linux is just an app on windows now, this setup really is the sweet spot, atleast for me, I need ms office apps like word and notes for college, games (steam and xbox) for myself, the only reason I really needed linux environment was for learning x64 assembly, and the compiler course, all I had to do was to install the ms wsl extension on vscode and I was good to go, there is no Visual Studio equivalent on any native linux distro, and I like to do graphics/game dev, most resources for that target windows, it feels good that I get to do everything I want without worrying about power management (low battery life) or anything else breaking at all, all os and bios updates happen without hassle, there is no lenovo vantage for linux btw, so bios updates would have been a problem, also no battery saver mode and other features on native linux.
wsl is for babies who couldn't figure out cygwin/msys2/vm.
>>109528735WSL2 is just better than msys2 bro, I have used the latter before, i don't think anyone over 85IQ can get "filtered" by it, its installation is not different than most other stuff.
>>109528686wsl2 pros: you have linux on windowswsl2 cons: you still run windows>>109528735nah those are shit
>>109528922Despite the memes, windows is actually the best we have.
>>109528686>linux needs a windows emulator to play games>windows needs a linux emulator to do work
>>109528922wsl2 cons: worse performance and dogshit compared to wsl1
>>109529094>linux>workthose 2 don't go together sorry, windows is work + games, desktop linux is nothing.>>109529529objectively better than native linux so still a win.
>>109528735I know literally nobody who uses wsl instead of running linux natively or at least in a VM or docker.
>>109529607it's the opposite, nobody on windows who requires linux environment, uses it for running GUI stuff, so vm isn't needed unless you are testing enterprise stuff.
>>109529094wine is not an emulator.on the other hand, wsl2 is a complete virtual machine.the difference clearly shows when you try to run something intensive. on wine, nvidia drivers and cuda just works for adobe suite/games. but running linux software in wsl, i can't use the gpu at all.
>>109529640>nobody on windows who requires linux environment, uses it for running GUI stuffActually, many people do. Linux VMs are quite popular among professional software devs. Mainly because many companies don't issue Linux work devices, so you're given a Windows machine and told to use Linux in a VM. I've seen it countless of times here in EU.>need to make Linux software (be it a GUI, driver or a daemon)?>here's Windows, manage your own Linux VMs>are you a webdev and you don't want to use a mac?>here's Windows, but you'll need to use a Linux VM because we're all on mac/linux and windows is shitCorporations are often seeking security compliance certifications here and it looks like Linux is either not something recommended by security experts, or nobody knows how to deploy work-ready Linux devices. So you're basically stuck with Windows+Linux VM or in some cases macOS.
>>109528686Wsl can't make the AMD drivers less shit or windows use less memory.
>>109528686>WSL2When wintards prefer Linux VM to using native tools on their system lol
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>>109528686WSL is great because Docker runs on it and I run dev containers on Docker
>>109528686At work, they install so much "security" crapware on Windows that I feel like I was forced to switch.I don't mind. Sure, accessing Microsoft shit got more annoying, but everything else is better.
>>109528686Have you tried it? WSL2 is totally broken. Routinely crashes and gets into weird broken states where it must externally be wsl --shutdown'd to be started again, often thrashes a windows disk if you operate with linux commands on it, can suffer from memory corruption bugs, etc.
there was a lot of hype for this a couple years back what happened with it?
>>109529680You can use the GPU but you need to enable it in the wsl config.
>>109528686i use sometimes windows as "an app on linux", just like you use "linux as an app on windows". and in general have a better experience (as long as i passthrough a second gpu). back when i was on windows though, wsl2 was alright, but not without issues. just on top from my head: it has shitty networking stack that you constantly have to fight; it has issues with i/o in genera (especially between windows and linux filesystems); it hoards the ram and doesn't release it back (because it's just a vm); it storage consumption can unexpectedly get out of control; and it managed at least 3 times at different occasional corrupt my vhdx disks.
>>109530512Nothing. WSL was a failure, so Microsoft tried again with WSL2 and it's still a failure. Windows is still bleeding users and developers.
>>109529680>can't use the gpu at all.WSL2 fully supports GPU acceleration out of the box.
>>1095305471. Desktop Linux has 7% user share2. more developers develop for windows than for desktop linux.
>>109530587Can't use WSL graphics in a HyperV client, relevant for corporate environments.
>>109530639Nobody has developed for desktop windows in absolute ages. The only thing now is electron slopware, which is natively multiplatform.
>>109530649Good point. Related to that, use of hyper-v nukes use of any intel official tools (e.g. cpu voltage tuning) because they are gay and refuse to run on an hyper-v enabled device.
>>109530664>Nobody has developed for desktop windows in absolute agesGamesAnd gorillion other stuff which i am too lazy to type for you.
>>109530639When WSL was released desktop Linux had a 1% market share.Also as the other anon said, most people use cross-platform tools and sometimes just choose to only compile a Windows version. Most software people use every-day is cross platform.>but muh gamesIrrelevant in the grand scheme of things. There being 10 thousand games that only target Windows hardly matters especially with Proton existing. Games are not critical software that people need or generally care about.
>>109530841Not developed for desktop windows anymore. Same deal as electron, except largely consoles as main target.>can't find a single other examplelol
>>109529094Reluctance from many corporations VS Incompetence from a single corporation
>>109528686It's not the sweet spot though. Why would you run something more stable on top of something more prone to breaking itself? It's like building a fortress on unstable ground.
>freetards be like
>>109528686>linux is just an app on windows nowEntire operating systems are not magically reduced to "apps" upon revealing your unmanageable subliteracy and technical incompetence.
