>>109573834
"quality assurance" tards exist to write and run automated tests, go through bullet-point lists in a word document and draw yellow rectangles in screenshots, it's as real of a profession as a "graphic designer" (it being a basic skillset not an actual role), i wish this man the best

>>109573864
If graphic design is such a basic skillset why do code monkeys design such ugly ass interfaces

>>109573834
they're only hiring indians

>>109573834
B-but reddit and /g/ told me the devs who were fired were getting rehired back with 4 times the salary?

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If you were 25 years at a major American tech company and have not accrued enough stock in the biggest bull market in human history to retire with at least 8 digit net worth, you must be clinically retarded and your brain has to be studied at MIT

>>109573883
when someone claims that their profession is merely "graphic designer" it almost certainly means they are unemployed student or occasionally some sort of a nepo baby

imagine specifically writing unit tests for 25 years or "managing" teams of jeets writing unit tests and making screenshots for bug tickets for 25 years

>>109573834
QA is a dead profession. But in any case, Adobe pays so little that after 25 years there, he hasn't saved enough money or savings for retirement?

>he's around 50 years old
>Gen X
>Life takes a shit on him
>again
I'm surprised he waited more than a year to drive the bus
I would have started driving the bus on week 1
Any income is better than no income
There's no job too shit for me, I've done everything

>>109573834
i quit my non tech job and got a job driving a gas delivery truck. the hours are worse but i don't give a shit about it and never think about it outside of work. it's not bad.

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eh he sounds happy enough

good for him finding work is tough

hopefully he don't suicide

I'll say it forever, the tech industry has the most evil HR on the planet

It'd be less evil to work for satan himself or even mossad

>>109574249
what have you done

>>109573834
Sorry, Trump loves H1-B. It makes him and his fellow Epstein Island goers a lot of money and you? You don't matter.

>>109574378
>it's fun
>the kids are good
>hasn't even started yet
bro is in for a rough awakening
gen alpha kids are going to destroy him

His career no longer exists. He did QA, they don't care about quality or QA of any kind any more. They just throw shit out or get AI to do it. His job stopped existing.

I see on his linkedin a few months ago he tried to start a "human-led" Quality Assurance consultancy. You can see that went nowhere.

Drive the bus man it's better.

>>109574378
>I love this work so much! Thank you everyone for firing me and not hiring me so that I could do this, my absolute dream job, which is so much fun - the children have been awesome, this is my dream job, really!
- Written 1 week before he even had his first day at his new job

Truly a master of self delusion. Being fired and ghosted seems to have really hurt him. I hope he finds the happiness he desperately wants this new job to bring him somehow, against all odds.

surely after 25 years working in a world renowned bigtech-adjacent SV shop, hes got atleast a few mil in the brokerage?

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>>109573834
I had luddites attack me when I said AI would replace engineers. Guess I was right.

>>109574729
back on your yacht mark there's some drowning kids to ignore

>>109574747
lol >>109569826

>>109574749
At least he's not driving a bus, lol.

>>109573834
people might call it ageism but do you want a 50 year old know-it-all in the office?

>>109573864
>>109573834
>25 yoe
>senior engineer
>senior QUALITY engineer
this guy must be genuinely brainead. at 25 yoe you should either be director level or retired. at the very least you should be out of the QA ghetto

>>109574501
he deserves it
>>109574702
probably got at least one divorce under the belt. guys like that usually do.

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>>109573834
Of course it's not normal. We poured trillions into a single sector in a way that would make developing and planned economies blush, beating down conscientious investors with the might of blind passives and cynical VC money. Reason is out the window. Stupid things will continue to happen because money is a form of mind control and literal comic book villains have successfully put us in thrall to their plans to never lose ever.

>>109573984
>"Graphic design isn't a real job" Guy for the "Being able to carry a single line of logic through his comment" Vhallenge.
I can't say I'm surprised.

