How do you avoid giving YouTube free views after this?
>>109581196Youtube gets the same amount of views, youtubers get more views, however the view retention will not increase. Since they're paid by watch time this means only massive clickbaiters will have any benefit.
>>109581196>Ignoring watchtimeGreat, they're now openly fucking their ad customers. Internet advertising has been a giant potemkin village for a while now, let's see when it collapses.
>>109581196So that means that YouTube creators will also be paid more. Right? Right...?
>>109581332they doubled the requirements
>>109581196So ... does /g/ have their bots ready?Tor has 4000 nodes and you can change the exit node IP by sending it the HUP signal ...And you can use playwright to emulate a real browser and generate views.I am just saying guys ... 2000 free views (technically 4000 are possible but if you choose randomly it will take you forever to try all of the exit IPs)
>>109581332No, you don't get paid per view, you get paid per watchtime>>109581345This is for being eligible to get paid, not the amount you get paid>>1095813692000 free views every so often since you could watch the same video twice
>>109581196A board member said "We need to get our view counts up for next quarter." and some clever executive said "I've got an idea!"
>>109581428>since you could watch the same video twicehow does that work?
>>109581196Wasn't it like this 15 or so years ago?
>>109581196I guess you can't, but this will only hurt youtube and by extension youtubers in the long run, so whatever.
>>109581476>how does that work?I don't know the specific but think about it. Imagine you decided to watch an old youtube video you previously watched. Wouldn't it be extremely unfair for that second watching (potentially years later) to not be considered worthy of increasing the view (not viewer) count? What about music? What if you listen to a new track just an hour after the last time you listened to it? What if you are rewatching something to make sure you got all points from some lecture? Youtube needs to have a cooldown in place but it hasn't told us what that cooldown is and it's likely dependent on a few other factors like the last few things you watched, your usual behavior, general interest in the video/topic that might have rekindled and so on.
>>109581196The reason they originally added minimum watch requirements was to stop scam videos and shitty clickbait + misleading titles from getting ungodly amounts of views.But oh wait! They removed dislikes so you can't tell scam videos are scam videos anymore as well!And you can remove comments on your scam videos too so even that's out the window for the suckers that watch it!Youtube might become completely unusable within the next year if they keep this shit up. It's already 90% there if you don't already have a curated feed.
>the Google insider that's slowly suiciding YouTube over many yearsmaybe its for the best
>>109581369You may as well just skip the middle man and use inspect element to change the view count if you want to convince yourself that your videos are popular.
>>109581196You turn on your ad blocker, open a video from a channel you hate and set the page to reload every 1 second. That way you will cost that channel money.
>>109581369wait, Tor has only 4000 nodes?doesn't that make I2P kinda of better in terms of anonymizing, since every user is pretty much a node?I really doubt that Tor has only 4000 nodes, specially cuz muh daddy US gov't made ithaven't used it since v2 died, the best time for dank net exploration
will clickbait become worse? is that still possible?
>>109581533I really feel like the intent behind this design is to give you such a slopped out homepage without the personalization that you feel forced to turn it on so you can avoid the sloppage. It had the complete opposite outcome on me to an extent I feel I deserve millions in financial compensation. But leaving my personal litigator issues with it out of the way, you can and should just implement the personalization yourself, on device, if you want it. Grab some scientific papers on things like PageMatch, for Google specifically, or papers relating to YouTube's recommendation system, and have AI whip that shit up. Just note to yourself you're basically engineering your own addiction when you do that, so it's probably best to not reveal those systems.>Dark Patterns>Behavioral design>"Nudging" in designAll good topics to search up
>>109581661>wait, Tor has only 4000 nodes?Exit nodes>doesn't that make I2P kinda of better in terms of anonymizing, since every user is pretty much a node?Technically yes but in the end your anonymity is more dependent on user base than anything else. However, due to the P2P structure of I2P most attacks are much harder to perform
>>109581533>The reason they originally added minimum watch requirements was to stop scam videos and shitty clickbait + misleading titles from getting ungodly amounts of views.That almost made it worse for viewers, because with a 30 sec minimum watch time, creators were incentivized to stall and lead you on for the first 30 seconds before admitting what the video was actually about. Maybe now they'll drop the facade and waste our time slightly less.
>>109581661How many exit nodes does I2P have? can you even use I2P to contact "surface websites"? I thought you can only use it for hidden sites.
>>109581599The number of views you get in the first couple of hours will influence the number of people that will see your video in the recommended sidebar, anon.
>>109581671>will clickbait become worse? is that still possible?Yes, in the early days of youtube (especially when you were paid by views) clickbaiting was much worse. Nowadays many clickbaiting strategies (like coombaiting and edginess) died because you want to maximize view time and lots of stuff can get demonetized. >>109581689There are some outbound tunnels
>>109581695But who cares if it's all artificial and you yourself know that. You may as well be writing a report card and grading it yourself.
