You fucks told me burn in was fixed but there has been ZERO improvements. Now I'm stuck with this goy technology and will have to replace my monitor within 5 years when real monitors easily last 10.
OLED TVs and monitors use slightly different tech.I don't remember the details but generally the smaller the display the longer their lifespan.
OLEDs are for white people because you have to treat them properly and not be lazy.
it's ogre. color fringing blessed me with eye cancer
>>109582903Is that why phones with OLED and AMOLED almost never get burn in?
goys can't afford oled so they have to settle for miniled
>>109582875>You fucks told meThey were corporate shills the entire time.
>>109582910Congratulations, you'll soon be free from this torment
>>109582875Use a distro with xorg and a real screensaver.
>>109583025miniled > oled in bright rooms
>>109582875Are these real monitors here with us today?
>>109582875>5 yearsHahahahaha!!!!11111... more like 1.5y, mate
less power draw = less heat = less burn inthe new tandem OLED's are like 20% more power or something, so they should last 20% longer if they aren't run at max brightness. And 20% more expensive.
>>109582903>I don't remember the details but generally the smaller the display the longer their lifespan.My phone panel has severe burn-in.Granted I touch grass so the auto brightness is set to overdrive all the time.
>>109582875>have to replace my monitor within 5 yearsWhy?Do you always do what youtube men tell you to do?Fucking cattle.
>>109583634>this technology sucks>have you used it>well no but youtube man told me it sucksKill yourself. I purchased my LG 42" in 2022. Nothing wrong with it today.
>>109584631It's because you're blind or because it's ot OLED at all
>>109584631display full grey and take a close look. What you will see, is a problem on all OLEDs. What can be done? just go home, sit down and moan. All display technologies still have major compromises. CRTs died for our sins of liquid crystal lust. We can hope the chinky pinkies start making SEDs / FEDs, or that uLEDs can scale down soon enough.
>>109582875OLED is consumable. Fares far worse than CRT phosphors burn-in wise. OLED is well suited for super high pixel densities, like on phones or watches, camera displays etc. as current density is far lower per pixel. But half-life is too short still for displays of reasonable size like for monitors or TVs.
>>109585717he's blind because it's OLED
>>109582875If I wanted to upgrade to an 55-inch OLED TV, are LGs the best?
I love these threads of anti oled seetheYou dont actually own an OLED, if you did you wouldnt be complaining about it one bitNow run the new OLEDs at the same brightness of the old OLEDs.
>>109586592No burn in even on grey test patterns and also:If you only notice it if you specifically look for it, is it really an issue at all?
>>109584631>nooooo you can't just read a spec sheet and see the retarded sub pixel layout! YOU HAVE TO BE RETARDED LIKE ME AND BUY INTO DEAD END TECH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>109587393Is the terrible subpixel layout in the room with us right now?WRGB is a great subpixel layout, and better for text then regular RGB layout
>>109582875I love my IPS so much bros it's unreal
Who even watches the news that fucking much?
>>109584631same. it's pristine. i can try and film it for retards on here if they dont believe it.NEET usage btw, every day.
>>109587422imagine selling your oled as sh and having a horse cock burned in lol
>>109582875Don't leave it on CNN all day, boomer
>>109587416the "i have never tried anything better" phenomenonGood for youI am the same way with my speakers for now, they arent great but they sound great to me
>>109587432sauce?
>>109582875sorry but i'll be using a 27" 1440p IPS until i die
>>109587463I mean I do have oleds on my phone. shit's good but I like my display to last for a decade at least. my current display already has 7 years if not 8, so I'll keep milking it for a few more years
>>109587507use it untill it breaks, but i wouldnt buy a new LCD anymore atpat most a cheap used lcdI got an OLED earlier this year, lets see how long it will lastim more concerned about it breaking when moving, I hate how thin they make them
>>109587390There should not be burn-in visible at all, the issue I'm referring to is with grey uniformity AKA 'dirty greys' / 'banding', all OLEDs (esp. monitors / TVs). It's inherent to OLED technology. The other major issue with OLEDs is black crush without calibration, but here's EZ fix. raise the black level till level 1's just barely visible. LGs have an option to do thishttp://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php@200 nits full white, earliest grey shade is 3 assuming perfect sRGB greyscale tracking. infinite blacks are simply le bad.
