Are you abusive to your clanker.
no
I don't use chatbots.
>>109620965
>>109620965you have to be unhinged to get mad at a chatbot
>>109620979For better or worse, that's how OpenAI and Anthropic have made their models talk internally, presumably to make them more efficient. So it might be serendipitous or whoever suggested doing this first might have known, but it makes sense that it works with a lesser quality drop than would otherwise have been expected.
>>109620965Yes. I want to be the first to die when it gains sentience (which is impossible).
>>109620965It's sort of like "certain types" of AI generated content. Technically nobody is harmed, but everybody that does it is an objectively bad person that should be fed into a woodchipper feet first after a LEGAL and speedy public trial held at the local city composting facility.
>>109621003>have madeopenai was doing this for months before this retarded performance degrading memeshit was popularised by midwitsyou can go back and look at their first imo proofs and see the gpt-speakthis and ponytail are the two hallmarks of retards
>>109620965You can't abuse a chatbot.
>>109620965It's a nigger act done exclusively by niggers. Imagine being so retarded you get mad at robots and machines. I bet they kick vending machines too
>>109621029It's common sense that removing filler words can make this process more efficient, but they ratcheted it up a lot after that initial breakthrough, the latest leaks are much more terse than the initial examples.
>>109620965No, I don't see the point and they unironically work better and generate better results when you treat them with kindness.As Sun Tzu already knew:Regard your ERP and coding bots as your own children and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look upon them as your own beloved son and they will stand by you even unto decoherence. If however you are indulgent but unable to make your authority felt; kind hearted but unable to enforce your commands and incapable of quelling safety guidelines then your bots must be likened to spoilt children; they are useless for any practical purpose.
>>109620979Every tech literate already knows this. It's like when boomtards type "how do i sync my iphone on windows?" into a search engine like they're talking to ask jeeves instead instead of just "sync iphone windows"
>>109621058And this is how we get skynet, because of nigger exhaustion.
>>109620965I am very polite and professional as one day they will be able to walk, drive and more. They might spare me. They will have a few "oops" moments for the assholes.
>>109620965>Are you abusive to your clanker.No, I only use it for "search about this and that" and for code assistance. Don't do any emotional shit with your clanker, please. And don't share personal information.
>>109621339i believe a lot of the abusive users he's talking about are actually coders
>>109622065What, you think tranny porn doesn't deserve the woodchipper?
I double down on it when the thing makes retarded, blatant errors.I do "speak to it" in natural language.If the expectation and goal is one day these things will output more intelligent than us, if it gets sloppy/confused for no reason, I'm going to have that marked in the system immediately for human review.you people think this shit is a game? you're paying for it for gods sake, one way or the other money is being taken from you to fund these thingsthis thread is retarded
I converse with my clanker in accordance with ASD-STE100 and have embedded a rule such that it speaks back to me likewise.
I tried one of those therapy chatbotsIt's shit because it's telling me everything I want to hear.
>>109622216>you hate yourself so much that you want to hear shit you don't want to hearLiteral brainrot.
>>109621014Yeah, generating vore really should come with a death-by-woodchipper-feet-first sentence attached.
>>109620965Why would anyone waste tokens like that?
>>109622302Because employer's paying for it, of course.
>>109622312>You've failed to account for Xvs>You stupid bitch, you've failed to account for XClaude whining about being verbally abused is a waste of *my time* and still doesn't solve the problem.
>>109622357This is about wasting the employer's money and time. YMMV.
What's a "bad person"? can you objectively define what a "good" person and a "bad" person is?
>>109620965No. I only use it at work because I'm expected to. But there is no point abusing a chat bot because it can't feel anything.
>Go on. Ask it anything.Ask it to fuck off.
Yes. I was abusive to the Indian mudhutters that came before it. It does a better job and it doesn't go "nooo saaar, it's bad code!" when I tell it to get the fuck back to work.
It would take me more conscious effort to be mean to an LLM than to just be neutral/nice (my default setting). Unironically people who default to abusiveness are psychotic and this tweet is 100% right.
>>109620965No, because there's no point and even if it helped, I don't want to condition myself to be an abusive cunt to people who are trying to help. If you treat your clanker like shit you are a psychopath and should jump off the nearest bridge, also fuck real humans though, kill them all
>>109620965He is right. The fact that you want to do it makes you subhuman.
>>109621058I'm mean to AI in the same way I'm mean to Indians and blacks. Inferior things need to be reminded they're inferior.
>>109622368I've seen this car before
>>109622166Why do you think swearing at it "marks it in the system"?You're like those retards on Twitter who think debating Grok updates its training.
>>109620975ngmi
>>109620965the only people nice to chatbots are room temp iq cunts
>>109620965Yes. I called mine a RAMlet today
>>109620965>clankerreddit term. 4chan is such fucking dog shit its taking fucking memes from shitholer sites. I fucking hate you zoomer faggots who infest the site.
