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https://cheat.sh
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Previous thread: >>109563427
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I installed UBANTO recently and everything has been working great, except when I power off the computer stays on and sends no signal to the monitor. The fans and everything is still running. I noticed it did send the poweroff signal, but it seems the motherboard refuses it.
I tried adding a few lines to grub that I found online but the issue remains.

I don't want any help I'm just sharing my frustration with the world. I be a colonel update at some point will fix it.
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They say ACO is supposed to be faster than LLVM, but I've had mixed results on an AMD iGPU.
Is there a way to debug each compiler and figure out the cause of performance regressions?
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>>109588159
>FXAA: On
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>>109588159
It sometimes happens on mint. AI told me it was related to drivers after I feed it with terminal data.
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Cheat Engine now has a native Linux version.
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i did force reboot after an update, it didn't go well
pacman throws a segfault when trying to do anything even from livecd.
what do?
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>>109589044
 root@archiso ~ # pacman --root /mnt -Sy linux                                                                                       18:19 [0/4]
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
warning: linux-7.1.8.arch1-3 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (1) linux-7.1.8.arch1-3

Total Installed Size: 147.72 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: 0.00 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
(1/1) checking keys in keyring [##] 100%
(1/1) checking package integrity [##] 100%
(1/1) loading package files [##] 100%
(1/1) checking for file conflicts [##] 100%
(1/1) checking available disk space [##] 100%
:: Running pre-transaction hooks...
(1/1) Remove upgraded DKMS modules
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) reinstalling linux [##] 100%
error: command terminated by signal 11: Segmentation fault
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/4) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
(2/4) Updating module dependencies...
(3/4) Install DKMS modules
==> dkms install --no-depmod xone/0.5.8 -k 7.1.8-arch1-3
stat: cannot statx '/proc/1/root': No such file or directory

Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 7.1.8-arch1-3 (x86_64)
Consult /var/lib/dkms/xone/0.5.8/build/make.log for more information.
==> WARNING: `dkms install --no-depmod xone/0.5.8 -k 7.1.8-arch1-3' exited 10
(4/4) Updating linux initcpios...
/usr/share/libalpm/scripts/mkinitcpio: line 74: /dev/fd/63: No such file or directory
error: command failed to execute correctly
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>>109588854
The malware too, presumably?
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>>109589139
For starters you should be doing this from inside arch-chroot rather than specifying the --root manually.
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>>109589180
Don't skip the ads then, chud :^)
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>>109589287
same result
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>>109589334
Why does /proc/1/root not exist? Within the chroot it should point to /.

Is this just an issue with your xone dkms module? Try uninstalling or disabling xone and then reinstalling the kernel again, if it works, boot into your system and solve the actual problem (xone).
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>>109589334
>>109589362
Some light is shed reading the comments on the AUR page. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xone-dkms

Uninstall xone-dkms, reinstall the kernel, figure out what's wrong with the xone module on kernel 7.1.X.
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>>109589362
>>109589382
same result. this is from chroot. i can boot into the system though. x11 is broken, but tty works.
[root@archiso /]# pacman -S linux
warning: linux-7.1.8.arch1-3 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (1) linux-7.1.8.arch1-3

Total Installed Size: 147.72 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: 0.00 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
(1/1) checking keys in keyring [] 100%
(1/1) checking package integrity [] 100%
(1/1) loading package files [] 100%
(1/1) checking for file conflicts [] 100%
(1/1) checking available disk space [] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) reinstalling linux [] 100%
error: command terminated by signal 11: Segmentation fault
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/3) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
(2/3) Updating module dependencies...
(3/3) Updating linux initcpios...
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux.preset: 'default'
==> Using default configuration file: '/etc/mkinitcpio.conf'
-> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux -g /boot/initramfs-linux.img
==> Starting build: '7.1.8-arch1-3'
-> Running build hook: [base]
-> Running build hook: [udev]
-> Running build hook: [autodetect]
-> Running build hook: [microcode]
-> Running build hook: [modconf]
-> Running build hook: [kms]
-> Running build hook: [keyboard]
-> Running build hook: [keymap]
-> Running build hook: [consolefont]
-> Running build hook: [block]
-> Running build hook: [filesystems]
-> Running build hook: [fsck]
==> Generating module dependencies
==> Creating zstd-compressed initcpio image: '/boot/initramfs-linux.img'
-> Early uncompressed CPIO image generation successful
==> Initcpio image generation successful
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>>109589458
I cannot work out why reinstalling linux causes a segmentation fault. Does it happen when you reinstall other packages as well?
Perhaps there's a more verbose output you can access somehow.
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>>109589497
happens every time im trying to install or remove a package. here's output of
 pacman --debug -S linux
prior to segfault. for some reason when i pipe it into a file it omits most of the messages.
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>>109589613
>for some reason when i pipe it into a file it omits most of the messages.
I still don't know why it's segfaulting, but I can help you with that. The debug messages are probably on stderr not stdout, pipes and the standard redirect (>) only redirect stdout by default. Do
pacman --debug -S linux 2>&1 > file.log
and it should work.
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>>109589638
Correction. That would work if piping to another program,
pacman --debug -S linux 2>&1 | less

To get it to output to a file correctly you need to flip the order,
pacman --debug -S linux > file.log 2>&1
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>>109589665
>>109589638
output of
 pacman --debug --noconfirm -S linux > pacman.log 2>&1


https://files.catbox.moe/ith4t8.log
sorry i don't know a better hosting
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>>109589736
Here's your problem,
debug: database path for tree core set to /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db
debug: "/var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db.sig" is not readable: No such file or directory
debug: sig path /var/lib/pacman/sync/core.db.sig could not be opened
debug: got error 43 at _alpm_gpgme_checksig (../lib/libalpm/signing.c: 565) : missing PGP signature


For whatever reason, your core repo db has no signature file, or its permissions are fucked.
Check
ls -l /var/lib/pacman/sync


I'm not sure what the fix is for this just yet.
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best dedicated server hosting site that's /g/ approved? I know this isn't wdg. But I wanna configure a Linux server for the web.
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>>109589795
what the hell is almp
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>>109589808
like a vps?
start with something cheap off lowendbox to learn and experiment on that's not your own hardware/net, then scale on an actual provider for heavier workloads.
personally I use and shill hostus because they had a black friday deal like 10 years ago they're still honoring. dinky little 1 gig ram box but the limits keep me honest and creative (learned and appreciate alpine thanks to this) and the actual value is just the dedicated IP I can point whatever bullshit at.
but that's just like my opinion man. ymmv
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>>109589821
alpm is the way Arch actually manages packages on the system. I don't know why you have an incomplete file owned by it in that directory. If you can figure out how to repopulate that directory everything will probably be fine.
Perhaps just deleting everything in there then doing a pacman -Syy will do it, but I have no idea. Wouldn't hurt to test if you just move them all somewhere else rather than deleting them.
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>>109589881
i checked the other machine running arch, it also doesn't have .sig files. i cleared the directory and ran pacman -Syy; pacman created new db files and still segfaulting.
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>>109589918
I checked my own output again, I actually get the same error for core.db. I checked earlier and the first db was fine, but it's a cachyos one, and those ones support signature verification apparently.
No idea why the Arch version of pacman has this feature if it's completely unused.
Sorry about the redherring, I believe that error can go completely ignored.

