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>>109593194

Indian Hindus are a plague of locusts. They systematically infiltrate, infest, and destroy every single form of civilization. They are a plague to both the digital and natural worlds. Their very existence is a crime against humanity. Read the daily news from India and share these links to brown pill your fellow techbros. Everyone must see what we are mass importing and handing over our most critical tech infrastructure to:

https://www.india.com/topic/rape
https://www.india.com/topic/mob
https://www.india.com/topic/incest
>alt links if geo blocked
https://www.ndtv.com/topic/rape
https://www.ndtv.com/topic/mob
https://www.ndtv.com/topic/incest
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>>109593250
This but muslims.
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>>109593194
how do i get an asian gf as a neet?
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>>109594803
you gonna get raped
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>>109593250
>country with 2 billion people has rape happening in it

say it ain't so!

lol indians are some of the nicest people I've ever worked with in software development. like ones that are actually good enough to come and live in the states. chinks are ok but seem really cliquish like you can't make friends with them because they've sworn allegiance to communism or something
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>>109595182
epic dalit moment.
-2000 izzat
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>get tons of ways to live your life
>choose to become an ITcuck at the worst possible time
I don’t think people in other fields realize how easy they have it.
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>>109595182
indians are the most soulless slave race
trust me, i've been around them enough to know how they operate
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>>109593194
What do any of these videos have to do with computer science/why is it always Asian/brown women posting them
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>>109596033
>/why is it always Asian/brown women posting them
it literally isnt. this is a universal female thing
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>>109595723
And IT cucks did not realize how easy they had it in 2012. What now?
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>>109595182
Indians are only nice until they outnumber you. At least with chinks what you see is what you get.
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>>109596033
>>109596053
After millions of years of couple-pair bonding for women, in the absence of a husband, they are now married to abstract concepts (e.g. "Computer Science) that can provide for them.
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>Interview Process: Video & Onsite
yeah ok fuck that
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>>109593250
How come chinese people call themselves tony, victor, Wayne, Zoe but indians don't?
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>>109595182
It's so funny watching rightoids be reduced to arguing which non-white group should be the preferred model minority to cuck them out of existence. Lol.
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>>109595182
>rape is part and parcel anon stop complaining
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>>109597029
indians are only a preferred model minority for the jews in power
nobody else is willing to do as much asskissing as they do
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So as you all remember I have that one week workshop where the top 2/3rds get hired next month and my mom will pay $200 for me to stay somewhere for a week. Should I rent a camp site that has water/electricity/showers and all that or try something like padsplit where you get a room for under 200 for a week? I can't believe I'm this close to making it. The one week training starts next Monday.
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I got a job in help desk. Now what?
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>>109593194
This field is dead. Has been dead for a while now, nothing but perpetual debt and McDonald's for its graduates (assuming they're not Indian or in the top 10%). Anyone who claims otherwise is coping.
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genuinely insane how literally everything you could want in life is arbitrarily gatekept by other people. im tired of trying to get acceptance.
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>>109598679
how did you get it wtf ive been applying to helldesk for a year and only received one interview.
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>>109599069
i applied to all the mcdonalds in my are and never even got a single interview

bachelors in this field is literally unemployable even the shit experience you get (i have 4 years) is useless since u didnt work on the 20 different technologies they all ask for
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>>109599069
But computers can do anything you just need someone that knows how to program them and fix them and stuff. There has to be more computer jobs that can be made and worked by us...
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Just wondering for CS grads, is this accurate? seems kind of insane that people are taking 4 year degrees learning about low level computer operations, data structures, etc. Just to end up making web apps in javascript.
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Do you wish you were born in the 60s or 70s? What would your career have been like?
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I've heard networking and being referred is far more effective than applying for jobs
What is everyone else's experience with that? Do they tend to "go easy on you" in the interview if you got it through a referral?
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>>109600185
they arent ending up doing that, they are ending up stocking shelves at walmart.
people are only getting cs degrees so they can tell their parents theyre studying and not to kick them out. they goom for 12 hours a day and do 1 hour of school work a week with AI and then get a totally real degree along with a few other mentally retarded race mixed zoomers.

>>109600383
no it would have sucked to been born in the wealthiest middle class economy the world has possibly ever seen.
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>>109600583
imagine being a 35 year old millennial manchild failure and crying about zoomers online
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>Anon, do you have reliable transportation?
What do you answer about this in the high figgies tech job interviewing?
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>>109600588
yikes. hey so this is literally just me voicing my bussin opinion and ur literally brown, and im all for it hope this helps
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>>109600416
It's a tough question . If you're a woman, networking is as easy as being pretty, flirting, and maybe sucking a dick or two.
If you're a guy, networking doesn't work unless you attended an ivy league or elite school (early career).
If you're in the latter part of your career, networking can and does lay dividends but it takes time to develop.
Case in point , I'm doing some freelance work for an old boss right now that might turn into a full time job. I honestly just miss working for him.
Every job I've ever had has been through me applying.
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>>109596145
> Tfw was an itcuck in 2012 to 2017
Work was so easy and then jeets fucking ruined it. Moved out into project management because of it.
I sometimes wish I was born ten years earlier to get into management before the shittening of It with jeets began.
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15 people at planet fitness at 2 am nigga this "economy" is so cooked lmao
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>>109595182
My indian coworkers are either extremely chill and smart or absolutely retarded assholes trying to gaslight and throw anyone else under the bus to make themselves look better. I don't get it there's almost no one inbetween. I guess it has to do with their work culture back home. Maybe these people who are retarded just get caught up in lies and exaggerations until they find themselves in a position they shouldn't be in but they don't have that same moral foundation that we generally assume everyone follows. So they just keep this act going no matter what even if it means acting like a psychopath
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>go through 3 technical rounds, discuss everything you could possibly think of that would be relevant for the job
>get told I passed all of them
>final interview with a high level manager
>"so I noticed you don't have a degree. why is that?" "are you planning on getting one?"
humiliation ritual
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>>109595182
Shut up, saar. I worked at Indian companies for 7 years. They ruined my life.
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>>109600588
Im a 35 year old millenial success and i love slamming 20 year old zoomer pussy. Zoomers are also funny and racist unlike pathetic manchild herbivore millenials
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>>109596033
>Asian
it's a show off/status thing for them
Same mentality as Asians wanting to wear brand name clothing, BMWs and Mercedes, gold jewelry, becoming a doctor just because other people will assume you make a lot of money and so you'll be a good little Asian model citizen in the Asian social hierarchy. They get a rush from doing things they think others will think is bougee, it's just an Asian thing to self-organize into ape-like social structures because they basically speak an ooga booga language so it just comes natural to them
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A fat American muttoid fuck who gets no sun and no pussy typed this post btw
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I have also noticed Asians for whatever reason seem to have an overdeveloped instinct toward status-seeking
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I got an interview at google, can't wait for backbreaking rounds then a rejection.
Hope I at least get to visit an office
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>>109593194
>cant even get retail jobs

