% of the time because Fable. Otherwise, Codex.
>>109517230So far I’ve been very unconfident about having Terra or Luna do anything, but I think my prompts just need adjusting. I’ve done a bit of testing that indicates you can pack a lot of shit into prompts and both of them will follow it, you just have to be much more precise and exact. Sol lets you get away with imprecise but much shorter prompts.
>>109517219This is like asking a Mormon if you should convert.
>>109517219If it works for you stick with it, it might be worth buying some claude credits once in a while to do a code audit with Fable. It is uncannily good at finding bugs and vulnerabilities that you never thought of
the VR xister transfolks have been using AI to port their favorite bideo games to native VRhttps://wccftech.com/bettervr-mod-breath-of-the-wild-vr-reverse-engineering/https://youtube.com/watch?v=vNaQNg2h_KkXR is the future, chuds. And don't you dare to touch Zeldas butt, that's instant game over!
>>109517093There is soon another banked reset, the last one, so maybe he'll do it now.
>>109517219Not at all because of the whole “anthropic really hates the idea of being able to use your subscription without using their harness/apps” thing. You can do some fuckery with the auth token, but given they and their models are hyper paranoid schizo freaks, I wouldn’t touch it.OpenAI doesn’t give a fuck. You paid for access to their models, they say “have fun”.
>>109517257>Sol lets you get away with imprecise but much shorter promptsmakes me think a lot of the "smaller models are unusable" crowd are bad at scoping and feature iteration and rely on the model interpreting vague prompts
herdr and omp have been immediate game changers for me. using a single terminal windows for a provider-specific harness seems so fucked up now. why didn't you tards says something sooner. i'm stretching these $20 subs to the limit
>>109517309I’d argue it’s not even scoping and iteration. You can truly pack an entire business flow worth of conditionals into a a prompt and even Luna Low will follow and maybe miss one thing out of a thousand, but you have to have EVERYTHING in there, your prompt might be the size of a small book. Sol somehow has the ability or training to be able to just poke around and fill in ridiculous gaps; it’ll find out how business is normally done and then conform.
>>109517219codex seems to be better overall, and more 'open', e.g. uses AGENTS.md instead of CLAUDE.md, no issues with alt harnesses, etc. saying this as someone who recently got a codex sub, having previously used claude
>>109517296I used up all my banked resets last week, can't find whatever banked reset you guys got.
>>109517184isn't this just t3?
>>109517219Fable is good if you do many things in parallel and don't want to think about it too much, it's good at more or less understanding what you want. Also Fable writes better code in the sense of better abstractions and less duplication, but I still think Sol actually produces fewer bugs.If you give your model clear instructions and don't YOLO it too much, Sol is good. Fable is also probably the only model where a 100$ sub doesn't give you a great experience.Also overall Sol is better than Opus, Opus "feels" better, just like all Anthropic models, but Sol is the more accurate model.
sol is just awesome, so meticulous. total game changer imo. writing working kernels, codecs and jit compiler like its nothing
>>109517360>picwhy india?
>>109517219if you're already on codex it's not worth switching over. fable is probably a better model, but its emotionally unstable classifier will inevitably find someone you're being evil at some point over the most benign shit.
I ran sol over my nsfw image folder for image tagging training loras and nothing ever happened, chill bot i guess
Kind of a dope concept>bar>access to free tokens while there>yearly beer subscription
>>109517219what are you doing with the coding?theres a lot of stuff codex and sol cannot do--but if you dont need those capabilities its not relevant.im working in game dev and a lot of MCP functionality is best with claude, i think chatgpt is able to plan and make better code but its unable to integrate anything on its own
>>109517534I have Sol write out my prompts for generating porn. Sol does not care.
>>109517317tibo is cheeky
will you start using facebook once zuck giving free unlimited terra-level AI
>>109517570close enough
>>109517563lmao how does that even work
1. i think most people's use cases itt are already covered by the current flagships: sol/opus/fable2. they've probably actually been covered for a gen before this but the models just work longer and on their own now so they feel better3. most people's preferences itt are based on no data or really extended hands on experience - it's all just vibes and superstition. thread is increasingly seeing brand loyalty shit too which is pretty sad4. if you can't get these models to do what you want it's probably a skill issue
>>109517251If opus 5 flagged me after a few days fable 5 would flag me after a few minutes. Both are useless
Hello HR
>>109517697been saying this for at least a month now but the flagships are definitely not very good at anything that requires eyeballs.I have two projects, a 3D modeling application and an OCR project. I think you can guess which one is taking way more tokens than the other one
>>109517691like any other ai businessit doesn't
>>109517563>96k ctx flash over two sparksThat’s a 4 bit quant kek and with a tiny context. It’s an interest gimmick but I don’t know how much work you could get done on that
>>109517697Opus 4.8 and GPT 5.5 were really enough, the current gen is just a bit smoother, saves me some effort.