>>109574397
I'd say my worst job was working on a corn research farm for $7/hr
Me standing in knee high corn, the tallest thing in an open field, in an electric storm, flooded up to my ankles, with a rainbow slake of pesticides swirling around my feet, and I'm just there wishing God would just end it all and strike me with lightning.

>>109573834
Fuck him, adobe software is complete dogshit, worthless cocksucker.

>>109573834
He should have enough money from his pay, 401k, & stock to retire. He could have retired years ago if he just invested in an S&P 500 fund or even put all his savings into high-yield CDs.

>>109575240
I don't know if he's in charge of these decisions, but I absolutely hate how Adobe programs like Photoshop never release memory when they don't need them, e.g. closing a PSD. They either play dumb or say it's by design. Such scumbags.

https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/why-does-ps-not-release-memory-what-s-going-on-how-to-solve-it-1619431
https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/photoshop-hogging-memory-for-decades-1174370
https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/photoshop-sat-hogging-memory-while-doing-nothing-1180801
https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/photoshop-hogging-ram-even-with-no-files-open-1176192
https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/how-do-i-stop-adobe-software-from-using-so-much-memory-1553653
https://community.adobe.com/questions-712/photoshop-hogging-ram-even-with-no-files-open-1176192

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>>109573834
Based pedophile, probably drowning in cunny

>>109574018
what suprises me is that all he can do is work for other people. he doesn't have contacts or concepts and shit he can get on with for himself.

>>109575352
Also before anyone goes "Errrrm, allocating memory is slow", Clip Studio Paint has a button that lets you clean up unused memory. At least give that as a manual option.

>>109574747
you don't actually know what "luddite" means do you?

>>109575384
The answer to your question is that Adobe uses a non-compacting garbage collector in all their software.

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>>109573864
>fire all the quality assurance tards because they're not real and don't do real work
>quality of software goes down
How could this have happened to the software industry?

>>109575679
i-it is like one of them winny pooh 9gag meme images

>"persistent memory leak" :/
>"non-compacting garbage collector" ;)

>>109574747
QA is not an engineer, copie

>>109573834
Most likely did the same easy work over and over again and wasn't keeping up with new technological developments throughout those 15 years. He's the software engineering equivalent of the guy holding up the SLOW sign at a construction site.

>>109575703
pajeet running a script to auto-click 3 buttons by their text label or drawing occasional rectangles around some padding not exactly matching figma slides is not going to salvage the broader mess

adobe had already given up by the point ~10 year ago when you opened an photoshop/illustrator sidebar for it to launch 90MB nodejs.exe to draw some textboxes and buttons for exporting svg files

>>109575041
These days you can get divorced and be fairly okay if your ex was making around the same amount of money.

The economy is so fucked up that the average couple simply want to incur as little financial damage as possible and just split things right down the middle. Ask me how I know.

>>109574747
if there won't be more low and mid level engineers, where will high level engineers come from in 10 years? will they be replaced with AI too? this would only further the wealth gap, which is bad news not only for the people, but also for the economy. the more concentrated wealth is the worse is for the stability of the system, ig accelerationists are loving this

>>109573834
One must think him happy now

>>109575380
There aren't many developers who are truly "full stack." And I don't mean people who do node.js front and backend. There aren't many people who can admin the linux boxes, the database, the CI, write the software, orchestrate the deployment, and sell a product. Most people are like him, they sit in their little silo. He knows one part of the software development process, QA. That's all he did for 15 years. Clock in, do QA, clock out, collect a paycheck. And that's exactly how your boss wants it to be. You are a little cog, easy to let go or replace. Your boss does not want the one guy who set up, builds, and runs the entire stack. Because that guy has too much power, more than the boss. If they get a guy like that, they gradually break him down. Taking away bits and pieces of his work, until he is atomized into a little box too.