the lady i talked to at build a bear last week said she would call me later this week and its thursday.. I called to make sure this past monday. I need money bros
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>>109602176
If I wanted to sit like a slackjawed retard in front of a screen I'd watch teevee or movies.
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>>109600738
Uber exists, the answer is simply 'Yes'
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Why are you fags so negative, my coworkers love their job and want to get better at it.
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Is it worth trying apply for a data center job in Germany? My city has got a lot of them lately like ~30 last two years I have never seen a white guy in there it was always jeets. Their requirements are really weird they just ask networking and linux thats really broad.
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omg. I am working so hard to apply for job. How come no one like me :(
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What are you supposed to do when you easily lose your train of thought during interviews or presentations? Usually I use fuck or fucking as a filler word when regularly talking so I can't really talk the way I would usually talk. I'm naturally a bad talker. What should I do? I'm not someone who usually gets social cues so it's fucking difficult to know when to stop talking.
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>>109605461
its pretty hard to talk in interviews as a shutin. those are the only times I talk at all. some freaks talk to themselves maybe I should start doing that
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>>109605461
i have the same problem. you need to relax enough to allow pauses and to think clearly. its an issue when you have normalized cursing in formal settings.
you should look at it like this, if you curse in an interview at best it would be overlooked, and in all likelihood you will be rejected for it because its very unprofessional.
even if you cant relax you should just lower the amount you curse. people might think its amusing but they also think you are white trash for doing it. in my case they would be right, i am from a trailerpark and everyone cursed like sailors. if thats how you want people to view you, keep doing it.
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>>109605461
>What are you supposed to do when you easily lose your train of thought during interviews or presentations?
Why DO you lose your train of thought during them?
After answering that, ask yourself why again.
Ask yourself why 3x more after that, and you should've reached the source of your problem.
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LETS GO LETS GO LETS GO LETS FUCKING GO!!! Got one week of training in my own stack except for fastAPI which is python so w/e then I just gotta be picked after one week workshop then I'll actually have made it. I can't believe it I'm actually going to be survive by myself without mommy/daddy milkies I can't fucking believe it.
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I think I've officially become unemployable. One year without a job
I'm trying to get a job as a school teacher now.
Not a bad way to go, I guess. Lots of time to work on my own projects
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>>109606389
Lol I dated a teacher for a while. During the school year, she spent almost every free moment grading shit. And she taught an easy-A elective. Sometimes, she even asked me to help grade stuff for her. I always said no, which pissed her off, but seriously... fuck no. And then one day she got punched in the crossfire when two students were fighting. All for like $30k a year.
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>>109606434
I don't live in the US :)
Teaching an IT / programming subject is piss easy
And it beats being unemployed and spending savings. That said, if I manage to find a tech job, I'll take it
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>>109595182
>say it ain't so!
You heard of the party bus? india built the rape bus....
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Hi, give me all your gacha monies! This is a stick up you unemployed bums! I still haven't got a job but I might get that 5 star!
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>>109605843
genes. Can't really do anything if it's a genetic thing.
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>>109606626
>genes. Can't really do anything if it's a genetic thing.
No, you just assume you can't, because you assume it's genetic.
Why did you assume it's a genetic thing?
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have another interview tomorrow but I'm just not getting my hopes up for any of them anymore
in a way it actually makes me feel less nervous knowing the probable outcome at this point
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>>109606389
two years without a job here
I have the knowledge and creds but I'm just not good enough for interviewers for whatever reason
fuck this retarded field
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>>109606798
just extend the years of your last job to fill up the gap and join some small company who dont care about background checks and such
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>>109606798
Similar as me then. I hate the entire interview process. I'm going to try to do some things on my own and if it doesn't work out, whatever, who cares. Wasn't meant to be I guess.
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>>109604883
I worked in a datacentre in England for over eight years. There are very few people working in each one, so you might struggle to get hired. Most of the work will be crawling around plugging in cables, and looking at air-conditioning units and making sure they haven’t randomly switched off again. You’d be very lucky if your job used any networking or Linux skills whatsoever. Understanding how BMS systems work (BMS = Building Management System, by the way) will be much more useful. If you can use an OTDR, that’s what got one of my colleagues the job, even though we didn’t even have one at my old work.
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>>109595182
My current job is full of Indians, Pakistanis and Africans, and one of the Indians I work with is obviously ashamed of being Indian. He worships white people and wishes he was one. He’s based. The Africans are better but kind of dumb. The worst ones are the Muslim women with really strong derka-derka-derka accents.
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>>109593250
>Literally 3 white people names
>All with random language surnames
>The rest are literally 80% pajeets and 19% some sort of asian, including some of the white sounding names
They don't even hide themselves, can they?
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>>109607133
Why would they hide themselves? You get called a racist for merely pointing it out
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>>109607243
>You get called a racist for merely pointing it out
Yeah, it's mindboggling that it's just accepted that the norm right now it's to just hire third worlders and illegals for entry level jobs a newgrad or a 16yo kid wanting to have their own cash could do.
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>>109596361
white name + chink name almost always sounds badass
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>>109606643
Do you think people wish to lose their train of thought or mutter or freeze when speaking or something along those lines? You don't choose how to talk. It's highly genetic. No one was taught lessons on how to speak, they just picked it up growing up.
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>>109607452
>It's highly genetic.
but
>they just picked it up growing up.
uhhhhh
while I do think you have a problem, i don't think it's the one you're thinking of bud
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>hi son hows the job hunt going?
>so howd it go with company x? what about that interview with company y?
>think you have a chance with z?
>I saw this job ad on linkedin, you should apply!
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>>109593250
They destroyed eBay and Paypal to the point of no return. If one gets in, a hoard will get in.
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>>109607768
>oh I've heard of them, you should go for them!
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>>109607768
>hi son why don't you have a job yet and are making six figures and own a house already?
>and don't you dare blame the shitty job market and economy, anything but that!
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>>109600383
more like born in the wrong country lol
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>>109608888
man I wish I had it as easy as burgers, their houses are cheap living in non trendy states and their cost of living is so low as long as they are not straight up retards doordashing everything
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>>109609029
lmao my dads electrical + water bill last month was $600.
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>>109609044
cheaper than the UK, significantly so
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>>109607751
Yes they just picked it up growing up retard. You don't actively learn how to speak. No one gets taught how to move their lips and tongue in order to speak. So your brain chooses the way you speak. It's a process you can't control. Fuckwit. Like imagine asking someone with a lisp why they chose to speak like that. You don't choose how you speak or think.
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>>109609029
>he thinks things are easy here
lmao
pick another country
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>>109609119
it's incredible burgers don't think they have it easy.

