why shouldn't the actual creator of the image, Claude, sign his works?

Drug dealers too give free samples.

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I love AI. You love AI, too. I see no reasonable stance against "watermarking". This just seems like fake outrage to me. I don't know, anon. People should be able to know that X is X and not Y.

>>109544491
Vibecoder is angry because he cannot generate slop and claim its his own "effort" anymore LOL.

>>109544508
I run kimi k3 un quanta raw. Suck my dick poor fag before I generate incriminating pictures of you committing wrong think, and send it to your employer

>>109544491
you're just mad your AI slop is now easily detectable and your lying scam is over.

>>109544569
I dare you. Do it.

What comes from AI images having watermarks that affects you?

This thread is of abysmal quality can only exist on an internet that allows pajeets, zoomgroids and jews to participate.

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>>109544507
I have a right to know what country your from as well. How do I know indian or russian hands didn't type this? I should know your name to because what if you're a bad actor? And I should know the phone you use because what if its a company that previously or currently supports the genocide in Gaza? Or what if you are a nazi right winger? I need to know all this information for my safety. You'll get exactly what you're begging for at the bottom of a boot. My only regret is that I'll be purged first and unable to laugh at your pain.

>>109544552
>If a machine can create what does that mean? Should it have autonomy?
if a wagie can create, should it have autonomy?

and the answer is no. wagies dont deserve anything.

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>>109544552
>>109544599
>melting down THIS hard

>>109544582
Posting pictures of you donating to israel while wearing a maga hat and eating chicken fil a at a "pray the gay away" Christian meet up. Enjoy being unemployable.

Aren't AI watermarks perceptually invisible? Why is it bad to be able to know something was generated by AI?

>>109544507
This, keep using services until hardware is powerful and strongn enough to run your LLm.

That's the endgame

>>109544599
Dude, all a watermark tells people is that something was AI-generated. No need for such drama.

Get fucked, vibefags :^)

the future is watermarks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r308KfgxV7E

NOOOOOO I DONT WANT A WATERMARK UNDETECTABLE BY HUMAN EARS

HOW ELSE AM I GOING TO PASS OFF THE AI'S WORK AS MY OWN AND CLAIM ITS HUMAN MADE IN ORDER TO SCAM PEOPLE- I OOP I MEAN UHHH

ITS BAD BECAUSE UHHHHHHHHHH SOMETHING SOMETHING FREEDOM

The only feasible reason I can think of why someone would be upset about AI watermarks is if they wish to conceal the origin of their AI-generated content and mislead others into believing it was created organically.

>>109544848
Come on guys. The government just needs to be able to know everything you type and use. Why do you care? Like just attach your name to every post in case you become a bad actor so they can track it down to you.

>>109545091
>ai scamjeet tries to equate unrelated things in an attempt to make a point

>>109544733
Because it will be used maliciously and tied to the person generating it as well with time stamps. They are also releasing tools to view the info of said watermark. If you can't see the issue with this, you're too stupid to post /here/
Or at least i hope that is the case.

>>109544961
"NO I DON'T WANT MY NAME ATTACHED TO ALL MY INTERNET ACTIVITY! HOW ELSE AM I GOING TO DO ALL THOSE ILLEGAL THINGS- oops I mean"

Its also not hidden. Both companies are releasing tools publicly to view all the data

>>109545036
The only reason a person posts anonymously is because they have nefarious intent

>>109545119
So true! Excellent point made and clearly has lots of relevance to AI watermarking!

>>109545091
>>109545101
>>109545119
Is there any evidence that a Claude AI watermark contains personally-identifiable information?

>>109545138
But anon, how else is this jeet going to convince you that people knowing something AI generated is a bad thing? He needs you to be scared of something completely unrelated to the topic at hand, or else he has no ground to stand on.

>>109545149
You really think they would not do it if they could? Lol

>>109545183
>i have no point to make, but if i say they could, maybe that'd be convincing enough for people to think AI watermarking is bad

>"This image was AI-generated with Nano Banana Pro."
>"This video was AI-generated with Gemini Omni."
>"This audio was AI-generated with Suno V5."
>"This code was AI-generated with Claude Fable 5."

Is there anything wrong with that?

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>>109544575
Monet was a scam too?

>>109544491
>willingly gives AI service name, wallet, ip, etc to use it
sleeps like a baby
>AI service adds a little watermark to outputs so people know its AI
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY'RE STEALIN MUH DATA AND MY NAME IS NOW ATTACHED TO ALL OF MY STUFF NOOOO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND I NEED PEOPLE TO NOT KNOW THE STUFF I MAKE IS AI

>>109544491
Digital signatures/watermarking was inevitable. Most people who use AI only do so because of the convenience of bringing chatgpt up like a search engine. They can't even get people to switch actual search engines even though it's a few keys or clicks away, the vast majority will never go through the trouble of setting up open source AI to bypass this.
As for plan limits, they're running out of money and need to make it somehow. Investors are demanding an ROI, but it doesn't matter now, bubble's about to burst and that's actually the first tell.

I don't see why differentiating between organic human-made content and AI-generated content would be a problem.

>>109545238
Where are the Photoshop watermarks?
Microsoft Word watermarks?
Blender watermarks?

>>109545275
false equivalency
its literally in the name
>GENERATIVE ai

>>109544491
the goyim fell for china's psyops that were designed to cripple us in the arms race

imagine if in 60s we called off the space race to the moon because some nig with an afro was complaining about "whitey on the moon". they did and we told them to fuck off. today we actually listen to these resentful freaks. why?

>>109545288
And?

>>109545275
files made in photoshop and exported literally carry metadata that tells you they're from photoshop

not sure about the other two, but if you asked someone, "Hey did you make this in word/ blender" they'd gladly tell you, meanwhile something tells me you would bitch and moan

>>109545297
>does your work in your stead
youre not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
or are you feigning mental retardation to reduce the scope of argumentation?

