>You will be able to land your Linux distro by the end of this thread.• Google what a `desktop environment` is, this is like the core layer that will make your Linux look AND function like Windows XP if you choose the wrong one, or will make your Linux look like MacOS if you choose correctly.•• Most Linux distributions will be packaged around what desktop environment they come with, e.g. Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu are the same Ubuntu OS packaged by Ubuntu themselves, but they come with Gnome/KDE/Xfce (respectively) desktop environments.••• Google different desktop environments and choose the right look and feel of the system for yourself next steps will depend on it.• Now that you decided what kind of look you want, you have 2 choices: 1. Choose distribution that comes prepackaged with it, benefits are they are unit tested to hell and more stable.2. You get naked arch and assemble it from binaries, and install any desktop environment you want, it will be buggy, crashy, your life will revolve around fixing your computer after it updates. No you do not need bleeding edge libraries. If this is you, fuck off here >>109529010• Congrats you picked option 1, so what are the distro options out there. Study this image:>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions#/media/File:Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svgAs you have just learned there few main branches of linux:1. Debian2. Fedora/RedHat3. Arch4. nobody cares, shut upEach distro class spreads out to subdistros, sometimes a subdistro becomes so popular for its stability and good packaging, ease of use, that it becomes a launching pad for others: Ubuntu which is under Debian.• Ubuntu on top of having several versions of itself like I mentioned earlier (Kubuntu, Xubuntu and like 4 others), is forked into:• • Mint• • PopOS• • Original SteamOS (New SteamOS is forked from Archlinux)
>BBUH MUH ADOBE Spin up a VM retard, use it like the toilet that it is, and pause the VM after you are done, benefits are you can pirate everything and not worry about it being corrupted, activate windows for free, torrent adobe etc.>gayms?Solved with Proton, steam is actively improving it, the massive move to linux means developers will start to respect the platform and the more people switch the more deliberate developers will be, and will maybe even ensure that translation layers like proton are compatible.>just dualbootno retard, that is not a solution, that is a pain in the ass, and its a total cancer having 2 EFI drives, one of your systems will get corrupted eventually, just use a VM••••So how do you pick a distro? You need a use case. If you are above 28 you might value your time, and might have more business uses where WSL2 and unsolicited updates in the middle of your workflow are not appreciated. Look I can go on and on, the answer is Ubuntu if you are ok with Gnome, answer is Kubuntu if you want it to look good and be stable.If you are concerned with Ubuntu having some packages older since its long term stable LTS, research Flatpacks>Flatpack - includes all packages the latest version of an application requires, its isolated from the system.••••So if someone cries muh outdated packages - this was solved years ago with flatpacks, this is not even a workaround, this ensures the game crashes and not your system
>IDK man still hard to chooseokay •narrow it down to 5 options, •download their ISO's, •go to Oracle and download VMWare Workstation Pro it's fully free•Install each ISO as a VM and try them out>but muh distrosea.comNo, those are live images you cannot do anything on them, they lack internet connection, in a VM you can live with it, you can test it, you wont game on it obviously but you can try things out, simulate your future migration so once you pull the trigger the process is smooth.
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bump to help zoomers
OP is a faggot and a trannyinstall mint if you're retarded and fedora if you're notsimple as
>>109548614>install mint if you're retarded and fedora if you're notmint could be fine but it looks like shit, but if you want windows 10 like UI then its finefedora has newer packages but it is probably less stable than ubuntu, however it will absolutely be better than windows, stability wise it will be more stable than windows, not a bad option eitheralso op not traynny or fag
>>109548673Tossed Debian with xfce on an old laptop, performs better than Fedora did; Fedora works fine for newer hardware though.
>>109546791
I use arch + kde, and i never update the system unless i have no choice.You can install kde without any software, then install what you need.You only need to remember sudo -Sy chromium then you get ask AI to install anything you need.
Disregard all my previous posts, I suck cocks
>>109549094if you didnt use Arch you would be able to update it whenever without any issues, let that sink inyou are scared to update
>>109546648>it becomes a launching pad for othersInto literal outer space with no other humansUse Debian or Fedora if you know other humans stuck in red hat land and be done with their tricks
>>109548836kek>>109550105stop impostering asshoel
>>109551059ubuntu is better packaged debian
>>109551082Been there done that. It’s not. We can talk about it or I’ll see you in a few years.
>>109546756at this point theres no reason to use windows anymore since its become so utterly broken and shitty to use, linux has improved so much over the past 10 years it is absolutely insane. install linux mint or some shit and get on with your life
>>109546648Best thread on /g/ right now. Been on Debian since 2020 and haven't looked back.Just need some help with something /fglt/ wouldn't even acknowledge ( >>109499166 ). Wat do?t. Zoomer btw.>>109551082Yes, but snap.
Mint gave me no regrets.