Apart from maybe Norway or meme countries like Lichtenstein it's basically the easiest place on earth to be in
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>>109609051
so the habit of swearing is genetic in your opinion?
ok bud
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>>109595182

Cope Ramesh, We can go back thousands of years and look at what writers from all kinds of different religions and cultures said about the Indian Hindu rape rats. There isn't a single positive depiction of Hindus- they are only ever known for their unimaginable savagery. India isn't a country with some rape, it's like Rape: the country. And it has nothing to do with poverty or education, it has everything to do with HINDUS. You cannot civilize them no matter what you try. The gypsies that plague Europe are Indian Hindu invaders who had the benefit of living among whites for hundreds of years, and yet they remain the same rapey, inbred, civilization destroying savages as their Hindu cousins back in India.
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>>109607909

Far more than that. It would be easier to find a list of things they haven't destroyed. Every form of civilization in their path, from a simple app to entire countries, gets infested and destroyed by them. I completely understand why Pakistan fought a war to not have to live around them.
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Awaken!

Time for another day of NEETdom, haha.

Where the white jobs at?
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>>109600185
Yes, it's true. But there are some jobs where you will use at least some of that.
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>>109600185
Here's the realistic path: you do all that crap, you excel, you end up jobless and working at McDonald's after a dozen or so degrading interviews where neither you expertise nor education are valued, unless you're Indian of course.
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I've been without work for a year and three months now and only got one shit offer during that entire time. Where the fuck does one find tech jobs now? Indeed dried up, LinkedIn sucks ass, and recruiters suck ass.
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>>109602849
Koreans aren't like this thoughbeit
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>>109606458
>Teaching an IT / programming subject
LMAO if you think this is a more reliable profession than the IT/Programming itself.
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>>109611088
The AI LLM have taken over. We are cast-down now. There are no more jobs available for us. We must retreat to mommies basement until the AI is out dated.
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>>109602169
Or when you do have one and even if you pass the technical, you rub the manager up the wrong way and don't get the job anyways
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I can't get a freelance, can't get visits to my linkedin, can't get called to an interview
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>>109611101
Mostly talking about Chinese people here and generalizing a bit but it's a real pattern I've noticed in my (big tech bro) circle
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>>109611088
clearancejobs, unironically
but even that isn’t as easy as it sounds anymore
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>>109611088
Monster is all scams, Dice is endless reposts of ghost jobs, Craigslist jobs section is mostly tradie and low end labor.
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>>109610991
good morning

today hopefully i get interview sir i havent had interview once since last oct very not good bloody bitch
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>>109612261
maybe I will go to the Indian convenience store and star at their beautiful brown breasts good sir. I haven't thought of anything else to do today.

Good luck at your interview.
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>>109593194
>after college sucking major cock
She didn't knew she could suck so much cock during college too.
That's how a girl matures and becomes wiser.
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going to college at a later age is pure suicide fuel.
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>>109612475
not really... ur much more mature and know what you want, you will use the resources better, get better grades since you know the importance now

its much better desu i wish i went at later age rather than at 18...
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>>109611126
Plenty of tard wrangling jobs (decent pay but tard wrangling is stressful). Every higher level job I look at sounds incredibly fake and gay or designed purely for an internal candidate.
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>>109612494
my cousin is like 40 and has spent 6 years on his MSc at John hopkins computer engineering. Epic fail.
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>>109612494
depends. if you get a degree at a later age BUT you have job experience, family, etc. that's fine and it does improve your prospects

but if you get a degree late with NO job experience you are COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY FUCKED. you have literally NO advantages over a 22 year old. The ONLY thing you can do is get a masters so that you can stand out at least a little bit and have the POTENTIAL for job.
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>>109612521
A mature age can be exploited like a jeet. a Young person can simply fuck off whenever they feel like it.
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>go into interview expecting to be fully prepared
>they ask me a bunch of tricky gotcha questions that I had to fumble over instead of asking me normal stuff that I prepared for
>one of the questions contained something that wasn't even mentioned in the job description
why are they like this?
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>>109612567
To judge how you'd react to the absolute random shit you will be responsible for. What did they ask?
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I've been unemployed for two years (though I was in school for a year and a half of that) and still have more stuff to do than I have time. I have concluded that anyone who gets "bored" of retirement in this day and age is mentally ill.
EXCEPTION: If social activity is by far your main hobby, then I get it. But "I-I need that 9-5 grind or I go insane", my brother in Christ, you are insane.
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>>109612521
fair enough if u have literally no exp ur fucked but i had a campus IT job and u can lev that to get internships and shit
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>>109612715
idk. I'm still yet to even get my bachelor's. should I work for at least a year or two so that I have job experience so I can get a job? how about a masters with no experience?