>>109545204
They literally already do this? The tool they give to the public wouldn't reveal it, but the one to law enforcement would. This is why the chats are often in court documents

lol

>>109545275
Photoshop puts it in the EXIF metadata.
PDFs generated by Microsoft Word will show it was exported from Word in the PDF's metadata.

I want to hear the people against AI watermarking explain in one single sentence, why people knowing if something is AI generated is a bad thing.

I'll wait.

>>109545290
>he thinks they care about race or even going to the moon instead of enriching themselves as much as possible and ruling over you while they import infinity immigrants and make your life miserable
lol lmao even

>>109545304
There is no difference? Each of those applications also literally have ai in them? Word it's annoying to even turn it off. This isn't used for information. Its used so self righteous retards on twitter can harass people. There is no other reason, its not for safety and if you believe that you're too retarded to even be allowed to use a computer.

>>109544507
>>109544507
Watermarking is bad because people are conditioned to have a kneejerk reaction to anything involving AI. The slightest false positive exposes users to unjustified attacks and fuels paranoia, as well as FUD surrounding AI in general that's already out of hand. Work should be judged on its own merits and if the result is clearly unedited AI output, the market is free to reject it. On the flip side, if work is assisted by AI it shouldn't be stigmatized if the core content remains human-made with only minor AI intervention.

Luddites and ideological opponents of AI (a group that largely overlaps with the extreme left) continue to consume technology, pop culture, and resources far more heavily than AI consumes. Their attacks, therefore, stem from bad faith and politicized fears based on a conspiracy theory involving Thiel, Musk, etc allegedly aiming to establish a panoptic surveillance state. This narrative blends themes half-digested from Michel Foucault, cyberpunk novels, and the post-9/11 paranoia surrounding the Patriot Act. They are indoctrinated zealots, akin to Maoist Red Guards or political commissars. If Democrats were in power and promoting AI because they need to prop up the economy, these same people would defend it or play devil's advocate to critics in that typical Reddit style we all know.

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>>109545275
Most PDF readers have the ability to show you what application created the PDF.

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>>109545301
>>109545319
You can absolutely strip out the Photoshop references from it.
The easiest solution is to save a picture as a BMP.

>>109545348
now youre just seething because you cant pass music or images as your own
>but what about maymes
are you fucking retarded?
you really thought the system is gonna provide you with tools to fight against it?

>>109545354
>wall of text to say, "i want less consumer rights"

not a very convincing arguement

Would you use this site if everyone here was an AI? If every single post was AI generated? Yes or no.

>>109545301
No they don't. The meta data is removable in all cases. Only here are they purposefully making it as hard as possible to remove. Using photoshop was taboo. Ai even more so. Autistic rejects on twitter will gladly harass you over this, attempting to deplatform or otherwise inflict as much damage as they can. We already see the witch hunts. This is merely catering to it.

>>109545036
whats wrong with that? if ai is convincing to look real, then its as real as any other art used with technology

>>109545361
>durr where are the photoshop watermarks
>here they are
>ERM NO IF YOU GO OUT OF YOUR WAY U CAN REMOVE THEM HAHA, looks like AI doesn't need watermarks :^)

-100000 izzat

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>>109545304
>>does your work in your stead
Photoshop does work for you instead.
You're not having to mix paint/real colors. The software does all that work for you.

>>109545354
Supply chain traceability is bad because people are conditioned to have a kneejerk reaction to anything involving child labor. The slightest false positive exposes users to unjustified attacks and fuels paranoia, as well as FUD surrounding outsourcing in general that's already out of hand. Work should be judged on its own merits and if the result is clearly the work a child slaved over, the market is free to reject it. On the flip side, if work is assisted by children it shouldn't be stigmatized if the core content remains adult-made with only minor child intervention.

>>109545381
>>ERM NO IF YOU GO OUT OF YOUR WAY U CAN REMOVE THEM HAHA, looks like AI doesn't need watermarks :^)

It literally takes 1 second to save a BMP and make your image untraceable.

>>109545371
You have no counter-argument because you know it's accurate. You're part of a mob whipped into a frenzy and an ideological leftist driven by prejudices and puerile pop sci-fi conspiracy theories: "AI is coming to kill us! They're going to steal all our money the big bad James Bond white guy cackling in his lair!" It's pretty pathetic how transparent all of this is coming from you lot. Always the same arguments about "muh soul", "muh ethics", or debunked water usage talking points that are not based on accurate data.

What matters is the content being presented. Chatting with a bot might well turn out to be more rewarding than talking to a mentally deficient ideologically extreme leftist like you.

>>109545390
So if it's so easy to remove why are you against watermarks?

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>>109545354
>Watermarking is bad because people are conditioned to have a kneejerk reaction to anything involving AI.

You don't remember when there were waves of anti-Photoshop activism in the 2010s?

>>109545374
literal scammer mentality
you'll see an AI generated thot prompted by a third worlder and drain your wallet for her because she "looks real"

>>109545381
Nigger hands typed these on their nigger windows computer. We need watermarks for you people.

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>>109545385
>Supply chain traceability is bad because people are conditioned to have a kneejerk reaction to anything involving child labor.
Unironically this an argument that supports AI.
AI replacing human labor = no children have to suffer.

Thanks! :)

>>109545408
youre like the people who said any music made with synthesizers is fake music and it all has to be on a guitar, or 3d video games are too real. dude this is all just typical "new bad old good" shit

>>109545397
Why are you against consumers making an informed decision?

>scammer melty

O I am laffin

AI Gods: 1
Reddit midwits: 0

AI fags melting down in real time :^)

>>109545399
Because they're a waste of resources and don't solve anything.