From your log I cannot determine the cause of the fault, so at this point you're best off asking in #archlinux on Libera, or perhaps you could try reinstalling pacman itself.

Interestingly it doesn't seem to really matter? It faults, but it seems like its job has been completed anyway, I'm not sure what your actual problem is? If it's just that x11 is broken, well, you're going to have to check why that is. Does it just not start, is there an error, and so on.
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>>109589992
a lot of stuff broken, not only x11. i did try to reinstall all the packages and pacman itself, it didn't do anything.
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>>109590006
Without a lot of trial and error I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps a reinstall is fastest at this point. In the future consider using btrfs snapshots so you can just rollback the system if it does something weird like this.

I'm sure it's fixable, but I'm not sure it's worth your time to fix.
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>>109590019
i was making backup for like an year and stopped doing them maybe a months ago, deleted everything too.
yeah, i can reinstall it, but i'd rather learn how to fix it.
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>>109590006
Did you try force reinstalling every package (not from the live system)?
 pacman -S $(pacman -Qqen) --force 
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>>109590181
i already said i did try to reinstall everything and there's no such option as "--force" for sync operation.
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>>109588159
just type "sudo /sbin/poweroff" in the terminal, works like a charm
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>>109590254
You've still not really explained what the problem is, other than the pacman segfault. When you say "stuff is broken", like, how? Does it error when you run it?
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hello, ive heared using the OS package manager is not good when the software wants to manage its own upgrades, any validity to those claims?

i am basically trying to install android studio and idk wether to install it from the aur vs just installing a tarball and letting it in /opt/
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>>109590305
Most of the time such software can be, or is already, set not to manage its own updates. If it truly insists (if it can't write, how is it going to?), the best way to let it do so would be to install it within your own user's home directory.
/opt might work, but many things installed to /opt end up being owned by root, so I can't imagine it'll be able to update itself there either.

I will say, if it exists in the AUR, I imagine it's just going to work and whatever problem you're assuming is not a problem or the package wouldn't exist?
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>>109590298
everything that doesn't work segfaults.
the catbox is output of
 journalctl -xb 

https://files.catbox.moe/vf31h0.log
apparently ldconfig.service doesn't start.
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>>109590473
i removed /etc/ld.so.cache. probably shouldn't have done it
running
ldconfig
produces
[1]    1084 segmentation fault  sudo ldconfig
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>>109590473
>>109590484
I can't help but remember that when you invoked pacman from the archiso, it also segfaulted >>109589139
This was from outside the chroot, so nothing about your system's packages could have caused it. Hardware failure? Does archiso pacman crash even installing package into the live environment, without mounting your system at all?
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>>109590517
no, it works in live envriroment. i also ran smart tests on the storage and file system check.
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>>109589044
>i did force reboot after an update
Why this? I think the guy above me is correct, you have hardware instability/failure. You shouldn't be doing that. I've only had to press the reset button once and it was a hardware failure. (my disk with /var on it bricked).
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>>109590535
/home was failing to umount. that boot i also cleared pacman cache by hand. i racked up a lot of uptime that time, i don't remember if i did anything else.
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>>109590484
strace ldconfig should show where it fails
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I don't want to be that guy that says Arch just works on my machine (because it does), but damn if I was the anon above, I would have no idea how to fix my shit
I'm almost close to 4 months of using Arch (and 1 year of using Linux) so I hope it continues to be stable for me.
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>>109590656
It's probably a reinstall angle, I think there's some fucked up corrupted shit going on. File corruption.
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>>109590656
I've been using Arch since 2009 and never had a problem like that. But if it's some corrupted cache or whatever then it can happen on any distro that you forcibly shut down
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>>109590656
Whatever his problem is, you're never experiencing it.
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>>109590628
the output of
strace ldconfig
. honestly, i don't know what i am looking at.
https://files.catbox.moe/iett13.log
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>>109590746
Can you send the coredump as well please
Also just try running fsck
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>>109589458
If you're getting random segmentation faults in a live CD then either you need to re-write the live CD and try again, or sorry to tell you this, you're hardware is fucked and dying.
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>>109590746
And your system is completely updated? Maybe you're in a partially updated state. Do pacman -Syu to be sure
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>>109590855
It could be just RAM seating though. I have a stick of ram slot that is faulty on my t440p, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Try

>Reseating the RAM
>Running with only one stick of RAM

Also you should run memtest.
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>>109590871
>>109590855
Although, it could just be that the chroot is really fucked too for some reason.

Maybe try something like:
mkdir -pv /mnt/mnt/arch
pacstrap /mnt/mnt/arch base


See if that works. If you can make a minimal base / rootfs like that then it's just your install that is beyond broken and you should probably consider re-installing unless you're really determined to save this install in which case look into paccheck from pacutils

>if checking this did not help, then make sure the base components of the new environment are intact (if it is an Arch root, try paccheck --root=/path/to/new/root --files --file-properties --md5sum glibc filesystem, from pacutils)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Chroot#Using_chroot
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>>109590830
https://files.catbox.moe/tww4h9.coredump
i have no expirience with debugging. i used gdb for this. hope it works.
sudo gdb ldconfig
GNU gdb (GDB) 17.2
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License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gp
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "x86_64-pc-linux-gnu".
Type "show configuration" for configuration details.
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
<https://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>.
Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at:
<http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/>.

For help, type "help".
Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"...
Reading symbols from ldconfig...
(No debugging symbols found in ldconfig)
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/ldconfig

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x00007ffff7ed35e8 in ?? ()
(gdb) generate-core-file /home/user/ldconfig.coredump
warning: Memory read failed for corefile section, 4096 bytes at 0xff
Saved corefile /home/user/ldconfig.coredump
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>>109590983
Run paccheck from outside the chroot if you're really desperate to save this install. Otherwise re-install.

>>109590923
https://man.archlinux.org/man/paccheck.1.en
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can someone tell me how i can make mint look like this video without giving a dime to this pajeet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz7eIHgusFc
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>>109590830
fsck comes out clean
>>109590923
pacstrap outside roofs worked without issues.
>>109591000
im gonna try this
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>>109590983
fsck + full package verification (pacman -Qkk) is required. Also do this >>109590871

>>109591089
Did you do the fsck from the latest arch iso
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>>109591094
>Did you do the fsck from the latest arch iso
yes
>full package verification (pacman -Qkk) is required
shitton of packages have size and checksum missmatch as well as UID and GID mismatch for some.
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>>109591078
mainly i just want the icons in the middle and the widgets.
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1.68 MB WEBM
how do I make the gtk file picker just open the highlighted file when I hit enter instead of having to tab select open to hit enter to open it?
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memtester says everything ok
i don't know, im giving up
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>>109591335
Reinstall arch, I looked at your coredump, reinstalling arch should fix your issue.
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>>109591379
where in coredump does it say that
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>>109591408
You say you don't have any prior experience with debugging. Are you sure you want the answer?
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>>109591431
sure
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>>109591000
i give up
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>>109591446
A library file in /usr/lib32 got corrupted, almost certainly damage from when you force rebooted.

