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*besides being a pedophile?
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>>109605208
If it breaks you can fix it
you can modify the absolute hell out of it
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>>109605208
It's not Windows.
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>you can modify it way more than windows
>modify everything from the bootloader to the graphics manager. it's your OS, do what you want with it
>doesn't have a shit ton of bloatware pre-installed (depends on your distro, but even then you easily can uninstall anything you don't want)
>terminal is actually usable for day-to-day tasks, unlike on windows
>doesn't cost any money to obtain a copy
>tends to make you more invested in learning about tech, thus making you more a competent computer user overall
Windows is for people that use whatever OS comes pre-installed on their computer because they aren't even aware that it's possible to replace the OS (let alone how to actually install a different OS).
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>>109605396
>>you can modify it way more than windows
cool, but why do I need that? I legit have no reason for that.
>>modify everything from the bootloader to the graphics manager. it's your OS, do what you want with it
again, I appreciate that, but I don't need that
>>doesn't have a shit ton of bloatware pre-installed (depends on your distro, but even then you easily can uninstall anything you don't want)
based, indeed.
>>terminal is actually usable for day-to-day tasks, unlike on windows
scary
>>doesn't cost any money to obtain a copy
based, indeed.
>>tends to make you more invested in learning about tech, thus making you more a competent computer user overall
eh, yeah not a negative, but that is slightly tinker tranny coded.

>Windows is for people that use whatever OS comes pre-installed on their computer because they aren't even aware that it's possible to replace the OS (let alone how to actually install a different OS).
true, true. I mean I know how to install windows and linux, the only thing I could come up with is ownership, if things get worse and you have to pay a subscription fee or something.
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just because
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>>109605208
the only reason to use linux is to use it like internet explorer for TempleOS
every other reason is bs and BSD/modded Windows 7 is better
>I am a lazy FUCK and won't waste my time modding some stupid OS
OpenBSD or Ubuntu are good then
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What >>109605396 said.

