Our government is a joke
DEI for slower bitrates.
>>109608001based and snailcat pilledlets slow down I'm feeling sleepy
>>109608001lmao trump sucks cox
Cheap gigabit internet? No, that's not The American Way™.
>>109608001you voted for this
Fast internet?That's for pinko commies and queermo sissy frenchmen. You ain't one of those, are ya boy?
>>109608001I wish Lincoln had just let all the dumbasses secede permanently. Having them drag the rest of the country down for the last hundred and fifty years was not worth holding onto their cotton fields and fisheries.
Reminder that Romanians are enjoying gigabit internet for $8-$10/month.
>>109608027AI companies and data centers are signing contracts with ISPs that prevent them from using the same lines they use to service households in the hope that it won't cause outages or bottlenecks.
The US might not survive 2 more years of Trump's Retard Circus (100% Kosher).
>>109608001No one needs more than 10mbps unless they're retarded enough to buy garbage with preinstalled residential proxies. Their original definition for boradband was bang on.
>>109608066>More connectivity means less internet for usI hope this is bait, in which case, congrats. You got me.
>>109608001Gigabit is still considered "fast" in 2026? I thought that was the absolute bare minimum for an internet connection today.
>>109608001Sure am glad we fell for the demonrats in the basements meme and voted to drain the swamp.
Hold on. Sounds familiar.
>>109608001KEK
i think in europe we have higher speeds cause we're all cramped into high density living, i can imagine in the USA it's not economically worth it to pull 800km of fiber optic cables to some rural arkansas farmer
>>109608001You need fiber networks for gigabit broadband speeds, but fiber networks can't be easily (or cheaply) deployed in the middle of nowhere in central US.
>>109608001What "news" site is that? is there a more neutral source? what a fucking joke of a news website
>>109608001Imagine a First World country having slower internet speeds than Third World countries.
>>109608001>on today's episode of "yuropeon doesnt understand that his postage stamp-sized country's infrastructure doesnt scale up to continents"...On the off chance that you ARE an American, you losers are always threatening to move to other countries - why not actually, y'know, not lie for once in your pointless lives?
>>109608009DEI for poor corporations
have the speed you voted for
>>109608001>this confuses the amerifat
>>109608428good hopefully the thirdies will stay there then
lol, i like onion articles
>>109608001Is this a gamer thing? Can't think of any incident of 300Meg service not being enough.
>>109608480yeah I can use inspect element too, mr. anonymous.
>>109608009Then why is this happening in the "get rid of the DEI" administration, and undoing a goal set by the DEI administration?
>>109608418It's Ars Technica.
>>109608001has there ever been a more obvious example of corporate bribery? they were obviously paid off.
>>109608559I'd trust random-easteuro-blog.wordpress.com over Arse Keknica.The screen being less than 90% ads would be gravy.
>>109608001This is called biased reporting.Biden admin wanted FCC to only give funding to Gigabit cable companies that give 1Gb down / 500 Mbps up. There was one main reason for this. To exclude Starlink, and the stall Rural internet. They previously cancelled Starlink's contract they wont with Rural internet bidding with 100Mbps/20Mbps up claiming it wasn't possible or that its fake. The same admin a few months later after cancelling the contract later had to begged Musk for Internet for Ukraine and then a year later accused Musk's Starlink of being a monopoly. "Tech is fake! Starlink fake!!" -> "You're not getting funding because its fake!!!" -> "WTF MUSK WHY ARE YOU NOT FUNDING UKRAINE'S WAR BY YOURSELF!!!!! YOU'RE A TRAITOR TO UKRAINE!!!!" -> "WTF STARLINK IS A MONOPOLY!!! FAKE!!!!" Same fucking person that cancelled Starlink contract for claiming its fake claims they need it for Ukraine and that its a monopoly (wont admit it works). All within a FUCKING YEAR. They upped the requirement from 100Mbps/20mbps to 1Gbps/500Mbps. This is not feasable technology for bridging the rural internet (the whole fucking point of the Rural Digital Funds program). Starlink now has ~30-40Mbps up and ~300 Mbps down. It has 8 million US customers now. So even after cancelling subsidy to Starlink because Musk went against the covid narrative and transgender narrative and the communist narrative, it still succeeded. So now the gov is rolling back the 1Gbps/500Mbps requirement. Its fake political theatre. The original 100Mbps/20Mbps was thought to be hard challenge on its own and then when Musk delivered Starlink, they cancelled the funding immediately and raised the barrier. This isnt a 10 year moving goal, it was a yearly moving goal that was modified right as the program was being implemented. You people are being played by politics
>>109608633Thanks for typing this out, and for reminding me how much I hate libnigs
>>109608633>This is not feasable technology for bridging the rural internetIf they manage to have electricity and landline phones then it's feasible to wire them with fiber.
>>109608720>libnigsGotta start calling them that, because without their infinity little invaders they've brought into White countries over the last 20 years, they'd never get elected again.
>>109608736Dumbass, before Starlink rural dont even have dialup, let alone dsl or fiber. You cannot bring 1Gbps/500Mbps to rural areas. Trust me, I was that person. Fiber being 1 mile from my property. The cable company refused to bring the line unless I pay $30K. Fuck that. I'm paying for that. That's 20 years worth of Starlink subscription. I'd rather pay Starlink $120/m for 300Mbps. And thats $30K + $200/monthly. And I wont even own that line. So its $30K i have to subsidize the company. If the companies want gov to subsidize that for each customer, I will never support that initiative.
>>109608001what does this mean?i had 2.5 gigabit for years
>>109608754This is somehow not the ISPs fault despite raking in millions, if not billions, of your tax dollars for the sole purpose of running that shit to your house.
>>109608801Cable companies have gotten hundreds of billions of dollars during the last Obama era funding. Rural internet did not improve a single bit. It was all going to inner city. The only thing that has changed for the better in the Rural internet over the last 50 years of Rural internet is old GEO satellite (which brought dog shit dialup speed internet, but it works for very basic text only email reading atleast) and Starlink (modern day REAL broadband). Now entire rural American (infact the entire world) now has access to high speed, low latency broadband internet. Starlink is godsend for everyone in the world. The biden FCC rule is specifically made by tribal politics.
>>109608441I found out while a year ago; you have to still pay american taxes unless you renounce being an american citizen. That's on top of taxes you'd pay in your new place.
>>109608031dang hecking right i did, liberal
>>109608801ISPs are some of the biggest scammers in existence. They should all be eliminated and the Internet abolished—AI replaces Internet anyway.