The coredump's version fragments (...ient.so6, 10.57.04) point at the 32-bit nvidia driver in /usr/lib32 as the corrupted file; the package is lib32-nvidia-utils. If pacman -Qkk lists it, reinstall just that package first and the cascade stops. Also why are you doing multilib? Oh right, steam I guess. That figures. You should not be on arch. You need Ubuntu.
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>>109591240
Tip: do not use the GTK file picker
See Cirno's Guide on changing your file picker:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/109497250/#109497607
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>>109591781
not him but this doesn't work on xfce last i tried because it doesn't have its own portal(?)
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>>109591781
The answer for the file picker problem in 2026 is unironically just to use Plasma. It's actually good now, and has a filepicker that works!
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>>109594391
And they FINALLY fixed the thumbnail loading bug
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>>109591781
i know how to do it but i havent found a better alternative
kde's file chooser is worse, and every other one is a cheaper clone of either gtk or kde/qt file chooser (except maybe cosmic which is its own thing)
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>>109594460
There is also pikeru.
https://github.com/dvhar/pikeru
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>>109591829
There is no xdg-desktop-portal-xfce, but you can use other portals on any DE, see https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xdg-desktop-portal for a list of portals you can use.
Also xdg-desktop-portal support has to do with the application rather than the DE (generally browsers and sandboxed applications will have it, but some things like GIMP or LibreOffice implement their own file picker so they don't use portals).
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>>109585606
Back up your $HOME and whatever custom you did under /etc and maybe compile a list of installed packages if you can't do it from memory, that's it. But that's what you do regardless the distribution, right?
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Going to use f2fs, wish me luck.
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>>109595026
I've used it before. It works fine.
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>>109595026
>>109595041
Using it now like a retard.
$ df -hT /
Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/root f2fs 100G 28G 73G 28% /

Basically had a pick between EXT4 and F2FS, saw no reason not to use something more "efficient" or whatever. My rootfs just hosts the Linux system, nothing else and I see no reason to "protect" the installation in any way, Linux installs are so easy to recreate case something catastrophic happens.
(like who cares about snapshots and shit?)
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>>109595287
I'm too poor for backups, so if it corrupts i might lose some files.
It's hard to find proper info about f2fs, but it seems to have better data checksumming, it has less write amplification and since recent patches better performance than ext4.
I never needed to use a snapshots for many years now, i don't see the need for it.
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did i just get hacked by space aliens? is this what their home galaxy looks like?
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>>109595386
>he installed a python package
pwnd
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>>109595395
lmao this
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>>109595386
Looks like the art SSH generates for keyprint fingerprints.
https://superuser.com/questions/22535/what-is-randomart-produced-by-ssh-keygen
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>>109597456
huh, wonder why it's not on by default for the client. seems useful.
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windows phone 8 is better
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>>109597561
Probably because it will fuck up scripts and it warns you if the fingerprint is different anyway.
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>>109595395
i thought the virus stuff was about pip and not 1000 times folded debian oldstable packages
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if you are mad about the new kernel boot requirement you are a fucking poor loser who never buys new hardware fuck you fuck your 486 literally fucking kill yourself you fucking WORTHLESS fucking poorfag
>>
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>>109598344
>>109598468
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>>109598468
UPGRADE YOUR PC YOU FUCKING POORFAG WHY THE FUCK DO YOU EVEN WANT TO RUN OUTDATED ASS HARDWARE FROM OVER 30 YEARS AGO?
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Toggling DPMS off here or enabling XScreensaver in Debian 13 kills the X session on older ThinkPad X60 but it doesn't happen in Debian 12. Is it time to retire ThinkPads from the mid 2000s?
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It truly boggles my mind how the faggot bottles' devs decided to adopt an obscure ass packaging format like "CPAK" instead of just using appimage.
It just goes to show that their choices are 100% ideologically driven rather than technically driven, but what can you expect from GNOME devs.
Also no, I won't use Flatpak.
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>>109598718
What even is the use case for bottles in 2026 with modern Lutris, or even just umu?
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>>109598658
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_fallacy
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>>109598737
Lutris is ass.
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>>109598751
Ok.
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On Windows there's a window manager called Jwno which lets you control all the buttona in almost every window with the keyboard.
Basically like the browser extension vimium, but for the whole OS.

Is there something like this for Linux?
I already use i3, but I still need to reach for the mouse when I need to deal with some gtk/qt shit that doesn't have hotkeys configured.
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>>109598718
CPAK is his own new packaging format, of course he's going to use it for Bottles
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>>109598792
Also you have to accept a shady CLA to use it.
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>>109598718
>but what can you expect from GNOME devs
One day they'll be in prison where they belong.
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>>109598737
Lutris fucking sucks. It's unintuitive and convoluted for no reason. It's so bad that I stayed on PlayOnLinux until Bottles got popular enough for me to switch. Bottles is the closest thing you have to "double click an .exe and have it run like it's Windows". Lutris has a billion unnecessary steps when you want to install or run an arbitrary Windows executable.

The only value Lutris ever had was back when installing shit like League of Legends was a pain in the ass and the Lutris community provided install scripts. Modern WINE and Proton isn't as shit as WINE 1.x-6.x were. Nowadays almost anything you want to run will run. There's no more need for Lutris to exist because install scripts have been replaced with people actually fixing WINE itself.
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1. n00b friendly and werks out of the box?
>POP!_OS
2. Intermediate to expert Linux skills, hates systemd?
>Void
3. Expert level who loves tinkering?
Gentoo
That is all you need
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So can I ACTUALLY migrate off windows if I have a 1070 TI and like to play videogames or is the support for nvidia so bad that it's actually not feasible and everyone is hyping up something that's non-workable outside of hobbyist projects
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>>109599013
>1. n00b friendly and werks out of the box?
bazzite.
>2. Intermediate to expert Linux skills, hates systemd?
hating systemd is a meme. the option here is aurora.
>3. Expert level who loves tinkering?
creating your own fedora atomic distro.
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>>109599059
Pascal and older nvidia gens are in a limbo right now, basically abandonware.
You can play games on Linux because the 580 drivers support vulkan, but NVIDIA already said that would be the last driver release for Pascal and older GPUs.
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>>109599059
Nigga I have a 1050ti Acer Nitro that runs Fedora and steam just fine. You're not going to be playing. GTA6 in it, but older games work fine.
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>>109599059
>invest in blob drivers
>turns out they're shit
WHO COULD'VE FORESEEN THIS
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Just got my Steam Machine set up, how do you do fellow linux chads.
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I was going to update @world but emerge whined that it cannot index one package that's in my world file and I checked the xarblu overlay and it should be there. I guess I'm not updating today then I don't know what the fuck is wrong with emerge. Maybe some network error syncing or whatever.
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>>109599059
It's certainly viable, but only if you're willing to eat a 20% performance hit and are ready to get fiddly with the drivers and display server config when they suddenly stop working after an update.

Back in the 00's I deliberately bought nVidia cards because their support was miles better than ATi's.
Now that Ayy Em Dee bought up ATi and is putting out very good open source Linux drivers, and Intel has always been good with Linux drivers for their on-board graphic, it's just that Nvidia looks bad in comparison because they've only marginally improved their loonix support.