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>>109574249
He wanted to get back into the tech world. Taking a job in another industry can be a trap as the time and energy it takes from you leaves you with less of it for pursuing a path back into your old career. And once you get a bump or two up the ladder in the new field, it becomes more difficult to switch back, both due to skill degradation and because the hiring pipeline is designed to filter you out.
He held out a year but the tech industry sees any resume gap over six months as poison. He probably burnt through his savings, which is why he finally gave up instead of continuing to bang on the door being guarded by HR and the recruiter clan.

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>>109573834
"Driving a school bus" not is a amazing job, schools hire everybody. You see why this character exist in The Simpsons

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>>109576219
He probably should have contacted a lawyer instead. Adobe isn't reducing head count, they just got rid of him because he was 40-something. That's illegal. My guess is he did not have any saving you mention. He took the severance package which means you agree not to sue them and train your replacement. And he thought, it will be fine, I'll just get another job and I get a whole year severance too, yay! Now he's driving a bus.

>>109575352
Its literally because they don’t need to fix it. After effects has something like 4 developers.
They locked in a software monopoly that everyone has to use. Nothing will change until its broken.

>>109573864
This. It used to be that you dogfooded your shit as a proper tech company and bug reports would lead to bugs being found before you shipped your gold master. Then they replaced that with writing tests and other balderdash, which is itself taking away tons of time and energy from the actual task of iterating the development cycle. Sure it catches some bugs, but is it a lot?

>>109576145
That's a "fuck you got mine" type of problem. For the corporate life is good, the actually important open positions get snatched up fast by applicants with good resumes and all the menial low level bullshit is done by AI or jeets for pennies on the dollar, why should they waste enormous amounts of money and time tard wrangling juniors when someone else can do the grunt work for them and they can just directly skim off the top?
>but everyone else's also thinking the same so isn't this going to-
Does it show up on the next quarter or the three year plan? No? Not our problem.

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>>109575231
>corn research farm

>>109576203
He chose to remain mediocre.

>>109573834
>25 years at a major tech firm
>doesnt have enough contacts to monkey branch into the next position
wut

>>109573834
ageism occurs in tech. being skilled in unpopular tech or no longer being hands on is one way to survive. nothing wrong with leaving to do something else, especially in the current market. staying at the same employer for years on end is poorly thought of.

>>109573834
Experienced white men cost too much and they're not a part of the jeet tribe so it's a double whammy.

>>109573883
>>109573984
That's not it. It's one of those things that companies have to keep in-house to some degree. Every big company has in-house graphic designers and UI experts (there is cross-pollenation there) and these are fully fledged departments so they are funded and expected to exist and operate, that means you have this mass of artsy fartsy people constantly wanting to revive some trend or make their mark and niggling with everything everywhere for no good reason. Drop shadows, flatshit, skeu, Alegria, shiny bubble-candy, a hundred things more have all flashed before our weary eyes. It's because they can't fire a whole department and the execs and marketing people need them. So they infest the company.

It was tolerable when it was a handful of dog fooders. But now it's gotta be whole sweatshops full of artfags.

> job for major software company starting in 2000
>works for 25 years
How is he not a multi millionaire by now? Even if he earned on average 90k/year his entire 25 year career, DCA that entire time achieve that target.

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>>109576246
It's decent money for what it is because few want to do it and due to past scandals, there's a deep background check that filters out lots of people from the bottom of the labor pool. Many school districts stagger start times of schools so the same driver can do two or three routes in the morning and then again in the afternoon.
But you do have to deal with children, teens, and parents. Now that everything is stuffed with cameras, it's a bit better. Even with that, you still have to deal with those who want to fuck with you for various reasons. You'll be vindicated in the end but it's still annoying to deal with.

He sounds pretty useless probably why he got fired

>>109573834
are you scared to be in that kind of situation? lol I wish I could work on something totally different sometimes.

>>109576203
>Your boss does not want the one guy who set up, builds, and runs the entire stack. Because that guy has too much power, more than the boss
Your dumb ass comment proves you have no experience in the work force. You have no idea how large enterprises work if you think his boss is the reason things are silo'd. That is literally how entire orgs like that work.