>>109608001>>109608048Here in glorious California, we all have cheap, gigabit internet. Wait, sorry, no we don't. We can't even keep our normal service up.https://abc7.com/post/vandalized-fiber-lines-cause-verizon-service-outage-thousands-southern-california-customers/19653900/
>>109608633>>109608720>>109608744i love honorary jews like eloni love israeldemonrats are too antisemiticwe need DEI gibs for all jewish companies that rake in billions while providing lower speeds than third world countries, because they deserve it
>>109608889I wouldn't even bother replying to themAmericans just deserve it at this pointIf they want to cry about how it's the libnigs fault they are tying the noose around their neck and they don't have any choice but to hang themselves to help the poor corporations then I say let them
>>109608480better than having 5000 mohammeds as neighbors
>>109608889>>109608929Who are you trying to convince with your little Reddit-esque botpost, anon?
>>109608754Where I lived before the municipally owned power company installed the fiber. They just strung it on the power poles/in the conduit they already owned. It was dirt cheap for them to install. Anything is feasible if you just don't leave it up to bullshit private corporations.
>>109608557Because they believe in preferential treatment for corporations.
how are they wrong most do not need gigabitof course i have gigabit but i am not most
it happened quietly but american internet speeds are, on average, in the top 10 of the world now. wasn't all that long ago that the ISPs were taking the money and running and stopthecap was screaming and people were pondering the european 'local loop unbundling' strategies to try to figure out why the usa was so far behind and what it could do to catch up..at some point i eventually got (multiple offerings now) fiber in my rinky dink suburb and apparently so did a lot of people. Anyway this is all to say that my concern about the government trying to enforce an internet speed minimum has gone from an issue that concerns me directly to apparently a niche issue nationwide. Did the legislation attempts and mostly-embezzled grants to the ISPs help? idk but it's kind of difficult to care anymore.
>>109608959Municipalities should be banned from competing in the market—they just drive prices up for private companies to do business.
>>109608048the south would've remain overwhelmingly black lel
>>109608959Tax payer money isnt free. The gov is the worst allocator of money. Everyone knows that, thats why its running a $40 trillion dollar debt. Its the reason your burgers now cost $10 instead of $1. The $40 trillion debt means they are continuing flodding the market with fake money to lower the value of the real money. Hence everything costs more.
>>109608972Rural internet was holding back, and now Rural internet is fast or faster than average city broadband. Thanks primarily and exclusive to Starlink. Which the Biden gov tried to kill (just as Starlink was being rolled out). Fuck the biden niggers
>>109608972The US really lucked out by loving TV so much. Everyone has coax to their door and DOCSIS has worked well to push decent bandwidth over it without replacing the cable plant. Other countries were less TV-obsessed and got stuck with shit xDSL until they poured massive amounts of cash into fiber networks.
>>109608987Correct—private industry always settles on the true and fair cost for all goods and services: if you cannot afford it then you don't need it—end of story.
>>109608096Uninronically yes. Splices add attenuation and gives a way to access what is now VERY critical and expensive infrastructure for the AI titanshttps://www.fierce-network.com/broadband/hyperscalers-build-fiber-data-centers-not-rural-americans
>>109608889>>109608929you are allowed to reject both you disingenuous ratthat's actually what everyone with a brain does, the goy theater is over
>>109609016It sorta-kinda happened here in Australia too, but on a much smaller scale. Those with cable telly were ultra-smug with their multi-megabit connections when everyone else was suck with 512kbit ADSL, or worse, still on 56k dial-up back in the 2000s.ADSL was starting to catch up - and indeed, exceeded in places - with cable by the late 2000s, with 25Mbit ADSL starting to appear in the top tiers.Then the commushits got into power, nationalised the internet, speeds crashed back to 10Mbit, prices doubled overnight, and we've only just started to recover since the coof - the commushits used it as an excuse to put us another trillion dollars into debt.
>>109609063I remember reading news few years ago that Starlink was eating into NBN subscriber base LMAO. They wanted more gov subsidies
>>109608540wtf are you on about>>109608942wrong country silly
>>109608987The government and private sector are both inconsistent at allocation. They're both frequently led by morons. The difference is one of accountability. If a company spends poorly too many times, they'll have to downsize their operations or go out of business entirely. But people elect the same political parties (if not politicians) over and over despite their piss-poor leadership. Unlike companies, the politicians have the liberty of continually and arbitrarily raising their own debt limits rather than buckling down and being responsible. It will eventually implode though, because other countries will refuse to let the USA act the petty princess as soon as they are able.
>>109609073I wouldn't be surprised. If you're more than 40km out of a city, Starlink is a FAR better option than NBN.Hell, I have a mate who only lives about 20km out of Melbourne, and even he went for Starlink instead.
>>109609265The more rural you are, the faster your internet. Eventually the rural will get gigabit downloads, but upload speed is still limited due to bandwidth allocation limits set by FCC and also by regional country's gov. The reason FCC is removing the nonsense 1Gbps/500Mbps download requirement to qualify as "broadband" is because their own other spectrum requirements prevent sat tech from being qualified as broadband. Effectively handcuffing sat providers through rules/regulations
Where the fuck do I get isp and internet related news since dsl reports shut down?
>>109609373its harder sometimes the "the register" picks it up but idk looking for the same thing
>>109608557>He fell for the propaganda
>>109609106I think he's implying the numbers are edited.
>>109608001>our
>>109608001something something sour grapesall this does is keep the baseline for the term "broad band" to including 100d20u instead of 1000d500u, however they are still going to move forward.>Section 706 requires the FCC to determine whether broadband is being deployed “on a reasonable and timely basis” to all Americans. If the answer is no, the US law says the FCC must “take immediate action to accelerate deployment of such capability by removing barriers to infrastructure investment and by promoting competition in the telecommunications market.”basically if you live in the middle of bum fuck nowhere, no gigabit for you, move to where the internet is.
also alsoI live inna woods and I have gigabit internet, 1000d/1000u speeds. My closest neighbor is a farm about 10 miles up the road. Brought to me by Donald J Trump. Sucks to suck I guess. I pay $60 a month for it too. Seethe faggots.
>>109609602We updated to 100d20u few years back, but because SpaceX won the rural broadband subsidy program, the Biden admin denied SpaceX and then rewrote the rule to exclude them by making the minimum 1000Mbps dl and 500Mbps up. 30% of America lives in the rural area. Its not the return to keeping baseline 100d20u, the baseline was never implemented in the first place because Biden admin didnt want SpaceX to win.