Even now I'm still on a GTX 1650 because it was the best card that fit my machine's thermals and power supply at the time.
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>>109599070
>bazzite
bad choice if you want to do anything other than gayming with your machine
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>>109599215
absolutely untrue since I use it on everything
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>>109599215
I spent a month t wting every distro I could think of. Pop came out on top for gaming. I don't know why chuds refuse to accept it
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>linux, specifically KDE plasma, can't copy and paste files from within the default file picker from within a program like firefox, chrome, discord etc

LMFAO
Every day I find some new way linux cucks you.
Basic features that windows had 20 years ago are apparently too difficult for loonix programmers kek

>inb4 "it's made this way for a reason" cope
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>>109598974
The purpose of Lutris isn't the ease of getting shit to run, because you're right, shit just works now. umu-run game.exe will just work almost every time.
The purpose is to organize applications (games really) and isolate prefixes easily without remembering 200 different WINEPREFIX= locations.
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>>109599327
Well it is called a file PICKER, not a file manager.
I will say that while I can see why you might do this, I have never once found myself reaching for this and finding it missing. I just double click the file I want to upload to my chinese basket weaving forum and that's it.
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at this point i always keep dolphin open out of convenience and just drag files onto the browser window. it's just convenient. i think gnome had the right idea by merging nautilus and the file picker.
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>>109599327
>discord
Based KDE Plasma protecting my PC from trooncord.
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>>109599327
At first I thought you meant the file manager, but who the fuck moves files from a file picker into a program? What the fuck do you think a file picker is there for? It's for you to select files which you want to pick, not move them into the window manually.
I wasn't even aware that Windows supported this backwards ass behavior holy shit. Actually, I don't even believe you since I remember the Windows file picker always forcing focus and beeping at me if I want to click the window that opened it, so I'm not even sure how you'd drag a file back into a window which cannot be focused.
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>>109598737
I use umu + my own wrapper script
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>>109598737
these days i think faugus is actually the best. it stays the fuck out of your way.
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>>109598468
his ass is NOT sysadmining
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>>109599393
>Well it is called a file PICKER, not a file manager.
see, there's the cope
There's no reason I should be prevented from doing minor tasks like copying something to another folder or renaming something in the same window I use to pick a file.

>>109599596
>but who the fuck moves files from a file picker into a program?
You've never selected "choose file" and the window pops up with all your files?
You drag and drop every single time?
>not move them into the window manually.
that's not what I'm talking about at all, you are confused
I just wanted to copy a file and paste it into another folder while I am am using the file picker window in chrome
it won't let you do something so fucking basic
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>>109599327
>>109599693
use case for copying/moving files within a file picker?
I'm genuinely asking as I tried right now on my Windows computer
The only use case I can think of is renaming a file that has a generic 4chan image filename like 1722361414579686.jpg to something like asuka_feet.jpg.
Other than that, is it that hard for you to just Alt+Tab to Dolphin and copy and paste files there?
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>>109599756
so true, back on windows I only ever moved/renamed files inside a file picker by mistake.
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>>109599484
>admitting out loud you have no friends
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>>109599941
>her only friends are on discord
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>>109599756
>ermmmm use case?
literally every time someone pulls this line out it's because they're actively refusing to imagine a situation where xyz feature would be useful
>ah shit that file i just downloaded to upload somewhere else got saved to the wrong spot
>let me put all these files in the same folder real quick so I can zip it up and send the whole thing at once
etc etc etc. use your head
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The file picker doesn't even have spacebar heating
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>>109599756
>use case for copying/moving files within a file picker?
convenience?
What if I go to upload a file and then realize I need to do a quick move or copy of a file. Should I instead go to my actual file explorer, go find the folder, perform the action, close file explorer then go back to my browser?
Why do that extra work?

This is the 50th annoying thing I found in linux, shit that just works in windows is absent under linux.
I also love how having a second monitor with smaller resolution fucks with the scaling of like 3 of my programs and makes the cursor look tiny.
Wow lol

also I can't hover over a file to quickly view information about it like I can in windows. Like fucking why?
Why is linux like a mac where you can't change anything?

>is it that hard for you
Why should I accept less from linux when windows just works for things like this?
Do you know how many compromises I've made switching to linux? A lot!
But I am still here, for now...
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>>109600232
how about right click, "open with file manager"?
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>>109599596
I used that to get around being unable to elevate explorer.exe back in the day. Instead, I opened notepad.exe as admin and used its file picker to work inside directories my user couldn't access.

>>109598468
Why does this kid look so old, just look at his face, you can almost see the 45yo man talking about his fishing trip
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>>109600250
because it's more work to do? more clutter?
Why can't I just copy and paste within the file picker?
What if I want to ctrl-c within the file picker and ctrl-v within dolphin, like I can do on windows?
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>>109600277
it just seems to me you're a little lazy and don't want to open up your file manager to zip up a bunch of files. There should not be any clutter unless you have like 10 programs open.
You likely navigate your computer entirely through your mouse. I don't use autistic WMs but for me its not hard to navigate KDE Plasma with just a keyboard. I didn't think opening up your file manager to zip up files was so hard as you'd rather do that within a file picker. Of all the things to dog on Linux for, this one ain't it chief, and I don't think that's a cope. That's like saying Plasma is cucked because it doesn't have that window tiler menu that pops ups on the top in Windows 11. Even then, I think that exists as a Plasma extension.
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>>109600277
it's not as much work as you said it was before:
>go to my actual file explorer, go find the folder
but if you're not satisfied with that, I guess you can write a replacement file picker and add features you think are missing.
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>>109600277
choose a different file picker or write/patch your own one
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>>109598468
Hey man please don't leak screenshots of the next version of GNOME
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>>109598761
Yes, there are a couple of projects that do exactly this, though Linux's accessibility story makes them less polished than Jwno.

**Hints** (by Alfredo Sequeida) is the closest match. It's an open-source Python tool built specifically as "Vimium for the Linux desktop." It uses AT-SPI, the GNOME accessibility framework, to query interactive elements in different applications and overlay keyboard hints on them. It supports single/multi-click, right-click, drag (with some Wayland compositor limitations), hover, and vim-style scrolling with hjkl, and runs as a daemon called hintsd. It's on GitHub and reasonably active/popular.

**vimium-everywhere** is another option — an OS-wide keyboard navigation tool for Linux and Windows, distributed as an AutoHotkey script. Pressing F shows keyboard-activatable hints for all interactive elements in the current window. The catch: it's limited to native applications that properly expose an accessibility tree, since AT-SPI doesn't expose powerful enough functions for fast, reliable access, so it has to do deep recursive traversal. You also have to explicitly enable accessibility (e.g. `GNOME_ACCESSIBILITY=1`) and sometimes pass extra flags to individual apps (Chrome needs `--force-renderer-accessibility`, for example) to get them to expose their UI properly.

If an app just doesn't expose accessibility info at all, your fallback is a grid/spatial approach rather than true element hinting:
- **warpd** – keyboard-driven cursor warping with a Vimium-style hint grid overlaid on the screen (labels are spatial, not tied to actual widgets), plus normal/hint/grid modes. Works on X11 and Wayland.
- **keynav** older but still works; recursively bisects the screen with keystrokes until your cursor lands where you want, then clicks. Very i3-friendly since it's just a background daemon you bind a key to.