I can't get payed the same as a 22 year old, since an older guy has more shit he has to pay for nd that money won't cut it
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hello sirs please teach me the art of using ai to cheat in interviews
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>>109612715
can you lie or hide your age? since that's discrimination. just say you're 22
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I genuinely hate tech now but still wrapping up my last term for my bachelors cause it would be stupid not to finish at this point - what else can I do with this silly degree?
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>>109612752
get a masters
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>>109612752
>I genuinely hate tech now
because?
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how much better are Ivy Leagues compared to normal unis? I feel inferior for not going to one and want to at least try to get into one for my postgraduate
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I just graduated at 32 and setup my linkedin and my github with my cool project and all that and I've had several recruiters reach out to me. I'm currently doing training with one and I'll tell you guys if I actually get the job. 32 is the new 22 desu, 20s people are too immature and flaky and undisciplined for even $50k a year entry level tech jobs really.
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>>109612770
probably very different dude imagine the resources and connections you make..

every single rich, important powerful person in America went to Ivy league.. Im talking every CEO, every big founder, even the supreme court justices, top finance guys etc etc..
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>>109612770
not going to a good college is probably the only thing that will sting me till the very end
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>>109612759
I have a masters but I'm still without a job right now
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>>109612775
this is cope. recuriters may hire a 32yr old, but not a 22yr old in a 32yr old's body (ie most people on this site)
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>>109612759
kek , lowkey a strat I know some people are doing

>>109612762
It shoulda always just been a hobby for me desu, I realize actually doing this for money + stress kills whatever passion and joy I had for making my own shit
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>>109612779
why?
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>>109612793
because its cool and people respect it. its also a validation of your intellectual abilities. your career may go up down and sideways but that degree stays forever. and this is aside from the benefits you get from the alumni network.
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>>109600583
This shit is so insane to watch as a 37 year old.
20 years ago I honestly thought millennials were retarded and had so much contempt for my peers. But compared to mulatto zoomerism the average dipshit millennial back then was an uebermensch.
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>>109612816
>alumnni network
That's a big if. This board is full of people that have masters but did not benefit from friends at their uni, if they even made any.
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>>109612816
degree without career is just a useless paper.

but is the content of the things you learn in Ivy league better than in noname uni?
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>>109612816
I want master's at an ivy league just for bragging rights and to feel secure about myself. I don't like myself.
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>>109612762
I was tricked into going for tech as a profession instead of business/finance where it's actually easy to land jobs. This field doesn't have a future.
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>>109612968
how fucked is electronic engineering?
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>>109611101
ALL asians are like this. China, Japan, Turkey, Iran, Singapore, etc. Literal bugman behavior
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>>109612978
>electronic engineering?

To even get into a proper engineering program is a uphill battle , engineering is not an easy pivot for most people so this will always have demand, basically if you are a proper engineer school trained - you'll find SOME job
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If I had known everyone who told me "I can get you a job at my company" actually meant "I can't get you a job at my company", maybe I wouldn't have quit my (shitty) job.
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>>109612978
electronic engineering is doing pretty good. been seeing a bunch of sw and ai engineers in the company being let go, but my ee department has been rock solid
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>>109612853
trvke: it literally all boils down to the interview in the end (if you even get one) and whether the interviewers liked you or got the ick
having a masters doesn't matter as much anymore and doesn't guarantee you an immediate job
anything else is cope in this dead field
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>actually got an interview
>they said they might do another interview but they might just get back to me end of day and accept me
I. Am. Losing. My. Mind.
Please for the love of God
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>>109607768
>>109607959
>>109608059
They're right, you know.
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>>109612759
and go into debt? i'm not a retard
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>>109612770
Ivy Leagues opens doors that are inaccessible to normies.
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got raped in another interview award
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>>109613872
The door in this case leads to a cock that must be sucked. Be prepared to open your anus too.
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>>109614036
You're a faggot.
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>>109614270
do you want a job or not?
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>>109614337
Is sucking cock the only way for you to get a job?
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>>109614481
some cultures like China love that sort of hand shake and loyalty to the CCP corporation when on boarding
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I wish it was easy as sucking a cock for fang, they would still want you to complete leetcode while finishing them off
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>>109614498
Okay. So you're a faggot. We accept your concession.
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>>109614836
Sorry. I ment, China #1. All hail Xi. China will lead the new millennium with legitimate engineering and scientific discovery! China to the moon!
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>>109602849
>>109603579
Its the only thing they have in the west
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>>109614535
but imagine working at FAANG bro like free food so u save money on never cooking and grocery... free gym so u never pay gym membership

this is all on top of the 500k TC fuark imagine how rich you would be in like 5 years
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>>109616861
ikr its going to be awesome
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>>109616884
also don't ask me how I know but the food isn't always free, maybe google gives free food but the faan in faang doesn't
they have reasonable prices though and they change the menu daily
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>>109616894
how do you know?
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>>109616894
corporate cafeterias in general have great prices, I still remember the chimken sammiches at BofA at marketxvanness 9th floor and the breakfast burritos at West Marine in watsonville. good times.
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>>109616894
I am such a fatass i would gain so much weight if i worked at google
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should I make a indeed account or likedin account? I have zero work experience so I don't think likedin will get me any recruiters.
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>jobless Cnile
>want a job other than low level embedded shit
>apply to a Qt job because I had a Qt job back in 2009
>accepted for a HR interview for it
>spend a few days studying what changed, QML and all that
>read interview questions
>realise I'm way out of my depth
Tempted to call off the interview desu, but I might as well give it a shot. It almost feels like a waste of time cramming harder for it.
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(print "Hello world!")