>>109608001Isn't this net neutrality?
>>109608852Don't forget to enlist bozo.
>>109609057The fact that you look at either of those posts and somehow think it's supporting the government, or "one" from "both", is really, really funny
>>109609336It's really curious how things like this is what throwing fibre all over the fucking place was supposed to fix, but it's increasingly looking like it's not going to materialise.The parallels with copper Ethernet are uncanny: it's essentially maxxed out at 10Gbit - and even that's a bit "overclocked", with most people opting for 2.5 or 5Gbit NBASE-T to keep heat and power usage down - whereas wi-fi keeps doubling or tripling its speed every generation. As a result, it will kill NBASE-T next generation, and 10GBASE-T the generation after.
>>109609063>disingenuous lies and half truthsthe conservatives decided to make the national broadband network spend 11+ billion bailing out the telcos stranded assets for the profits of their boomer telstra privatization shareholder voters promising that it would be "faster cheaper sooner". except the copper phone network was absolutely run into the ground from decades of no investment and worthless for high speed internet, forcing it to all be eventually rebuilt with fttp anyway.also as much as richfags were smug about how fast their 10Mbit+ Telstra Bigpond/Optusnet HFC connections were back in the day they fail to mention the ridiculous 3GB a month download limit for ~$70 plus paying $10 for every additional GB used (at least Optus capped you at 128kbps). 256/512/1.5M ADSL was slow but at least unlimited data became a thing.
>>109608001>Our government
>>109610013>the outright lies of the communistDownload limits were dead and gone by about 2003 except in the most bargain basement of terrible ISPs (such as Dodo), hence why you think this was common.Shaping went on a little longer, but again, was rarely below 4-5Mbps for anything outside Dolebludgers Ditch, and only really hurt if you were using a top-tier 25Mbps plan - if you were on a 12 or something, you'd hardly notice - we weren't streaming HD video in 2006.Now, to be completely fair to you, NBN sorta-kinda finished off the very last of the garbage ISPs who still shaped - but since internet access prices basically doubled between 2007 and 2009, it wasn't worth the price we paid.You, as a Liebor NPC, from a long line of Liebor NPCs, don't understand the concept of ever paying for anything - everything you have is either subsidised or stolen - so can't relate.
>boring utility fiber cables>lasts 100 years safely underground, possibly even more and all you need to do is upgrade the modems every couple of decades. guaranteed bandwidth.>based epic i heckin love science elon satellite>runs out of fuel, re-enters and burns up (damaging the ozone layer) every 5 years, better keep paying to launch more goy, speeds will crash down if more people used the network, probably the first thing that gets wiped out in a war.
I'm glad I moved to California
>>109608001I'm stuck with comcast's 1gb/100mb. A few miles away there's 5gb/gb for the same price.
>>109610069>3GB download limits are fine! there's nothing on the internet worth downloading anyway.congrats on outing yourself as a proud unthinking giganormie goycattle who never downloaded shit on p2p during the golden age of internet piracy.
>>109610072This is a VERY antisemitic post, please watch yourself.
>>109610122>ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EVEN REMOTELY RESEMBLING what was saidThis is how leftists "argue". Literally everything that ever comes out of their oral sex holes is lies.This is why you ignore them - or even better, line them up for "lice treatments".
>>109610122Oh, you are that fucking stupid. Posts like this are why your entire family got replaced by one single streetshitter with 6 weeks of ESL as his "qualifications".
>>109608557almost like DEI was a smokescreen and the current party of retards would have been fine with it if it included a clause to let them insider trade.
>>109610145I guess it makes sense you're obsessed with oral sex given the entire nursing home of rotting boomer cocks you suck off every day faggot.
>>109608001Better speeds would require l9jg term infrastructure investment. That doesn't make line go up. Line MUST go up.
>>109608633Fiber to residence should be standard by now. One of the other full retard things this admin has done is repealed Internet Service being a utility. So it gets zero public funding, anymore. You got played jut as hard.
>>109608754>Dumbass, before Starlink rural dont even have dialup,Damn you're stupid. Like you think rural America are cavemen who didn't have the phone until the year 1998. They had infrastructure, the problem is that it sucked and the companies who were sucking up tax money to implement it were pocketing the cash and delivering the bare minimum.
>>109610186fibre is gay woke and transstarlink is epic based and for the win!ok we're done here.
>>109610190Yes, you're retarded. The world before had phone that barely worked. The same problem of bringing fiber to rural existed before the internet as well. Of burying copper lines, pole towers, and maintaining them for few people when it costs tens of thousands per year to maintain per pole. Per node. World before the internet didnt have genies teleporting and startrek beam tech that repaired everything for free with zero cost.
>>109610122>there's nothing on the internet worth downloading anyway.anything worth watching is on Foxtel cable. praise NewsCorp.
>>109610201>Yes, you're retarded. The world before had phone that barely worked.Damn you're stupid, like you think landline phone still had operators that were moving physical connections. It didn't "Barely work", copper phone lines have been in every rural neighborhood since the 50s. You've eaten retard pills and read some book written by redditors about how everyone who lives 10 minutes outside of a metropolitan city still lives in tents and beats their food with clubs. Rural internet was possible as far back as DSL and cable was being rolled out. It's the same amount of money as running copper lines to run coax. Read a fucking book.
>>109610186Internet Service being a utility means government controls the the rates, gov applies limitations, gov forces standardizations. There's no room or incentive to innovate for private companies. Gov cannot magically teleport wires to every rural home
>>109610186i assume that was intended for rural areas, where putting down fiber would be expensive compared to the people getting it.plus you can trust isps to not be turbo kikes and pocket billions for fiber they never put down. which theyve done multiple times already.
Use case for gigabit internet? Just stream everything, use ze cloud gaming services
>>109610214You live in a fantasy. People back then barely had phone let alone internet. Kids walked to school a mile or more daily. You dont know reality, you live in a fictional tiktok world where everyone had fiber and highspeed internet all the time.
>>109610218>expensive lolfiber is cheaper to implement than copper or coax.
>>109610168And now it's just going to loop, like all leftist NPCs. It's too bad you aren't one of our demoncraps - at least they're funny.But you Ausfag leftists are exactly like niggers: the have the same 5 pre-programmed responses for literally everything, because your IQs average 70.Anyway, final (You), hope you get stabbed by a mudslime, and bleed out waiting 4 days for treatment.