I'd try **Hints** first, and keep **warpd** around as a fallback for apps that don't cooperate with AT-SPI.
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>>109599756
>The only use case I can think of is renaming a file
It actually lets you do that, right click a file and there's a rename option.
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>>109600440
thanks, clanker
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>>109600313
>it just seems to me you're a little lazy
linux fags are fucking embarrassing and completely lack self awareness

>WHY AREN'T PEOPLE USING OUR OS DESPITE MICROSOFT LITERALLY SHITTING IN OUR FACE
Gee I wonder why?
>>109600384
>write your own one
Whoa!!!
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>>109600538
>WHY AREN'T PEOPLE USING OUR OS
literally nobody here is saying that tho?
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>>109600538
who are you quoting? I'm personally glad you're turned off from using Linux if you're gonna get this filtered because of your weird edge case. I also found out I can rename files in the the file picker on Plasma, so that really covers my use case for using the file picker to alter files. Good day.
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>>109600232
>why can't I hover over a file to quickly view information when windows just works for things like this?
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>>109600638
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>>109600638
NTA but is there any way to display size in MB instead of (or alongside) number of items? That's always kinda bugged me personally
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any music people here that use Beets? I've been running beets-flask for a couple of months and it's alright; It'll watch a directory and automatically import your shit
I wish the web interface was better though it can be really slow at times and i don't have the skillz to make a better project
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>>109600538
>Whoa
that's literally how Linux came into existence.

If you can't write it yourself, pay someone to do it for you.

>WHY AREN'T PEOPLE USING OUR OS
You think anyone here gives a shit what OS you use?
It's not like you're a paying customer.
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>>109600232
Your windows habits don't apply to linux. You forget that linux isn't windows. You're like an old man yelling at the cash register. You want this feature in the file picker, go throw cash at the kde devs. That's the only way you're going to get anything done as Valve has found out.
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>>109600798
I don't think it's available iirc there was a longtime bug about it, also read this:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/4160787/windows-10-file-explorer-unit-confusion
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>>109586425
Google creates another bureaucratic wall for themselves in law. Big orange retard has required porn to have a login, however the safety of user data is only safe with Google(tm). Yes big orange retard did that and Google made the world worse again by making themselves a middle man in the pirn industry.

DOWNLOAD ALL YOUR FAVORITE PORN FILES. They will be gone in a few years and they will also be pay per view. But you will be paying Google, not the porn creators. Thank you Indians in Google.
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>>109600798
Hmm didn't notice that
I usually just look at the bottom left when I'm hovering over a folder
I only set file previews to show anon that he can indeed view previews on Dolphin
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>switch to Linux
>FFW 1 month
>Japanese IME is a mess to use
>Get loaded up into tty1 unless I go into the settings on the startup menu and select a different option
Oh boy. This has been a really informational, fucking painful, ride. I'm probably just getting filtered and the process of natural selection is taking place but this thing has been very inconveniencing in ways that it shouldn't. It's such a fucking amazing, annoying, awesome, rage-inducing thing to use.
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>>109601601
What IME are you using?
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>>109601670
IBus
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>>109599693
>You've never selected "choose file" and the window pops up with all your files?
I have.
>You drag and drop every single time?
No, although I do most of the time.
>I just wanted to copy a file and paste it into another folder while I am am using the file picker window in chrome
I understand now, but that still sounds retarded. A file picker should never be confused to be a file manager or used as such. No other OS lets you do this. Windows is just poorly thought out.

>>109600232
Yes, you should go to the file manager to MANAGE files. A file picker window is not a file manager.
>extra work
You can right click in your file picker and choose "Open in file manager" or "Open containing folder" for this exact purpose. If you're the type of a person to need to manage files, you should primarily use the file manager and drag-drop from it rather than relying on file pickers.
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>setup Fvwm2 because it's cool and le retro
>after a few weeks realize that it adds a strange input lag to games like CS2 for example..
>switch back to Bspwm (which is also cool, no issues in this regard)
>feels way snappier outside of gaming too
I thought there was something going on but wasn't really sure about this at first.
Obviously I'm using these flags for games, shouldn't be the decorations either.
>SkipMapping, NoHandles, !Title, !Borders, PositionPlacement center, !MWMFunctions, NoDecorHints
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>wait like three MONTHS after fedora 44 KrashDE comes out
>update
>desktop is now spazzing out and I need to `systemctl --user restart plasma-plasmashell.service` once in a while to get it working again because of some bug regression in plasma-desktop-6.7.4
wow the wait sure was worth it
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if i want to dual boot windows and arch linux and keep secure boot enabled without setting up secure boot on arch
can i just disable secure boot if i want to boot into arch, then enable it to boot into windows
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I dualboot windows with debian. Need to clean reinstall windows. That means I need to reinstall debian as well from what I understand. What is the easiest way to go back on what I have installed and configured in debian? I have timeshift snapshots, is it simple as install debian again and then restore from snapshots?
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>>109602146
idk but don't dual boot on the same ssd, windows WILL fuck things up sooner or later
at least backup grub if 2poor4storage
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so is mainstreamOS any good? i don't like gnome.
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You guys have been hiding this shit from me!?
Being able to stream music through a browser on a MPD server would be a fucking game changer! And it turns out this shit has been supported since forever!
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>>109589665
why not use tee?
pacman --debug -S linux 2>&1 | tee file.log
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>>109598718
https://github.com/ivan-hc/Bottles-appimage
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what the shit, since when does Xpdf use qt for ui?? what's the last version that you can build with lesstif?
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>>109602345
? Why didn't you know about this? Linux has been used heavily for servers after all.
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>>109599059
You will lose 10 fps maybe, otherwise not many issues and in few years open source driver is probably going to fix all that.
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>>109599276
That just not true, PikaOS bests pop.
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>>109599059
>So can I ACTUALLY migrate off windows if I have a 1070 TI and like to play videogames or is the support for nvidia so bad that it's actually not feasible
I have rtx 4070 and I've switched to fedora kde a year or so ago. There are three things I've run into that weren't an issue on winblows:
1. there is no MSI afterburner equivalent on Wayland, so you can't do the usual "undervolt + overclock" combo that drops temps by ~10C for like 2% performance loss. You can power limit which is usually good enough, but you can't OC memory which would ordinarily regain the majority of lost performance
2. you can't pass *some* of the GPU resources to a VM, it's an all or nothing situation
3. when a new driver drops, the harness tends to lag by a day or two so it's possible that you update the driver and all third party stuff won't lauch until you update the harness as well (ie steam works, but heroic launcher won't)