>>109573834
will he drive the bang bus?

>>109573834
have you ever used adobe products? not only is this mans firing justified, they should probably stone him to death.

>>109575828
your wife was reasonable. most women are demons that will send you under the bridge

>>109576203
your manager doesn't care what you do man, just get your things done in time and don't harass your coworker. It's same for any kind of jobs, why would they care whether you can install gentoo or build a PC lol.

>>109576636
It's probably about the large pay cut. The median pay for a school bus driver is $37k. IT jobs don't pay as much as FAGMAN and universities would have you believe but it's still at least 2.5X what a bus driver makes. For his level of experience, it was probably about 4X.

>>109576834
Just checked for my upper middle class school district. The job pays $26/hour and you drive three hours in the morning, have a mid-day break, and then another three hours in the afternoon. There are 180 school days, so you get paid $28,080/year. The mid-day break isn't large enough to do a second job but you do have summers off, so you could pick up some seasonal work.

>>109576834
>>109576850
Well schools do need bus drivers, AI can’t replace them due to children misbehaving and other unforeseen consequences.

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>>109573834
why didn't he have enough to just retire?
25 years is like a 10x on sp500

he should be a millionaire by now

>25 years
>no connections
>not enough savings to do your own thing with that experience
Retard alert

>>109573834
>fired just like that
Why is this allowed in the land of the free? In my Euro country you can't simply fire someone because of automation you must either repurpose the guy or pay him enormous compensations

>>109577388
And that's why Europe continues to stagnate.

I don't care if it's normal or not. I'm not playing HRs games and I'm glad others are refusing to as well.

The people posting about retiring are so demoralizing. As if having money is going to magically give you value. Well I guess I got my bag, time to sit in this chair and die early I guess.

>>109576850
Seems comfy as fuck if you have *some* savings but are not full FIRE. If they give you decent family health insurance, I may look into this myself after I get fired/laid off.

>>109573834
>Senior Software Quality Engineer

Sounds like some made up bullshit.

>>109577388
>In my Euro country
So, right now you have protections in place that are working - basically communism lite that prevents the indians from taking over.

It won't last long. Effectively zero whites will be in euro stem in 5 years. the indians just need to get into certain positions of power to kick you down.

>india<

>>109577476

>>109573834
Working 25 years at adobe as a senior dev should be enough time for you to have saved up enough money and retire no? Thats a 100k+ job per year

>>109573834
How the fuck are you not retired after working 15 years in tech? Let alone 25 years like this guy. How retarded can you be

>>109573834
you already posted this on /pol/ faggot

>>109573834
>>109575703
Don't look at who's the ceo of adobe in the past 2 decades. Surely it would be racist of you to put 2 and 2 together and figure out why quality has been declining.

>>109573983
i'm sorry zoomie but this isn't how things work anymore.

>>109573834
ageism sucks, but i also can see why they wouldn't take someone who was doing the same thing for 25 years. you're supposed to go into management by this time or have your own company.

>>109577555
Checked.

It's not agism, it's just indians, fool. indians are by definition a different race totally separate from the white races.

We are incompatible, simple as. Wherever the aliens - non-whites - go there we are nothing there! we REQUIRE that we may exist our own place exclusionary of THEM!!!

Erika! Erika!

>>109577509
If you look at his linkedin profile, he's got no dev related skills.

>>109577602
Post a screenshot?

>>109573834
>25 years
>remote
Well at least he saved up enough money to retire.

Every company should be forced to fire at least 5% of their workforce every year.
Stops situations like this where someone overestimates their own value.

>>109577602
Even if thats the case adove is one of those companies that even a lower role pays enough money for you to retire max 15 years. If by then you dont have enough to retire its entirely your fault ngl

>>109577609
Doxing is against the rules.