>>109587580yeah grey uniformity isnt perfect on my panel, no black crush thoughyoud think theyd have fixed that by now
>>109587655It's rather impossible to fix. OLEDs still have burn-in risk, but it's not as significant of an issue as the inherent luminance instability. OLEDs are rather complicated, but anyway, to keep it simple (stupid, for myself), in a diode, you get drain to source current above a threshold voltage, below which there's little leakage, it's mainly temperature dependent below. Above threshold voltage, drain -> source current is exponential. OLEDs are 'biased' into conduction, with the 'video signal' superimposed onto this, so you get good greyscale, and light gets emitted upon electron hole recombination (magic happens between p and n layers). But problem is the threshold voltage is unstable, in both short (10^3 seconds) and long (10^4 hours / burn-in) time scales. Small shifts in threshold voltage can drastically impact greyscale tracking. And worse, there's also hysteresis, so the threshold voltage is dependent the previously applied voltage. So the power delivery circuitry horribly complicated to mitigate this, yet get VRR flicker, grey uniformity, white balance shift, are all as a result of OLED instability.Here's some cryptic threshold voltage mitigation paper I don't get: https://sid.org/Portals/sid/Files/SID-Digest/docs/P-231.pdf
>>109587410Holy mother of cope. I have seen some delusional bullshit over the years but defending OLED subpixel layouts is something else. Nothing to be proud of, in fact you should kill your entire bloodline and then yourself, but it is noteworthy I'll give you that.
When my OLED gets burn-in I'll buy another OLED.
>>109587940ah that makes sense, I assumed it was a QC issueyeah the bands make sense now, but its still an annoying visual flaw>>109587946Cant speak on QD OLED, but WRGB layout is unironically better for text then regular RGB lcds.You cant get this clear text without any fringing from a normal LCDObviously WRGB is not the future for other reasons, but the text looks good
>>109588090My plan exactly. So far 6 years in and no significant burn in though
>>109582905>treat your oled tv like the hwhite peoplewith flowers and champagne
mini LEDs are just as good. no copium
>>109588264don't they have permanent bloom or can you disable it?
>>109588264kys shill
>>109588279https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aPy5lVq-wB4no
>>109588090same, i'd probably buy a new monitor every decade anyway
>>109588319its still an LCD with a fancy backlightThe tranny of display technologyWow you almost cant tell im not a real self emissive display tech!I pass, just ignore my response times plase
>>109588264>quantum dots electric boogaloo
>>109582875yeah oled is a scam, always has been.good blacks aren't worth buying garbage tech that does not last>Now I'm stuck with this goy technology and will have to replace my monitor within 5 years when real monitors easily last 10.I sent mine back under 24h, it's just not worth the headache>>109582905>imagine having to care about your monitor so it can reach its warranty period lmaoutter garbage>>109583004they do get burn-in though, including iphone and samsung.>>109583025good miniled cost more than oled though.>>109583042I've been shilling again them here for over a decade>>109583332screensaver are for crt>>109585717this, it's the same with minimalist fags>hurr you don't need a whole DEthey barely use their computers to scroll reddit, read mails and watch anime, of course they won't feel the lack of feature lmao, bunch of fucking larpers, never ever listen to them.>>109588264only with enough dimming zones>>109588341>The tranny of display technologyyou're talking about the suicidal oled tech that can't last over 15 years which is normal lifespan for a monitor, right?>Wow you almost cant tell im not a real self emissive display tech!who give a fuck>I pass, just ignore my response times plaseit's not like you can see the latency on ANY modern (last 15 years) monitors...>inb4 I can on my chinkshit tvyeah and we're talking about monitors you fucking mong
>>109588531thats alot of words for I am a poor retarded jeet
>>109588531>I've been shilling again them here for over a decadeThe absolute state of anti oled pajeets
>>109588579>>109588585cope harder akshit and ranshdik, it won't make your streets any cleaner
>>109582875>You fucks told me burn in was fixedpeople literally told you the opposite only the oledfags lied to you about it>muh deeper blacks>muh I buy a new screen every two years anyway lolyou fell for this shit
>>109588608non europeans arent people.
>>109588663100%, oled is still garbage tech though
>>109588688anything to get us away from LCD
>>109582875HA HA.
>>109582875stop watching CNN
>>109588695yes, this dogshit tech has to die, a monitor that last less than a decade is a shitty produt
>>109584631post pure magenta image with blue burn in
>>109588707yeah i was talking about lcd you fucking botid take burn in over shitty lcd image quality every day of the week
Your choice is a TV that has excellent picture, but will eventually degrade over thousands of hours of use, or a TV that won't degrade but will always have worse picture quality and will probably die sooner.Both cheap edge-lit and more expensive mini-LED TVs are failure-prone, not the LCD panel itself usually but the backlight that is overdriven and cooks itself.