The only real issue is 1, most people have no use for VMs and 3 is only an issue if you don't know it's a thing - I just pin the driver version to not update since I don't need to do it more than like twice a year. All in all I'm like 90% linux, 10% winblows usage at this point as I kept win10 installed.
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>>109602346
You could.
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noone asked but for commands that redirect stdout and stderr to the same thing like this, i find it's good to use stdbuf like
>stdbuf -oL -eL pacman blahblah 2>&1 | tee file.log
to make sure the lines come out in the order they were written
the reason for this is that stdout defaults to full buffering when the output isn't a terminal, which can cause lines written to it to become delayed relative to stderr (which is unbuffered and immediately written), and stdbuf lets you override that default
i hoped to have a runnable example here but i couldn't get a simple enough one to work, anyway it works for programs written in C and other languages that use the C file objects for output
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I don't understand how people dealt with weird ass issues before AI sloppa was a thing, like audacity not connecting to pipewire / pulse so trying to record desktop audio with loopback returns -9997 error. Like fuck I'd spend hours researching obscure terminal commands and trying to figure out if this fifth guide about this problem is applicable to my problem in particular and if the obscure terminal output from this obscure terminal command looks as it should or not.
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>>109603104
50% of the time AI tells me this is the solution to the issue and makes everything worse or breaks something else. At least a human guide didn't do that.
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>>109603115
Not my experience. Even then, making a snapshot before attempting a fix and if shit breaks restoring from it takes like 3 minutes.
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>>109603104
You would spend hours searching the internet for solutions. Random forums, stackoverflow clones, youtube videos, and 4chan and reddit.

>>109603115
This hasn't been my experience at all. Maybe you just suck at prompting.
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>>109603115
depends a lot on the size of the model (or whether you pay for it)
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>>109601716
I've never been able to get ibus to work reliably. Made much better experiences with fcitx, but even that has given me headaches.

Nowadays I just write anything Japanese in Emacs (I always have it open somewhere anyway) and copy it into the window where it belongs. You can even use different backends for Emacs' IME system, like mozc (the open source version of Google's Japanese input)
https://packages.debian.org/forky/emacs-mozc
Obviously not a good solution if you need input in video games etc
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>>109603104
1. try and see if the documentation mentions it and I can make sense of it

2. Failing that, use a search engine to see if someone online had the same problem (remember, search engines used to be actually useful 20 years ago)

3. Failing that, see if I can figure it out from the source code

4. failing that, use something else (spent ten years keeping fucking pulseaudio off my machine because it was so unreliable compared to plain ALSA)
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>still no hdr in browser
>still no good de hdr implementation
>still massive wayland latency
>still no safe and efficient way of updating the system
when will linux be as good as windows 11
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>>109603360
>still no hdr in browser
>still no good de hdr implementation
>still massive wayland latency
None of these issues exist on KDE Plasma.
>still no safe and efficient way of updating the system
Fedora Atomic.
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>>109603399
>None of these issues exist on KDE Plasma.
I'm on plasma too you baboon and you are lying
and no, using a chromium based browser is not acceptable
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>>109603423
Bad hardware
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>>109603436
>buying a 5090 will make firefox not shit o algo
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>>109603449
>nvidia
>linux
pick one
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>>109603467
denounce vishnu
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>>109603423
>using a chromium based browser is not acceptable
So you're admitting your software (browser) is shit? HDR works fine in Brave. It works fine on my AMD and Intel GPUs.

Latency is a debunked issue. The difference in x11 vs wayland latency was recently benchmarked and it's measured in fractions of a millisecond (less than 0.2ms).
>https://marco-nett.de/blog/measuring-input-latency-on-linux-x11-vs-wayland-vrr-dxvk/
Even the slowest possible option, that being xwayland, only has 4ms of latency compared to the fastest x11 and wayland rendering options. So you'd need to have a 250Hz monitor to consistently see any difference, assuming you can see the difference at all.
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>>109603467
So Linux only works well on 5% of PCs?
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>>109603503
>source
>gaming platforms
Intel is the leading GPU vendor. Yes, integrated graphics are still GPUs.
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>>109603501
>Brave
NSA's strongest soldier
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>>109603552
(and by this I mean, Intel is on like 70% of PCs and laptops and nVidia is on 10%-15%. So Linux only works well on 90% of PCs)
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Any anons use RTX 5070 on Linux here? How is it?
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>>109603503
Why do you care what others are using? Just fix your PC and stop whining
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anyone here runs arch with gnome?
how is the experience?
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>>109603711
I used it for a while last year and everything worked. I switched back to KDE though
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>>109603711
>gnome
please use a serious DE anon
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This and /fwt/ are the most worthless generals on this board.
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>>109603501
>wayland latency test
>author goes out of his way to disable the biggest source of latency (vsync) and tests with an insane refresh rate that would eliminate most of it anyway
and the test is only for the specific use case of full screen gaming
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>"for now"
>2014 was 12 years ago
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>>109603824
Because everyone already knows Wayland compositors with mailbox V-sync obliterates X compositors.
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How many old kernels do you keep? I have to use a separate /boot partition. It seems like a waste to clear them all out unless there's not enough space for the latest one.

It's not like you can really make much use of that space if it's on a separate partition anyway. I know you can put a few extra utilities on there like memtest and space invaders.
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>>109604116
so when will wayland be out of beta?
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>>109604255
Idk I've been using it without problems for like 7 years at this point. Maybe get a real GPU and try again.
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>>109604163
I keep one old, there's linux.efi and linux-old.efi with their corresponding boot entries.
>compile new kernel
>install modules
>replace /efi/linux-old.efi with /efi/linux.efi
>copy arch/x86/boot/bzImage to /efi/linux.efi
Yeah I know, absolute niggerest way of updating a kernel but hey, the process is distro agnostic and no extra software or scripts needed.
t. EFI stub booter
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>>109600638
Obviously Im not talking about the completely useless bloatware file preview sidebar, retard

>>109600587
>>109600565
>>109601007
why do linux users hate when new people try to use linux?
why do they intentionally make it as non user friendly as possible just to seem more smug than everyone else

there's a reason why everyone uses windows, a very good reason

>>109601008
>You forget that linux isn't windows.
Yes, windows is BETTER in those ways.
> go throw cash at the kde devs
They've had 30 years to make a decent product, and they've failed.
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>>109602031
>you should be banned from using basic features because you just should okay??!?

>A file picker window is not a file manager.
Yet they let you rename files, how curious....


>You can right click in your file picker and choose "Open in file manager" or "Open containing folder" for this exact purpose.
sooooo extra work?
I accept your concession

>you should primarily use the file manager and drag-drop from it rather than relying on file pickers.
I do, you moron. But there are times when it's much easier to do it from the file picker. ie. when I'm literally right there in the file picker and discover a quick change I need to make
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>>109602146
Yes, but why would you not just set up secure boot on Arch? It takes literally 2 minutes as long as you don't have a retarded motherboard.
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>>109603360
also wayland on dual monitors breaks everything and fucks up the scaling

>>109603399
>None of these issues exist on KDE Plasma.
they literally do
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>>109603360
>still massive wayland latency
This is simply not true.
There IS latency using X applications through XWayland under Wayland, but Wayland native applications do not have an inherent need for latency.
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>>109603360
>still no safe and efficient way of updating the system
What is safe? This seems arbitrary. I would consider my setup safe, but maybe you wouldn't? Windows seems quite unsafe, did you not see people get permanently locked out of their systems from windows update frying their bitlocker keys earlier this year?
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can we debate tabs versus spaces next
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>>109604344
>also wayland on dual monitors breaks everything and fucks up the scaling
X literally cannot handle dual monitors with differing refresh rates. Dual monitors is not the thing to complain about with Wayland, when comparing it to X at least.
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>>109604374
It's always spaces. Different editors treat tabs as 8 spaces, 4 spaces, maybe 10 spaces so it messes up everything. Spaces are consistent across all editors.
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>>109604374
Tabs are better, and have always been better, but lost the war.
Tabs allow the user to set their preferred spacing within their own editors/readers that suit their preference but don't fuck up other people's formatting like spaces do.
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>>109604163
Depends on how frequently you update. A 3 week backlog is probably pretty safe for me. If it takes you that long to notice a problem, it likely isn't that disruptive.
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>>109603824
Well the point is to test real latency, not latency introduced by vsync. vsync will always increase your latency, no matter if you're on x11 or wayland.