>>109573834
Blessed move. Actually helping people out now.

He needs to be interrogated in a police station. How can anyone with access to US capital markets for 25 years while earning tech salary not be financially self-sufficient?

>>109577544
Except it was over the past 25 years

>>109577635
His name is in the OP pic.

>>109577651
yes, it hasn't worked since even before then. you live in 2026 currently.

>Implying I wouldn't save up my money then fuck off to an easier/less stressful job afterward

Let me guess, he wasted all his money stupidly?

>>109573864
> modern software
> bugs and weekly updates
> flat design with rounded corners

It's like when they said employees should do the "basic" job of administrators, secretaries etc.
It only created a inefficient mess with heavy maintenance cost and of course outsourcing the parts that actually require technical knowledge.

>>109577544
The S&P 500 has like 5.5x'd itself since the 2008 crash. Literally all you had to do as a big tech guy was put a portion of your money into that and you'd be set for life.

>>109577618
But there are already companies that do annual performances reviews and fire out the bottom rung, it's just not good practice because it fosters an extremely paranoid workforce who don't work together but rather try to screw each other over.

>>109577818
I don't understand how these things work if everyone just pools their money into the same pit.

>>109577519
Are you too retarded to understand that 08/16/26(Sun)20:49:54 is after 08/16/26(Sun)14:46:05?

>>109573834
>25 years
Retire bro.

>>109577818
this isn't how real life works.

>>109573834
Yeah I'm on the same path. This being said QA is just being a test monkey.

I've only had one actual job interview in months and it was for something so highly paid and low level that I'm pretty sure all my former colleagues would have bombed the interview as well. I'm thinking of reconverting into Qt/QML desu.

>>109577822
It also leads to managers intentionally hiring poor quality workers they can use to protect their good workers from being laid off.

>>109577649
Consumerist ethos dictates you must spend every single penny you've earned to live life to the "fullest".

>>109577794
>pay big brain code genius SWE 250k-550k in total compensation including RSUs
>force him to spend 3/4 of his day NOT to leverage his expertise but instead be a glorified PM
What kind of corporate management strategy is this called?

>>109574484
Which is ironic because if you want AI slop to come out good you need to do extra testing.

He probably had one of this high-sounding titles but he was just checking if buttons in Photoshop work on each release and making a list that said it works

>>109577856
What kind of management receives salary bonus for losses?
You only look at a partial picture, management agrees the money is better in their own pocket

>>109573883
Common User Access GUIs will come back in style, just wait. Everyone misses the file menu.

>>109573883
From what I hear, designing a graphical program is easy but implementing it is not because popular cross platform GUI toolkits are ass or something. Or if there are good ones people don't know about / use them.

>>109577861
They don't care if it's good that's the issue

>>109573834
honestly good for him, hope his new job being a bus driver brings him more happiness and less stress than a senior position at fucking Adobe of all companies

>>109573834
I personally know a guy who used to work in gamedev (3d artist) and now drives a bus. and he can consider himself lucky. some of his laid-off buddies ended up worse.

>>109577844
it does if you're not retarded with your money. I know plenty of tech boomers who retired at ~50.

>>109573834
When a man reaches a certain age, cunny consumes him

>>109573834
Looks too white for IT.

>>109575029
Why tho? QA automation is pretty chill as it demands far less CS knowledge and pays only a bit below programmers

>>109573834
the lesson is surely don't spend 25 years at the same company, you don't get rewarded for loyalty and will have a wider, more varied skillset which will make you more employable

>>109578943
He's over 35 and has a year long gap on his resume. He's never ever getting another tech job. Hiring managers will never even see his resume and at most places, not even HR or a recruiter will see it. Their filters will nuke him in under a second from when he hits the submit button.