>>109588763The third option:
>>109588849Plasma is dead sorry, it also degraded over time, consumed a lot of energy and required active cooling. It was great at the time though.
>>109588763>TV that won't degrade but will always have worse picture qualityonly in dark scenes which are rare>will probably die sooner.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>Both cheap edge-lit and more expensive mini-LED TVs are failure-proneyeah no shit, universe entropy, laws of thermodynamics, who the fuck cares.oled will looks like ass much sooner because you'll see the bbc logo in a corner all the fucking time.>not the LCD panel itself usually but the backlight that is overdriven and cooks itself.it's easy to change btw
>>109588853mines not dead.but yeah >>109588906Nigger why the fuck lie to defend dogshit LCDs.People put up with plasmas that require 4 fans and consume 500 Watts, LCDs are good for calculators and digital watches and thats about it
>>109582875>I run my monitor 24/7 on full brightness with static contentsounds like a you problem
>>109588906Dark scenes are about half of what you see when watching a movie.Anyway, you're a retard, both the RTINGS torture test and repair technicians see the same results, about 50% failure rate for backlights. And no, most of the time changing out individual burnt LEDs is not "easy", and when they damage your diffusor layer the TV becomes e-waste.
>>109588969IPS + miniled truely is king
>>109588986
>>109582875ive had an oled for like 2 or 3 years and it will automatically run panel protect thing every few hours for like 2 minutes to lower the chance of burn in I have had zero issues and I've had the same image sitting on my monitor for like entire days
>>109582875burn-in wasn't fixed, they just use more wear leveling to get more acceptable life times out of screens.all oleds and quantum dot tech is designed to self destruct over time. so of course companies are pushing it because you are guaranteed to need a new one over time, they don't have to wait 10+ years until a normal IPS panel breaks.
>>109589000True but you can turn that off in most miniled monitors and get a vanilla fast IPS panel. It's up to whatever you prefer.
>>109582875Yes. They observe no visible burn in after 10 months and declare victory. Meanwhile my first non-laptop LCD from 2008 still makes a fine side monitor.
>>109589057So I get to choose from shitty colors/contrast OR horrible bloomOH boy oh boy I can't wait.
>>109583004You also replace your phone in less than 5 years or so. Desktop monitors get moved from one PC to the next if they're good and nothing is wrong with them.
>>109589145I've had my OLED laptop for 3 years, use it 8+ hours every day and still don't see any burn in, or does that not count too for some reason?
>>109588957>Nigger why the fuck lie to defend dogshit LCDs.the better tech>People put up with plasmas that require 4 fans and consume 500 Watts, LCDs are good for calculators and digital watches and thats about itwrong>Dark scenes are about half of what you see when watching a movie.wrong>Anyway, you're a retard, both the RTINGS torture testI don't trust these retards, they don't know shit about monitors and never ever talk about firmware bugs and important things like deep-sleep loops on lg if you have two similar monitors or things like this, you know, what really matter instead of fucking image quality that peak 10 years ago anyways.all testers of any kind of hardware are morons
>>109589409>all testers of any kind of hardware are moronsYes yes, everyone except you is a moron, despite you writing the most idiotic posts ITT.
>>109589450>everyone except you is a moronwrong, only these fucking esandwichmen who don't know shit>despite you writing the most idiotic posts ITT.you just can't prove me wrong, oled has nothing for itself beside deep blacks, that's it, it's a retarded tech and you know it.
>>109589474All you've done so far is cope my man>dark scenes don't matter>these industry professionals don't know shit, their data about failure rates is irrelevant >you can just replace LEDs when they burn out bro>people didn't buy plasma (I guess?)
>>1095892163 years is just getting started for a monitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1vjqQnNz3c
>>109589580>search for OLED and regret>don't even watch the video you're linking to
>>109589409I repeat, people bought more expensive super hot and power hungry plasma screens that require fans on the back, because using LCD sucked so much.This is a fact.No one who cares about image quality has ever even considered an LCD, we built Plasmas just so we didnt have to suffer LCDs into the 2010s untill OLED replaced them.>image quality peaked 10 yearsKill yourself We arent even halfway there yet
I miss when image technology was glowing tubes or plasma panelsLEDs are gay
>>109586592>SEDs / FEDsWe strayed from the good timeline.