>>109609546Do mutts really see gigabit speeds and think it's fake lmao
>>109610233>telstra refuses to upgrade their network unless they get given a monopoly on all internet infrastructure for decades>optus refuses to take part given how badly they got fucked over by telstra sniping their hfc rollout>labor government says no and start nbn project>liberals get in and intentionally sabotage nbn by making it take on unnecessary debt for useless assets, intending to deny labor a legacy and protecting newscorp's cable tv investments from the rising threat of foreign streaming tv companies.>wtf how could labor have fucked the nbn?
>>109610227>You live in a fantasy. People back then barely had phone let alone internet. https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/dec/coh-phone.htmlhttps://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial/tables/time-series/coh-phone/phone-tab.txt>Homes without telephone service in 1980>7%I know you're probably an Indian and are confusing America with your benchod medieval society that only recently widely adopted the toilet, but America has had widespread Phone service since the early 1920s. yes, even in rural America. They didn't "barely had phone let alone internet". 7% of houses didn't have a phone line. Landline adoption was more widespread than cellphone adoption today. (86% vs 93% in 1980)These are stats from the census so you can fuck off with your LARPing about being American or white. Talk about things you know like how to please village cow after bathing in its urine.
>>109610259I had some shitstain kid claim that "mobile phones were rare" in Australia in 2003.>2003:>australia population: 19 million>australia active mobile services: 14.5 millionIn the end, it turned out to be a simple case of "my parents didn't give me a phone, so nobody had them". But being a retarded zoomer, he could never actually bring himself to admit it.
>>109610282>>109610259fake, parents had pagers/cellphones. none of the kids in school had phones. especially none of the kids in 2003. the kids with phone didnt become a reality until smartphones became a thing
>>109608001>we must abolish gigabit internet because it's not neutral>we must abolish Net Neutrality because neutrality is bad and competition is goodLol.
>>109610282This is a common problem with zoomers is that they feel everyone and everything that existed before them was exclusively caveman territory. They can't internalize that modern society existed before them and, in many ways, was better than what they are experiencing right now.
>>109610305>we must establish broadband standard!!>only those with 100d20u should qualify as broadband and we want rural america to have broadband too!!!>starlink enters the game>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST FUCKASDHASIDHOP{AJEROAJSDKL:HJKOAJLSHDLKASD>IT NEEDS TO BE 10000000GIGAWATT!!!!>I HATE ELON MUSK!!! BAN STARLINK!!!!!>TRANS LIVES MATTER!!!!>SLAVE UKRAINE!!!>Rural America become Starlink country anyway even without any subsidy>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>109610282>I had some shitstain kid claim that "mobile phones were rare" in Australia in 2003.>". But being a retarded zoomer, he could never actually bring himself to admit it.you believed him? you're just as retarded, anon.>>109610312zoomers will only talk wild shit to people they think that are dumb as they are. in my experience, they're very careful about what they say to me because i am old and have zero patience left for humanity.
>>109610297That's exactly what I said, you absolute illiterate tard. How many fucking times were you dropped on your head as a baby? Either too much, or not enough.Yeah, everybody had phones in 2003. But because you idiot kids couldn't be trusted not to break it/trade it for ciggies/cram it up your arse to give your bf a kick/some other shit, YOU didn't. Understand that you, and your dexxy-addicted schoolmates, are utterly irrelevant and don't matter, even to this day. You're far too useless and stupid to ever matter.When you internalise this, you'll understand why we're replacing you with streetshitters: they stink and they're stupid as fuck - but at least you can fit 20 in a one-bedroom flat, and the fucking things can actually breeed and do a convincing impression of working.
>>109610328>American companies get billions of dollars of subsidies to set up fiber optic connections>they pocket the money>don't set up the connections>lobby the government to drop the requirement and add new regulations that make it impossible for new competitors to enter the marker>nigger miggers defend thisLol. Lmao even.
>>109610328>using 3rd world starlink satellites>instead of gigabit cablelmao. americans and communists truly are the dumbest baboon species on the planet.
what should i even do with 5gbps? the isp just gives that to mebut i don't have any hosts capable of over 1gbps in my house
>>109610343>American company gets billion dollars to setup 800K Rural residents with internet>oh wait, we're going to cancel that because they're fake>we're gonna make make fake minimum requirements now to exclude the fake internet>America company hooks up 8 million Americans instead with highspeed low latency broadband>America company bad because they hooked up without gov>American company bad because its fake>American company bad because its monopoly now without gov>meanwhile old cable companies>give us 100 billion dollars and we wont do anything>old cable companies good because Elon Musk bad>old cable companies good because they will air our political propaganda and agree with us on grooming children and castrating them
>>109608246every slightly populated area has gigabit speed options the last admin tried to connect rural to high-speed internet spent a fuck ton of money and didnt get high speed internet to a single house
>>109610360Biden admin specifically cancelled Starlink due to politics. Starlink connected 8 million rural Americans anyway. The $40 billion Biden money went to everyone else and hooked up nothing. This is tribal corruption at play
>>109608633I thank God everyday I suffered until FTTH got deployed in my area instead of going through with starlink.If you're legitimately out in a farm home, 40 acrea and a league away from any feasible infrastructure, cool have your decent dish net.Don't try to paint it like Starlink should be the choice for everyone.I'm in a moderate town of 15,000, mostly full of poor shits, 60+ miles away from either of the states major cities and we had FTTH implemented.98% of people can be given better than starlink and should expect better. Fuck off muskrat.
>>109610282>>109610297there was an entire ~5 years of feature phone domination before the iPhone 3G started getting popular in late 2008 and Android launched in 2010. And high school students certainly had them. At worst you'd have a hand-me-down Nokia brick.>Nokia 3310 series launched 2000>Motorola Razr V3 launched 2004>Sony Ericsson W800 launched 2005
>>109610354>rural people aren't real>it's ok for these companies to pocket taxpayer money and lobby the government to remove all responsibilities from them and give them more money because these other companies are also bad (for doing the exact same thing)>Elon out of nowhere
>>109610392No, i was a high school kid when ipods became a thing. Barely anyone in my school had cell phones. I was one of the few ones that even had an ipod. Iphones came shortly after, and even then it was only adopted slowly by the highschool kids first. I had Motorolla Razer in college, and even in college quite a few did not have cellphones. They didnt need one lmao. We still went outside with friends to talk instead of phones. The kids being glued to the phone became a thing right around that time period with the smartphones entering the mass market
low earth orbit satellites aren't real infrastructure. they only last 2-5 years and bandwidth is shared.