>>109545402
That is bad retard.
>>109545408
Where is the scam? And if youre simping for e girls you're already lost. Saying someone could use it for bad so we need less protection and more control is the same anti gun rhetoric spewed by retards. Also most of the public models don't do nsfw. So literally you are attacking something that isn't even the cause of what youre chimping out about

>>109545439
Yes they do, they help me make an informed decision. If I am going to consume something, I don't want it to be AI generated. Simple as. I have the right to know. Unless of course... You don't want me to know? Why would that be?

>>109544491
damn that sucks bro
>continues using deepsneed 4 on my desktop

>>109545434
You are already capable of making an informed decision. If the AI-generated result is too obvious or sloppy, it gets rejected. If it is quality work, it is judged on its own merits. That is the only mechanism needed. There is no need to coddle the mentally disabled any more than is already done by slapping on stickers to warn you in advance.

>>109545354
>The slightest false positive exposes users to unjustified attacks and fuels paranoia

Good thing systems are being developed to reduce the occurrence of false positives.

>going to tech board to push 2023 era "AI bad" talking points
not sending their best

>>109545457
>Yes they do, they help me make an informed decision.

No one is forcing you to buy a product made with AI.

You can buy from businesses who say they're "hand made" instead.

>>109545475
I still want the watermark, quality is not the issue here, the way it was produced is.
>There is no need to coddle the mentally disabled any more than is already done by slapping on stickers to warn you
Why do you hate informed consumers so much? Going so far as to insult them for no reason...
Does it really hurt you so much for them to know it's AI generated? It's quality, right? If it is quality work, it is judged on its own merits, watermark or not.

>>109544491
Post hand

>>109545457
Do you have the right to know KFC's herbs and spices? Do you have the right to know McDonald's recipes? Technically not. They are trade secrets. Yet you'll still eat up that slop. Appeal to your Marxist god of delusion or adapt to reality. Use your big boy brain to discern what is and isn't slop, if you are so confident AI is bad.

>>109545508
>food analogy

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>>109545493
Yeah, that's the ironic.
All the Boomers still act like it's 2022 when modern day AI is putting Math Professors out of work.

>>109544491
OP is correct. Regulation only leads to censorship. We're already past the peak of free AI. China is the only hope left

>>109544499
Same reason why adobe shouldnt put shit on my exported photoshop or after effects projects.

>people knowing whether or not something is AI is a bad thing!
what a position to take, jesus christ

>>109545508
AI defenders are corporate bootlickers I see

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>>109545553
Luddites are communist hacks who don't understand the free market.

>>109545551
because its going to be used for witch hunting and you know it. the ppl pushing this are all leftist for a reason

all you need is one false positive placed on a drawing or music labeled with an "ai watermark" and discord/bluesky doxxes the guy till he kills himself. thats what they want it for. its another scarlet letter they can use against their political enemies.

>>109545320
They are jeets who want to scam people that’s why they are seething

>>109545508
Did McDonalds use AI to generate that burger from a prompt or did a human cook it?

>>109545551
When has nanny state overregulation bullshit like this ever worked?
>>109545564
Yeah reminds me of when California made it a law to put "this causes cancer" stickers on everything so now everybody ignores it

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>>109545568
Um sweetie, they absolutely do fake the shit out of it.
Or did you really think those menu pics were real?

>>109545564
Why would a person who openly uses AI be witch hunted for AI usage?
Seems to me the only ones who would get caught in such a witch hunt are those trying to pass off their AI generated works as non-AI generated, only to get caught by the watermark. Hmm....

>>109545502
Why do you obsess over the way it was produced?
Do you also take this level of scrutiny with every single meal you eat knowing millions of animals are brutally violently slaughtered for your fat virtue signaling ass?
How about the literal child sweatshop slaves in china making your clothes?
How about the other slaves making your silicon who cant even kill themselves to escape because of their anti suicide nets?
Leftists love selective moral outrage because they have no actual fucking morals, its ALWAYS just an appeal to the retarded group and an overt “hey guys I’m a good boy” signal to the rest of you fucking herd animals.
Worthless gol trash, and the jews are right about you.

>>109545508
>Yet you'll still eat up that slop.

Not necessarily. I can make my own homemade burgers. I can take out the brioche buns, gouda chese, Caesar dressing, tomatoes, lettuce, onions and pickles and grill my own.

>>109545594
>calling me leftist again for no reason
And why do you obsess with consumers not knowing something is AI generated? Why does the watermark make you recoil so?

>>109545604
dont play dumb socrates, its obvious youre a leftist

>>109545564
If they use ai and clearly declare that they have used it then no one will dox them
If they want to pass their slop as human made then they deserve being doxed

>>109545611
how so? because I think people should know something is AI generated? lol

>>109545594
this
when framed like this, ai if anything is less exploitative. would you rather depend on cheap labor from the 3rd world or AI? leftists are showing they'd prefer the former. sounds like imperialism to me lmao

>>109545632
so then the watermark is even more perfect for you guys, its less exploitative and you can wear it as a badge of honor

>>109544599
Shitskins didn't like this one

>>109545627
Because you repeat the same tired leftist/Reddit talking points and anti-AI FUD. It's obvious you're one of these ideologically driven people whipped up in the anti-AI hysteria and following the whole conspiracy theory about AI being used to usher in cyberpunk technofascism whatever. You are a bad faith actor.

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>>109545632
> leftists are showing they'd prefer the former. sounds like imperialism to me lmao
It reminds me of the Confederate States.
That wanted to keeps human slaves even though machines were making slavery obsolete.

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>>109545651
>bad faith actor
>my insane bad faith position of: "people should know if something is AI generated or not"

>>109545651
>>109545655
>>109545645
bro tell me how to get those thielbux

>>109545290
Yeah, it's over and people are too fucking dumb to see it. If you arent rising you are falling.