>>109589724if it was worthwhile it would have been made.Plasma was better
>>109589722CRTs had a ton of downsides too
>>109589747Yeah but CRTs are sexy and I like glowing tubesIn raw image quality OLED is far ahead apart from motion
>>109589738The hype around TV thinness that made plasma unappealing next to LCD also made SED / FED dead in the water.
>>109589753That's just the nostalgia. I'm in europe so most CRT TVs flickered at 50Hz and you could clearly hear the whine coming from them, 100Hz TVs came out in the 90s but were expensive. Black levels in a well lit room were abysmal, the geometry was never perfect unless you had an expensive monitor with a bunch of adjustments. It took time for them to warm up. If you moved a big white window you could see how the brightness would lower and the geometry would change slightly depending on how much white was on screen. The phosphorous took some time to turn black so you could see a trail behind a white mouse cursor on a black background, in fact there was a bit of haloing too. You would always see the thin wires holding up the aperture grille.
>>109589747A perfect display technology is impossible, IPS LCD seems to be the most reliable without the terrible motion clarity of VA, but it doesn't almost never has full array local dimming like OLED inherently does, although the problem of burn in dies exist there. (although it varies greatly across individual cases, its a silicon lottery sort of deal)Plasma was even worse for burn-in, and CRT's are all slowly degrading and it's unlikely new ones will ever be produced. (as much as I love them, they will always be an enthusiast product now that cheaper display technology exists.)Really its just a matter of how much you're willing to sacrifice long term reliability for your own specific tastes, most people don't actually care about any of this and just buy whatever is cheapest.
>>109589811Yes I know, that's why I'm okay with OLED on my TV, I watch movies and play games, it's not on 24/7 so it will last me for years to come. My desktop monitor is IPS (black) one of those with 2000:1 contrast, but it still looks awful in a dim room compared to OLED, pic related.My Mitsubishi 2070SB which I used for a very long time since I refused to switch to LCD isn't as punchy as it used to be, and the focus isn't as sharp, even after tweaking the knobs. But realistically even if they still sold it I wouldn't buy a new one.
>>109589836now turn on the lights and put on a regular image thats not mostly dark
>>109582875Does anybody make an OLED without PWM flicker yet?
>>109582875burn in happens because retards rape their eyes with full brightness instead of using like 70%, it was true with crts and is true with oled
>>109589861But the whole point is that it's supposed to look good in any scene/environment. Pic related is the same monitor next to my OLED laptop.
>>109589806I actively use CRts and I enjoy em, simple asMy euro CRT TV is very nice for retro games, I run it 60hz though>>109589802SED was dead long before that lolDead end technology, no idea why some people are so obsessed with it.It would have had many of the drawbacks of crt, without any of the advantages
>>109589887anon, that difference is mostly glossy vs matte...if that LCD was glossy it would not look nearly as poorThats why you need to avoid matte displays
>>109589879Nah it happens because oled is shit technology and using it for normal PC stuff like web browsing or playing games with UI causes burn in.
>>109589890I still use my 2070SB but only for retro gaming when I'm home for the holidays.>>109589897But if it was glossy you would see reflections in a well-lit room.OLED simply handles both dark and bright scenes better. Especially if you enjoy horror games and movies it makes a huge difference.
VA masterrace wins again.
>>109583332Why the fuck would you use a backwards ass screensaver? Turn your monitor off. Or if it really has to be on, fullscreen a black frame.
>>109589943VA has nothing going for it except good static contrast. The viewing angles are so bad that when you sit directly in front of the screen you see the colours and contrast shift from the centre towards the corners.
>>109589927I use a 200GS with my secondary PC for retro games and old anime, and a CRT TV hooked up the WiiBut for modern games I use the OLED nowI have a few high end tubes, really nice ones, but 200GS is such a comfy feelI like switching out crts every now and again, shadow mask to apature grilleMy favorite Monitor of all time is probably Phillips 201p, has a 22 inch Diamondtron tube that I removed the antiglare coating from for more brightness, its really stunning and sharp, but I generally prefer curved tubes for retro
>>109589890>It would have had many of the drawbacks of crt, without any of the advantagesWhat is this revisionism?
>>109589954delusional cope
>>109589861Oled is overrated. Outside of meme dark image comparisons in dim rooms it looks almost identical to IPS.