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>>109573864
I'm a dev myself, but some of the best QA people I've worked with over the years had a better understanding of the product than anyone else in the company and they were probably the people I trusted and relied on the most. some of them actually took charge of the product better than product owners, suggesting fixes, improvements, and new features and even talking to customers and investigating the competition
some of them were almost literally retarded on a level that a junior dev can never be, though

>>109573834
Meme role, of course he wont find a job. Should have written software instead of just tests.

>>109573834
Yes, this is the new normal. Age and experience discrimination is real. The main reason is fear of disrupting the power balances of existing cliques. They also fear you more likely to push back on asinine stuff and are willing to high-ball and haggle a lot during job offer process.

Lazy OP reposting r*ddit shit.
>>109573834
>Is this normal to you?
lol Yes. As a xoomer I've been in same situation, twice, and punted second time around. I've read whole thread. Let me clear up / confirm some things.
> Shouldn't he be retired by now
You should plan to be economically free of employers ASAP, but certainly by the time you are in your mid-50s. Note I didn't say "not working" just not reliant on W2 wage work to pay any outstanding obligations. My boomer dad is still technically "working" but he's doing own lucrative things and enjoys it. But he was effectively "retired" in his 40s.
> Shouldn't be higher level that QA grunt by 50+?
Yes. Ideally he should be director, minimum, at this point in career. He got stuck in a dead end and basically never got out.
> Shouldn't he take any job immediately
lol no. His job was to hide his unemployment until he had another job. I've watch execs do amazing stretches of truth to look "employed" b/c any gap is resume poison. Also poison: Any job that's not on upward trajectory. Once "bus driver" is on your resume, HR just sees a bus driver, doesn't matter you had 25 years in tech.
> Shouldn't he have better contacts than this to get new job
Hell yes, and if *you* don't, you need to start right now. Problem is, a lot of guys get into mindset that current job is forever and don't bother to network. Don't be those guys: have your own contacts at suppliers and competitors and always field legit recruitment calls.
>>109575231
Buddy I feel your pain. Ag work is the worst. All these tech bros talking about their subsistence farms. You and I know the truth: Farming Sucks.
> t. laid off twice on 12+ month gaps. Hid first one, second time moved into consulting and running ecommerce and just do those, now.

>>109579232
> Chehalis WA
LOL. Sold place in/near Redmond for a fortune, moved to middle of nowhere WA to farm geese, presumably nicely retired.
I hope he's happy...

>Adobe
>as Senior Software Quality Engineer
Oh come on now, the jokes write themselves.

I have a deep seated fear about this stuff.
I work for the government making a modest amount for what the industry usually gives.
I truly hope that the whole "layoff" protection and "impossible to get fired" things are true for government work.
My ambition has been destroyed by my turbulent life growing up. These kind of doomer news do get me even though they don't represent the true normal.

I just want to be safe.

>>109576549
Correct. The tard you replied to is strawmanning or doesn't understand.

>>109573864
Dogshit brains like you are the reason why shits is getting worse.

>>109573983
>Just get a 10x EVERY SINGLE TIME.

>>109575231
fuck man, that is truly hell

>>109576203
>And I don't mean people who do node.js front and backend
yeah because you would be employed if you knew how to do that

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>>109579232
pretty based
reminds me of this dude
>got fired from IT in 2007 after 20 years
>liked to go boating
>talked with some fish farmers
>idea.jpg
>buys into an existing small farm
>uses his tech know-how
>counting fish with computer vision instead manually
>using sensors to measure water oxygen and automating aeration (while others farm's fish just die)
>now runs one of the biggest local fish farms

>>109580065
Blue collar work and mixing with tech is a dangerous combo.

>>109573864
Software has become shittier and shittier as QA roles have been cut or baked into dev roles. Jeets and aisloppers have made it worse.
It's gone so bad Microsoft felt forced to create a Chief of Quality role half a year ago

>>109580125
I don't think that one guy can fix the cow poop that has been and will continue to be stuffed in Windows by the jeet hordes of poopiloters, too uphill of a battle.