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>"I made this banger song with my own two hands, it's excellent isn't it? That's what I call talent. I'll take that Grammy Award now, thank you."
>"Sure, if the award you're looking for is Excellence In Typing a Paragraph and clicking Generate. We know that was generated in Suno."
>"Drats, and I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for that pesky watermark!"

>>109545604
Answer the questions fuckhead
You wont because I just BTFO your stupid ass. Worthless dogshit loser.

>>109545655
It's exactly the same situation. It's fucking mind blowing how absurd it all is.

>>109545602
>I can
>I can
Doesn't mean you exclusively do. You’re an evil dishonest capitalist piece of shit. No consistency in your retarded beliefs at all.

Look just admit it. The entire reason the watermark makes you seethe is because you know that the products AI make; no matter how good; are ultimately valueless because of the ease at which they can be produced. It can be the best thing ever, and it can be done again, in an instant.

Therefore you NEED to hide the fact AI was used.
And despite being pro-ai yourself, you would NEVER in a million years, pay for something if you knew it was AI generated.

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>>109545670
>We know that was generated in Suno
Prove it.
You guys have gone on witchhunts and banned real human artists.
There is no foolproof way to tell ai from non-ai.

>>109545655
Honestly its very similar.
I work in media production and AI is a fucking lifesaver, I can gen video of talent without a reshoot, synthesize voice, generate gay social ads, and not have to bust my ass doing it for half of my week for my shitty wage.
Leftist zombies want everyone to suffer and slave away so it makes them feel better.
They are objectively evil and worthless “people”.

>>109545703
>are ultimately valueless because of the ease at which they can be produced
That's not how it works

>>109545660
Why arent you campaigning for child slavery stickers on all apple products then?

>>109545715
Because of witchhunts like this, "real" art has become worthless. That's the funny part to me.

if ai is so great then why are you even afraid that your slop is being tagged?

>>109544617
you have never had a job in all 43 years of your life.

>>109545744
Because it gives power tripping assholes more reasons to be a dictator.

This artwork was tagged with Photoshop >>109545715 and it still got banned.

>>109544744
>Until [consumer] hardware is powerful enough
Anon...

>>109545594
>>109545679
ok lets answer it then.
>Why do you obsess over the way it was produced?
because i can?
>Do you also take this level of scrutiny with every single meal you eat knowing millions of animals are brutally violently slaughtered for your fat virtue signaling ass?
animals are bred for food,i don't care.
>How about the literal child sweatshop slaves in china making your clothes?
>How about the other slaves making your silicon who cant even kill themselves to escape because of their anti suicide nets?

That's just how industry at scale is, good luck avoiding any of it. Of course it's bad, but what can I really do? Pretty much just hope automation gets good enough I suppose. Or I can buy handmade stuff and spend way more than I'd be comfortable with on clothing.

At the end of the day, all I can do is make an informed decision on what I chose to buy.
I can buy free-range eggs, buy humane meat or whatever, go green etc etc...
So following that that theme, yes. I want that little AI watermark.
Feel free to cry about it though.

>>109545744
Because you’re too stupid to actually judge anything and shouldn’t even have been taught to read, let alone have an opinion on the literal cutting edge of technology.

>>109545715
You're right. We should get rid of the Sex Offender registry too since there have been false convictions too. Is that what you're sayign?

>>109545770
>I can
Theres that wimpy little dishonest bitch word again, faggot.
Completely amoral, thoughtless, soulless zombie.

>>109545786
>fuck i can't refute anything!
I accept your concession

>>109545777
People get that label for peeing in public, really bad example on your part

>>109545777
>intentionally dishonest interpretation
How leftists act like this openly and overtly and see nothing wrong with it is why they are worth far less than someone who is self aware.
Objectively inferior, subhuman even.

>>109545790
Your image does not correlate your post text

>>109545794
Oh, I can.

AI music is cheap and easy to produce but serves a similar function to things like throwaway jingles or muzak. The con is you had to hire people to write and play those shitty little ditties, now some guy can make them at home. However this is ultimately an inevitable labor cycle. Same goes for visual art and drawings . You could hire a film studio or photographer, now you can use AI. You could commission an artist to draw for you, but the quality is different, the AI has its sheen and hallmarks already so even without this watermark it already has characteristics that make it super obvious.

The tech isn't the problem but the government's handling of economic consequences of the tech is. Its used to expose cheap people and has that cheap look to it. However, if the result is good, if theres meaningful alteration to something and AI is used in the creation of it, I'm ambivalent to it as long as its good. Its like any other tool in that regard but it is also a crutch for lazy people, and corporate greed in the US, more of an indictment on the US system than anything else.

>>109545810
glad we're on the same page

>>109545723
So you'd willingly pay full price for AI generated content? If, for example, you needed a simple poster done, you'd be willing to spend $100 for an AI generated one?

>>109545796
So you DO think there shouldn't be a registry because of this? Yes or no?
>>109545806
How is it dishonest? My point is outlier false positive/decisions shouldn't prevent the systems we have for informing people of things they feel they need to know

Bernie Sanders wants to ban AI. Anti-AI is a quintessentially leftist cause. They are the ones claiming it is a plot by Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Trump, Sam Altman etc to enslave everyone, that it consumes all the water and so on. The left and their close associates the jews love to do these little games where they deflect. Textbook left wing behavior ITT.

>>109545851
That's not the cost of it. Why pay $100 for something that doesn't cost that to make? It seems you want to benefit the artist class artificially by inflating their market value. Why should a working class person disempower themselves when they can automate time and labor energy via AI instead of paying an overpriced graphic designer who sneers at them from his gentrified loft?

>>109545852
Its dishonest because the analogy is completely false.
Using AI to ease production of something otherwise tedious and inefficient isnt akin to raping someone, you fucking idiot.

