>Every operating system on earth is now vibecoded, including linuxSo what do we use now? TempleOS?
Before this every operating system on earth was already jeet-coded.
>>109528872Not true, though.
>>109528872And now jeets will be using AI. How is that not worse?
It might be permissible under the GPLv2 to fork the kernel and remove any AI-generated contributions.
>>109528852I'll swap to Haiku first. TempleOS is exclusively for larpers.
>>109528852>nuh loonis vaybgodedare you sure about that?
>>109529351>AI psychosed inbred asked the clanker and it spout out total bullcrapEvery time.OP is correct and the metrics don't lie.
>>109528872Linux was somewhat jeet-proof, and beside, though I so dearly wish otherwise, jeets are still a few orders of magnitudes better than AI.
>>109528852Win 7
>>109531046post loonis saying "aislop is ok now"or kill yourself in a thought provoking and original way, faggot
Linux kernel development embracing AI is far more profound than most people realize. The problem in question has been a fundamental issue for software long before these AI coding tools existed, only now it's being obscured even further.Linus has chosen to ignore a dire warning given to us by one of the forefathers of the Unix operating system, Ken Thompson. The 'Trusting Trust' problem Thompson demonstrated in his 1984 Turing award lecture proved that a compiler can be modified to insert backdoors into everything it compiles, including future copies of the compiler itself, completely undetectable in the source code. This problem has never been solved. Wheeler's method for Diverse Double Compiling only solves it in theory and relies on the assumption of an already trusted 2nd compiler (Paul Jakma's 2010 paper critiquing DDC goes into more detail). Self-reproducing builds don't even come close because the core issue of the build tools isn't addressed at all. Bootstrapping also falls short because it relies on an existing binary (seed) to advance to the next version of the compiler, the chain of compromise has not been eliminated, the fundamental problem is never confronted in any meaningful way.Whether you're using Claude Code from the terminal, an IDE with Cursor's models embedded within it or GitHub Copilot; the AI models you're using are upstream from the compiler, with greater privilege. No matter how much control you think you have, the tool you're using has become the developer, the reviewer & the build system. The difference between Ken Thompson's infected compiler and a compromised AI coding assistant, is that the coding tool doesn't need a malicious self-producing binary mechanism. It has access to the .env file, can make changes to a CI/CD pipeline and alter test fixtures.What really amazes me is the wilful ignorance towards towards how distillation and anti-distillation measures further muddies the waters downstream of the frontier models.
>>109532249We had to trust that the Unix C compiler was safe, because there was no other free C compiler yet.That could very well have a backdoor inserted by AT&T and/or its' various downstream companies that shipped their version of Unix, whose artifacts may still linger in today's GCC binaries.
>>109528852old versions
>>109528910AI is better than jeets that's why they praise it so much.
>>109528872Slopper detected. Your biggest cope for being unable to program has been calling everyone in tech jeets and transexuals.You will be purged, slopper. The AI god has no need for dead weight.
>>109528852BasedCodetrans are obsolete and vibeGODS are replacing themFuck codetrans they lost so fucking hard
>>109531089https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-%3Dwi4zC%2BZe8e%2Bp3tMv8TtG_80KzsZ1syL9anBtmEh5Z40vg@mail.gmail.com/And pic-rel, "assisted-by" AI commits in linux..Kill yourself AI psychosed nigger.
>>109528852Linus ix just a colonel
>>109528852vibe-code your own
>>109528852>lust provoking image>irrelevant time-wasting question
>>109533634How is this different from "Assisted-by: StackOverflow"?
>>109528852If you're talking about strictly the source of the OS, NetBSD and OpenBSD don't allow LLMs (NetBSD officially, OpenBSD unofficially). However since the BSDs come with pre-packaged software kinda like windows, they may have some shit that is now accepting LLMs, like clang, or even fucking tmux. And you can't really get rid of your compiler in a day.
>>109534263Even jeets copy-pasting from stack overflow provide code that is 1000x higher quality than ai slop.The problem isn't the use of AI, it's that AI is total dogshit right now.
>>109533634fuck you, faggot, for sending me on a goose chase instead of spoonfeeding me linksbut most of all, fuck you for making me learn how to use githubbut yeahyoure rightthis is fucking concerningfukkenassisted how? to what extent?assisted as a second pass, or assisted in the sense that the whole commit is slopcoded in its entirety?thats most fucking concerning developments indeedfaggot
>>109534923AI sloppers always claim 'b-but I review all the code... it's great for a second pass...' but they always exclusively use it in one way only: to fully vibeslop everything.The code quality at any rate attests to which way the wind blows.
>>109534935fuck.i liked loonis thoughthe os i meanidc to a certain extent, ill just use kernels prior to the discussion ive been shown earlierbut thats a bandaid solutionat a certain point ill want to upgrade my machine, and then what?this sucks
>>109534923>worrying about AI use in projects>fuck you for making me learn how to use githubAre you begging to be replaced or something? I don't think AI use should be your top concern.
>>109534969Github is trannyware
>>109534969>replaced, prioritiesdw, employement isnt a concern for me.otherwise- fuck githoob as a matter of principleinagine entrusting your code to m$ft with the pinky promise they will not feed it to cursor because you made your repos """"""private""""""the second github changed hands i nuked my private repo and that was itits not like i was using it for much anyways
>>109528852>So what do we use now?We use Eevee. If you know what I mean.
>>109535040except i cant shove a gpu up her ass and run opencl on the hoeffs
>>109534102Why do you want to impregnate eevees anon?
things cant go too badthey will self correctlinux runs on everything.it runs on the top supercomputers of this worldif it becomes too shit someone's gonna do something about because too many people will start losing profitsuserspace, DE's and non essential drivers though...sigh.
>>109535055Why do you?
>>109535058The problem is the "too" in "too shit". Sheeple don't have standards and money has never been about using appropriate tools or anything like that. Not to mention supercomputers are largely public funded.
>>109535264i agree. i never said its gonna be a soft touch-and-go. some things will have to break, and in a sufficiently spectacular manner for people to do something about the absolute state of thingsbig money usually doesnt give a shit but i count on embedded forcing elegant solutions because more powerful chips cost more money. and some of them are big players like samsungi count on cloud providers to be sensitive to the security aspect of codeand i count on universities and research organizations to push back on the sloppification of the kernel, mostly by fixing the sloptributors codebut yeah, things dont bode well for the yotld. it really wouldnt suprise me if in the future we will all be ssh'ing into a decomissioned server blade from an nvidia chromebook running slopOS partnered with microsoft if we are to do any serious workbc vendor lock in, hw shortages, and the decline of linux desktopwith alot of luck the community maybe could organize parrallel foundations to the linux one, maybe atomize foss into various groups with various mission statements and out of the patchwork its gonna be possible to put together a decent linux distrobut my cynical self tells me that if something can go bad, it usually goes bad in the worst way possible
>>109535264>>109535350 cont.so, silver linings i guessbecause as i see things, and i look at what is the worst, but still realistic scenario, i think,in 10 years we still will be able to do independent work on local machines with nobody looking over our shouldersand while the hobby per se may be deadthey wont kill whats the most important aspect of programming to me- the skill, the power, the ability to create something and emancipate from wageslavery and the whole rat race scammaybe even do something meaningful with the money afterwards...
>>109528852Redox OS: https://www.redox-os.org/news/this-month-260731/ .
>>109535350>embedded>elegantWorst bait I've seen in years lmao
>>109535529thanks for raping my hopes in front of me, and forcing me to watchthings cant get too retarded though or its gonna translate into real money
