Every modern stack looks like this. C++ is dead.
>>109539221>C++ is dead.Because frankly it's not a great programing language, it's awful the people who like it are sadistic and for most people using C++ is about performance as I have heard it has better performance than ever C.
>>109539221>ever*even
>>109539251>for most people using C++ is about performance as I have heard it has better performance than ever CIt's one of these weird things: in theory, C++ ought to be faster, but in practice, C tends to be faster. I guess it's because it's much easier to write good C than good C++.
>>109539274>in theory, C++ ought to be fasterWhat? Why?
>>109539221>the modern projects
>>109539282>What? Why?More optimized compiler and as long as you write good C++, it will do a lot of the stuff for you.
>>109539282More optimization opportunities through greater inlining and more precise specialization.Except it instead seems to be more opportunities to hide weird pitfalls and horrible performance traps.
>>109539296At least form what I heard form the experts.
>>109539282because op was dropped on his head when he was a childand so now he hallucinates things
>>109539307>the experts
>>109539287Furries are nasty people. I gotta be a cult right?
>>109539331i heard furries come into existence because of traumasomething along the lines of dis-associative disorder lite
>>109539296>>109539304So basicallyGood C++ > Good C > Bad C++? Sounds to me like C is the smarter option unless you really know what you're doing or like the gamble. However, wouldn't a more proficient programmer prefer the possibility of tweaking the compiler precisely to his project?
>>109539221wrong image
>>109539351pamperchu was born a freak
>>109539358a proficient programmer will use hand written vector ops and/or inline asm in their tightest loopsbut then theres not much of a difference bw c and c++ afaik
>>109539376i vaguely recognize this namebut given that its close to "pampers" im not sure if i want to remember why
>>109539358Yeah but writting good C isn't exactly that much easier it doesn't have the character overhead but memory management is an insane art you gotta master and it's extremely difficult look at the many software that were written in C that had memory leaks in their development existence.That and the others is pointers and Inline assembly.
>>109539221C++ was a mistake tbqf. In retrospect, it seems like an LLM hallucination.
>>109539411>memory management is an insane artyou must be jokingwhat filters people its not even iqits patience and attention to detailand even then you have arenas.yes, they are a silver bullet bc you get pretty much 95% of the performance, because everything is pretty much array backedyou can make one follow the lifetimes of your objectsand you nuke the whole context with one commandcome the fuck onsepples is 6 gorilion times harder than c wiith all its byzantine systems
>>109539411>>109539439oh, and you dilute allocation syscalls with the size of your slabie: you call malloc once per 10k slab-allocations
>>109539439>its patience and attention to detailYeah isn't this what art is about?And let's talk about the scale of the Linux kernel for example and trying to get that right.Yeah C easier to enter that's true but it's not always good c that's written.
>>109539401you should remember (because I do)
>>109539221>TypeScript
>>109539475i agreeand i wont push back against the idea that there may be better solutions than c when working with something as big as the linux kernelor maybe better:the problem isnt the size per se, its the fact thatwith such a big codebase, the loose organization of kernel programmers could use some help with said organizationand thats what c++ has been invented for- standardized interfaces to help exactly with thatc is best when you work with a high skill, likely minded, small team, with excellent communication
>>109539484i didnt need that information in my life.but for some retarded reason i still read all through your picrelits not as bad as some of the stuff i read/sawbut it doesnt exactly make it good either...
>>109539484It's just sad how much people give in
>>109539365>/g/ 2046>the year of OCaml is finally here bros believe me!
>>109539282Rust doesn't even have its own compiler, all the hard work is done by LLVM
>>109539604bro just one more open sourced oxcaml feature bro trust me bro
>>109539642What's that got to do with C++ vs C?
>>109539221lol...okay, retard. Go bust your cRust.
>>109539221C++ won albeit
>>109539221It's not a stack, it's a gay orgy of languages.
>>109539663it has to do with it the fact that i can't read
>>109539221This actually fits the current day of technology is going down the water and AI + Rust will drown it completely. Go ahead just finish it off finally.
>>109539221Does /g/ think Swift is an improvement over Objective-C?
>>109539221I use whatever coding language my AI usesI’m not trans codetrans
>>109541476It's curious that you dub them codetrans, when using AI is what makes you a mental tranny. Classic projection, I'm afraid.
>>109541493> It's curious that you dub them codetrans, when using AI is what makes you a mental tranny. Classic projection, I'm afraid.
>>109541500You will never be a real programmer
>>109541587I’m a vibeGOD I’m superior to any coderMeanwhile you’re trans and using hrt but it won’t save youVibeGODS will replace you
>>109541419nope
>>109539251People will be saying the same about Rust in 5-10 years. I'm not saying C++ is great, but if we're going to replace it with anything it should actually be technically superior. But what modern programmers really want is C with classes, some keywords for easier memory management and a better macro system, they just don't realize it.
>>109539221The first 4 are literal copies of C/C++ with added (or removed) gimmicks.
>>109541701>anything that isn't ocaml or python is a copy of c++
>>109541682this is the realest take i have ever seen
it's shit
>>109539221Rust is not running anything important now or in the near future.
>>109539552give in to what? fetishes and mental illness?
>>109539296what are you talking about? everything is just a flavor of llvm
>>109539411jesus christ
>>109539221rate my stack