I sent u code pls hire me.
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https://youtu.be/RhgUPVm1yuk?si=k5uT0o8My0A2GGKN
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is it worth grinding out a ccnp for these potential network engineer jobs or not worth it?
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>>109622008
I understand you.
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>>109622709
daycare while helping google meet quotas to get funding from blackrock
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>>109622709
this girl makes like 300k+ btw
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>>109622375
CCNP doesn't look good with zero experience. Maybe go for azure/aws shit or redhat rhcsa
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>>109623442
just be a girl
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>>109624586
*pretty girl
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>>109624599
*Girl the HR jeet can suspend disbelief and imagine he has a chance
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>>109623927
>>109622375
Except you can't even get a network admin job with just a CCNA, so good fucking luck. Gotta start in hell desk and crawl your way up. This whole field is fucked. Honestly, avoid network engineering like the plague. For the effort it takes, you could easily become a fagman coder. Same with cybershits. Absurd amount of effort. IT in general is just a bad return on investment time and stress wise, and it keeps getting squeezed by automation every passing year
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What are you pivoting into after you failed to get your tech career off the ground? I'm thinking of just getting some random temp job to hopefully learn some sort of skill.
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might just be easier to start a business and make money than get a job atp
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>>109625203
What kind of business though? Because it's really hard to sell software.
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>>109593194
it's hard to care about women's suffrage when they post shit like this
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>>109625600
>Because it's really hard to sell software.
Unironically learn go-to-market (GTM) engineering. Figuring out what your ideal customer profile is, figure out your value proposition, and figure out how to contact them (e-mail, phone, LinkedIn etc.). It's an exciting time to build something you're able to sell yourself. The reason is because company's often make shit bloated software that's expensive to run and maintain. If you know what you're doing, you'd probably be able to make a solution that's cheaper, faster and produces better results for your customers. The incentive for employees working at most companies to refine their employer's software is just about zero, and even less since the message belted into your average wagecuck is "fuck you, you don't matter, AI is going to replace you, and if it doesn't then someone from a developing nation will for a 1/10 of your salary". Exciting times for those who aren't retarded.
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>>109625600
i was thinking about a sleep tracking app!!!
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>>109625822
Dumbest one I've seen is an app to remind you to drink water.
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> why do you not have a job anon
> idk I just get no replies
> did you make a linkedin profile yet anon look at me I get so many recruiters
> no I did not I have no work experience I doubt the recruiters will care
> you are stupid anon give in make a linkedin account you will get a job
what is wrong with these wagies its all crazy talk if I go and get ad it doesn't mean I am getting the job I am just getting fucking ads. This is not a boomer problem way too many younger people have told me the same shit as if linkedin was the holy grail to solve all problems.
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>>109626893
>Too retarded to network
You deserve to be unemployed.
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>>109626893
my government appointed job coach also has no advice besides "dude just look on linkedin", even though ive repeatedly told him i almost never find a job that actually matches my skills and the few times i do, ive never gotten a fucking reply cause they always got more than a hundred applicants. wish i could strange that guy.
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>>109625058
>What are you pivoting into
Actually I'm hoping a Ferrari pivots into me while I'm in a marked crosswalk in broad daylight.
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What am I supposed to wear at an interview for a software engineering position? Is wearing a t-shirt, jeans and runners fine? I don't really own button down shirts. Especially with long sleeves. I'm not sure if they fit me anymore. Hate tucking in my shirt.
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>>109627826
no dont wear t shit and jeans do business casual
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>>109627826
if I am serious about I role I find a t-shirt with no stains, AND the pair of jeans with no holes in
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>>109629195
>he dosent have his cock showing through holes in his pants with no underwear on
ngmi, you'll never seize the HR foid's attention like that'll
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>>109593194
I wish I don't have to drive around an asian bitch with a supercar, literally the worst two things to happen to have around.
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>>109629353
asian hoes r ugly as dog piss

the half white ones look good though but full east asian look like vomit ngl
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>>109629359
>but full east asian look like vomit ngl
That's good though, if no one wants to bang their ugly ass, they won't cuck you the next day after coming back from the honeymoon.
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what is the point of society explain 'you need get job' 'you only exist for job' 'job is your pride.' But, me? me no job. me no pride. me only dream of job. me become dream. me hallucination. me not real. ?_?
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women get the ick if you don't have a job, unless you are also a criminal who can beat them
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>>109629679
I cannot get a security clearance. Does that mean I am some sort of attractive nig criminal?
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I have to have my webcam on for the zoom training. My nephew visits occasionally and we share an office/playroom. Will it be funny if set my zoom background to underwater or something or will I get dinged for unprofessionalism and I should just use blur or move all his shit? Will he be mad?
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>>109629823
i doubt they would care my last job for the interview my boss set his background to some Hawaii tropical shit idk dont think it matters..
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I want to get more into IT and wanted to know what some good sources of learning are for a beginner of sorts? I want to learn a little bit of everything before setting my sight on a main topic.
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>>109630332
jeremey IT labs is good especially the CCNA course that will cover the basics of networking real good

you could also learn about RHCSA which is red hat linux that covers the basics and there are videos and books too..

These two will cover the basics of IT and then u can move into cloud stuff if u want or windows server
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Which is a better choice in terms of fun and long term career paths; devops engineer or software developer?
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>>109630621
software
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I legitimately am the only one of my circle irl that didn’t make it
>colleagues from school
>former coworkers
>former interns
All in tech jobs, moving up to senior and management level positions, making good salaries, having real lives. And I’ve been stuck working a survival job for the last 2 years. I chose to take a gap year back when things were good and when I came back they were no longer good. I had friends that did the same but they did it in college, with there parents money. My parents didn’t have money. Then I made some of my own and thought it would be a good idea to try and see the world while I was still young. It’s just frustrating and kind of ironic.
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>>109593194
The life I was cheated out from.
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Does anyone else feel guilty using the buttons at cross walks? It's like... they're in a car. I'm walking, and unemployed. I have nowhere important to be. Surely their time is more valuable than mine. I always feel pretty bad about making them wait.
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>>109631898
>using the buttons
are you in some cucked country where this is the legal requirement or what
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god please have mercy on me i have rent to pay
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>>109632347
lmao nigga if you applied to an sde position they're going to send you an OA with 2 leetcode hards, and if you cheat and manage to pass that they're going to put you through another 4 interviews asking you leetcode hards with jeet interviewers
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>>109593194
holy hell i really want to have sex with her
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>>109631898
you know they're just placebo buttons right?
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>>109632459
in my town the actually work. you won't get the walk signal without pressing them
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>>109632445
its a senior support position which at this point might aswell be a project manager with qa responsibilities but fucking shit i need a job im going to kill myself
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>>109632445

All of that is passable if you're not retarded and put in some study time. The real jeetery is the behavioral interview, where the Indian Hindu hiring manager gets to completely subjectively fail everyone except one of his fellow Indian Hindus from his same caste, who then gets the job. Ask me how I know about this.