>>109545851
I would generate it myself

>>109545886
Because when they “own it” they are harassed by sub 80iq redditors who hate them for existing.

>>109545862
>still cannot state a single reason as to why letting consumers know if something is a bad thing, so has to reduce it down to left vs right

>>109545891
It's not about ai or raping someone. It's about systems of informing people existing despite not always being 100% accurate. You completely ignored the point of my post.

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>>109545862
>Bernie Sanders wants to ban AI.

A temporary safety hiatus on development is not an outright ban.

>>109545904
No? I see tons and tons of people on twitter that openly generate images of anime tiddies with people who follow and like it with no harassment. You are just a scammer

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>>109545885
>>109545901
>I would generate it myself
>Why pay $100 for something that doesn't cost that to make?

Alright, glad we could agree the outputs of AI are valueless. You're both unwilling to spend money on an AI-generated product, much like anyone else with a brain.
Now we can all come to an understanding as to why AI watermarks only make sense.

>>109545886
theres a bias against ai because they politicize it
>leftists - AI is trump elon conspiracy
>right wing - AI is chink jeet scam

>>109545936
You are not entitled to anyone's money.

>>109545508
I should be able to know the name race and political identity of the creator to make an informed decision on if i wish to look at it. Why would these need to be hidden?

>>109545904
There is an entire universe of subreddits dedicated to generative AI. Those subreddits have not been brigaded or banned and are operating smoothly.

>>109545949
Of course I'm not. But neither are you. Hence your AI content needs to be watermarked. :)

>>109545953
Trump used to have his own subreddit. Give it time dude, you somehow continue to underestimate them.

>>109545932
No. If you use AI to create your art that's no different than using photoshop, CGI vs handdrawn, digital vs analog music etc. Just get used to tech advancing. All cartoons are now CGI because its faster and easier. That's how it is. You don't see handdrawn Disney slop anymore, and when you do its because of sweatshops in Korea drawing them, so it relies on exploitative labor otherwise. Tech is used to automate things and make life easier for the worker, and you have to adapt really.

You are biased and would reject a work you previously deemed high-quality if you learned it was created by AI, even though you found it excellent when you thought it was produced without assistance, simply because you are fundamentally driven by an ideology and a desire to signal your opposition to this technology. It is a purely reactionary response.

>>109545852
Someone charged and convicted of the crime of a sexual nature is the same as using ai? Also yes. The sex offender registry is pointless. It doesnt stop anything and has been used for countless murders. Someone killing multiple kids is watched less than a kid who peed in public

>>109545918
Those systems are doing extremely different things though, asshole.

>>109545985
if you can't be bothered to make it, why should i consume it or pay for it?

still using claude :^)

>>109546005
>renting your AI
eternal underclass

>>109545985
Your reply has nothing to do with my post

>>109546004
If you are offering to get rid of money I'm game

>>109545953
Why would you suggest reddit is reflective of anything honest or true?
Ah I get it, because you're from there.

>>109546005
Same
>>109546024
Sorry dumbass I’m still saving up for my own datacenter. Only $99,999,980 to go.

>>109546005
K3 mogs

>>109546038
Nta but it does, and you’re too much of a weak bitch to prioritize truth over your fragile ego.

>>109546118
>Nta
I'm sure

>>109546137
Just keep dictating reality rather than observe it, stupid fuck.
You can tell I’m not him because I curse a lot and he doesnt.
Pattern recognition is beyond the capacity of a stupid faggot leftist

>>109545985
>If you use AI to create your art that's no different than using photoshop, CGI vs handdrawn, digital vs analog music etc
>its no different, that's why i cant tell you i used AI
looooooool

Watermarking AI is as bad as flags on X and discriminatory against Indians.

>>109545275
I use Blender all the time. I don't mind people knowing I used it to make something.

>>109545508
>Technically not. They are trade secrets.
...And that's bad. Good think that we are making some progress in Ai department, at least!

>noooo you can't watermark my aislop so I can fail to hide the fact it's aislop

>>109545354
I mean, a lot of people can't afford to build a PC anymore because AI companies are buying up all the chips, so their reactions aren't impossible to understand considering it's perceptibly had a negative effect on their life from their point of view.

>>109545275
>but what about these unrelated things
Amazing how aijeets are all against this and it's exceedingly obvious that it's just because they won't be able to scam people with ai generated garbage they claim to be hand-made anymore.

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>>109544491
>>109544599
>>109545354
>>109544552
>NOOOOOOOOOO PEOPLE KNOW I'M A FRAUD AND HATE ME FOR IT THIS IS LITERALLY NINETEEN EIGHTY FOUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRR

>Elderly woman gets a video call from what looks like a famous TV host
>AI-generated famous person: "Hello, elderly woman, I am a famous TV host here to tell you congratulations! You've been selected to win a $10 million dollar prize! Just share your financial details with us and the money will be routed straight to your bank account!"
>App's disclosure message pops up: [Our AI detector has detected that this content is AI generated and not real, and may be a scam attempt.]
>Elderly woman: "Heh, scam better next time, chump." *ends video call*

>>109546349
NOOOOOOOOOO THATS BAD BECAUSE....

SAAARRRR YOU BLOODY BASTARD

>>109546178
Funny you say that.
There are tons of people in the VFX/Hollywood scene who turn their nose up at Blender.

If you start watermarking it, expect the haters to come and hound you.

>>109544552
>Gets asked reasonable question
>Replies with seething and uncontrollable urge to murder people's dogs
Brown

Still waiting for OP to post hand

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>>109546390
I have a hand for you.