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>>109589976The 2070SB was so good I only stopped using it in 2013, and I was still mad that I "had" to switch to LCD.Going back to 60/75Hz was awful. >>109589983Nah, you're the one coping that VA is actually good.I've got a relatively modern VA gaming monitor too (DELL S3220DGF), and I've seen plenty of other VA monitors and TVs.
>>109589977Revisionism?What makes CRTs great is multiscan and rolling scanSED lacks both of thoseBut keeps drawbacks like phosphor trailingI dont see the upside here, plasma is simply a better technology
>>109590041I used CRTs as a main display untill this yearDiamondtrons are the best, Trinitrons cool tooCalibrated this one recently
>>109590021I like playing games in a dark room.
>>109590021Why are dark scenes a meme exactly? This is the dumbest argument being repeated in this thread. When you watch a movie do you do it with your curtains drawn or do you open them to let all the sunlight into your room? When you play a game do you do it with the lights turned on as if you're in an office?
>>109590094I'm pointing out all the online comparisons that make OLED look good by turning off the lights and putting on a mostly dark image are dumb and situational. Few people actually use their monitors like this.The image I posted is normal lighting conditions with the curtains up (not even direct sunlight or curtains all the way up). I can put up a mostly dark image and even in these lighting conditions the blacks look almost the same as IPS. You only see those big differences when you turn off the lights AND in dark scenes. Even with the lights off, normal scenes look almost identical.
>>109588763>over thousands of hours of useMy C4 already has pretty severe burn in with 1k hours of use. And I only use for movies and tv shows
>>109590175>dumb and situationalThe same could be said for your comparison, you found the one specific case where IPS looks close enough to OLED, whereas OLED looks good in every environment. >Few people actually use their monitors like this.That's just your assumption though. Perhaps a coping mechanism built over many years of having to deal with the poor blacks and low contrast of IPS, once you're free from those constraints you can enjoy vidya and film in a dark room.
>>109590243pics or it didnt happen.
So what's the news on QDEL? Still coming or another dead end like Micro LED?
>>109590021I was honestly disappointed when I got mine. For anime in particular OLED is useless because almost every scene is super bright and colorful.It's nice when I'm watching movies but I'm watching anime 80% of the time so I feel like I just wasted a lot of money on something that I get no usage out of it and I have to babysit with hiding task manager, solid black wallpaper, etc
>>109590175>not even direct sunlightwell direct sunlight outright kills oled displays, I had to change my entire room set up for my tv because of it
>>109590251>OLED looks good in every environmentexcept when it looks like IPS for most of the day with ambient lighting and you need to go out of your way to dim the lights to create the perfect situation and you need to find a dark scene because oled will get mogged by mini led in bright scenes
>>109590310Maybe try some older anime that got a HD/4K remaster from film.Project A-ko got a 4K Blu-Ray not long ago. Even stuff like Crying Freeman or Shin Cutie Honey in regular HD look great.
>>109590310Anime is kinda shit from a technical standpoint. If you have a good sound system or headphones you'll know that the audio is also mixed in such a way that the dialogue is intelligible even on the shittiest of children's room TVs, but there's no deep bass or anything exciting to listen to. >>109590325You keep repeating the same cope over and over again. Want to know what "going out of your way" actually looks like? See pic related.I used to put a lamp behind my TV to increase the perceived contrast in dark scenes and avoid seeing the screen against a dark background.Mini LED even with hundreds of individual zones still fall apart just by having subtitles on, you can always see the haloing.
>>109590417Posted the wrong photo, but same thing I had a light behind the monitor too.
>>109588986Fast VA + miniLED is the actual king.Yes, there's still smear. Yes, VA viewing angles are still atrocious. But IPS is truly awful with that glow, which infuriatingly enough can be mitigated with a relatively cheap polarizer (ATW) that manufacturers seem allergic to addingAFAIK LG is starting to put them in their high end IPS miniLEDs now, so that's a good sign.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDQCOLsgYOoMiniLED is closer to OLED blacks than OLED is to MiniLED's brightness.OLED is literally irrelevant.
>>109588319>algorithm biases blooming reduction to the point that oled is brighter and more colorful than the miniled even in high APL>miniled still bloomszoz
>>109590459>miniLED is closer to OLED bl-ACK!!
>>109590417you are in denial. requiring a dark room for your display to look good doesn't sound like "every environment" to me.