>>109610390>If you're legitimately out in a farm homeEven in the city, if you're in the outer areas of the city, you had shit dsl or crappy and oversaturated cable because it was not worth it to upgrade for the ISPs. And also had slower repair time periods during storms and winter where it would take days to get things repaired. Thats why many in our area switched from Spectrum and others to Starlink. The worse outage Starlink got was like 3-4 hours downtime a year or so ago. Snow storm dont happen in the space. Lightning dont hit sats in space. Trees dont fall over on sat in space. Animals dont chew wires in space. Floods dont destroy lines in space. Soil erosion dont destroy sats in space. Weather dont cause erosion of the sats in space. 99.9% 20-30ms uptime with 300mbps is better than many landlines, especially for those old land lines and those less resource allocated areas of the landlines on the outer edges or poorer areas.
>>109610245Their exceptionalism doesn't allow them to see the truth.
>>109610371You're right, that's why it's a good thing Trump did this. It's His Turn.
>>109610404The two richfag kids in my HSC class had a gen1 iPod and MiniDisc player respectively. I only had a chinky usb stick mp3 player with 128MB of storage and a generic Discman. But like 90% of us had shitty cheap feature phones for calling and sms.maybe your school was just poor?
>>109610411>bandwidth is sharedOnly locally within few km zone. 8 million Americans bro. Comcast has 30 million internet users. Spectrum has 30m. >2-5 yearsIts 5 years on its own, 6-8 years with fuel. But its irrelevant. Rockets launch sats daily. Its just different maintenance cycle. On land, you have to send repair guys to each individual nodes monthly across the entire line. Atleast one of the lines are borked at any given time. So there's constant maintenance going on. In space, you just replace once every few years. And the speeds/bandwidths increase over time just fine. The next gen Starlink sats are 10X bandwidth per sat. By the end of the next year, the bandwidth will 10X for the entire Starlink network.
>>109610447No, i was in a rich kids school. The problem was that adoption was slow. Dumbphones were barely a thing. I dont even remember having one in school. And never saw it. We had wired phone lines in school and some teachers had cellphones i think. But its long time ago.
>>109609621>$60 for gigabit speedRomanians have to pay only €8.25≈$9.75 a month for gigabit speeds.
>>109610434Nigger it's 2026 not 2010. "rural" areas have 12GHz backhaul'd WISP, docsis cable, fiber, ADSL2+, it's only the crotchety old fucks on the outskirts of town who live by the waste canals or cell towers who aren't getting lines trenched.
Man, I remember being a kid in the 90s in England being jealous of Americans online with cable Internet. I was stuck on pay-per-minute 56k dialup until the early 00's.What a time it was, back then. The whole Internet had a natural filter on it where you needed to be middle class and capable of basic tech troubleshooting to get online at all.Now, what a shit heap. 90% indians, chinks, weird gender people, and spastics who can barely operate TikTok and their iPhone.Shame the old Internet has no way to come back.
>>109608001human eye cannot see beyond 100mbps
>>109610371yeah youre right i forgot about that part, high speed internet via satellite is the only economically viable option isnt his v3 starlink going to have 1gb speed anyways lol its going to be funny once he starts getting into telecom with tmobile as at&t and verizon go at it themselves
>>109610472Rural UK is hooked up by Starlink and gives rural UK broadband internet now. There are prob couple hundred thousands in UK alone. I remember Australia has like close to 1 million Starlink usuers
>>109610392More like 10 years. It cannot be understated how much "prepaid plans", which arrived around '97, opened the mobile phone market to everybody in Australia.It wasn't that uncommon for someone to have two phones at the time: the shitty little digital handsets themselves were worth about $50, and the real value was in the plan that was tied to the handset - and with prepaid, the floor fell out of the bottom of the plan's value, too.The only reason kids didn't get them, and had to wait a few years, was that a $30 recharge card could be burnt through in minutes by a price-ignorant youngster. When (near/to 1/5/10 pre-specified numbers) infy-call-infy-text prepaid plans started to appear in the mid-2000s, that's when kids finally got a look-in.
>>109610485Yeah, and Starlink is global too, so its not just infrastructure for America, its for every country in the world. Its for every square mile in the world. In ocean, and in space. V2 mini in some areas can get close to 500-600Mbps currently if there arent enough users in those spaces. V3 will get Gigabit or close to it
>>109610027Saved
>>109608001>>109608133I'm an Europoor and I have an affordable 2.5Gbps with public IP
>>109610488The UK's still a bit of a shitheap when it comes to broadband speeds (they went FTTN and not being able to sustain 20Mbps in the middle of a city is not uncommon) but I moved abroad and where I live now has 1 gig standard FTTH.I remember three's network rollout being pretty amazing for the time - Unlimited 3g network access that you could run your home from reasonably well if you were renting.
China is going to destroy america. I hope they open source zero point ufo tech so we can start bending space time and leave this shit planet. Like all tech the new stuff is old. Computers and AI is old they already have agentic and sentient shit in robots. Rockets are a meme. Imagine a comfy life on Mars or another earth like planet away tens of billions of miles away, comfy.
>>109608001Remember when the telecoms were offered a few billion to give everyone fiber and then they didn't deliver? Everyone involved should be executed.
>>109610577happened twice over the last 20 years. Nothing happened. Rural internet didnt change. Only thing changing for Rural America was Starlink and the Biden admin banned Starlink and claimed it was fake. The same woman that banned Starlink and changed the rules then claimed it was a monopoly. https://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=B5164E65-5108-49D4-84E1-202DC304462Bhttps://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-reaffirms-decision-reject-starlink-application-nearly-900-million-subsidiesThe fraud is the Biden admin FCC
>>109610603Incredible the leaps and bounds you'll go through to not even acknowledge the very topic this thread is about kek
>>109608001We can't get rid of all the copper infrastructure.THINK OF THE CRACKHEADS.
can't wait until we have musknet, bezosnet, xinet, euronet, nipponnet, worstcoreanet, jeetnet, pakinet, irannet, putinnet satellites each one with thousands of individual low orbit satellites. gonna get real fun up there.
>>109610619About corruption of the Biden admin right? Because the congressed passed the mandate to bridge the digital divide for the Rural Americans. And the Biden admin gave banned the very company that would bring 8 million rural Ameriacns high speed broadband internet. And because Musk did not kowtow to covid and accepted the tranny ideology, they banned his companies and sued them for various frivolous things
>>109610635>And because $PERSON_TO_RIGHT_OF_STALIN did not kowtow to $CHILD_ABUSE ideology, they banned his companies and sued them for various frivolous thingsSeems to be the entire MO of shitlibs the past 10-15 years.