>>109545715
ironically that reddit mod is right
if you're not capable of unique expression with a distinct style and can only copy what came before, you're not a real artist
it's the easiest tell for non-technical people since AI only generates what already exists within a probabilistic construct. with a unique style, AI would have to be prompted with the username/artist name to emulate their work, but their style came first and had to be fed into AI and therefore could not just be AI generated, it's an easy filter against posers
maybe this will encourage actual creativity again, so based

>>109546430
>>109546669
I accept your concession

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>>109546679
AI can make any style. Try again cuck.

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>>109546692
DYEPVG (do you even play video games)?

>>109546695
you can't even conceive of the style I'm thinking of, so you wouldn't even be able to prompt it

>>109544491
>>109544552
>>109544599
>>109545354
>>109545936
What a worthless brown retard lmao

>>109546358
Snobby retards insisting you use modeling program X instead of Y isn't anywhere near the same situation as generated slop being outed to those who can't catch it by eye.

>>109546430
>>109546669
>SAAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE HAND SAAAR BLOODY BENCHOD RACIS SAR BITCH

>>109546728
And that style is what?
Anime? Stop motion? Photorealism?

>>109546754
And why do you think those snobs exist in the first place?
They want to gatekeep an idea to themselves and frown any competition. Especially when the tool making it (Blender) is free.

The exact same reaction with AI.
It gives everyone the power to make cutting edge images or videos without costing millions of dollars or having to babysit humans for 5 years.

>>109544491
i think this is so in the future they can avoid training on slop

>>109546859
They never trained on slop.

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>>109546859
See Will Smith spaghetti evolution.
The models kept evolving exponentially.

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>>109544552
>But also you're a faggot.
>>109544599
>I have a right to know what country your from as well. How do I know indian or russian hands didn't type this?
Ah, okay, this makes sense now. Any policy or legislative change that more clearly identifies AI output just exposes you for what you actually are - a projecting brown sub-human who can't even speak English without a chatbot.

>>109545354
okay i can finally take off the fake down to earth attitude i had in that reply. i didn't expect my bait to actually work... i still love AI but niggers like you are doing such a good job at justifying why people hate it's users lmao.

>>109546949
What do you mean you don't want state mandated doxing? You must be an indian goy!!!

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>>109547179
>called out for subhuman behavior
>no attempt to refute or deny, immediately doubles down with the same behavior - straw-manning, seething and projecting in the same way he has for the entire thread

>>109544491
It's for people with an IQ over 20, so we can skip everything you say or do without having to take the 0.2 seconds it takes to do so right now.

>>109545526
That was already thoroughly debunked in another thread.
>absolute state of AI psychosis

>>109544491
vibetranny having a melty

>>109545275
If you're genuinely creating something couldn't you simply remove the watermark yourself?
Are you incapable of even doing that?

>>109546892
>one shot
vs
>10 shots put together

>iGPU
vs
>top-end gaymer-class GPU x 2

>generated in 30 seconds
vs
>generated in 30 hours

>will smith
vs
>generic nigger

Do you never get tired of your lies?

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>>109544491
>use western AI to generate image
>hey Chinese AI remove the watermark
Problem?

>>109544552
>To create implies a will.
According to what? Youre just making shit up.

>>109545255
Selling/buying art is always a scam.

>>109547401
Do you ever get tired of being dumb as fuck? I can generate the video on the right in 10 minutes, moron.
Why do you “people” so arrogantly spew opinions on things you don’t even know how to use?

>>109547420
>remove the watermark
SynthID?

>>109547456
Do it and prove it (you won't because you can't).

>>109545594
>Why do you obsess over the way it was produced?
deliberately didnt answer when asked if you would use this site if every post was ai generated, answering it honestly would dismiss this question instantly as obviously retarded concern trolling

>Do you also take this level of scrutiny with every single meal you eat knowing millions of animals are brutally violently slaughtered for your fat virtue signaling ass?
yes, but also, false equivalence, you have to eat to live, you suffer fairly immediate deleterious health effects if you eat something especially bad and people generally actually do scrutinize what they eat pretty hard and how animals are treated which is why we have humongous bodies of regulation across the world involving food production and animal welfare
>brutally
feminine, emotional, and extremely leading language, not the language of someone who believes what they say but the language of someone desperate to convince someone else

>How about the literal child sweatshop slaves in china making your clothes?
if i were rich i would only buy tailored clothes so yes same scrutiny

>How about the other slaves making your silicon who cant even kill themselves to escape because of their anti suicide nets?
scrutinize this pretty hard too yes, i support local industry and paying fair wages that allow people to live lives worth living

>Leftists love selective moral outrage because they have no actual fucking morals, its ALWAYS just an appeal to the retarded group and an overt “hey guys I’m a good boy” signal to the rest of you fucking herd animals.
you only know about the suicide nets and battery farmed animals because of leftists

i am not even sure YOU know what point you were trying to make here, you seem to have invented an incoherent caricature of someone and then became very angry when the person you were talking to was actually completely consistent and not very selective at all

>>109545546
>on my photoshop projects
Well that's the problem, eh? These AI generations belong to Claude. You're just copying the output. Don't want a watermark on an image? Make it yourself. You won't.

>>109547766
like Adobe doesn't work the same way

>>109546848
trvke alert, he didn't like that one

>>109547810
>like Adobe doesn't work the same way
Buy some crayons.

>>109544491
>suno limits downloads
suno link downloaders exists

>>109544507
“Not X but Y.”

OP got yeeted by university, because the essay had so many references to goblins.

>>109547922
Fuck these hoes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A51MsR4OJBw

>>109547427
Creating is intent. You can not create without intent

>>109545271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY

>>109544491
>THE AI COMPANY VILL RECEIVE ROYALTIES FROM THE ANSWERS (YOU) ARE PROFITING FROM
>AND YOU VILL GIVE IT TO THEM

>>109547949
Says who? Baswd on what? Atoms combine and create new things constantly without intent. Light refracts on the rain and creates rainbows without the intent to do so. Wind and temperature changes create tornadoes without intent. Volcanoes create islands without intent. Your whore mom created you without intent. I think youre just retarded.