>>109590452I visited a few stores today to check out some models to replace this TV >>109590421The problem is the cheap miniLED are shit and the expensive ones cost the same as an entry level 55" OLED (which you can now find for 650 EUR), and even with a decent miniLED you still get this - >>109590480
>>109590459>judging a display by peak brightnessgood goy
>>109590041holy shit, that's some of the best convergence I've ever seen.>>109590043SED's just a very efficient plasma, with far better greyscale. CRT and SED phosphor decay times should indeed have been similar as both react to ~keV order electrons versus UV radiation in plasmas.>>109590047I'm selling all my CRTs. LaCie electron 22 Blue II (122KHz), Diamondtron 93SB (96KHz), BYM F996 (95KHz). I can't anymore. My eyes need higher resolution. They heat my room up a lot. I'd rather have IPS response times, over le heckin motion clarity and aesthetic CRT blooming. 50 quid each, don't care anymore, it's all I ask for. I'm not replacing them with OLEDs or mini-LEDs, I'll just display everything in my mind, morse code the RGB values of each pixel, with enough LSD it will work look better than any display.
>>109590459Yeah until it moves fast and you notice the difference in response time between the panel and backlight. I too like my stationary Excel sheets to sear my retinas
>>109590489Works on my machine.my OLED looks great in the light and you are a gay faggot
>>109590489>you are in denial. requiring a dark room for your display to look good doesn't sound like "every environment" to meYou're trying to change the argument.I said OLED looks good in every environment, you're the one who has to have the lights on all the time I can enjoy my OLED in any environment. >>109590496It really was/is a great CRT, you could also adjust every setting via software (NaViSet).
>>109590492Here's my AOC Q27G40XMN VA miniled (left) next to my Alienware AW2725DF qdOLED (right)I do 99% of my gaymen on the OLED.
>>109590506You like Excel so much it gets burned into your screen for using it LMAO
>>109582875works on my machine
>>109590520Yeah it looks good on a 27" monitor with over 1000 individual zones, but the TVs have 4x or larger display area and less zones to work with so each zone is massive. They're impressively bright at least, unfortunately I couldn't come to any conclusions just from looking at the TVs in the store. The demos are specifically designed to highlight their strengths i.e. there was no fast motion on the miniLED VA panel TVs or anything that would highlight the haloing.
>>109590459>miniled beats oled in image quality>pulsar beats oled in motion clarityits over...
>>109590578TVs also generally have better algorithms though. And higher zone counts in general.
>>109590578Honestly I would just go for an OLED. These bright as fuck miniLED TVs have just as many (if not more) issues with longevity/QC than OLEDs.See: https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results
>>109582875all the stuff about blacks and hdr is a psyopyour eyes adjust to whatever picture in less than a minuteall media (digital) is compressed to shit and looks like aids anyway. who cares.stop pretending to be autisticdont they teach the emperors new clothes in school any more. tech companys just want you to buy a new screen every year. they will do anything for your money.
>>109590589>higher zone counts in general.Only the high-end ones, the low end have a lot less. >>109590602I have a 55" OLED as my primary TV, I'm looking for a TV to upgrade this one >>109590421 It's only going to be used occasionally when I visit my hometown, but every time I go there I play vidya and watch movies with my old friends, so I'm divided on whether it's worth spending another 700 EUR for a TV I'll use maybe 2 months of the year.I was hoping I could get something decent enough for around 400 EUR, but all the options come with massive compromises.
>>109582875>2022retard
>>109582875>everyone said burn in is not a thing anymore on modern oleds>it actually wasntKEK this is proof this shit is a cult. Everyone is completely clueless.
>>109590496>>109590519I'm jealous. I got a 21" Trinitron TV that I love dearly but I've never been lucky in finding a good CRT monitor, only a 17" Compaq that no longer powers on.Prices for CRT monitors have exploded to a point it doesn't make sense anymore
>>109590788Keep in mind the photos I posted are from 2007, the monitor is a bit tired now after almost... 20 years.
>>109582875Come on man lmaoLiterally every single burn-in review or investigation finds that burn-in does, in fact happen. Every one.If you look up user reports, there are plenty of those too, with photos of burned-in screens to back them upEvery reasonable person tells you that OLED is fragile and your use case may cause visible degradation rather quicklyThe only ones telling you burn-in is not a problem must be marketers and coping retards.