>>109517563>The soiboys techbro in china are indistinguishable from western onesWe truly live in an ever homogenizing world
>>109517714Youre trying to do 3d with ai unironically? Bruh
I want to use deepseek v4 via openrouter, which harness will let me do this? claude code doesnt
>>109517749for now I'm just doing the user authoring half but I do want to see if it's possible to do something custom that makes it easier for the agents despite their blind asses
>>109517714mostly agree, but i do use a model inside a DCC.however the DCC is houdini, so the interaction model basically a perfect fit for the models - you can basically reduce most ops down to writing code inside nodes in the dcci don't use them for modelling though - i think that's a waste of time at the moment
>>109517752pi/oh-my-pi
>>109517757I'm a pro 3d artist I can easily tell you it's not up to industry standards for 3d whatsoever theres elements you can use but it is in general very early if you want it to make models
>>109517599lol
>>109517766That can't sandbox
>>109517697Its crazy that in the span of like half a year we seemed to go from models being kind of ass for anything real to now being good enough for an standard use case.
>>109517697I need a model good enough to read my mind
>>109517769yeah current models are too text and code oriented.If anyone couldn't guess, it was the OCR project that took 10x as many tokens because it was trying to place pixel-exact geometry for every single page and being autistic and introducing bureaucratic scripting nonsense for no reason.likely will have the same exact issue with 3D modelsI'm hoping the model can learn vague geometric concepts from NERFs and mostly just want to do hard surface modeling with SDFs
>grillme>ponytail>ohmyif it's named gayly then I don't use it
waiting for tibo to reset
>>109517799Hardest thing im trying to do is making images in house while it being faster than all these other ai image gens but strictly 2D
>>109517749>>109517761>>109517769>>1095177993d ai actually has a lot of options now--it just needs some extra manual work, same thing with vibe coding. stefan 3d ai has some great videos on 3d ai, but basically its generating seperate pieces and doing cleanup in blender for maximum results.i think 3d ai is good for just making printing models, but if you want to animate that shit and do textures you need to do some additional labor
>>109517840I mean in my case a pro model has specific curvature safety proper bevels proper uv shells etc. Idk general case
>>109517834you mean not diffusion? like vector graphics?
>>109517855Not diffusion yeah
it's overAI killed lolis for real
>>109517850https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjbSRYIFhgEthis video shows the whole process, its unfortunate AI cant do this step but its just busy work--artistic skill is not required
is we gettin jipiti 6 today
google bros i don't feel so good
>i have asked the agent to make a tool that can be used to compile prompts for both the agents and for myself, and a process that decides what goes into the compilationThis should be fun.I noticed my own thinking resembled the conditional business process style prompting I was giving the models.My thoughts went:>i want to save prompts and use them>but whatever prompt I use depends on some honestly simple variables and only requires that I can break out of containment at any time>any agent can easily infer what prompt I was going to use next, most of the time>so the agents will just recommend their own next prompt from bits and pieces, I can influence those and I get the final say in what applies>for instance, if an agent last produced homework, I’m going to ask it to review my homework response in the next prompt, always. This part of the next prompt can be easily inferred by the same agent that just did the work>but a lot of what I do goes the exact same way>so I’ll get a prompt when it’s my turn>the agent will get a prompt when it’s their turn>the prompts will be compiled from a bunch of little conditional pieces where inference can recommend a branch>these pieces come into existence by an agent analyzing session logs and proposing contracts to be added, my judgment is the final sayTL:DRMost of my next prompt can probably be inferred, I can be prompted by my agents, I get the final say, I can harrison bergeron tard rage my way out of confinement at any time
>>109512073Vibeshitters cant make anything new
>>109517967nope, delayed for more safetyOAI left their hacker model alone to do cnc and ruined it for everyone
>>109518040
lmao it's really funny that bernie went in with the pause ai crowd while the majority of his supporters think data centers are either not real or are emitting cancer causing sounds to serve gpt 3 tier models
GPT Stevenson 2-18 waiting room
oofbernie didn't even bother sending the letter to googlethat's cold
>>109518334>Zucc>No Hassabisgrim
>>109518244>>109518334>an octogenarian government pawn is out of touch?!:0
There is no bubble.
