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How does one become a better programmer?
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>>109585700
You probably get a lot of generic advice: practice, learn from first principles, clean code, blah blah. But the truth is simple: be neurodivergent.
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>>109585700
haruhi posting is sufficient
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>>109585709
Or be schizophrenic if you wish to be like Terry Daivs.
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You have to like programming
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>>109585709
>Autists are like super important to us!
>Should we provide a work environment suited for neurodivergent people like private dark offices or letting them work from home?
>NOOO FUCK THOSE NEEDY SNOWFLAKES
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>>109585700
manual on the left, editor on the right, console to the bottom. Internet connection down.

But you will fail, you will never put in the necessary work.
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>>109585750
I hate modern offices. Give me a windowless room idc i just want to be ALONE.
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>>109585709
>neurodivergent
who came up with this gay ass term yeah im sure turbo spergs like to be lumped in with adhd normies
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You already know what you need to do but you will never take those steps you will be here forever posting tranime
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>>109585709
aspies <<<<<<<< polymaths
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>>109585845
cry more about it, sperg
we're gonna suck you dry until you burn out it in ten years and just hire a fresh 20 year old autist to replace you
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>>109585845
>>109586028
how do they get any sort of work done?
i feel like i coulndnt help myself but chat with coworkers, preferably of the big-tittied kind
and the place looks like it has an ample supply of these
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>>109586038
cont.
im legit the kind of animal that would be more productive in a cubicle
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>>109585700
what for? Just tell ai to do it for you. Progamming won't be a thing in a few years
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practice
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>>109586053
>in a few years
thats still a ways away.
and even then consumers wont have access to the nice toys, so its still gonna be the choice bw a dyslexic shatbot and diy
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>>109585700
RTFM unironically.
You dont know what you dont know so it wont ever occur to you what you are missing. Which is why you need to look at what exists. Only by knowing something exists will you think about using it when the situations occurs.
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>>109586053
Expertise will be forever essential in telling AI what to do. If you are an amateur directing an expert then the output will always be handicapped by your lack of knowledge.
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>>109586062
>>109586078
Sure but you won't find a job with it. Especially with jeets around. Can someone make better use of ai with a degree/ who is good at coding? Sure. Is someone like that necessary to shit out slop software for some super market? Nope.
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Program for 10 years.
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>>109586078
iw as gonna say hes talking about gai/sai
but youre right
one has to have some knowledge to be abme to design the right specs

bc even the smartest systems' output is gonna be shit if its generated to the wrong specs
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>>109586079
>Sure but you won't find a job with it.
Oh no.
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>>109586079
employement is not a goal its a means, kiddo
and its oftentimes even a great handicap

ive wageslaved for 10 years
worst waste of time in my life.
i could have learnt what ive learnt during that time in 2, maybe 3
and i spent the money with nothing to show for
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>>109586079
>>109586098
cont.
the only thing that matters are skills, and selling those skills
if you use the intermediary of an emplooyer,
youre cucked out of 99% of what you produce

so wageslavery should be a means, not a goal
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>How does one become a better programmer?
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>>109585700
Becoming a better problem solver in general is a way.
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>>109586079
AI acts as a multiplier on productivity and becomes quickly more expensive than the cost of the humans involved. The advantage of hiring 0.5 output programmers for 0.1 the price vanishes with AI.
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>>109585700
if you want a real answer, it's to work a lot on large, varied codebases. even better if there's horrific legacy code you have to learn how to handle. you pick up on a lot. everything is done for a reason, and understanding those reasons (even if they're not necessarily good reasons) really does more for comprehension and skill than anything else. plus, reading other people's code is a lot more difficult than writing your own
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>>109585700
Use AI. Embrace AI.Love using AI. Throw more money at AI. Worship Sam Altman. Worship Dario Wario
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just program alot and be observant of the patterns while avoiding wasting time on being a perfectionist. Do not worry about the usability of your API or how elegant your code is. Do constantly look up how other people program the same things and notice the pros and cons of their design. Ideally you should replicate their way of solving the problem. Like instead of writing a bitstream once from your own idea, look up how other people have done it and program it that way, then repeat one more time. This maximizes your learning but minimizes you productivity of course.
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>>109585700
Stop writing shitty code
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>>109585700
I also want to know
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>>109585700
Practice.
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>>109585845

is anduril the green mat one?
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>>109585700
>how does one become a better x
Practice.
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>>109585700
not by posting on 4chan
writing more code is a good place to start
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>>109591780
Just to spite you I'll become a good programmer now and then continue posting on the chan
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Upgrade to Fable
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>>109585700
aspirin/paracetamol
coffee, analog cigarette
meth
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>>109585700
install an ai like codex-cli
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>>109585700
Find what you're good at, and pass down those skills onto AI, and imagine it as your progeny or extension of yourself.
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>>109585845
They could have cubicles and be way better off
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>>109593798
How do aspirin and paracetamol help?
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>>109585700
by not being around tranny or a pedophile
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>>109585700
simple: @grok you are a good programmer. make no mistakes
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>>109585700
Get a job
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>>109585700
Learn FORTH. Love FORTH.
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>>109595776
make a forth, in fact.
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>>109585700
Do a bunch of small programs to train yourself and learn new shit in practice.
Small games that do shit like multithreading or deal with online or a logic simulator or well all of above.
It is imperative you do all this having fun.
Doing for "I NEED THIS TO MONEY" will lead you nowhere.
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you always have a system to fix. you gotta set all variables to neutral (whatever neutral means to you) and tweak each variable until you get to a desired state of the system. that's it, then you read freaking docs all day long, that's all you do
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>>109585700
Move to Philly. Buy a loft. Start a noise band. Get six or seven roommates. Eat some hummus with them. Book some gigs. Paint. Smoke cloves. Listen to Animal Collective. Start some type of salsa company.
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>>109585700
Give Peter Norwig's Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years a read. The guy shares some pretty solid advice on gitting gud over the long term.
https://www.norvig.com/21-days.html
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>>109585845
I hate Gen X so fucking much
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>>109586038
>i feel like i coulndnt help myself but chat with coworkers
this is literally what normies do. they complete maybe an hour of real work per day. the rest of the time is spent trying to waste as much time as possible. everyone from top to bottom does this. even the CEO. all of them.
if you sit down and are actually capable of generating 8 or 9 hours of actual quality work that is 10x as valuable as the work your coworkers are putting out, it is irrelevant and you will never be recognized for it. no one with the power to give you a promotion will ever even know you're doing well.



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