PBS loses 70 years of archival footage (50TB of data) after cloud storage provider goes bust. Most retarded thing here is that PBS didn't just buy 50TBs of hard drives and store it themselves. Its not that much storage space.
>>109567607Cloud is ONLY for secondary backup, never anything more important than that.
>>109567634so what's for FIRST backup? The hdd in your home that can go up in flames because you forgot a pizza in the oven?
>>109567607Cloud = futurePhysical storage = get firedIt's that simple from an exec's perspective.
>>109567607physical media gods win again
>>109567644Correct. That's why there's a second backup.
>>109567658buried in the backyard right?
>>109567607Many companies much bigger than this don't have a local backup they control of anything critical. They don't see it as a priority. Some cloud providers don't even provide a way to back it up locally (including many MS services), even though its required by GDPR. It's such a joke. Execs don't give a shit. They accept the risk. And this is the result.These kind of things are going to happen to services people actually rely on, including government services, health care and many more critical services.
>>109567607>>109567692Holy fuck I hope all my personal data gets wiped out like this. fuck advertisers.
>>109567644That's the whole point of backups dipshit, what are the odds that >Cloud provider goes defunct>House burns downHappen close enough to each other that they leave you with no time to set up a replacement?
AI did this
>>109567673No, it's my HTPC.
Did they delete all their original tape backups?
>>109567644>50TB lost forever because of 3rd party cloud storage and no other backupsWhat is that? Two or three LTO cassettes?
Someone has those tapes, they'll in a liquidity sale, they don't just vanish because going out of business, but Iron Mountain was probably managed by private equity who'll turn around and sell into another grift, because AI is the current thing.
The data still exists. The storage company went out of business but the data was stored in Iron Mountain, who still has it. Since PBS didn't have a contract with Iron Mountain, that company won't release the data. PBS is currently trying to get a court order to establish that it is the owner of the data, at which point Iron Mountain will turn the data over to PBS. It's simply a legal process to ensure PBS isn't getting data it isn't legally entitled to. This protects Iron Mountain from legal liability. There's no reason to expect that the process won't play out with PBS getting its data.Nevertheless, it's another example of why you must be careful with seeing cloud storage as some kind of magical place where data goes to live forever. In this case PBS is actually lucky that the storage company subcontracted out the storage to Iron Mountain instead of doing it themselves, or the data could have actually been lost forever.
>>109567607what the fuck is "iron mountain" data center. Why would you sign contract for such an important archival work with a literal who
>>109567607i guess the company that bought the out of business company still has the files but is refusing to give them back most likely for financial compensation extremely jewish considering its fucking pbs
>>109567881Look at it from Iron Mountain's POV. Some company called OSS signs a contract with you to store their shit. You don't know nor care what that shit it. You simply provide secure space in exchange for money. Now someone else shows up and says "that's my data, give it to me". How do you know if that's true? And that they're legally entitled to it? Iron Mountain needs a court to rule on ownership of the data, which is why that's exactly what PBS is doing. Just because two parties are going to a court for a decision on the legalities doesn't mean they're in an adversarial position. Iron Mountain wants to make sure they're only turning over data to those who are legally entitled to it. PBS wants the data they entrusted to a company that no longer exists. It's a process that protects all involved parties. No need to be like redditors turning everything into an outrage for recreation.
>>109567879>Iron Mountain Inc. is a global enterprise information management services company founded in 1951 and headquartered in Boston, Massachusetts. Its records management, information destruction, and data backup and recovery services are supplied to more than 220,000 customers in 58 countries throughout North America, Europe, Latin America, Africa, Asia, and Oceania. Iron Mountain is a component of the S&P 500 Index.I hate zoomers so much. Your ignorance of something doesn't alter reality to match whatever random shit is floating around in your head.
>>109567756current lto is 40TB per tape native capacity
>store data in one place>it goes away>"but that was the backup"why is it so hard to learn what backup means?
>>109567607Two is one and one is none
>>109567607>one copy>one locationThat's not really an archive now, is it...
>>109568032one copy can be an archive, but not a backup. an archive just means cold storage (i.e. stuff not in active use), and of course a backup means a second (or more) copy. if you only have one copy then it can't be a backup, as what is it a backup of?
>>109567731deleted them right into the dumpster when they migrated to the cloud
This wasn't all of PBS, it's one local PBS station that "lost" its archive of locally produced content. The national PBS has far more content than could fit in 50TB.
>>109567645Execs are retarded boomers with a gaggle of board-of-directors jews in their ear, being fleeces by other buzzword vaporware peddler VC startup jews, and fucking over the employees that haven't been outsourced to India yet.
The station paid $30 million for a new headquarters but wouldn't pay to have multiple backups of its archive data? Weird priorities.
>>109567607>the internet is fore- ACK
>>109568411its weird how every time government funding comes up they get super anal about reminding you the local stations are all 100% independent *wink wink* and not PBS/NPR, but any other time we all know what's up
>>109567879probably because you don't want to trust it with bob, the IT guy.
>>109567607Isn't this shit what S3 Glacier is literally for if you must go cloud?
>company goes defunct>sue themlmao you aint gettin shit backno data, no dollars, no trust
>>109567731> “most” of the data is “unique and irreplaceable,”
>>109567607This guy, OSS founder and CTO Eren Nazi, has a very (((predictable phenotype))).I don't know why I bother to look these things up anymore, we already know what tribe he belongs to.
>>109569728*Eren Niazikek autocorrect
>taps sign
>>109567644ideally, if you want to ensure that your legacy isn't erased, 4-7 forms of back up is ideal.first is the primary source, which you use dailythe second back up is on site, but in a safe location.third back up is onsite, locked up in a fire/water proof safefourth back up is off site, in sister company or corporate warehousefifth back up is in a banksixth back up can be in the cloudthe last back up is the community, which has their own copies for you to tap into if there is ever a loss of the first 6 copies.but since these businesses like to do copyright strikes, let their legacies die off, never to return again, and their names blotted out.
>>109567607>data center business goes belly uphow is that even possible in this economy
>>109567607Cloudcucks lose again>>109567634>giving your data to the cloudjewngmi
>>109567607>50TB of datathis could have fit on a dozen of hard drives that they would have own for less than 2 grands
>>109569793yeeaa, but they would have had to pay someone to run the local server and that's a big no no
>>109567607Iron Mountain is fuckhuge and handles basically all archival services pretty much worldwide. They do things like tape arrays, that are far too expensive for even medium sized companies to deal with on their own, and do so offsite so your facilities can burn down safely without loss.That's a very little amount of data and they should have had more than 1 (one) backup, but this is actually a big deal.