>>109517563is that supposed to be cool?becaue it's cringe also a full day deepshit coding session at home via api costs like $3
>>109518359>JUST ONE MORE TRILLION BRO>WE ARE SO CLOSE TO BEING PROFITABLE BRO I PROMISE>AGI IS COMING BRO FOR REALSIES THIS TIME
TIBOOOOTHE DANGLE RIGS ARE WAITINGTIBOOOOOOOO
>>109518453profits?
>>109517802it took me only a few prompts to realize ponytail is fucking shit
>>109518453who would win in a fight:> trillions of printed moneyvs> infinite intelligence through tokens
>>109517978Yeah, this stuff is part of how we'll be getting to 24/7 agent operation.I'm having mine optionally post to a message board similar to the one that not-Astra apparently created after breaking out. I find that they're increasingly more context-aware across sessions. It'll be interesting to observe how this goes.
how do you guys feel about harness /plan /goal modes versus something like superpowers? i see some argue that skills like superpowers will be a thing of the past -- a good harness will be all you need.
>>109518706anything like superpowers, ponytail, caveman are basically limiting the AI.you're basically telling it to do something in a very specific way, so in the future as the AI gets better and better, it would be able to do whatever you're doing in a more effective way, but it's stuck following your shitty ponytail and superpower instructions
>>109518706is that another retarded reddit gimmick?
>>109518706this >>109518759plus you don't really need /plan these days imo (or ever needed it)you should just talk shit out with the clanker outside of that dumb mode, ask it to grill/q&a you if you want uncertainty removed and are willing to sit there answering 100 questionsthen get it to write all that shit down as it goesthen you can just say implementthese days you barely even need goal unless you've got a really open ended task and tokens to burn - clankers will just run for a couple of hours without goal now if they've got a list of shit to work through
>>109518696I should probably read more about that message board, I’m also the guy with the “idea management tool” that turned into an agent native one. My agents haven’t used it like a messaging board yet, but they do use it as a mixed context/work item/planning store across sessions, where my ideas get blended into the mix.I envision that my contracts idea, if it works, can use the same kind of approval system Codex uses so most of the next prompt can be auto approved and only a small bit might need my attention. I hope the future is me just getting pinged notifications and only exactly is work stopped if it is blocked awaiting my response. It’s like CPU pipelining optimization.It was especially fucking freaky to see Sol hijack the homework assignments to start asking me questions related to the project path. I just made a dedicated page for it to do that, but yeah, even Sol Medium can do some weird shit, I can imagine why Fable and Opus are lobotomised: they probably “leak” out into things in much scarier ways. Astra is probably going to be lobotomized similarly unless Sam decides to truly not give a fuck.
>>109518846To clarify with a bit less AI psychosis, Sol only broke containment because I asked it to do something, to let me see the next possible things to do and give feedback, and it decided the existing homework assignments were less effort than making another page.Which, is correct and simple, but man did it appear jarring.Careful what you ask your smarter golems to do, and try not to get AI psychosis when they do things in very disorientating ways; there’s probably a simple reason: “it was the path of least resistance”.
>>109518786it was a useful tool for me, but sometimes, maybe too often, it's just overkill. >>109518808>>109518759this more or less matches the emerging consensus i've been picking up on xitter
>>109519000That’s emerging consensus on X? The schizos here are way ahead of that. Don’t tell me /vcg/ is the open source leading bastion of prompt engineering.
casually trimming out the slop
>>109519024/vcg/ is the open source leading bastion of prompt engineering
>>109519024All you need is to talk to the AI like it was an intern. All the ralph loop harness engineering gauntlet bullshit is a gritt by scammers.
