>graduated from CS>don't want to use AISo... what now?
>>109533094> don't want to use AIPls die we don’t need more snailcats we vibeGODS won
>>109533094>outlives all bodybuildersa reminder that pozzing your pc with alternative browsers and shit is unnecessary. just use what comes with it
twists your tipples
>>109533140kya~!!
>>109533094>Doesn't want to use AI at workThere is nothing enjoyable about programming for as a job. BING BING WAHOO KIKEBERG'S SOFTWARE IS 27% FASTER NOWUse AI to give yourself more time to slack off and program something interesting on your own>>109533120Dubs and boogie dies instantly
>>109533224I'm not interested enough in programming to do it in my spare time. I have other interests (stuff that never pays like music and history)
>>109533094Don't use it. It's a better tutor than most college professors but that isn't saying much.
Enjoy a neet life in peace....
>>109533094you're not getting any job that isn't physical labor if you refuse to use AI
>>109533094Reasons for not wanting to use "AI?"
>>109533555I don't enjoy it
>>109533094>feelingssee a psychologist, or, if you are a racist, work out, stop porn, stop fapping, start recording yourself reading ESV version Revelation out loud, start using grayscale mode when browsing the web, start memorizing Bible versesin that order
>>109533094male escort
>>109533094Why did you go into CS? Why do you like computers? What do you think they should be used for?
>>109533094>don't want toThere are a lot of things I "don't want" to do. I fucking do them anyway. It's called work, not play.
>>109533635Just felt like it desu. I liked the degree a lot. I went into it because I like programming. I don't "like computers", I just liked the work.
>>109533662Well I like coding.
>>109533589then don'tI work entirely from home and use AI at work and just do whatever I want while the AI is making shit.of course I've been at this for 10 years so I have built up plenty of institutional knowledge across the field as a sort of equityyou might make it a point to try do it the old way at home. At least the easy stuff, so you learn how to have an opinion. Once you go into the hardcore math shit I'd just make the AI do it.
>>109533716Well getting a job nowadays is so hard that you need to grind to even have interviews, and I just don't have that motivation if the end result is just me spamming Claude Code all day. I can't conjure motivation out of nowhere.
>>109533094go lose weight
>>109533735forreal though you wouldn't have been motivated in 2016 either since 90% odds you'd be stuck either maintaining someone's dogshit, babysitting indians, building dashboards, contracted slave, etc
>>109533699AI has shifted it so that you can't make a career out of tedium anymore.
>>109533775The job market wasn't so atrociously bad in 2016
>>109533789If you consider all coding "tedium", sure.
>>109533775So, same as today.>>109533796True, but it was already awful.
>>109533801Probably 85% of it is just boilerplate and pure labor that AI obviates. We make software to create outcomes.
>>109533094Use it to check your work, just don't use it to make your work. All the companies just want you to be able to make shit if the AI fucks up on that day or at least have it check things for you.>>109533140And muh dick and muh bawllls!!
>>109533680Well if you like to program then what’s the problem? Just do that. We still have people who hand make furniture despite IKEA existing.
>>109534234There won't be a market for handcrafted software like there is for handcrafted furniture.
>>109534240If you find a company that is not retarded and does not force AI use, you can code mostly by hand, just using it as a search engine pretty much, and still be faster than vibe coding retards. That's what I do
>>109534268It seems like everyone's moving to AI though and this is just cope.
honestly i'd use it if i had the equipment to self host, just as an auto checker for the shit i wrote. but as someone that just starts out you don't have any money and are forced to use the corpo closed source shit. even then, the open source stuff doesn't cut it, so what's the point?they really want everyone to use their proprietary shit. in that respect china is strangely doing better.
>>109533094you won't be getting a job either way, unless you're indian of course
Every time I tried to use AI for something, it has spouted useless bullshit, or in the best case scenario useful code that I had to still modify completely because the only useful thing were the api calls.
>>109534287Who is "everyone"? Indian shills online or indian unskilled workers at your codemonkey sweatshop job?
>>109534397It's breaking ground on math research now
>>109534366Yes, same. And I tried all the memes people keep shilling, like opencode, pi, claude code, fable 5, opus 4.6, gpt 5.6 sol, whatever (thanks to my shitco giving meme ai subscriptions, no way in hell I'd pay a dime for that crap otherwise).I tried really really hard to find even one task it is useful for, and I can't. It fails at even the most basic shit that I can do in a couple minutes (but to be fair, years ago it couldn't do what I did in 30 seconds so hey, progress! It just takes it 4x longer than me and I still have to spend 4x longer to fix it after the fact!)
>>109534433>It just takes it 4x longer than me and I still have to spend 4x longer to fix it after the fact!and needs to be a huge netdown on the economy and the resources that is only apparently subsidized by billions of investments to do so!
>>109534323This or muslim.
>>109534404that's cool, but has anyone vibecoded something that is not a shit buggy prototype yet?
>>109534541All of the companies are using it now
>>109534541Literally just hop over to /twg/ and you will only see endless praises towards AI.
>>109534547AI assistance is not vibe coding. Obviously no employed programmer is going to spend hours on search engines, docs and forums in 2026 (though they still are useful alongside LLMs)>>109534559I am a tech worker and I browse that thread and you're simply wrong
>>109534433Yeah it's AI and million of devs who are wrong, not your retarded way to prompt it.
>>109534815Yeah, AI revolutionized everything that's why the world is currently flooded with new high quality code and software projects.
>>109534815What millions of devs lmao? Nobody uses that shit at work, everyone finds it useless.
>109534547this nigga is a retard
>>109533286I'm actually interested to do some hobby coding as well. AI has made it easier to slack off but I waste those time by watching slop on YouTube so it kinda cancels out.
>>109534857You're wrong.
>>109537410Poojeet or school kid?
>>109533094>Be me, working as a programmer>Be tasked with solving a bug in the app's offline mode>Change several requests to contain the proper column we need to check out in the offline mode>Change some unrelated shit that doesn't have any effect>MR reviewer looks at the two files changed, asks on both why I changed the things I changed>Ask if something broke in other clients>Didn't test shit>Probably ran it through claude and it didn't tell her any "bugs">Now I have to spend over 2 hours downloading the offline cache>Nothing broke on one client, in the other it took me over 2 hours to download the cache and didn't even finish before ending the shift>Now I spent the whole day in a single task, in a single, easy bug>All because she couldn't test it herself and see nothing brokeI'm tired bros...
>>109537416Everyone I know in the industry
>>109533094Find a company that doesn't ask for AI or work on your own.
>>109539259So no-one
>>109539388Do companies like that even exist?
>>109533224>Use AI to give yourself more time to slack off and program something interesting on your ownThat's not how it works. AI just means that everyone is now expected to commit 10x the amount of code in 1/10th the amount of time.
on call cs with kettle
>>109533102can i get a rundown on the wins please
>>109541548You’re trans