Ai VibeGODS make reddit cry

>>109544491
Dude, you're digital sharecropper who loves paying corporations to fuck you in the ass. You will own nothing and you will be happy. Shut up and take it like a good boy.

>>109544499
based lel

>>109547684
look at this reddit aids tranny

>>109545885
Wait till this guy finds out about how corpos have been pricing shit relative to cost

>>109545936
Look at Marx over here with his mud pie theory of value.

>>109547684
>if i were rich i would only buy tailored clothes

lmao no the fuck you wouldn't, virtue signaling faggot. you jews always do this deflection shit

>people generally actually do scrutinize what they eat pretty hard and how animals
people are buying hot dogs and mcnuggets after all the pink slime memes. youre still buying iphones. you can claim all this but your behavior says otherwise

>>109548085
So you're saying you would pay full price for AI generated content?

>defend AI and youre a jeet
>criticize AI and youre a redditor/troon

I'm just going to use it and remain neutral

>>109545594
>Why do you obsess over the way it was produced?
Because i do. None of your business.

the anti-watermark side went out for their street poo break and STILL hasn't made a single good point as to why consumers shouldn't be able to know whether something is AI generated or not, because there are none to be made and it's ENTIRELY anti-consumer

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>>109548109
>A wrench costs $10
>Why is the car mechanic charging me more money to fix my car? It's just a cheap tool!

>>109548404
>maybe if I make a stupid comparison, I'll look good. Time to try it I guess! We've been doing a bad job making any arguements thus far!

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>>109548442
Wrong.
The cost to make the Wrench doesn't cover the cost to MASTER it.

Hence why a Car mechanic exists in the first place. They have more knowledge about the tool and its purpose then what came in the Wrench package.

Same applies with AI and AI Artists. They can absolutely charge full price because their knowledge and expertise of the tool is much greater than the product itself.

>>109548205
>STILL hasn't made a single good point as to why consumers shouldn't be able to know whether something is AI generated or not
Because the other anon was right, and we have companies like KFC that hide their original recipe because it's literally their trade secret.
It's not anti-consumer when KFC still competes in offering value or speed that the other businesses struggle with.

>>109548205
you dont listen to reason

>>109545769
It will happen, 20 years ago no one thought that you would be able to plat ps2 games on your phone.

Maybe try to get used that change takes time, ADHD zoomer.

>>109548491
oh wow it's this fucking ugly image again for the thousandth time
for people with infinity at their fingertips you idiots sure are lazy with your images, huh?
>hurr durr mastery

mastery of what exactly? writing prompts?
oh wait. no.
you can use an LLM for that.

And once models develop enough, what purpose do you provide exactly?
You idiots LOVE to go on about skill, labor etc because once again you CANNOT reconcile with the fact that you don't actually provide anything.
It is 100% the "tool". In this case a very active tool in which you are not needed.

Again, I ask you- Would you be willing to pay full price for AI- generated content? You didn't answer me, because you're answer is a resounding no. You know full well you would not, because you are aware of the labor involved in using the tool-- which is minimal, if any at all.

When models are good enough, you won't be needed.
Someone who needs something done will go to an AI provider.
They're not going to bother going to an "ai artist".
They ARE the ai artist. Not you. Sorry.

>>109548516
Congratulations, you said absolutely nothing relevant to any point being made.
>b-b-but food analogy!

>>109548576
And you are anti-consumer. Prove me wrong.

AI fans are some of the biggest whiners and bitches out there, it's no surprise they're mostly thirdies, too.

>>109548603
Meanwhile the newest card has reverted to 4gb vram, something considered low a decade ago. It's not a "can technology possibly achieve it" question, dumbass. Our greatest ally simply won't allow it.

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>>109548646
>mastery of what exactly? writing prompts? oh wait. no. you can use an LLM for that.
Who said AI Art is just a prompt?
Photography uses a single button and yet there's still a diverse range of knowledge skills still needed to get the perfect picture.

>And once models develop enough, what purpose do you provide exactly?
And what purpose did Photographers had when Cameras shot in color over black and white?
Your "gotcha" backfired. Loser.

>When models are good enough, you won't be needed.
See above, dumbass.
Cameras kept evolving and yet the Photographer is still in demand.

>>109548753
>bringing up cameras
>real physical objects
>where you take pictures of real physical things
>in real life
>with real variables
>comparing this to... AI generation
>bro it's the same!!!!

Meta is literally training their AI on employee keystrokes. The model offerings of the future will be multi-model agents that refine and execute with skill-- you're not needed at all.

Again, I ask, are you willing to pay full price for AI generated content? Yes or no.

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>>109548646
>Congratulations, you said absolutely nothing relevant to any point being made.

It is relevant. Companies are allowed to keep secrets, especially if they believe it's crucial to how they market themselves or deliver a product.

Nintendo does the same thing. They hide the specs of their hardware and even the announcement of their games are tight lip.

Are they being anti-consumer when the final gameplay and hardware work as intended?

>>109548807
>They hide the specs of their hardware and even the announcement of their games are tight lip.
Are you seriously comparing this to hiding AI usage? Wow. Jeets are getting desperate.

>>109548801
>Meta is literally training their AI on employee keystrokes.
You can read cookbooks or download recipes off the internet for free.
And yet, did KFC suddenly become obsolete?

Again, you keep ignoring mastery and experience are a real selling point.
Anyone can open a fried chicken restaurant. But without the experience it's still going to fail.

>Again, I ask, are you willing to pay full price for AI generated content? Yes or no.
Yes.