>>109610630eh, we can throw some more shit up there before we reach kessler syndrome criticality
>>109608001why do americans need to be told by daddy govt what speed their internet needs to be? can't they figure out by themselves that faster is better?
>>109610651In 1000 years, we'll reach a point where we can lift 1000 km city sized sats to space. Until then, we'll just have renders of 1000km city sized sats for our enjoyment
>>109610658very funny but i'm not suggesting this is a photograph or to scale
>>109610662You dont need to play the game, we all know how its played
>>109610666i'm not sure what you're referring to, but space debris is a real concern and we have collisions caused by them pretty regularly. most of them are very small, but at the speeds they're moving the energy even very small pieces have can be devastating to live satellites
>>109608009They do this in germany as well.
>>109608001you lost tranny
Unironically what the fuck do you NEED 1GB speeds for? what the fuck are you running a terrorist server?
>>109608889It wouldn't be fair otherwise!
>>109610950Its not even the 1Gbps thats the real issue, its the 500Mbps. Its bit unreasonable too. I think 90% of people are fine with 100Mbps or even 500Mbps, so that is bit of a hassle but doable requirement in few years. The absurd part is the 500Mbps. Not even cable can provide duplex like that, and most people dont even use need 500Mbps upload, thats why 99% of people can do with just sub 50Mbps upload easily. So its adds strangeness to it as when there's no real need for it.
>>109610950downloading stuff faster
>>109608001The problem is just the last mile and is very expensive and time-consuming to upgrade. The USA has a shit-ton of legacy infrastructure in place that wasn't destroyed by two World Wars. There is the lack of actual demand in non-professional market to justify the opportunity costs.
>>109608001as they simultaneously argue "we need dabacenters because we gotta win da tech race against china o algo."
>>109610940Once the Dems get a president again, I'll start every post with "you lost chuddy". It doesn't matter whether they do anything good or not. Pinky promise!
>>109608001>>109608009No internet left behind
if you think about it, you don't really need speeds over 56k
>>109610328100$ per month for significantly worse speeds and latency. lol ...
>>109608001Tired of winning yet?
>>109611344kids today couldn't fathom how slow 56k is compared to current connections.they'd be like "56? that's not that bad", not M, k, it's 1000x slower than 56Mbps.and that's peak theoretical speed. i don't remember getting more than 52, and that was pretty good, lots of people couldn't reach 50, it depends on your distance from an exchange and the quality of your copper
>>109608001Nobody wants to invest in infrastructure for red states still rocking dial up
>>109608057The Romans are le based o algo
>>109611344i spend most of my time online using 4chan, and 4chan worked just fine on dial up 21 years ago so why not.i guess the file size limits have gone up a bit since then, but not by much.
>>109611413a non-cached amazon.com frontpage load is apparently ~10mb according to my devtoolsit would take like 20-30 minutes to load up on a 56k modem
>>109611476i'm sure anon meant more like if things were designed for it still, but yea even just bare minimum web browsing would be just about impossible on dialup today. it was painful in 2006 when i finally got broadband, and people now would kill for websites as small as a 2006 one.you can't even easily cache the shit out of things either since everything went https. i used to run an http proxy for years since obviously there was still a long time between when i had dial up and now with 2Gbit/s so optimising things still mattered, but then around the mid-'00s everything just went https, mostly for no good reason, which just fucks housewide transparent caching, since it's technically a man-in-the-middle, requiring impractical steps to use with https.
>>109611509>around the mid-'00smid-'10s*
>>109608942you are 50% brown
>>109608001>It's not that we can't, we uh just don't want to>It's uh not socially fair or something
>>109609958Wifi itself really isn't all that impressive.They just keep upping the frequency and channel widthThe theoretical max speeds is based on combining all the frequency bands and using extremely wide channels which all become bunk the moment you step in a city or have a wall between you and the access point.Just strictly looking at it, it looks impressive because 15 years ago, 100mbps was the absolute best case with 20mbps as the reality. Nowadays any device gets hundreds of megabits anywhere.Higher end devices can start to touch a gigabit at realistic distance/obstacles.For actual top end WIFI 7 19000BE routers or faster. Multi-gigabit is possible and some routers are outfitted with 10Gb ports. What has happened however is ISPs and certain models of routers which had 10gb ports suddenly only have 2.5gb despite the actual wifi chipset being identical.They don't usually outfit routers with ports that are slower than what you'll realistically get from the Wi-Fi.Wi-Fi has a really long way to go until 10gb
>>109611572suddenly they're concerned with inequality when costs and profits are affected.weird.
>>109608001I am filled to the brim with impotent rage
>>109610635it's amazing how much right-wing discourse is just them not understanding things, thus making discourse impossible
Isn't 1 Gbit like the absolute base minimum these days? Even my mother-in-law has 10gbit at home
>>109608001Oh, so that's when Drumpf cares about inclusiveness.Biggest liar who ever was.
>>109610630here we go the next complaint
>>109608001Don't care, my local ISP already offers 3Gb speeds.
>>109611843>Even my mother-in-law has 10gbit at homeThats so stupid when a 10GbE router + Nics is expensive and no normie has them
>>109611413>>109611476I got like 30kbps sometimes.It was too slow to load some sites, facebook was on and off usable but 4chan was always usable, that's probably a big part of why I came here in the first place
>>109610186yeah theres only been literal hundreds of billions of dollars deployed in both trump admins for laying out fiber opticdumbass indianeven if its for deploying infrastructure for mass surveillance
>>109611990>that's probably a big part of why I came here in the first placei guess i haven't really considered that. 4chan was always a light site. hasn't really changed much at all (4chan X showed up, then eventually an official version of something similar, but even that's still optional last i checked).i didn't really /move/ to 4chan though, unless you consider msn messenger something similar, i used that before 4chan, but nothing else where you talk to people you don't already know over the internet.worst dial up connection i personally used that wasn't just an old-at-the-time machine was when i stayed at a family friends' place for about a month while my parents went on holiday. they lived on a farm (i grew up in a suburb so it was an experience). this was in 2000. because they didn't live close to anything, their connection was terrible. i didn't get to touch their computer much so i don't recall exactly what they got, but it was low 30's kbps at best, maybe even high 20's, it was not good.i remember a lot about that experience despite how short and how long ago it was. life was just so much different to anything i've experienced then or since. like one day the father/man of the house brought me and his younger-than-me daughter with him as he strung up and slaughtered a sheep. i could hardly watch, but the daughter taunted me while holding a sheep kidney or something.also got to ride in one of his older son's trucks, where i was introduced to eminem. 10/10 would visit again
>>109608557The Fat Orange Retard isn't even pretending to care about shit like DEI this time around, since he's not up for re-election and will be dead soon anyway. Being president was only ever about stroking his ego and the ability to siphon as much money as possible into the bank accounts of his family and friends.