>>109605446
If you don't find any use case, then it isn't for you, and that's fine. For me, it was because it gave me more control over my machine, and I was fed up with Microsoft bullshit. The last straw was driver-related problems. Changed to Linux, and I haven't had a driver-related issue since.
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>>109605446
>>>you can modify it way more than windows
>cool, but why do I need that? I legit have no reason for that.
If you don't want to modify your OS and just drive it stock, that's fair enough. The problem with Windows though is that if you DO want to modify it, then fuck you. You use Windows the way Microsoft wants you to. It's not your OS, it's Microsoft's OS.
>>terminal is actually usable for day-to-day tasks, unlike on windows
scary
I don't know what you mean by 'scary'? Do you mean that the terminal is scary to use? (It's not. It's just a skill, like any other skill, like learning knitting or some shit. You spend enough time doing it and eventually it's easy, just like any other skill).
>if things get worse and you have to pay a subscription fee or something.
If Microsoft started forcing Windows users to pay a subscription fee for Windows, I feel that maybe around 10-15% of people would switch to Linux. But the other 85%-90% would just accept it and treat it like another internet media subscription, since they probably already have 4 or 5 goymedia subscriptions like Netflix, Disney+, etc. Especially if Microsoft marketed it competently. They could do it in stages.
>introduce some cool ass new feature
>lock it behind a monthly subscription
>market the shit out of it to give all the normalniggers fomo
>slowly start locking already-existing features behind a monthly subscription
>10 years pass by
>now the entire Windows OS is locked behind a monthly subscription
>or maybe there's a free version, but you get no security updates kek
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>>109605208
>not being a pissboy pissy goycattle slave
>more descriptive error messages
>keep your money since microsoft charges for licenses and will soon move to OS As A Service
>have way more of your very expensive memory and hard drive space available to you since linux doesnt run 6 GB worth of memoryslop and doesnt take up 102 GB of drive space on a fresh install
>run git and make natively
>keep more of your precious time by not waiting an hour every week for updoots to finish
>anything you might actually need windows for can be done in a CT or VM running on linux
should I go on?
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>>109605208
There's nothing else worth using, besides BSD, which has less hardware and software support
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>>109605208
>real reasons to use Linux
because Win7 is dead.
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Windows is essentially a redundant OS these days. If it was standard practice to sell computers as 'clean slates' (hard drive is completely empty with no pre-installed OS) then all the normalcattle would be able to choose their OS for the first time in their whole life. How many of them would still choose Windows for $140 or Mac OSX for $1gorillion, instead of Linux for $0? The only thing keeping Windows alive is the fact that it's the default option for laptop manufacturers to pre-install on their models, as some kind of "service" to the user (as if the user can't figure out how to acquire their own OS).
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>>109605396
Why should I spend more time customising and modding my OS instead of doing something productive, like developing something?
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>>109605662
You can do both. If you don't want to customize your OS, you can just use the many out of the box options Linux offers, or just stay on Windows.
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>>109605610
TempleOS bucko
it has a strict requirement of x86_64 CPU, >512Meg RAM, PS/2-only kb+ml, IDE/SATA HDDs (unless you want to rape your SSD) in IDE/Legacy/Compatibility mode, a screen with minimu 640x480 and 4bit colors, internal speakers
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>>109605662
That's not the point. The point is that on Windows, it's impossible to modify your OS. You don't have the freedom to do it, regardless of whether you want to or not. On Linux, you have the option of modifying it to your hearts content, regardless of whether you want to or not. That's objectively an advantage that Linux has over Windows.
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>>109605733
Several individuals have modified Windows 7, Vista and XP to accept newer software or different GUIs.
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>>109605673
Is it just UI customisations, or granualar tweaks under the hood so that every aspect of the OS works better, like webpages loading faster.
>>109605733
If I have windows and macOS, what Linux distro is vastly different where I can try something new out and learn something along the way...
Is CachyOS really as good as everyone says it is?
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>>109605742
Have they been able to modify the bootloader, kernel, graphical manager, display manager, window manager and userland? If not, then they only customised Windows 7, Vista and XP. Not full on modification.
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>>109605574
>I don't know what you mean by 'scary'? Do you mean that the terminal is scary to use? (It's not. It's just a skill, like any other skill, like learning knitting or some shit. You spend enough time doing it and eventually it's easy, just like any other skill).
Thank you anon, I have to admit that sounds cool and is probably a nice skill to have.
>I feel that maybe around 10-15% of people would switch to Linux
That doesn't sound like a lot, do you really think the rest will just accept it "IF" that happens? Sad.
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I don't support companies that keep making worse products while abusing American workers only to fall on their faces again and again. I hate M$ on a fundamental level me and you are not the same\
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>>109605772
I only know about display manager and windows manager to be 100% modifiable
for bootloader you can use grub or any other ones, though the local one can boot other systems, or at least other windows versions (I prefer grub so I never bothered)
for kernel, parts of it have been leaked before, but I don't know about any mods for it that explicitly say that they used code from these leaks
and if by userland you mean modifying how programs interact with windows, then yes, there do exist mods that make windows 10/11 programs work on windows 7
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>>109605760
>what Linux distro is vastly different where I can try something new out and learn something along the way
Good question. The answer depends on how experienced you are with using Linux and your confidence with using a computer in general.

>I've never used Linux a single day in my life.
I would recommend something simple, such as Linux Mint or PopOS. While they're both very similar to Windows, they serve as good 'beginner distros'. You can toy around with the terminal and try to learn some commands, while still having the graphical package manager, device manager, etc as a kind of safety net.

>I've used Ubuntu/Mint/PopOS a little, but I want to try 'real' Linux.
>OR I've only ever used Windows but I know how to use powershell and am confident with computers
Try giving Debian a go. It's a text-mode installation that requires a small amount of tech savviness to complete the install (not much at all honestly, but you might struggle with it if you've never used Linux at all before). Once you've finished installing Debian, you'll need to use the terminal to update/install packages. This is done using the 'apt' package manager. Other than that, using Debian is pretty easy. You might have to configure a few things, but there are a zillion guides on the internet for doing that.

