>>109577912
Between dozens of chromium forks and dozens of firefox forks, I'll gladly choose the latter every time.

Really comfy on Windows
I use Brave Origin and Firefox on Linux tho

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deceptive marketing

it just works ( Fedora 44 KDE )

>>109578720
no way some nobodies would be able to fulfill fedora's strict packaging rules. fedora rules don't allow vendoring.

>>109577912
What the fuck I could have just downloaded it? Why the fuck was I carrying that huge steel pressure bottle over then the whole time???

>>109578814
It's a web browser not actual helium retard

>>109577912
Isn’t this a totally redundant browser when chromium is slowly removing all the hooks for MV2 extensions. This is maintained by two guys, they won’t be able to self-host the extension

>>109578852
How the fuck is a web browser gonna help me fill all these balloons
Big techs gonna get me fired on my first day of being a clown i fucking hate the future

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>>109579366
>they won’t be able to self-host the extension
it's already self-hosted

>>109577912
>chrominum
I'll keep using firefox and its forks

>>109578656
>apple UI in screenshots
>to the trash it goes

>>109580115
what he probably meant is that once google remove the code from chrome, those 2 people wont be able to maintain it properly in their fork
kinda like when firefox nuked all their xuul addons a few years ago

>>109580556
helium dev:
https://x.com/uwukko/status/2043705404966740381
>some chromium components are still mv2, i doubt they'll remove it from the codebase in the foreseeable future. if that happens, we'll implement a native ad blocker or revert the removal of mv2 support.

>>109579381
i love you anon i hope you had a great balloon-filling day

>>109580718
You can’t escape the rust based adblocker, it’s inevitable

I think the only good feature I like about this browser is the fact that the menu bar is a bit thinner, but I got used to the new slop thickness from using ungoogled and brave

>>109580755
unlikely. helium devs hate brave.
remember helium devs even forked ublock origin to undo brave's corruptions there: brave had hired the easylist maintainer and made it so that self-ads are allowed. helium's ublock origin has default filters that counter that.

just stall firefx jus like do it ugh

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>>109580865
brave tried to copy helium's compact mode. doesn't really work with all the bloat brave added.

>>109577912
idk I like it

>>109580718
>we'll implement a native ad blocker
>or revert the removal of mv2 support
sounds like he's really underestimating how hard either option would be

Wukko, the main developer I believe (or at least the originator of the project) is kindof annoying but god damn is Helium good. Mad props to him and the team.

>>109581041
>but god damn is Helium good. Mad props to him and the team.
can anyone confirm

>>109580977
>sounds like he's really underestimating how hard either option would be
underestimate how?

remember
https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/develop/migrate/blocking-web-requests
>You don't need to make these changes if your extension is installed by policy. For policy installed extensions, the webRequestBlocking permission is still available in Manifest V3.
so google themselves guarantees that webRequestBlocking, the corner stone of ublock origin, will still be available for enterprise policy.

firefox also has webRequestBlocking in mv3 and that's why firefox wanted that all mv2 extensions migrate to mv3 at first, too. only later when retards didn't understand this nuance, did firefox drop this plan.
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/05/18/manifest-v3-in-firefox-recap-next-steps/

>>109582623
Can you explain this further to a retard like me? I understood 30% of what you presented.

>>109582673
google is retiring the public api for mv2. but there are caveouts for enterprise policies which make it so that the internal apis for mv2 will still be needed.
also: there are chromium components and chromium tests that rely on that internal api, too.

>>109578814
big science trying to tell us we're running out of helium, why dont they just download more

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>>109582623
>firefox also has webRequestBlocking in mv3 and that's why firefox wanted that all mv2 extensions migrate to mv3 at first, too. only later when retards didn't understand this nuance, did firefox drop this plan.
also mv3's ublock origin lite almost has parity with mv2's ublock origin now.
https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ)#filtering-capabilities-which-cant-be-ported-to-mv3
mv2 vs mv3 discussions are more ideological than technical now.

>>109577912
Brave Origin is miles better

>>109580718
>evert the removal of mv2 support
Good luck maintaining it.

>>109584983
said no one intelligent, ever

>>109585003
It performs better in privacy tests, Brave fakes screen resolution, ram, etc. Helium can't do that.
Helium is maintained by one guy. Brave has a team of 300+ people.
I'm not using another hobby browser like Thorium, whose furry maintainer completely abandoned the project.

>>109585020
>Brave has a team of 300 Israelis
Ftfy

>>109585020
hmmm...Helium is built on ungoogled-chromium and natively supports noise/spoofs of certain web APIs to disrupt fingerprinting.

>>109585020
niggah Helium is actively maintained as a valid modern alternative browser to brave for ppl who want Brave's privacy features without the built-in crypto wallet, AI assistants, and ad network telemetry garbage. Try again or just kys

>>109585178
>Helium is actively maintained
For now. The dev is still young, the moment he finds a job, he will abandon the project.

>>109585228
It's actively maintained. End of story

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>>109585020
brave actually has worse privacy than helium. brave benchmaxxing does not change that.
https://x.com/uwukko/status/2059964731285180625

>>109585234
until it isn't

>>109585420
why am I not surprised

>>109585420
>our snake oil is better than their snake oil

>>109585429
>don't use X browser because one day, someday it'll become obsolete
Kys retard

>>109577912
>helium
>dev is russian GAY and applefag
>annoying twitter faggot, his natural habitat is that corner of techno-consumerist twitter, disguised as a technology-focused one, along with other annoying faggots like primeagen, theo etc
>hates firefox
>creates yet another chromium fork (actually ungoogled chromium fork lol) with ublock origin preinstalled
Usecase?

>>109585468
>dev is a network engineer with a refined taste for technology
Okay?
>annoying twitter faggot
Valid, he constantly tries to start drama
>hates Firefox
Hello? Based department?
>creates yet another chromium fork
Valid as well. Just install the paid Brave Origin (for free)
https://github.com/ObjectAscended/brave-origin-unlocker

>go onto helium's website
>the scrollbar is hidden
>close the website immediately

>>109577912
>YACF
Yet another chromium fork, we don't need that. We already have a fuck ton of forks on both Gecko and Chromium. Just wait for fucking Servo and Ladybird.

>>109585468
>usecase
Private and secure browsing. you retarded faggots are always trying to come up with and invent the dumbest disqualifiers to mask your uselessness and envy

>>109585431
in essence, yes

>>109577912
go fuck yourself

>>109587230
I'm aroused, we fuck each other

>>109586749
>Private
who said so? is there any proof that it's truly private? is there any proof it doesn't make any connections on startup? the only fucking thing that makes this browser at least SEEM to be private is the fact it's based on ungoogled chromium and helium's website that just says so lol
>secure
the most secure browser is the one that patches vulnerabilities faster than the rest. and this is just chrome. all the other browsers' security could be estimated as pretty much similar to each other

>>109587230
babe, time to bond together, babe.

>>109587257
yeah, it's called wireshark

>>109587326
dude i don't care enough to install your shitfagware on my machine and then inspect it

>>109577912
no you discuss

>>109577912
Why is every logo a butthole?

>>109577912
just a meme ungoogled chromium fork made by 2 russian guys
just use ungoogled chromium

>>109587929
It's an asterisk.
Why are asterisks like Rorschach tests for faggots?

>>109585468
Everyone kinda hates Firefox, Mozilla actively does not want anyone donating money to actually help with the browser itself and it's held hostage by Google. It's just a necessary existence to stop some of Google's extremely retarded web standards. It'll take some years but Ladybird is currently everyone's favorite child

It is kinda funny though that this is literally just two guys seething about both Firefox and Brave