>>109551087explain im listening
>>109551082cute stache line
>>109546648>"ooh i installed linux">"cool what distro">"i chose ubuntu"congrats you chose the microsoft windows of linux distros, straight corporate slop with snap bloatware built right in, people who install this shit instead of something else have to be fucking crazy in the head or something, at least pick fedora or something that doesn't use some bloatware proprietary package manager
>>109551207spend a week as a trans girl and you will understand, put yourself in my shoes or in this case heels. if you hate trans people stick to windows. anyways
>>109551207nah fedora is now the ms corpo distro. why? because it works unlike ubuntu.
>>109551082snap is terrible, you do sudo apt install and then without warning it just installs the snap version without your permission"ooh but you can remove snaps!!" yeah but then you might as well just use debian testing, removing it has its own issues
>>109551199The base is Debian. Are you wanting to have a usable system or just play around with Ubuntu added services?
>>109546648>Gentoo not listedFuck off, newfag. Fuck I hate summer. Can't wait until you zoomies go the fuck back to school and we get our board back
when will nvidia not suck? tried cachy a couple months ago - ASS
>>109551235amazon spyware, terrible corporate decisions like ubuntu edge, both canonical and red hat are for profit fedora at least puts the community first, most of red hat's corporate stuff is in RHEL and other enterprise products, canonical instead focuses all the corporate stuff on ubuntu
>>109551264Hope for the new mesa vulkan driver to mature, also zink, apparently mesa is defaulting to zink for opengl so desktop performance is laughable>when will nvidia not suckprobably never
>>109551264when cattle like you stop willingly paying whatever they tell you to pay to buy their trash just because>muh gayming>muh crypto>muh ayy-eyeso never
>>109551268
>>109551441So you mean in the imaginary world where powerful GPUs are no longer necessary at all? Yeah I guess GPU drivers wouldn't be an issue in that case, superb observation.
>>109551490nice powerful gpu you got there. would be a shame if drivers sucked on it.
>>109551496They don't suck because I don't use linux
>>109551507sucks to suck. now the rest of the os sucks. enjoy your nvidia driver telemetry container cuck.
>>109551517No need to be mad, I'm sure the year of desktop linux is now since Windows is so awful!
>>109551490I said nothing about GPUs not being necessary. My point was about you willingly paying whatever they tell you to pay because of reasons they tell you you need to care about.
>>109551540uff but k2 is going to save it!
>>109546756>is a pain in the ass, and its a total cancer having 2 EFI drives, one of your systems will get corrupted eventually, just use a VMYou are either misinformed, or enjoy niggeriffic fear-mongering. I've been dual booting on multiple PCs for over 16 years. Maintain a half-ass Windows program that somehow garnered 5,000+ users, but none of them want to die. Need to rebuild, thoroughly test, then push a new release once or twice a year.Keep all my boxes on legacy boot, half of the drives are for GNU, 2 run Win 7, and 1 runs Win 8.1. Exclusively daily drive RHEL family distros and Debian. Boot into the Windows partitions as much as I update the aforementioned software, and have never encountered even one minor issue.
>>109551264sorry but what are you on about, I have been doing ML using Ubuntu and containers for like 2 years now without any issues what so ever, explain yourself
>>109551602nothing is going to save windows, they are literally destroying their product, its like Steve could see ahead in time, people who make their own software should be making their own hardwareI have never paid for a single windows license, unless it was part of the computer i bought, which i would then hack-up to Professional/Ultimate whatever was the best version. But bro, now its just ridiculous, fucking ads everywhere, somehow my fuckthe worldaccounts entering my email from all over the world
>>109551459That is a distribution used for server environments. Not normal or even enterprise users.
>>109554587still sus
>>109554667Yeah, it is still kinda weird though, servers should use Debian or something instead of this
JSTLD(JUST SWITCH TO LINUX DUALBOOTER) GATEKEEPER HERE: WE don't WANT new Mint users. over and out ;)
>>109555050like is aid previously in my FAQ, dualboot has no use case>>109546756
>>109555173BREH BRU BRO IT JUST WERKS FUCK TERMINAL AND AND AND JUST WERKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>109555173nobody cares faggit
>>109555272it does not, what works is VM inside linux, having to turn off your system to run a toilet system is fucking retarded dude
>>109546756Great thread have a bump, but what makes you say dualboot will eventually be corrupted? I was thinking of dualbooting just to have two different environments to keep things separated and clean (i.e linux for personal usage and Windows for work)
>>109556660dualbooting should work fine with limine with minimal setup just make sure windows doesn't update ever using ultimate windows tool or whateverif windows has a major update it may decide to eat up the boot partition and make you have a bad day, linux should respect it unless you reinstall and start thrashing the other partitions of purpose
>>109551264its been working fine for me since februaryone of my main games runs in dx12 mode faster than it does in windows despite the claim of nvidia performance being gimped when it comes to dx12 performance the only part that actually does suck is android emulation not having any hardware acceleration, but I don't have a use case for it anymore lol
>>109557266>just make sure windows doesn't update ever using ultimate windows tool or whateverI plan on using LTSC and I'm a never update fag so I think I'll be alrightThanks for the explanation anon
>>109555050Mint users are sexy and turn me on
>>109556660>what makes you say dualboot will eventually be corrupted?basically windows 11 will eventually corrupt your linux, there is always some fuckery with the EFI partition, if you have 2 and one of them is windows, it will be a horrible mess an dyou might be in a situation where you are restoring EFI partition potentially corrupting some of your filesthere is no point in running dual boot, like i said just VM if you need something from windows, and exit
>>109557334>m a never update fagproblem is Windows will update regardless, unless you totally block all microsoft IP's in the hosts fileI had to do this because no matter what admin settings i used on my Win11 Pro, it would still update and restart computer while my WSL2 container was running machine learning training, this happened so many times that both of my machines have hosts block all connections from microsoft forever
>>109551082female zoomer.