>>109604255
It was effectively out of beta since 2020.

>>109604344
>they literally do
I'm using Plasma on multiple computers and have none of those issues. It's all either made up bullshit, or another Debian user who is using packages built over half a decade ago.
>wayland on dual monitors breaks everything and fucks up the scaling
It doesn't. It's x11 that has broken multi-monitor support. Actually, multi-monitor support on x11 effectively doesn't exist since it joins all monitors into a single virtual monitor with a static refresh rate, scaling and no hdr. Good luck using a 144Hz and a 60Hz monitor on x11, or having only one of your monitors have hdr support, or having monitors with different scaling.

>>109604374
I find tabs annoying to use, but they're objectively better.

>>109604394
>lost the war.
Depends on the formatter you use and the project. Some projects have config files which set your formatter to use tabs.
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>>109604389
>Different editors treat tabs as 8 spaces, 4 spaces, maybe 10 spaces
That's exactly the point. As long as it's configurable by the user.
I would argue the default setting should be 4 though. 8 is technically an old standard, but it's ugly as sin.
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>>109604163
I don't keep old kernels at all. I keep the lts kernel installed as an emergency should the new stable kernel break. I've never needed it, but it's there.
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>>109604389
does this ever happen to experienced space users
>edit some code
>later realize the new part you added is actually indented by 3 spaces, not 4
my problem is that you can navigate inside an indent by clicking or using the arrow keys and only realize it later
with tabs, you have a larger area you can click to put the cursor before an indented statement and not between indents
i am using an editor that has a space option so surely it's space user certified to work the way a space user would expect
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>>109603360
>still no hdr in browser
Works on my machine
>still no good de hdr implementation
Works on my machine
>still massive wayland latency
Works on my machine
>still no safe and efficient way of updating the system
Works on my machine
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>>109604163
I don't keep old kernels. I have the normal Arch kernel and the LTS kernel installed, that's enough.
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>>109597567
where's the fat throbbing bulge in xer pants
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>>109604371
I was obviously baiting with windows but like only aeryn os is somewhat satisfying in that regard, no big serious distro
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>>109604312
>why do linux users hate when new people try to use linux?
I don't hate it, I just don't care.

If everyone like you would make it a habit to donate $1 per month to bug bounties or some project that tries to make Linux easier to use, like Linux Mint for example, it would be a different matter.

But why should I care if someone who is not going to be contributing anything to open source software in any way starts using Linux?
What do I get out of that?

The only positive thing I can think of would be improved hardware support due to manufacturers caring more about the Linux desktop market.
But there are also downsides when shitty people get into this space, as corporations will increasingly cater to your sensibilities and turn Linux systems into the same locked-down goycattle pens I tried to get away from, see e.g. DRM integration or the anti-cheat malware that that you willingly install on your machines, or SteamOS which requires a Steam account to even use.
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>>109604808
>no big serious distro
Fedora (Kinoite/Silverblue) and SteamOS both have atomic updates just like Android and macOS.
Fedora and openSUSE have transactional updates just like Windows.
All "big serious" distros.
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>>109604163
The old kernels are in my snapshots
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Is 4 GB of ram enough nowadays without swap?
Will KDe and firefox play well?
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>>109604374
Tabs for indentation, spaces for alignment. It's that simple.
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>>109605289
No, set up ZRAM or ZSWAP.
>>109605287
Stupid question maybe but how do kernels relate to userland snapshots?
t. >>109604295
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>>109605289
Barely. I'm at 3.5 GB with 2 4chan tabs and one youtube tab. If you really don't want swap on disk you could set up zram swap
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>>109605289
>without swap
If you have to ask you always need swap in some form. Not having swap is only beneficial in very certain workloads and if you don't know what they are you need swap
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>>109605289
Depends on how many tabs you have open. As soon as you go into double digits you're probably going oom.
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>>109605312
>Stupid question maybe but how do kernels relate to userland snapshots?
I suppose something will break if you boot an old snapshot with a different kernel like dkms modules, etc.
My /boot is on the btrfs root volume and only the bootloader is on the efi partition so I don't have to worry about that
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Do I really have to update and restart cachyOS twice a day?

Sheesh
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>>109604312
>there's a reason why everyone uses windows, a very good reason
Because it's designed for retarded faggots like you who usually get filtered by anything outside the goycattle-level toys.
>Yes, windows is BETTER
Learn to run a debloat script and go back
>They've had 30 years to make a decent product
Who's "they"? Linux isn't a product, retarded mongoloid.
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>>109605392
>Do I really have to update
You don't. I'm pretty sure you can turn these off
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Can someone explain to me the point of using a zram swap device on top of regular ram? Why is this better than not having swap at all?
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"It is incredibly frustrating, and you are completely right—it feels deeply embarrassing for the desktop Linux ecosystem.To answer your question directly: Yes, it is fundamentally impossible for Wine to dynamically scale smoothly across two different monitors right now using standard configurations."

Am I reading this correctly?
Linux/wayland can't even do something this basic?

Wine programs won't work if you have monitors with 2 different scaling?
One is 100% and the other is 200%

Absolutely incredible. The linux desktop is a joke.
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>>109605392
If you don't like it, run
systemctl --user edit --full arch-update.timer
and edit the intervals. Perhaps remove the startup check, or depending on your behavior, keep only the startup check.

Note that this will install a manual copy of the timer service into your user's systemd configs, if cachy changes their default settings later you will not use them.
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>>109605439
>Because it's designed for retarded faggots like you
It's designed for people who want things to simply work. It's designed for people who want convenience and don't want to be limited in what they can do with their computers because some cuck nerd said so.
>Who's "they"?
Linux devs
People keep saying to switch to linux for years and it's still garbage after all these years
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>>109605392
>go to flip sign that says DAYS SINCE NEW USER WAS CONFUSED ABOUT LINUX UPDATES BECAUSE OF A GUI
>it's already set to 0
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>>109605507
No, that is not correct. Unless maybe on X11 which you shouldn't use anymore.
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>>109605355
>I suppose something will break if you boot an old snapshot with a different kernel like dkms modules, etc.
Right, some snapshot may miss the modules that belonged to a different kernel.
(this is why I wished Linux (the kernel) had support for a separate /lib/modules and /lib/firmware partition so you could separate them from the other parts of root - the userland)
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>>109586425
why does he hate linux so much?
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>>109605548
>No, that is not correct.
It is though. There is literally no way to fix this.
using wayland btw
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>>109605567
I am on wayland and I don't have this issue. I have a 133% scale and a 100% scale monitor. Dragging WINE windows between them works fine. They're scaled correctly on both.
Can you post a video showing what's happening on your end?
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>>109605579
Nevermind I fixed it, holy shit lol
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>>109605528
>>109605528
>NOOOOOOOOOO this system doesn't fit my retarded standards and autistic use cases no one cares about. It is trash and unusable!
Learn to run a debloat script and go back. The Linux community doesn't need even more retards than it already has.