>No, no, no. I want to try 'REAL' Linux.
Try installing vanilla Arch. You can rice it as much as you want. It's definitely more of a hobbyist distro. There are automated scripts available for installing Arch, but it's sort of a 'rite of passage' for Linux users to install Arch "the arch way" at least once in their life. You'll need to be familar with using the command-line in order to actually do that. The Arch Wiki contains a guide on installing Arch "the Arch way". It's not actually that hard, all you do is just type out a series of commands basically.

I can't comment on CachyOS sorry, as I've never personally used it. From what I've seen, CachyOS is to Arch what Ubuntu is to Debian.
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>>109605790
>I have to admit that sounds cool and is probably a nice skill to have.
Thank you. There's no reason why you can't have that skill too. Just start small. Try learning how to use the cp command to copy-paste a file. Then try learning the mv command to cut-paste files. Eventually you'll be a pro. You can do it, anon. It just takes practice.
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>>109605790
>do you really think the rest will just accept it "IF" that happens?
Based on what I've seen of people as I've gone through life, and the things that I've witnessed: Yes, I wholeheatedly believe that more than 4 out of 5 people would accept (not be happy with, but would accept) being forced to pay a monthly subscription fee to use their computer. Especially if it was mission crept in, by locking one or two features behind a monthly fee, then lock away some more features, and keep slowly doing that until the entire OS is locked behind a monthly fee.

If they locked Windows behind a monthly paywall all in one go, I feel like there would be enough of a backlash from a vocal enough minority that Microsoft may have to rescind that decision. But if they did it slowly, through mission creep, then yeah I think they'd get away with it pretty easily.

Most people really are cattle, man. Like I said: Based on what I've seen as I've gone through life, most people just accept it and let themselves get taken advantage of, as long as the person or entity taking advantage of them do it incrementally.
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- you can literally use a core 2 duo from 2006 as your main driver
- text based operating is objectively superior
- you can make it look however you want
- if you play old video games (before 2012), they genuinely just werk; or at least are incredibly fixable, as compared to trying to install voodoo compatibility layers on windows 11
- if you program, it's an infinitely superior experience
- if you run servers, it's an infinitely superior experience
- it's totally free, so you can take your hard drive out of an old computer and put it in a new one and it just boots up no questions asked. even a laptop drive into a tower pc
- you learn more about operating systems and computers just by using it as it doesn't abstract everything away from you
- by nature of the previous point, it doesn't really try to stop you from doing things on it like windows or mac; you never have to enable a security setting to use a usb cd reader for example

i could really go on all day
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>>109606031
>several "reasons" that make "linux", read Gentoo, be more viable than Windows in any of its forms
>lust inducing picrel
yeah, nah, win vista with ≥8GB or win xp with 4GB (3GB usable) are way better with that system
t. autism that has a Dell OptiPlex 320 for win xp gaming and win vista aero
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>>109605208
Freedom
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>>109605208
You can rename your operating system to be whatever you want, and I mean whatever you want.
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>>109605208
If you don't need specific software, are unemployed, some form of disabled and got all the time in the world? It's a great free option.
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>>109605446
I have been on Linux for little over an year now and while I barely know how to use the terminal by myself, asking AI (I know, I know) is a huge godsend. For one I got it to just write me a script to rename all my music files to the same structure (Song Number - Song Name) and now my entire library is well sorted and documented. Something that would have taken me forever to do manually, so much so I put it off for at least 20 years.
My favorite thing is just being able to update any and every program through it. I made a bunch of aliases and whatnot to speed things up even more. New firefox version? Type in dl firefox, and boom, done.
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>>109605208
better development tools
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people keep mentioning the unemployed part and I wonder if that has to do with unpaid foss devs or whatever extreme tiling window manager (niri, hyprland) ricing on unixporn
the only guy I know who uses Linux other than myself is employed with Qualcomm
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>>109605208
Freedom, performance, independence, being baited by retarded OPs, reliability, cost efficiency, security
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>>109605396
>tends to make you more invested in learning about tech, thus making you more a competent computer user overall
I agree. I tried Linux Mint and now I want to try Gentoo.
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>>109607126
the only guy i know that uses linux is at work



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