>>109559364?????
>>109551082It is not. Canonical is not a trustworthy business. Ubuntu is full of spyware on top of a Debian base.
Im enjoying cachyos as of right now. I'd use Artix but I don't have the time commitment to set everything up, but if you do that's probably what I'd go for. It's really not a matter of how hard it is to set things up, because you can just ask AI to do all of that for you without touching the wiki once yourself. It's a matter of what you get in linux vs windows, & some of the shit that doesn't carry over is fairly bad or a dealbreaker in some cases.
>>109546648My favorite thread: getting mad at people for not using my favorite console/operating system.Angry neckbeards, why is GNOME literally god's chosen environment? When I asked for something, they told me to eat shit and die, what chad behavior.
>>109559392such as what?>>109561085>a dealbreaker in some cases.nothing is a dealbreaker, just spin up a VM if you desperately need something like cracked adobe
>>109561112You know what? Eat well and live
Mint is the best. It just werks.
>>109548614All Red Hat derivatives are dead to me because of something Red Hat did over 25 years ago.
>>109551082snap is a solution in search of a problem.
>>109546648is there any comfortable (and free as in free beer) way to use Google Drive and Onedrive on any Linux distro?
>>109551207Not only is Ubuntu the Windows of Linux, Canonical themselves are very much controlled by Microsoft. The whole point of a lot of their projects in the past 10 years was to bring Windows and Ubuntu closer and to give up chunks of Linux to Windows so that Microsoft can do the "embrace" phase. Next up is the extend, then after that extinguish. That's the core reason why there was a shift from GPL to MIT and from GNU utils to uutils. Microsoft wants to embrace Linux by removing as much GPL code as possible.
>>109565241Your web browser.
>>109565604you know what I mean sonto keep them on the file explorer, as you do on Windows and MacOS
>>109566469>as you doI don't use botnet services, so I wouldn't know.
>>109566759so Linux can't do this simple thing. got it.
>>109566831>Linux can't do thisYour parents named you "Linux"?
>>109566842you're super funny, thanks you for proving linux is a dead system used by apathetic people that will not help it grow
>>109566893maybe you'd prefer the friendly linux thread instead
>>109567520get out of here
>>109565241use case?
>>109567660I have a pics folder on my google drive that I keep on my Windows PC so I can post them herebasically I need that folder to be reachable when I click "FILES" on the quick reply window
>>109567710there's probably a gvfs/kio or fuse tool that can mount those into a folder>>109566893>that will not help it growmost linux users don't care if linux grows or not. we aren't salesmen
>>109565241rclone handles this on literally any distro. It mounts OneDrive via FUSE as a virtual drive so cloud files take up zero disk space and stream whenever.It has a Web GUI / Rclone Browser if you don't like command line.If you're coming from Windows, spin up a KDE Plasma or Cinnamon live USB to test it.
>>109546756>We're so superior to windows, we're the perfect replacement!>We don't have solutions so you have to emulate or boot into windows sometimes anyways, though.Or you can just use windows instead and save yourself the hassle.
>>109567804>bro just shit with the door open
>>109563585>such as what?They never tell you and if they do it's the amazon search scope from 2014.t. ubuntu 4lyf
>>109565241https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse
>>109568452in aur this is shit and fails to build some of the reqsim an arch user btw
>>109568845>im an arch user btw
>>109568878i only mentioned to show you that I am knowledgable and comfortable with linus
>>109568181>The door can be closed but it has to be made of glass if you want the toilet to flush
>>109567804its not that big of a hassle, you are just too lazy to think and to switch, but if you did you would hate your computer less, and these occasional windows only niggles would just be thatyou can pause and resume a vm, meaning you never have to restart that windows session
>>109568950>>109568950>>109568950>>109568950NON-DEBO THREAD HERE