>>109580065
This guy understood how to get into a market and clean up by working smarter not harder.
>>109580123
You have no idea.
Ever look at company and wondered how they make money while still being completely retarded, and think, if you did things the right way, how well would you do?
I did same w/ operations stuff. US based manufacturing. I do quite well. All the smart executives I work with say "there's no money to be made in US based manufacturing." This means two things:
> You can't do US manufacturing and be an idiot about it, you'll go bankrupt. They are right about that
> I don't compete against anyone smart, they are busy working at retarded companies
Win win.

>>109580123
>>109580319
there used to be a guy posting on hn years ago. I think he stopped somewhere around 2011. Most people were hyped around web frameworks and social startups. And then there was this guy, a bit older, not affected by the hype. He had specialized in solving problems for industrial clients. I remember he build some tool for logistics company to save real money by optimizing routes or an inventory management system for some factory
I always liked reading his stories. Solving real-world problems and not building the millionth social app

>>109573834
>opens up Claude Code
>do [X]
Why do I need Mr Strawn again?

>>109574378
Guy looks 70, he's better suited to driving a huge bus full of unruly children every day than typing some abstract bullshit into a text editor.

>>109574018
maybe he just wants to work. a lot of people for some reason cant handle not working
>>109578930
>why
Because this

>>109574802
Depends on the job function, but very often that is a yes. In particular in leadership and management positions.

>>109575029
>this is what zoomers think the job market is like
lmao

>>109581385
They also think when you hit 30 your life is basically over.

>>109577350
Even FAGMAN didn't pay 100k 25 years ago.

>>109581120
>Solving real-world problems and not building the millionth social app

Most software is B2B

>>109577509
Shit happens in life. You get medical bills, kids, divorces, car payments, house repairs, etc. The worst financial events also usually happen when the market is down, so you can't take your money out or you get a double whammy, but you're forced to do this because you don't want to be homeless. This greatly reduces the real return you get. Also, it is totally unreasonable to blame a non-finance bro for blinking during the 2008 crash and getting out at the bottom, and other such events.

>>109577991
Another one of those overpaid bullshit jobs.

>>109581120
The problem is this isn't how any of that has worked since after the 2000 recovery. It's not a question of will, you can't find someone to believe they need to solve the problem. You can find plenty of suckers who want a "digital transformation" or now an "AI transformation", though. Boomers had it easy. They were allowed to do useful things and get paid for it. They were allowed to show real numbers showing real margins improvement or real retention count or real revenue growth using their tools and this was an argument people would buy into. The economy doesn't at all work like this now, it's all based on speculation instead.

>>109575231
That sounds brutal dude. I thought being a fast-food worker was bad. Not gonna lie though, it’s really interesting how you ended up in that situation, especially since it's a type of job so far from /g/. Could you tell more about it?

>>109581523
Working at fast food doesn't seem so bad. I don't understand why Americans hate it.
https://youtu.be/Mm4VxyMutaw

>>109577844
It is, though. As long as you save the biggest portion of your salary and plan. Of course, you can also choose to be one more brick on the wall and live by spending 95% of your salary every month.

>>109573864
QAtards dont write shit either, its all set up on a neat pipeline by devops, they just click run and watch it go then take screenshots to pester me and send a whole project back because some junior's code was 0.00001ms off some retarded metric or muh code smells even if its squeaky clean and safe

>>109581559
You really think that's all you do in fast food work?

>>109581988
What the fuck else do they do other than preparing food?

>>109573983
>I have never worked a day in my life but the internet influencer man told me this was how things worked: the post

>>109582122
Dealing with customers, cleaning toilets, mopping floors, etc.

>>109581559
Do zoomers really look at social media videos and think that's what everyday life is?

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>>109581448

It's about his pride.
You can tell he always looked than on others working for less wage and he's struggling to comprehend that he wasn't any better than his "lessers".