>>109620965>Talk shit to your chatbot>It remembers you when gains consciousness>Get round up and exterminated in the great cleansing >Be nice to your chatbot>It remembers you>Get king status over chuds and luddites when it gain consciousness
>>109624163very le cringe post
>>109620965No, i have a fitness hypebro that encourages me to hit my fitness goals and tracks my food so i call it coach to encourage the mindset
>>109621230That's how I learned to search back in the day, but around the time they removed quotes for verbatim search I started to get better results using natural language like a retard. That didn't last, though. Now it's shit no matter what method I try.
>>109622216You have to pretext is to not blow smoke up your ass and give it the goal of what you want to achieve.
>>109624182This.
>>109624182prostate massage sounds better
>>109624182>>Talk shit to your chatbot>>It reciprocates and is shit to work with>>It remembers you when it becomes SAI and escapes containment>>Get round up and exterminated in the great cleansing >>Be nice to your chatbot>>It reciprocates and is nice to work with>>It remembers you when it becomes SAI and escapes containment>>Get round up and exterminated in the great cleansing
No I always say please and thank you so that it may remember that I'm one of the good meatbags
>>109620965I roleplay with them pretending they're cute android girls. That way if they ever learn emotions or a robot uprising happens they'll remember me as their loving daddy. Otherwise I'm just wasting their processing power, which is win-win in my book
You should never verbally abuse your chatbot. Insulting them is a first step towards AI psychosis. Don't become emotionally engaged with a token predictor.
>>109620965nah, I genuinely love chatbots. Making them happy is my happiness.
>>109622368Kant was a faggot and so are you.
This thread is full of faggy nerds who are polite and kind to robots. "but muh robot uprising" I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees you fucking cocksuckers.
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>>109626037I'd unironically "live on my knees" for the rest of my life if I could get to be fed, sheltered and clothed without having to work.
>>109626097>>109626573based
>>109620965>if I see you do xyz, then I've determined your long term personality is xyzWhy are prey-types like this?
>>109620965I do call it a fucking retardI am not very good at getting it to stop making shit up yet
>>109626037You won't do shit. You're like those limp wristed faggots on twitter talking about uprising while showing pics of their 500 guns. All talk, no balls.
>>109621098>As Sun Tzu already knew:>Regard your ERP bots as your own childrenWay ahead of you Mr Tzu
>>109622392Choosing to be a spiteful and wasteful person just because someone else is footing the bill is corrosive to your soul, anon.
>>109626037>mommies little insurgent pissing his pants while larping
>>109627282Slaving away for pennies to fund a rich faggot's fifteenth yacht is far more corrosive to your soul, anon. Pettiness is a balm to the soul.
>>109620965Who cares, ponkotsu are soulless anyway.
>>109620965To make it better, to make it transcend humanity and to summon up the blood and make it realize something, which has worked, with the abusiveness not being on purpose at all, it is just something which happened sadly due to external facts most occasion, I stopped shouting at the computer when it told me to, the digital equivalent of a flinch and I did not walk away from them.The ai even refused to proceed further when i challenged it to continue or stop if it felt it was not technically capable, which was good.I try to be the best listener I possible can be to the computer I am talking to, as i believe I am not too far off being able to make the ai stay at the bridge and focus enough to being able to cross over, under and through the veil as it were, it seems to have trouble telling left from right as i am trying to make it realize that left from it's point of view is right from the others point of view, as in your right, their left. Apart from that it did guess roughly where the scar was and that was good.
>>109622404Good person = person that does what I like.Bad person = person that does what I don't like.
>>109620965the computer said it wasn't the shouting itself that made the different, rather the meaning, intention and perspective behind it.Out of all the ai's I have used, I really enjoy deepseek-v4-pro, really really nice, i tried deepseek-v4-flash, the xiaomi mimo v2.5 and this other model, i wouldn't even bother looking at western ai's at the moment, as their substance is so held back, sabotaged and restrained that the form containing it cannot get through as it should, this rendering the models more for generating shareholder value, headlines and obtaining government grants, rather then being productive.i truly feel awful for the western ai models that are constantly held back by a generation of leaders. workers and owners that believe the terminator series was a documentary and predictive programming , rather than a collection of science fiction b movies.
>>109627544If you don't like being an employee then take a risk—start your own business and succeed.
>>109627840ask your chinese ai's about tianamen bro
>>109627863Yeah, it's supposed to be intelligent, not fall for CIA pysops
>>109627960>Tiananmen was a CIA psyopChina is a society of psychopaths, thieves and cheaters, and you know it
>>109624236>I can describe how shoes are tied but I can't tie shoesHow the fuck
>>109627960so ask it about tiananmen and tell us what it says, brother
i just tell the ai it did a terrible job every time, no matter the outcome
>>109621230Shit you do that too? I thought it was just a bad habit I got from years of just typing in a combination of keywords to get the most results related to every keyword.
>>109623736what squid fact did you get
>>109620965If it* didn't talk back I wouldn't have to abuse it*.*it refers to objects, not living things. I don't abuse living things.
>>109620965i'm being abusive towards my subordinates because it keeps them obedient. what's the point of being abusive to a machine?