>>109611990>>109612092>as he strung up and slaughtered a sheepforgot to mention; the mutton that night was excellent. i'm being completely sincere.i will never forget how the blood poured out like a low-pressure hose after he stabbed that sheep.
>>109612092>where i was introduced to eminemthis was new at the time, which dates my experience pretty tightly.also i was 10 years old, i don't think i'd heard uncensored music before then. as mentioned, very memorable experience. i think i annoyed him a bit by asking to replay "the real slim shady" a few times... i don't even remember where were were going or why i was in his truck.
>>109611956The price for 1 and 10G are basically the same, and if you're a normie who pays to rent the ISP router then that cost is also included.I think basically the open fiber network provider just wants to start onboarding everyone new onto the 10G infrastructure so in 10 years it's easier to decommission the 1G shit without any complaints
>>109612411>ISP routerWhat ISP router?Bet they give you one thats like 2.5G at most. Or even just gigabit still.
>>109608942Thanks to the power of bribes and H1B visas you have both now, congrats!
>>109608001>technologically neutralYou just know someone Jewish came up with such a bullshit term like this
>>109612490naw it's proper 10 Gbit, with one 10GBASE-T LAN port and 4 1G ports. I rented it for the first 2 months when I set up my openwrt machine just in case I ran into issues (the 10g net is IPv6-only and IPv4 is tunneled [I went with a techy ISP on the open net which event lets you choose between 5 different IPv4 tunnel providers] and IPIP was still experimental in openwrt when I switched)
>>109608001the absolute chad guy in my small town who wired it up with fiber optic in the 90s to sit mostly unused for like 25 years until we one day we had gigabit internet
>>109608014
Meanwhile, me, a third worlder with 2Gbps FTTH.
>>109608418>>109608559>>109608588The comments on their articles are always a treat, no matter what it's about the comments somehow without fail devolve into ORANGE MAN BAD every time.
>>109613312I trust you're defending zaddy over there as fervently as you do it here
>>109608001>>109608418>>109613312The FCC report itself is a much better source than an opinion piece of "arse technica". Here is the reasoning from https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-26-55A1.pdfSo basically FCC wants to be neutral and leave it to the market (the consumers) to drive the demand and technology instead of it being artificially decided by the government.
>>109608031My pleasure. 401k is doing great.
>>109608840>you have to still pay american taxes unless you renounce being an american citizen. That's on top of taxes you'd pay in your new place.>what is the foreign tax credit? >what is the foreign earned income exclusion?
>>109612596Okay that's something at least then.> and 4 1G ports.So pathetic. Should at least be 2.5G.
>>109608001>Our government is a jokeWhat's the punch-line?
>>109608633>biden wanted the FCC to develop actually good internet like the rest of the first world>This is bad because melon husk won't profit from his shitty satellite internet that can't hit that speedThe absolute fucking state of this place.
>>109613919having good internet is woke o algo
>>109608001Coming from the same country that hates net neutrality? Priceless.
>>109613974hey isn't it kind of weird how 4chan supported net neutrality until 2017? i wonder what happened...
>>109613919I want to be serious with you. Twitter, social media in general, but especially Twitter and TikTok use real mind control techniques to enslave those who use them. Twitter, Google, Microsoft, Netflix, none of these are good companies, and we all should stop using them. They enslave your mind to take your money, and we should vote for the people who have a proven track record of restricting their ability to do these things, with the least harm, least violence, and least censorship.
>>109613414>let the market play out instead of forcing unrealistic bloated government goals Sounds good to me. In my town a fiber company moved in and BTFOd Comcast in just a couple of years.
>>109610950You've already made cope threads about this. Do you really need to shart out garbage posts in every internet related thread about how everyone should be happy paying a lot for trash speeds?
>>109614021Woah, watch what you say. If you imply that 4chan is also part of that the mods might ban you for noticing the wrong things.
>>1096142034chan doesn't have the budget for mind control, they are trying their best with moots spare laptops but are still in the 2000s with their glowie power
>>109613414>Affordable, reliable, high-speed connectivity will be essential, for example, to American leadership in the global AI economyYes, surely having high-speed Internet accessible to scattered homes in the middle of nowhere will be the lynchpin of American AI hegemony
>>109614021>tripfag with schizobabble and a gif straight from the same social media he's whining about>zero relevance whatsoever to the topic at hand
>>109613919>biden wanted the FCC to develop actually good internet like the rest of the first worldNo, the FCC gov agreed to move the standard to 100d20u and the days before it was being implemented, the Biden admin cancelled Starlink subsidy. They gave the $40 billion dollar to cable companies. The rural America got nothing. No one was connected by the $40 billion dollar. You ate propaganda. The original reason for the money being spent was to bridge the digital divide rural america. Instead Starlink connected 8 million rural American without a single cent from the $40 billion subsidy. They changed from 100d20u to 1000d500u to justify denying Starlink for rural access fund because otherwise they would have to admit it was purely for covid-tranny politics retaliation. Thats not the kicker, the kicker is the Biden admin tried to sabatoge rural American's internet access. They used the "rural america" funding to give money to cable companies that did not connect rural America just to not give money to Starlink because the founder refused the covid lockdown. This was a deliberate attempt to hurt 30+ million rural families across America. As the Starlink is the ONLY technology in the last 50 years that is broadband and that has connected 8 million Americans to the modern internet. The attempt to kill Starlink, the attempt to deny high speed internet to rural America by the Biden admin will not be forgotten. I only see this as tribal retaliation to deny Starlink funding, but the effect may have been to punish rural America as well because the funding comes from their tax money and would not have given them better access had Starlink not succeeded. And 8+ million Rural American would still be using the dog shit internet. Fuck you trannies. Its personal.
>>109614647>The rural America got nothing. No one was connected by the $40 billion dollar.Shut the fuck up, you don't even live on the same continent.