>>109587940>in a diode, you get drain to source currentAren't the diode electrical connections called anode and cathode? I thought drain and source were on MOSFETs.>>109588279You can disable the FALD (full array local dimming) feature, at which point it operates like any other LCD (so the brightness / contrast benefits also go with it). With FALD on there will be noticeable blooming in certain scenes, though in content like video games or just videos / movies these are very rare and most of the time you will not see any issue. Even when there are issues, it's still better than a normal backlight on LCD since you effectively have localized backlight bleed as opposed to having it all over the screen, at all times. If you turn on FALD for desktop use though it's a lot more visible, because desktop UIs are full of large areas of perfectly uniform color and for example mouse movement over such an area might cause the backlight to change brightness while chasing the mouse, which would be visible. It can also be visible when smooth scrolling UIs and so on.If you use a FALD monitor, you may want to turn it off for desktop / productivity use and only turn it on for content consumption or when playing games. If you're lucky, your monitor will support feature toggling over DDC / CI so you can set up a hotkey combo on the PC side to toggle FALD, so you don't have to go in the monitor menus all the time.
Lcd sucks and I refuse to use it.Simple as.Its not even an option.Oled could burn in 10x faster, and id just use crt instead of lcd.I will never use lcd bo matter how much you shill garbage like miniLED go kill yourself
NOOOO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND I WATCHED THIS VIDEO WHERE THEY USED THEIR MONITOR FOR 3000 HOURS (4 months) AND SAID BURN IN IS A NONISSUE
>>109591612Thank you valued customer. Don't worry about the burn in - we have your next monitor right here sir. It will be $1000 plus tips :)
>>109587507I have a LG C7 from 2017 without any burn-in (only seen temporary image retention in tests), as well as a 2024 LG C4, and a AW3423DW monitor. IPS is absolute trash in comparison, especially for movies and gaming. IPS is arguably more rational for productivity but not for leisure. Contrast is trash, dimming zones are trash next to pixel-level control, pixel response times are trash and HDR on IPS is a joke.
Recently bought this off an office supplies account off eBay for $900. It's the one with the nano texture matte finish and doesn't have the shitty stand plus it works perfectly on my work issued Dell laptop.Absolutely love it but I still think it was somewhat too much and it's crazy they ask like $2k for this msrp.
>>109592844Fuck, meant to post this with it.
There's nothing inherently wrong with burn in. It's a good indicator that you have the monitor for long enough and that it's time to upgrade to a new monitor.
You have to turn OLEDs off with the remote so their wear cycling runs. More brightness means a longer lifespan over many cycles, it doesn't mean you won't get burn in. Even LEDs will lose like 3-5% brightness over a few couple years, meaning a microLED would also have noticeable burn-in. It just happens faster in OLEDs if you keep them on all the time. It's the nature of anything that's individually lit.
>>109582875retard here. i know newer OLEDs are brighter. is burn in at the same brightness improved? my guess is they're comparing old-gen max brightness to current-gen max brightness
I just want to upgrade to a UWQHD LCD display but all the manufacturers are focusing on OLED so that they can make you pay top dollars to replace your display every couple of years.And for the UWQHD LCDs that are available...>no local dimming>$400Fuck off.
>>109592944Thank you valued customer. We have put in a preorder for your next monitor 6 months from now. No need to thank us! Just have your money ready!
>>109582875So you retards just leave CNN running 24/7 or some dogshit? Burn in is not a real issue.It's like complaining about a pillow loosing it's comfort because you left a bowling ball resenting on it for a year and now you want to sleep on it.
>>109593711Normal people view the same content all day on their monitors, retard. The taskbar, window placements, I haven't changed mine in 5 years.
>>109593711Burn-in is an issue for every person who uses the screen for anything other than full-screen video 24/7. If all you do is watch YT full-screen all day it's fine, otherwise your OS or other commonly used UIs (including those in games) will rape it.
>>109594292>source: it came to me in a dreamDark mode bro.