One day when this country is destroyed because Indians took over our nuclear reactors and caused meltdowns nationwide, I hope these cancerous fucks who brought them here and gave them our best jobs are the first ones swinging by the neck.
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>>109632887
good luck
https://leetcode.com/problems/sum-of-total-strength-of-wizards/description/
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Any Resume tips?
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>>109632707
Why would someone who understands version control put a binary format like PDF in their repo?
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>>109633020
I check in datasheets so they're with the project they're relevant to.
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>>109632954
I saw people say that you should pay someone on Fiverr $50 to write a resume for you.
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Oh shit
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Bit annoying I applied to a job on Wednesday and I can't even get a reply like "yep we got your mail thanks".

>>109627826
Christ mate, buy a button down shirt. Maybe some dress shoes.
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>>109634003
dystopic
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>>109634003
20 minutes of yapping with chatgpt
lmao
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>>109634059
>>109634063
she cute
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>>109634003
>>109634063
Fookin aced it lads. I answered questions about my autistic OpenCL rasteriser for 10 minutes and then answered basic C++ questions lmao.
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>apply to place one year ago
>didn't even get an interview
>see same job posting reposted today

this job market sucks dick, man
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>>109634267
chatting with an AI might actually work to your advantage
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Day 1 of training in less than an hour, wagmi
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>>109593194
>>109599069
computer science coding is dead, for sure. I would not want to be graduating within the last 3 years or even in the next 5.
I've worked at my current job for more than a decade but I no longer write code, it's all just AI agents now, and we don't need new local hires because the ranks just fill with indians constantly AND I only work with citizens, so that's even worse somehow.
My advice to anyone young or just starting would be to get into trades at the moment: plumbing, electrician, welding, truck driving, etc.
IDK what the future holds but outside of lawyer/doctor/pilot (go pilot if you really want to make good money in ~10+ years, esp. if you are a female) but coding is probably not the way.
Good luck anons.
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>>109620029
>>109616894
because they make more money if you stay at work to eat and never leave.
>>109620100
I worked at a place that did free cafeteria lunches, and sometimes catering from chik-fila and other places. I think I gained 20lbs and it starts a decade long overweight cycle but I think I'm getting better now. It was worth it at the time though, cause I had no money back then.
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>>109625058
pivoting into neetdom and learning stuff at home to pass time
what else can I do if the tech field no longer wants me to have a job?
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>>109634003
these are usually a waste of time and lead nowhere
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>>109634762
idk, sounds like Uber for AI GPU programming. They seem pretty eager.
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why do they do this why not just send a rejection mail why ghost me
am I supposed to call them? This isn't tinder.
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>>109629781
I have a security clearance and still can't get a job. You know things are fucked when it's reached this level.
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According to St. Louis fed technology sector headcount is only about 4% below pre-COVID level. Apparently, empirically things aren’t that bad. So what is going on?
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>>109612978
Not at all. But EE is actual engineering so it's difficult so you can't just wing it like most code monkeys do.
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>apply to hundreds of jobs near me with no response
>apply to job out of state for a big company with no expectation of getting it
>get an offer

God damn it i'm so fucking tired of having to move for a job
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>>109632707
AHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>109593194
I learned javascript and rust on my own and never had a programming job so I kind of want to ask...
What do you "do" in a web dev job? Do you make sites? I can't do that because I don't know web design so that's probably not it. Also why would anyone pay for that when they can just use a wordpress template?
I don't get what software engineers get paid to do. Like even if you develop apps... there aren't that many apps, so there won't be that many jobs. Facebook only has 1 app so how many programmers would they need?
Like if people were hiring programmers to make firmware for their hardware imo that makes sense because new hardware needs new firmware but web development doesn't feel like a real job, you know? How many backends the world needs?
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>>109635959
Depends. At my company we make all kinds of gear for factories/plants/mining industry. You'll have different teams doing different parts of the products. For example our PLC team is all C/C++ and they work on the RTOS for the PLC, while another team works on the Windows/Linux IDE, while yet another team will make the web interface. So just 1 PLC might have 30-60 devs working on it full time.
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>>109636125
So what do you need to know to work on the web interface then? They aren't going to ask for Node/Next/Nuxt/React for this, right? I mean if you are working with a dozen people on a tiny slice of a project, you don't need to be a full stack web dev... but every job posting I see is asking for literally every language/framework. It's like job postings aren't based on reality.
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>>109636218
Once again depends, you're not working on the same thing for eternity. In our case we release a new model/revision of every product every 3 to 5 years so you're constantly rotating what you're building on, what chips you're running what software stack etc. But that's for a company with physical products I assume life as a web dev for Amazon is gonna be different too.
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I just had the most brutally humiliating interview you could possibly imagine holy fuck. I don't even want to get into the specifics because of how bad it was. I didn't fail anything technically, they just kept probing into my background and asking me to explain shit I've done. How do you even try to fluff up a 1.5 year employment gap when they are digging in hard?
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>>109636700
story time?
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>>109636700
>how do you fluff up
You don’t. At one month out of work your resume is now effectively blank. Whatever is on there is now worthless. Pretend you are an 18 year old high school new grad again because that’s how you will be seen by recruiters
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>well son? heard anything back from (x) company?
PLEASE stop doing this to me
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Day 1 of training went great, I think im actually gonna make it bros! We just made a banking crud console app. Tomorrow is REST api so I just have to do a quick express refresher tonight because I use socket.io mostly. Wagmi.
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>>109636715
I don't want to go into too much detail, but just when I thought it couldn't get more humiliating, it somehow does. I had to spend 30 minutes begging for the job and explain to them why I'm the best candidate for the role, minimizing my job gap and playing up what I did at my last job.
One of the guys in charge of the hiring decisions did a bunch of research into my background, found one discrepancy (because of a retarded mistake I made online) and then they started questioning a ton of other stuff about me.
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>>109636700
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>>109637490
Who the fuck doesn't have one month out of work at this point?
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>>109637781
sounds more like a police interrogation
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>>109638102
It was actually worse, I had a clearance interview a few weeks ago and the questions they asked me were less degrading. All they cared about was whether I had foreign contacts / mental health issues / financial problems / substance abuse problems, etc.
This interview was me begging for the job in a roundabout way.
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https://apnews.com/article/trump-rubio-visas-revoke-e9c14fdfd0ada439d2b9d8694e678a46
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crazy how one bad interview can ruin your week. fuck.
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>>109637724
Are you with some revature style company? Sounds like it. Anything is better than nothing though.
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>>109638157
boinga boinga bbboiiiingnggg
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>>109596033
Most women in "computer science" are asians. Most of the white "women" in computer science are trannies.
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>>109638157
>>109639014
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>everyone tells me amazon warehouses are always hiring