>>109548838
>back to food analogy because cannot defend his camera analogy
jesus christ
just give up man

>>109548832
But according to you, it's anti-consumer for Nintendo to hide the amount of games they're making!

Even though hiding those game announcements is how they can do surprise launches and events which fans love.

AI Artists are thus given the same luxury. It is out right to not disclose how we want to express ourselves because that is the product we want to sell.

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>>109548857
>AI Artists are thus given the same luxury. It is out right to not disclose how we want to express ourselves because that is the product we want to sell.

actual comedy gold
ladies and gentleman, the smartest AI jeet on 4chan

>>109548867
I accept your defeat luddite.

>>109548878
sorry poojeet, i just... i'm not going to buy your slop, sorry haha
i'm just going to use an ai subscription to do whatever it is you were trying to sell me

i know you have "skill" but these tools... they make anyone an ai artist and i have the best tools so im better than you, sorry buddy just how it is :)

maybe next reincarnation you'll get to be something decent!

It’s not like watermarks is going to put a stop to all the scamming anyway- scammers already prey on people who probably wouldn’t think to check in the first place.

>>109548952
true, but scammers always want a bigger pool of victims

>>109548952
if most slop can be identified cheaply by metadata, tooling can be added on top to filter it out. "you are spending time on something created by an unskilled dude that doesn't understand what he is doing", that's valuable information to have up front

>>109544491
Watermarking exists to make it easy for AIs to avoid training on the slop they drown out all human connection on the internet with. It's literally part of handing over the internet to the bots and isolating the humans from each other. Only the corpos and the state may benefit from universal free communication. Plebs like you must read your hallucinations alone and be happy.

>>109548491
There are children and africans doing what you do. Typing a prompt is a skill every 6 year old "masters" when they learn to find youtube videos on the tablet their mother hands them. Anyone paying you to do it is a trend riding sap, and youre a conman with an inflated ego.

>>109548491
>>109548753

you claim that you have mastery overprompts but you cant get ai images that dont look like reheated slop

ITT: jeets on suicide watch

AI watermarking is bad because it'll make people believe images without watermarks are real. Which means the more sophisticated actors that are either able to remove the watermarks or able to generate without watermarks will be even more effective.

Corposlop AI watermarking is based
Total local model victory

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>>109547515
Here's a better quality will smith gen I made like 4 days ago dipshit. Go back to fucking reddit and bitch about your lack of tech knowledge there, you're in the wrong place.
>>109547684
Dishonest cocksucking leftist piece of shit, that's all you are, and that's all I have to say to you, get fucked.

>>109547684
>only leftists think foxconn suicide nets are bad, because le ebil rightwingers just hate everybody!!
It's embarrassing how narrowminded and childlike your worldview is.
Post proof that "the only reason we know about suicide nets is because of leftists" you narcissistic clown.

>>109550034
damn jeet really impressive stuff, I can't believe the four neurons in your brain were able to come up with a will smith gen, honestly how on earth did you even come up with that? man, you are the peak of ai artists

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>>109550110
Aw you gonna cry that I know how to build a fucking workflow and press generate? Or are you mad that despite your bitching it still looks better than anything you've ever produced in your worthless life?
Have another one, talentless nigger. I'm an employed 3D artist btw, this is just for fun. Always makes me laugh how the talentless scum of society are the ones crying about AI, meanwhile all the artists and designers I know in the professional sphere use AI daily, as it acts as an extension of their talent.
Sad that you don't have any, but that is in fact your own fault.

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>>109544599
>anonymity
>safety

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>>109550133
So impressive bro! +1 izzat for you!

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>>109550156
damn nice workflow dawg is that for your 256mb 960? Cute stuff
Now, lets see those gens

>>109550034
>>109550133
>>109550191
>trying to flex with... will smith gens
>all with 4chan default filenames so likely not even yours

just stop it man, you've lost enough izzat

>>109550133
>Have another one, talentless nigger. I'm an employed 3D artist btw, this is just for fun.
holy cornball

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>>109550229
Aw the worthless leeches are getting uppity today! I know that jealousy over my 5090 must suck, but if it makes you feel any better you'll never touch one to begin with, so might as well stop thinking about it.

>>109550249
not sure why you're talking about yourself like that when you clearly don't own one
ah well, i hope the internet cafe you're at is air conditioned

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>>109550291
Y u mad tho?

>>109550322
Imagine thinking $5000 is a flex

I am fucking stupid, broke and girlfriendless and my car cost like $4000.

>>109550249
>SEETHING in his own chicken vindaloo
>>109550322
>picture of a fucking box

lol okay jeet that's enough, i think it's time to go shit on the street and calm down

>>109550329
>I am fucking stupid, broke and girlfriendless and my car cost like $4000.
If thats true then $5000 is a flex. (bought for $3600 though)

>>109544491
just use klein edit 9b to remove all watermarks

works on any watermark kek

>If I just call him indian enough he'll go away

>>109550348
>it works
:^)

>>109550382
Alright alright, I'll sell you the box for $500.

>>109544491
they're hoping to avoid new laws by proactively doing stupid shit. just wait for china and open models and stop crying.
the west is a joke now.

>>109550339
no fuck off and die, there's a wallmart to going to bed and shart lmao.

>>109550674
>there's a wallmart to going to bed and shart
yep indian

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AI is just a tool. If you don't like it then you'll just get replaced.

*heavy lesbian sex trap beat starts playing*

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>>109544961
>WATERMARK UNDETECTABLE BY HUMAN EARS
Anon, you are so deaf is better for you to receive the final vaxx.

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>>109545357
>>109545288
>>109545301
>>109545319

>>109550828
>i think it's time to go shit
yup dumbfuckistani

>>109550893
are you able to read at all, or do you run every post through a translator first?

>>109550899
Still you.

This is an unironic /g/ thread
I thought this is where the smart anons were