>>109581673>you can and should just implement the personalization yourself, on device, if you want it.There's a third, even better option
>>109581679still, the number of nodes is extremely lower than I expected it to be, especially since more and more people learnt about it through the years>>109581689the only reason I use I2P is because a site I visit has a backup site there in case their surface and .onion website goes down, otherwise I'm pretty parallel and don't use either Tor nor I2P on a daily basis like I do with my music folder and Steam library
>(Rather than be forced to play!)You fucking think?!? LOLhttps://dl.acm.org/doi/epdf/10.1145/1645953.1645990>>109581710That falls short of being better because you're still sending plenty of data to Google
>>109581711>still, the number of nodes is extremely lower than I expected it to be, especially since more and more people learnt about it through the yearsThat's because exit nodes are the ones that are most at risk. In some countries you'll be charged with aiding criminals in their doings simply for hosting an exit nodes that was used for some malicious purpose. Honestly the infrastructure design of Tor is just completely outdated. >>109581710>Still having an account>Still accessing youtube.com N. G. M. I.
>>109581196So, if I open 30 tabs to the same video, and they play simultaneously, each will count as a view?
>>109581726Tor is fine until you demonstrate provably otherwise. All the source code is open. The entire org structure is transparent. If you see an issue in any of the software or organization, lets hear it, otherwise Tor remains safe as far as anyone knows.
>>109581709It is only artificial initially, then it is real. that is the point.It is impossible to get real views without getting recommended to someone or posting your video on reddit/twitter. and I am not doing the latter, so I need to convince the algorithm that people are watching this and it should be shown to others
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>>109581739The only issue with Tor is that no torrent client supports it nicely>b-b-but the bandwidthso decrease the maximum peer count to make it acceptable to the tor network
>>109581739The problem with Tor is that it encourages people taking advantage of any node while not contributing. This isn't a code problem or an org, it's a design problem. Just don't be a retard and use I2P
>>109581748Or just use I2P that is helped by you torrenting
>>109581748That is not an issue of tor. Do not torrent over tor. I remember being a literal child reading tor documentation where it explicitly tells you not to do that and the reasons why. By all means, use onionshare, use IPFS, use I2P (which actually is great for torrenting! go fucking use i2p for torrenting!)But don't torrent over Tor. You are stupid if you do. If you need a proxylist just let me know buddy I'll give you one so you don't have to spend the tor network's precious bandwidth on you downloading whatever it is.
/vt/ is crying about this for some reason kek
>>109581740Makes no sense to me. Sounds like paying time or money to be popular with bots and strangers instead of the people you made it for.
>>109581498There were 30 minute/hour long delays in view counts updating, but videos with shadowbans had their view counts frozen ~1250 views. It was especially obvious when other sites linking to a video got tens of thousands of hits and there were more unique commenters on a thirdparty site than actual views to the video.
>>109581196To compensate, they'll probably give creators less money. Makign THOSE take even more jewish (((sponsoring))) deals.I'm glad I was there for the golden years.
>>109581765yeah but then the torrent traffic goes through *my* IP meaning that the ISP will send me letters anyways
Here you go just in case anyone else needs themhttps://github.com/FreeFolksOn/abc-configs-free-vpn-proxy-list
>>109581769The only reason to not torrent over Tor is because bittorrent uses many peers at once to maximize the bandwidth.But if you lower the peer count, it is basically the same as downloading a file over httpI2P cannot work because you are also a node, meaning while you can torrent, other people will also torrent through your IP
>>109581794>What is encryption
>>109581809>I2P cannot work because you are also a node, meaning while you can torrent, other people will also torrent through your IP>>109581812
>>109581809Can you stop the metaphors and speak using technical terms
>>109581196I only go to youtube when I need educational/how-to shit on some project I'm planning on doing. All my subscriptions go to my RSS reader and I download the video straight from there.
>>109581812If you are the exit node, traffic goes from your computer to the peer. And if the peer is a copyright hunter agency, they will log *your* IP as the "pirate"
>>109581196>Invidious>yt-dlpnot-my-problem.jxl
>>109581863>Exit nodeAnon, there are no 'exit nodes' in I2P unless you go out of your way to connect to the clearnet. If not your ISP will only see that you are connecting to another device which is one of many hops to one of the people who send you encrypted data which they can't decrypt unless they want to financially ruin themselves just to abide an unenforceable law. The hop doesn't know your goal. Your ISP doesn't know the goal. Some hunter knows that you didn't send a request if they directly connect to you and you can't know what kinda data they're sending since it's end-to-end encrypted.
>>109581905>unless you go out of your way to connect to the clearnetor unless someone else goes out of their way to connect to the clearnet through your node.
>>109581905The hunter is the destination. It is a copyright enforcement agency pretending to be a peer. And if you are running a server with bind() and listen() calls, then the accept() call can return the IP of whoever is connecting yes?And then they give that IP to their lawyers
>>109581196still using Invidious servers when they work. might set up my own private server. or just write some auto youtube embedder html thingy and copy it to my desktop.AFAIK, watchtime was what made youtube get more laggy in the first place,with its tracking scripts(and made indie channels poorer). this would probably be a good thing. it's also a sign that youtube is dying , so they're trying to make their viewcounts higher to attract more ads and investments.
>>109581787>shadowbans had their view counts frozen ~1250 views.didn't know it was this bad already, 15 yrs ago. we need Dailymotion and Rumble to succeed to kill the evil of youtube.
>>109581649my hated woked lefty channel doesn't own youtube, stupid. the channel isn't paying for the ads.are u a chatbot or trolling?
>>109581950This. Chuds think labor, benefits, equipment, overhead, electricity, and everything is magically free. I don't understand poor people some times.