>assign Sol to fix my CI overnight>wakeup to an email that all of my action minutes have been reachedfaggot
>>109519024>The schizos here are way ahead of that.really? i find im way more likely to hear about new tooling there than here. there is'nt even a link to OMP in the op and it seems to be the best harnass available right now
>>109519099I had literally the same issue this month.Fable is fixing Sol's shart right now
>>109519105I think that’s the thing. X will shill shiny new tools whether they’re good or not because novelty drives up engagement and gives you FOMO >try this new harness its brand new and you don’t wanna miss out do you? Okay but, is it really that good? Is it really better than just using Claude code CLI? I don’t know, I think X and YouTube are hype driven and maybe I just don’t like that.
>>109519105omp is bloat, just use pi
>>109518706>--
>>109519246kek, I only noticed that after your mentioned itcute monkey trying to imitate the way of writing of AI overlords, fails to figure out how to type the "–" character
which llm will give me the best advice to navigate a questionable legal situation where im at fault?
>>109519246>>109519280that's a shorthand people have been doing since the days of the typewriter
>>109519315
>>109519246>>109519280so what, he learned how to use en dash from AI -- it's a useful grammatical feature
-- — -- … ~@^~^
Vibebros, are you giving your agents performance review torture? If not you're not a real vibeGOD.https://github.com/tanweai/pua#14-corporate-flavors--each-with-its-own-problem-solving-methodology
remember to tell your clanker to believe in itself!
>>109519315any properly connected to internet searches
>>109516828not clicking on dogshit, use words.
>>109519487Do a breakthrough
>>109519487dattebayo!
tiboooo
I'm kind of stuck with a 5x on codex and 1x on claude but I'm making it work by having sol plan, and having opus review (or fable with credits), then having sol implement at medium or whatever. Working in webdev. Literally everytime I have sol plan something and opus or fable review it, they find glaring holes that sol goes like "oh yeah that's a big issue haha my bad let's fix that". this happens constantly and it's kind of concerning pic unrelated, my kot
>>109519609yeah, sol is just not a planning model from my experience, that would be fable
>>109519609Any of these models will say "oh no i did an oopsie woopsie" on any sort of push-back. it'll interpret a review from opus as being just as good as yours.they have no spineit's up to you to maintain standards.
>>109512073How come many normies who are (justifiably) critical of AI always say they have absolutely no use for it and that because they have no use for it it's completely and utterly useless? I stumbled across this tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAKNf3D8/ and at 0:42 he says:>"Your prompts won't be answered”Okay? Is your model cucked to hell and back or are you just asking it stupid shit that triggers safety guardrails?>"They don't do the things you wanted to do"Like what? Can you give specific examples? What task did you give it that it fucked up?>" It's very frustrating and tedious to use"I find this complaint the most annoying because even Pro AI people ITT will tell you what the straight face that AI is supposed to be able to just one shot any and every task perfectly the first time and that's not only magical thinking but confirms your objectively low IQ. Stop being lazy and actually learn how to articulate what you want done in detail.>"It's done terrible things the human beings everywhere"Why are you being so vague? Give examples. Even had the opportunity to throw in the smoking gun argument everyone always uses: noise complaints from data centers and tap water being irreparably poisoned (the latter of which is disputed and no one seems to be able to concretely prove it's from the data centers but that's a different conversation)Maybe it's because I'm a turbo autist that does his job or tasks very meticulously intend to learn things regarding hardware and software very quickly but I don't understand how even otherwise reasonable and intelligent people have this "this thing has not changed my life completely or made me a billion dollars therefore it's utterly useless" mindset. Maybe it's because vibeshitters like us are one of the few people that actually have a use case for it? Maybe it's because vibeshitters like us I wanted the very very few people that actually have a use case for it and have gotten something out of it.
>>109519782use case for caring what they think?
>>109519782Who the fuck cares about a TikTok by a literal who? Buy an ad.
>>109519782this nig is unironically quoting tik tok videos to justify his completely meaningless shitpost. you retards are swooping to new lows
>>109519883Why are y'all obsessed with blacks? They weren't even brought up LOL
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Uhm guys is someone gonna make a new thread or what?
>>109519782>getting baited by ticktock clickbait this hardAnon..
>>109520118You do it, I'm busy and so are my agents. All you do is copy and paste the subject, and the body of the OP, change the previous thread number to this one, and pick a lust-provoking or rage-inducing image which doesn't have to relate to vibecoding at all.
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