>and it's still garbage
It's your fault for lacking critical thinking skills and going with whatever the cattle tells you to use instead of using your brain and evaluating the options according to your purposes.
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>>109605613
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis
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>>109605613
>retarded standards and autistic use cases
You mean basic computing? Things that are common sense? lol
>lacking critical thinking skills
You base this assumption on what exactly?
>and going with whatever the cattle tells you
So wanting things to work and to be convenient makes me cattle and making things needlessly annoying makes you a free thinker.
Got it.
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>>109605625
>basic computing
Your arbitrary autistic pet peeves aren't "basic computing".
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Is making a puppy USB to play pirated games that might have malware a good idea?
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>>109605762
Please stay on Windows and buy your games if your knowledge is on this level.
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>normies and casuals don't deserve a better experience because I'm a really smart guy
>I don't care about free software because the only thing that matters is me
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>>109605658
Who the fuck are you?
In 1982 I walked Richard Stallman up on stage!
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I also love how some programs you try to pin to taskbar on KDE plasma create duplicate copies of themselves instead of using the same icon
and trying to fix it is nearly impossible
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>>109605762
No.

>>109605903
I assume one is a launcher and the other is a task icon? Remove all launchers from your panel, they're useless.
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How do you recognize a normie?
>kde or gnome
>cachyos or "arch"
>constant screeching and crying over mundane shit
If it's that difficult to use, why don't you install something else then?
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>>109605933
>Remove all launchers from your panel
wdym by launcher? It's just the icon that opens the program ?
Why can't they be the same thing like every other icon?
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>>109605943
crazy there are niggas using a server os as a desktop os (debian)
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>>109605958
>Debian is a Linux-based operating system for a wide range of devices including laptops, desktops and servers.
it works on my machine
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>>109605903
If you even run your text editor with wine you should really use windows
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>>109605947
There is, it's because Wine isn't setting the appid right so Plasma thinks the launcher isn't associated with the running instance.

If you open the kwin debug console (just search for kwin debug) it will list all the running windows, probably the appid is different to the .desktop file name you have so you don't get proper grouping.

This is a solved problem. 100% a Wine issue rather than a "Linux" issue. Sometimes you would see this behaviour with Chromium/Electron based apps too. It all comes down to them not specifying the app id properly.
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>>109605974
Yeah, that is what a server os is made for, to work in everything.
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>>109606000
what about using bottles to make this work better?
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>>109605947
>wdym by launcher? It's just the icon that opens the program ?
That's called a "launcher" and it's different from a task icon. These are often not in sync no matter which desktop environment you use and no matter if you're on Linux or Windows. Launcher icons are simply unreliable as task icons, making the whole idea of pinned launchers pointless. Right click on all of them and unpin them and save yourself the trouble of using an outdated way to open software.

The reason these exist is because the early versions of Windows didn't have a search bar in the app menu, which is similar to the reason why desktop icons existed. If you want a shortcut to an app, put it in your app menu or create a keyboard shortcut to it.
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>>109606036
>If you want a shortcut to an app, put it in your app menu or create a keyboard shortcut to it.
No I don't think I will.
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>>109606035
Bottles is still using Wine under-the-hood but potentially it might install a .desktop file with the proper name. I don't know. This should be fixable pretty easily.
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Hello /g/ nerds, I'm reposting my question from /v/ here since it got some traction there and I'd like more opinons. I'm looking to swap to a linux distro and want some recommendations. I'm pretty decently tech-literate and willing to learn to tinker with the console and other things.

I'm looking for an OS (and Package manager and Desktop Environment, and whatever else I might need) that's not too much of a hassle (constant NEED to manually fix too many problems, but the option to constantly update or smt is fine). Preferably something that can run well, look nice (like the ricing videos and whatnot), and that I can (as intuitively as possible) know what's going on with it (it drives me insane how windows creates a program's folder in 6 different locations and when I uninstall it I still see the leftovers years down the line)
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>>109586425
WHY IS OPENSUSE SO DOG SHIT, IM JUST TRYING TO CHANGE MY BRIGHTNESS AND INSTALL NEOFETCH WHY IS IT BRINGING UP A POP UP WINDOW FOR MY FUCKING PASSWORD
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>>109606048
>know what's going on with it (it drives me insane how windows creates a program's folder in 6 different locations and when I uninstall it I still see the leftovers years down the line)
HAHAHAHA
It's worse on linux.
There's like 10 ways to install a program, and they all decide randomly where they are going to store their data. Good luck.
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>>109606040
Then enjoy your broken shit.
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>>109606043
To be clear, by "pretty easily" it still may need changes on the Wine side to call "setdesktopfilename" properly.

Same thing from a Qt apps perspective:
https://runebook.dev/en/docs/qt/qguiapplication/desktopFileName-prop
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>>109606065
Fuck, is there really no way to keep your shit organized? No program, OS, anything? even just something like a logger just for new files/programs/folders would be nice, so I can go back to X date and see all the shitty files and shitty places Photoshop (example) installed, and make sure I fully uninstall and wipe crap I don't want
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>>109606068
Windows has had this working flawlessly since windows 7. There's no reason why linux shouldn't be able to.
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>>109606057
FUCK THIS IM INSTALLING CACHY
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>>109606082
No it didn't. I had the same issue with Windows 7 and 10. This shit being broken on Windows 7 is the whole reason I stopped using panel launchers. It's just pointless clutter.
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>>109606096
come home white man
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>>109604312
>>109604331
>wahhh wahhh
Shut the fuck up retard, all this complaining
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>>109588159
Try disabling TPM and select dTPM in the bios
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>>109606080
You could do that by comparing btrfs snapshots maybe. I haven't done it
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>>109605762
Winesapos
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>>109605903
https://github.com/dail8859/NotepadNext
https://notepadng.org/
https://notepadqq.com/s/
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>>109606080
He's a lying troon. 90% of shit goes in consistent place, some lazy devs may not respect xdg specifications. Only exception is flatpaks, they go into .var but are easier to get rid of.
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>>109606048
Fedora
https://github.com/devangshekhawat/Fedora-44-Post-Install-Guide
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>>109606096
Install pikaos
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>>109605289
>Is 4 GB of ram enough nowadays without swap?
it would be if it weren't for browsers gobbling up more ram every year
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>>109606195
I was using that, it sucks
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>>109605392
It's so that you feel right at home with the constant update nags. How thoughtful of CachyOS devs to acommodate Windows refugees like this :^)
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>>109605392
From December to July my Ubuntu PC was running 24/7 with just 3 reboots, the first one was a hardware failure, then I booted into Windows to set up some stuff for VR gaming, then booting back into ubantoo



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