nearest amazon warehouse is 30miles away and they have no shifts or jobs available wow
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>>109639207
Back like 10 years ago, all the slots would get filled as soon as they were posted. You basically have to bot it. I assume it's still like that now.
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>>109639221
dude wtf EVERYONE says these places are always hiring and easy to get.. it pays 20/hr which isnt that bad for mindless work so i can see how theyre so popular
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>>109638157
That’s great, but there’s no way he’s revoking it for the poos.
The orange nigger loves visas for the poos.
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>>109639239
They are always hiring (because of the turnover), you just have to be quick about it.
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when are we just going to go full sarajevo and just start sniping off poos on their way home from their tech job?

only half of murders are ever solved and that’s probably the half that impulsive niggers do
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>>109637781
Never show any signs of desperation during your job interview. It's a huge turnoff.
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Just finished my express rest api. Now I can spend all day tomorrow finally learning framer motion to really put me over the edge when we get to front end. Im doing it im going to have sex.
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>just got accepted as a systems engineer after interviewing for a different position
>one interview
>guy calls me back and says that the old position got axed but he wants to combine it with this one
>I'm totally unqualified for the role
>wants me to start in 2 days
how bad is it going to be?
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>>109639328
it will be fine, the hardest part of every job is the interview it's all such bullshit. GPT it until you catch up.
I could step into any coding role in any language i've never done before nowadays I swear
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>>109635959
where I work I am creating and updating web apps for financial tools. The UI is either in React or Angular, and the backend is typically Java, with some services in Python if they are interacting with models. I also work with creating and maintaining databases for these tools, Sql as well as noSql like Dynamodb. Some of our apps/tools are built with AWS and some arent. Im kind of expected to be a jack of all trades. The business comes to my team with an ask and we figure out how to build it full stack. I am also constantly scheduling meetings with our business contacts to figure out exactly how they want things to behave, often asking questions they didnt consider before.
However, that being said we dont expect you to be good at it right away when you first join unless youre going after a senior position. What you really need to show is the ability to learn, and the ability to code with a team and communicate with others. Team experience is very important for the behavioral interview
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>>109635186
four hundred thousand cs graduates on a job market that only increased its h1b hires.
see pathetic shmucks like >>109634721 who only got into the field to continue being agoraphobe losers.
you should kill yourself NOW.
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I’m not afraid of people I just don’t particularly like them
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>>109639506
Is 38 still a "young man"?
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>>109593250
Nah, you're just uneducated and incompetent. Also >>>/pol/
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>>109612978
/g/tards are clueless. electrical and cs are the two biggest pathways jeets get visas.
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7 months of unemployment.
I think I am still safe
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>>109595182
>post brought to you by india
good morning saar
>seem really cliquish like you can't make friends with them
they just hate dark skinned people like you
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>>109640649
i'm at 4
gonna see how long i can go
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>>109640733
im at 18 but it ends next month
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>>109632347
got rejected in a single day
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>>109635959
It looks simple, but once you get into it, you realize how many fucking things you can't even finish in time.
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>>109635959
>Facebook only has 1 app so how many programmers would they need?
lol facebook has instagram, whatsapp, messenger, and a bunch of other shit. Each of these apps has a bunch of teams of around probably 100+ engineers total getting paid 300-500k each to keep them alive and working. You try making instagram and see just how much work it is, then scale it to millions of monthly users.

Better yet, download the app and start looking through it. It seems simple. Click all the buttons, then imagine how much effort you would need to go through to develop that feature. Then add them all together. Do you even have an idea of how you would develop the core application (setting up a profile, posting images, following users, refreshing your home feed?). And make it super low latency. Your application should be able to refresh the homescreen of tens of thousands of users, concurrently, while delivering less than 2s refresh times (meta developed graphql just for this btw). Okay now once you've done that, move on to stories. Then messenger, and make sure to add stickers and gifs and video / audio / location messages and end to end encryption. Then make all of these sub apps work together, so that you can reply to someone's story, or share a post in a group chat.
Good luck making even getting started on reels (lol)

I had a boomer like you ask me IRL if I could code an instagram clone for $30k when he heard I was a software developer. lmao.
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>>109640918
Oh and I forgot to mention you also need to make these apps available for:
>macos / windows (c++, js / ts)
>ios (swift, objc for legacy code)
>android (kotlin, java for legacy code) (no you can't develop ios and android at the same time, flutter is shit)
>web (js / ts)
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Not unemployed yet, but I'm gonna quit my 10 year IT specialist full time job soon without any new job lined up and no idea what other profession or job I'd rather do.
Old job paid 3€ above minimum wage and ruined me mentally in general.
Good idea? Bad idea?
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>>109640980
hope you have enough saving to NEET
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>>109641114
Always been a poorfag and I couldn't build up any significant savings (<5k) with a wage this low, so I'm hoping for unemployment benefits.
Hoping for unemployment benefits. Otherwise, I dunno. An hero or suck dick for money.
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>>109641159
>unemployment benefits twice
Apologies, I'm a bit smooth brained right now.
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>>109641159
>>109641165
>unemployment benefits
only works if you're a eurofag
and even then its a pittance
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> don't have employment history
> can't get hired because no employment history
> can't get employment history because not getting hired
> do that for a decade
> end up as a highly educated neet
feels like I am a monk cut off from the real world.
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>>109641419
1. get a degree and an internship
2. have some projects to show and get a job at a shitty small company (only works in a good economy)
3. know a guy
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>>109641419
have you tried linkedin?
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>back to job hunting
>apply to job I think I'm perfect for
>"we're going with candidates who are a better match"