>>109614667FUck you tranny nigger. You trannies lost. You will NEVER BE A WOMAN.YOU HAVE NO WOMB.YOU HAVE NO FUCKING OVARIES.YOU ARE A DERANGED MAN
>>109614647>da ruralJust how many people do you think you're fooling? Rural has access to DSL and better internet, and has for decades. Both my current location and home town are small rural areas, in america, sub-2000 population across the entire census area, and both have had 100D20U or higher since 2010 at the latest. Literal "rural america". Melon's shitternet is not needed and the only reason you're mad about him not getting government money at that point is because you gargle his balls under the false impression he's on your side.
>>109614671Why are you so invested in the domestic politics of a country on a completely different continent? You don't live here. You don't even live near here. You've probably never even been here.
>>109614692>can barely speak english>insists he lives in americakill yourself turd worlder
>>109614696>tranny cant event capitalize and form full sentencesFuck you reddit trannies and commies. You lost
>>109610717Not anymore
>>109614678SAAR I AM LIVE IN THE AMERICA RURAL BLOODY BASTARD TRANNY I AM NOT HAVE INTERNET ELON GAVE TO ME THE INTERNET FUCKING BENCHOD
Based Trump. Fast internet is woke. You will use the beautiful American dial-up, and you will be happy.
>>109614705you cannot speak english. you do not live in america. you probably live in a shithole slum that doesn't even have clean tap water
>>109614723NOOOO I'M A WAOMAN!!!! CASTRATING MHYSELF MAKES ME A WOMAN!!!!
>>109614728>only response to getting called out is screeching about tranniestypical turd world behavior
Biden FCC politics wanted to ban this.
>>109614745hey look more broken english. wow i totally believe that this poster is american
>>109614745Commie tranny politics is the drive behind Biden admin's reason to stop rural Americans from getting broadband highspeed. And steal the money and give it to old cable companies that have pocketed them and contributed to his campaign funding.
>>109614745And replace it with symmetric gigabit fiber, yes. The plan wasn't to take away cable where fiber isn't available either. It just changed what the goal is, and make that goal gigabit everywhere.
>>109614799And give everyone teleportation device and blowjob machines. Wow promises of magic. How EVIL of Trump admin!!!
>>109614799It would mean average Americans would not be using broadband internet at all. So bogus magical rule making.
>>109614826
>>109614826>smallest states have fastest internet>states with the lowest population densities and vast land of nothing or farms have the slowestWow, who could have predicted that.
>>109613414>Yes, we gave them billions of dollars to do it. But we think they should keep the taxpayer money to do nothing, and instead be payed by the taxpayer again a second time directly to do it. This is "fair" and "neutral"riveting
Ban high capacity assault bitrates. Nobody needs more than 1MBPS.
I don't get it? What does Biden have to do with the decision the Trump admin just made? I keep seeing him being brought up. Is this BDS again?
>>109608001it's really the cable companies holding us back
>>109610502they're not even hiding anymore
>>109614826That's the point of a goal. You set it and then try to reach it, in order to improve.
>>109615536>anymore
>>109608540Lmao is 1gbps that unfathomable to you? Nta
>>109614745>Ping 32msOof
>>109608001that sounded familiar
Why is there three threads on this swarming with telco shills?
>>109616367>didn't connect a single person to the internetThere aren't that many people anymore who aren't either already on the internet, or purposely living their life offline. There are very few places where you can't get at least slow DSL or 4G, and even in those places you can get Starlink. It's more a question of raising speed and reducing cost. So in the spirit of this thread, did she speed up anybody's connection?
>>109618682Yes, she was a part of speeding up my connection, I used to live in North Carolina, and she sped up my internet connection, I guess tangibly related to part of her role as Vice President. Yeah, Kamala helped me. Thank you Kamala. Unironically and completely 100% serious when I say this, thank you.
>>109610717>GermanyHope you're enjoying you're are an ADSL and 4G!
>>109608001I'm fine with this. Slow the internet, kill social media. Return to reality.
>starlink starlink starlinkI guess none of you morons have heard of WISPs, which would serve midwest customers just fine without a need for launch capacity and space junk (not that they should be allowed to have internet, fucking boomer zombies)you should all kill yourselves for sucking elon gibsmedat's mushroom cock, his grift is maximizing fed subsidies for all of his companiesthe big cable companies have repeatedly taken subsidies to build out fiber and just do stock buybacks instead. If you think muskrat wouldn't just pocket the cash, you're retarded. Feds would be better off just laying fiber themselves but that wouldn't generate enough profit for the """free market"""
>>109616367I wonder what freedom toons guy thinks about Zognald Drumpf losing almost $1.8 trillion of his money so far this fiscal year.
>>109614000This site is not the United States. But it sure as hell is trying to be
>>109608001usecase for high bandwidth? sending text to ai doesn't need gigabit speeds
>>109615111Thats what they are stopping, they dont want billions more to go there to continue it and instead let the market do its job
>>109608001magatards literally voted for this
>>109608001This is a good thing. We don't need retarded rural Americans getting access to top-of-the-line internet to do nothing but shitpost on Facebook and X. They need to focus on growing my food.
>>109619103You can have your WISPs, you just have to compete with Starlink.At this point I'm convinced you retards would gladly get ripped off for $200 a month by Hugesnet or some boomer ran WISP because it's at least not Elon
>>109619557i pay <$10 per month to my WISP for 100/10(?)sure it breaks sometimes but it's more than enough
>>109619389After a certain speed, it's just pure e-peen, like most tech related things. Nobody will notice the speed difference between 500Mb and 1Gb doing anything that isn't torrenting. Even then, if you can't wait the small extra time for your torrent, you have bigger problems.
>>109619557Yes, all ideologues are mentally ill retards.
>>109619414They already have the billions retard, trump is saying "no, keep the money, but don't give them anything for it"
>>109608001>ouranother retard found
>>109608001Say it's about AI and it will pass as fast as inositol wind on Trump
>>109608633People are played by speed as well.Silently drop every connection to 100mbit/10mbit and 99% wouldn't notice.
>>109610186You can't simultaneously be anti-datacenter and pro-NN.ISPs are a counterparty to Big Tech, and the best way to milk them is to leverage market power, as the RAM cartel proved.The more rent-seekers skim off the top, the faster the bubble bursts.>>1096102161. The military invented the internet.2. There has been zero innovation among traditional ISPs.3. They way to do rural internet the traditional way is unironically FDR TVA style wealth redistribution policy.4. Starlink is the only actual innovation in the field, and Elon is the biggest welfare queen of all time, see (1).