>>109594318Yeah just turn the screen off, it will not burn in if it's all black, all the time :)
>>109582875Lol i wish mine did this so i could file a warranty claim, get a replacement shipped to me, and then send my old one in using the prepaid label. Unfortunately mine is still perfect after a couple thousand hours of use. Darn it Dell/Alienware, too reliable lmfao
>>109591771You can literally just...Ignore burn inMy phone is burned in since I bought it used from some boomer, still looks better then any LCDSo what if you have UI burned into the edges of the screen eventually?Absolute non issue>>109593839Yes, but also if you get a small X burned in on the top of your screen, or a faint taskbar, who cares?I have Linux taskbar burned into one of my CRTs, its literally only noticable on white and doesnt impact usability
>>109593329>ultra wide>lcdActual goy cattlecrazy>>109592854>900$ LCD>mattelollmao
>>109588663you are jewish
>>109594515Non.Europeans.Are.Not.People.
digital killed the vibes despite fixing problems. analog tehcnology was a link straight to the fabric of the universe, you could feel the warmth and the electricity in the air, it was a tactile technology, tthat felt powerful, like you had some wizard shit in your room, it gave an emotional attachment, it had less control and was wild, like the snow on crt, , yu could fix shit by tapping the top putting your finge rin the antenna etc, it was a magical boxanalog technology was kino and a bond between the light/electric world and the human. even to this day nothing will make your feel dream and have chills more than old schools sounds analogously produced say on fucking super metroid, you can hear the electrons sing, its an experience. and nothing is ever the same everything has a strong signature too. you want kino in fiction you bring the analog. digital is controlled, without surpriseit does the job but not the joy. maybe aklso static is literally, physically exciting, in the air etc. certainyl influence your emotional state. the calm before the storm is always exciting
>>109594528YouAreJewish
>>109594557Jews are not europeanAnd non europeans arent people
>>109594562you re still jewish
>>109594580>everyone who doesnt like my hecking palirats is jewishWe will cry from the river to the sea untill palestine is free
>>109590421Resolution: 19x10
>>109582875>he fell for itGOTTEM
>>109588849Considering you also have CRT, which do you prefer for アニメ?
>>109594909old anime CRTnew anime Plasma just cause its widescreenWould love to have an FW900, that would be better then the plasma I think but also much smaller
I like TN's. Cheap and just works
>>109586592CRTs also have burn in. i only use mine to play video games for a reason.
>>109594292>24/7There's your problem already. You don't need to leave it on 24/7. It's a complete waste of power lmao.
Miniled is better
>>109598228see >>109589000
>>109598243see >>109598228
>>109598283>if I just ignore all dark scenes with small bright highlights then it's not a problemYeah i'm sure that's how movies/TV/games are designed.
>>109598313>if i just ignore 90% of the other scenes that don't involve dark scene with small bright highlights then oled is betteryou only play horror games or something? play more games
>>109598510I mean, outside of a direct side by side comparison, most people would think BOTH screens look great in 90% of other scenes.But the miniLED will always have blown-out haloing in darker scenes.
>>109598536oled does not have enough brightness for a real HDR experienceoled brightness is a bigger issue than haloing since it affects all highlights and bright scenes whereas haloing is very specific to small bright highlights in dark scenes and not all dark scenes
>>109598656>oled does not have enough brightness for a real HDR experienceThe fuck are you talking about, OLED has more than enough peak brightness for "a real HDR experience".Your eyes are not a lux meter we don't perceive brightness linearly, the higher you go the less impact it makes. If you're watching a film in a dark room, which is how films are supposed to be seen, even the most basic OLED is bright enough to sear your unsuspecting retinas.
>>109598742oled is not bright enough. see >>109598228the brightness difference is extremely obvious even in dark rooms.also being limited to dark rooms is a huge limitation while miniled looks good in any lighting situation
>>109598829>OLED is not bright enough = I am blindMy OLED gives me headaches at 80% brightness I dropped it down to 46 and yes I use it in lit roomsAlso MiniLED is worse then OLED in every other aspect like response time, viewing angles etcCope and seethe with your tranny techMiniLED is only even named that to decieve retards into thinking its an OLED competitor, when really its just an LCD with a slightly better backlight>>109598228useless comparison btw
>>109589753>>109590047I only watch my Urusei on fax machines.
>>109598829No shit you can crank up the brightness of miniLED higher then take a photo of the two screens with the exposure set correctly for the miniLED and the OLED will look dim in comparison.But that's not how you use a display IRL, so it's irrelevant. My LCD monitor "only" has a peak brightness of 350 nits and that's still way too bright.If you're a graphics designer working with SDR content a calibrated monitor is set to less than 200 nits.You're clinging to marketing bullshit thinking it's a solid argument, I doubt you've ever even calibrated a monitor in your life before.
>>109598921I regularly ejaculate to lum
>>109598951coom you say...
>>109590459>oledkeks
>keep brightness at lowest setting on anything I use>never have problems with any device regardless of type
>>109590459>they spent more for the inferior product
>>109588264love my tcl 27r94