Never mind, I just remembered why I stopped job hunting after months of this bullshit. Fuck this shit. Off to kill myself
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>>109641427
no will that help?
>>109641422
1. like I said I already do
2. I did even sold me well under my value given the fact that I did the exact same shit work for free once before and would have required zero training still refusal
3. I do not
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>>109640980
How the fuck did you survive mentally for 10 years there? Did you even try to job hop? Did you just do the same shit those 10 years without learning how to automate anything or pivot into a better role?
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>>109593194
I wish I were a woman, I really fucking hate that I was born male
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>>109641386
I actually am one.

>>109641480
>How the fuck did you survive mentally for 10 years there?
Very badly with lots of depression, almost daily an hero thoughts, possibly a good chunk of dissociation and "just powering through."
Substance abuse too, of course.
>job hop
I wish I was a person for that.
But the job also drains every single bit of energy I have, so no energy to go job hunting and it won't get better until I quit or get fired.
>automate or better role
I tried, but my work isn't appreciated. The stuff I (officially) automated saved us a lot of manual work (about a full time equivalent each month), but the stuff I automated for myself only makes it appear like I don't do work apparently, because my desk is in a place where everybody immediately sees me and can see my screen too. No wfh and regular 9-5 despite a dire need for non-conservative working hours.
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>left my first Start Up on bad terms because they didn't pay me (The Start Up was dying, and the founder was trying to save up as much money as possible)
>can't list that Start Up as part of my resume or the founder will make up fake shits about my record
>job interviewers asked why is there a gap in my resume
A waste of fucking 7 months, and I only got paid for a month of salary.
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What's the point of connections in linkedin? I'm not going to add anyone I knew in school since they're not even in my field of work and 2nd of all I was never even friends with them but if I were it would make no sense to add your friends as connections in linkedin. So what's the point of connections? It makes no sense. Are you supposed to just send requests to random people in your work field?
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>>109626893
I made a Linkedin account. I have no experience but I've got a pretty good portfolio. When I apply for jobs in my area I just get screened every single time, none of them have ever looked at my portfolio website, I can tell because there have never been any site visits from my region. But a few people in my country and the neighbouring country have randomly visited it and gone through it in detail, I can only assume they have found it through Linkedin. No one actually got in touch but I can see they spent a decent amount of time on the site and read through everything, so I appreciate that at least even if it didn't amount to anything. Better than some HR roastie CUNT who just deletes the application immediately because I don't have prior experience.

The problem is, the jobs I am applying for are very entry level and well suited to me, in fact I am over-skilled for them. Yet I don't even get looked at. So I may speculate that people are checking me out and considering me for jobs I'm maybe OK for at a stretch, but passing because I have no experience. Which is fair and reasonable. But the jobs I should be able to walk into easily are not even looking at my portfolio, just getting filtered right away. Very irritating.
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>>109641720
as someone who was nine years experience, before my linkedin account got hacked, i never found a single fucking job on linkedin. never got a reply to any application. shit site only used by indians and boomers.
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>>109641728
It is an absolutely disgusting site. Really really bad. But I understood that is what tech people do is make a Linkedin account so I made one. Never actually used it.

Once I get a job or give up on tech I'm gonna shitpost hard on it, will be very funny. See how long until I get banned.
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>>109641728
has*, hurrr

>>109641862
I wouldn't say disgusting, but it's full of the dumbest fucking articles that feel like they were written by aliens trying to imitate how humans talk without understanding humanity, and the people who actually write and talk like that. Real bizarre. Companies do look up your name online so you might as well make an account and put up some skills or stuff you've made, but beyond that I wouldn't bother with it.
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>>109641584
What third world shithole do you live in that you can't sue for unpaid wages?
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>>109641890
The Pol Pot one.
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WAZAAAA.

I said, WAZAAAA.

WAZAAAAAAA.

Is anyone out there? Is this real? Can you hear me?
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>>109625058
plc programming and OT related stuff.
it's piss easy and you only need to go to the right uni first, I did :^]
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> after 80 days
> not 1 rejection
> but 10 at once all for the same position
someone seems to hate me
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>>109640918
I could make an instagram clone without the bloat.
>no reels
>no categories
>no algorithm
The problem isn't coding. It's monetization (+money) and moderation (-money).
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>code something
>post about it on LinkedIn instead of /g/
why didn't I think of this earlier?
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>>109643128
you want to be bombarded by indians in the comments?
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>>109643168
I'll just do like on X and mute them all
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finally getting a >100K offer after all this time and suffering
goodbye /utwg/, hope it lasts
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>>109643315
congrats nigger
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>>109643315
Good job anon.
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>>109643315
>after all this time
how much time?
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It's been a while Anon. I don't remember the last time we spoke. I thought taking a break from the internet and focusing on my job search would help renew my spirit.

I spent the past month on my chromebook applying to 8 jobs per day. I would wake up in the morning, shower, and head to McDonalds for the McCafe and muffin combination meal. Then I would sit in McDonalds all day while applying and searching for new positions.

Mommy won't stop badgering me and Daddy keeps bragging about what a success he was at my age. It always stings. As soon as they open their mouths the hair on my neck raises and my heart stops.

I really thought I'd have a better chance while I worked diligently job hunting. I didn't know it was a scam. My spirit feels more broken then before Anon. My parents are just as mean. I feel like it was a mistake to try. I should have just accepted my failure.
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>>109644758
just... don't care about what your parents say? as a general rule, don't care about what anyone says. the world can feel very cruel you if you're too sensitive



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