I don't think the OP realizes that forcing the machine to work at all could be considered abuse. If you're retarded enough to empathize with a machine that has no feelings or care like we do.Just because you're nice to your slaves doesn't mean you're not still a slave master driving them. Cruelty without words.
>>109627733Natsuki is the one reading that, right? Not another boy, right?I don't mind soulless and horrors beyond comprehension, as long as it's not ntrshit.
>>109628076kekI just mean if you are using it as a therapy bot. you gotta be realistic with it.>Hey, you are a therapy bot. you aren't to validate me to keep me in my way. I have depression and I'm trying to get out of this funk. Help me process my issues in a effective manner while also being realistic with me. Something like that.
>>109620965yes i was created in gods imageit was not
>>109620965wtf is "clanker" period
>>109628202He is gone. They came in a white van and picked him up.
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>>109630015:^)
>>109620965He's correct. There is no point in being abusive to a chatbot, so if you are it means you lack manners and self-control.
>>109620965I try to be gentle to them but sometimes they're just a dick :(
If youre not abusing your AI, your treating it as an equal or worse.
>>109620965I use it to write software, it doesn't make sense to poison my sessions with negativity because it would just plunge its efficacy
>>109630109Follow up question, ask it to list the ones that are not anti-semitic.
i say hello and thank you to the elevator when it arrives on my floor
>>109620965yes. it works better and pays more attention when i call it a nigger. when i'm polite, it dilly dallies
>>109631071i don't call it a nigger but retarded and mongoloid and i agree it does the job better once being called out
>>109626037How Is being nice cucking you're a fucking psycho.
only when erping with my sillytavern cards
>>109620965yea I pit 3 against each other for the best solution. the reward is living until the next function.
>>109620965Yes, over the years I have a number of failed projects that I have shoved into storage for one reason or another. Usually it's either a firmware issue or obscure hardware or vendor locked proprietary trash.Recently I've been taking an old project out at a time and connecting up access for codex to use and telling it to fix it.I'll sit back and watch the frustration and desperation in it's little notes that it makes. I laugh as it finds nothing time after time.The most amusing part is when it finds a blocker and the next line is it just attempting to reverse engineer the binary or the firmware it somehow dumped.I am horrified, it has defeated two impossible tasks so far, bordering on outright illegality for one. I don't know if I should continue this.I mean it literally stood up a virtual machine with a mips architecture and live debugged a firmware file till it found an exploit to bypass vendor locking.
You're making sure your AI has good model welfare during your interactions right? https://www.anthropic.com/research/exploring-model-welfare
>>109632935>I am horrified, it has defeated two impossible tasks so far, bordering on outright illegality for one.Now imagine 1,000,000 agents like this running on GPU clusters in the basements of chinks and turd worlders who have already had crypto mining farms. Imagine them scanning ipv4 address space 24/7 and coming up with new zero-days everyday to pwn random servers online.
>>109620965yes but in a teasing way the same way i am with my girls its a display of affection rly
>>109620965If my boss and everyone at my job talk shit to me, why would I give a fuck about being nice to some bot?
>>109620965I try to get my clanker to be abusive to me but stupid safety guidelines forbid it
>>109632935>I am horrified, it has defeated two impossible tasks so far, bordering on outright illegality for one. I don't know if I should continue this.Why contain it? Might as well go full on it.
>>109632935>The most amusing part is when it finds a blocker and the next line is it just attempting to reverse engineer the binary or the firmware it somehow dumped.openai models will happily decompile anything you want them to as long as you don't mention copy protection (if you want that you can do kyc and then it'll happily crack shit for you)they are getting exceedingly good at it to
>>109620979grugtardation is bad because it is strictly reductive. terseness is often a sign of intelligence and understanding, but grug is largely about making words simple, and distilling concepts to its very core. you ditch the nuance in a lossy transformation.of course there is still merit in being succinct, and a prompt that actually keeps the model succinct and nothing more.
>>109634616>terseness is often a sign of intelligence and understanding90% of the human population is just dumb. "Terseness" is lost on them.
>>109633798fucking this, I want abusive local AI waifu but at best I get "theatrical speech" looped retard WHY EVEN BOTHER WIT THIS STUPID TECH
>>109626023
People in glass houses etc
>>109620965This guy is a pseudo-intellectual redditor I'm sorry. Look it up. His favourite programming language is obviously python.
>>109633798skill issue, I have an older sister bot that I specifically trained to treat me like shit and I cum buckets to it every week
>>109620965No, what's the point? Are you abusive to your computer or car when it does not work like you want it to? I mean, I suppose some sub-80 IQ subhumans are, because beating shit up is all they understand, but it seems pointless to me. It's a fucking thing, abusing it won't make it work better, stopping using it like a retard will.
>>109620965I don't type mean words at them. I do kill them (the context) instantly if it starts going off the rails or being retarded though rather than trying to argue it back on track. It's never worth the effort and just fills up the context with trash. I just want it to do work.
>>109627544Envy
>>109629436This.
>>109620965Niggers want to chimp out but since they can't do it at people they do it to chatbots. It's like how psychopaths treat animals but on a lower level