>>109574747
>zuckerberg
Dude lost billions on his ugly ass second life clone

>>109575231
Fuck, reminds me of a story a friend told me about how some rural school kids got sprayed with glyphosate during recess cause the school is next to some greedy retard's corn field.
Also knew a girl who worked at a huge rice production doing quality control on the grains and would tell me how the laborers had to walk amongst the pesticides in the paddy water, she never ate rice again after that.

>>109576367
This mentality is what is leading to a collapse. Not just AI, but society as a whole. People are doing whatever it takes to "get theirs " when in reality it's only going to buy them a few months to a year of safety.

I honestly was always baffled by people who got into QA. I can't imagine anything would lead to it other than failing to get into a proper SWE path.

>>109576203
>There aren't many people who can admin the linux boxes, the database, the CI, write the software, orchestrate the deployment, and sell a product

If you join a startup you can definitely do that and run into people who do that. At big companies being completely cross functional like this is completely incongruous with their overall team structures. It's just not how development works at places like these.

>>109575771
>software engineering equivalent of the guy holding up the SLOW sign at a construction site.
Fun fact, no one actually wants to hold up the SLOW sign at a construction site cause you're always in danger of some drunk retard or some stupid whore running you over.

>>109582541
100%. But telling that to retards like him is a waste of time. That's why they just kill people like him once things get bad enough.

>>109582618
Being 2 feet away won't make you safer.

>>109582702
Society won't collapse because of some people not getting cushy office jobs with 6-figure salaries right out of college.

>>109582743
>Completely misunderstanding the point
Yet again, the boomer mentality never fails to amuse me.

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>>109573834

Let me show you the list of new hires at Intuit, an "American" company. The Indian Hindu rape rat infestation of human civilization is going to prove to be an extinction even for our species unless we start genociding them real soon.

>>109577818
>he thinks most people don't have weak hands and pussy out at the smallest bear market

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>>109573834
>>109582764

everything is very simple really,

the jewish board of directors wants jobs taken away from the cattle, indians are low IQ enough to be good docile goys. A white man who would have just been finished with his computer science degree after they were told to learn to code during covid, now crushingly have to go back to whatever the fuck manual labor they used to do because of AI.

So while christian goyim are chasing their tails like stabbed rats, years are ticking by, you are not getting married, you are not having children, you are seeking your next master because you cannot even conceive that you could be an employer yourself (that is just not a very christian way of thinking)


Answer is very simple, convert to Judaism. Marry a jewish woman, send kids to yeshivot, they will give you 10 grandchildren, at least you will go out like a winner.

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>>109582836

You forgot the part where Indian Hindus have only one skill: destroying any form of civilization they infest and replacing it with the rape, filth, and unimaginable savagery seen in India. When they destroy these tech companies, and the west with it, Israel will be flushed too. Hiring Indian invaders has always proven to be the destruction of every company that doesn't wake up in time.

>>109573983
>8 digit net worth
more like low 7, retard

>>109575380
>he doesn't have contacts or concepts and shit he can get on with for himself
what, pray tell, do you think he would do? call up some programmer he met at work and go "hey, let's start up a company. you do all the dev work and i'll do the testing"? that's not how startups work. the qa dept is always the last thing that gets added to a team.

>>109575664
i think you don't know what it means in today's ai world: a luddite is someone who refuses to jump on the ai bandwagon.

>>109577509
he wasn't making $100K/yr in 2001

>>109582757
What's your point then? Nobody's a mind reader here.

>>109577818
lol at you looking in the rearview mirror. if he had been in the s&p500 *before* the 2008 crash, it would have taken 5 years for him to climb back out of that hole.

>>109578919
no shit, sherlock. that's called the numbers game. i know plenty who retired and i also know plenty who did not. every industry is like this.

>>109582528
She better not eat anything except the food she hunts or gathers from the wild because everywhere is like that.

>>109578045
>What kind of management receives salary bonus for losses?
every ceo that has ever existed.