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wtf is this "memory training" bs that happens every boot on ddr4/5?ddr3 >>>>>>> ddr4/5.new unironically bad. im going back.
Sapphire pulse models:RX 9060XT 16 GB - €480RX 9070 GRE - €540RX 9070 - €670RX 9070 XT - €760The market is so terrible that ayyyymd can push the price of the 9060xt up in order to make the 9070gre seem like a good deal, LMAO.
>>109629707Every boot?
>>109629721they can do it because fags with weak cpus know that amd gpus run better with pcie 3.0 and weak six core ddr4 systems
Thoughts on the 5060 Ti for 1440p?Is it capable at 60-100 fps level on most gaymes ?
>>1096297518gb version doesn't have enough VRAM16gb version is very overpriced because AI
>>109629707DDR4 takes like 10 seconds. It's fine.
>>109629731With AMD? Yes.With Intel? No.
>>109629896Skill issues. My 9800x3d does memory training every few months once even with fast boot disabled
How are WQHD monitors? What's the resolution compatibility like with games and which are the best options?
i will get a 9800xd i will get a 420mm aioi will get overpriced ddr5 ramand i will be happy
I have a $1000 budget to build a pc. My brother is giving me his spare 16gb ddr5 ram and his 4060 card. He also has 650 watt psu that he can give me as well. I know a 4060 is weak but I'm planning on playing my games at 1080p and will upgrade once I have enough saved up. Any recommendations? Also what tutorial on pc building should I watch?
>>109629707it shouldn't happen at stock.
>>109629939>WQHD monitorsisn't that standard 2560x1440p? Unless you play exclusively old games nearly everything the past 15 years should support this
>>109629707Check your mobo battery.
Is it better to buy a OLED monitor or a OLED TV? I care about what looks best. If both can do 4k 120hz+ then it doesn't matter to me but how will I know which one has better colours/blacks and less likely to greyscale colour band?
>>109629939Shouldn't be an issue outside some pixel graphics. Non-standard refresh rates can get funky with pulldown on some fixed-rate medias.
>>109630049No I was looking at some that were 3440x1440 like the Odyssey G8
>>109630122I got a G95NC but mainly use it for day trading.I mainly game on half the screen at 3840x2160.To me it seems the only time you will want full screen gaming in such a big monitor is for driving sims.
Thoughts on the MSI B650?
how common is psu coil whine? on fucking idle only of all things (i.e. desktop).i have had this corsair rm850x for a few days now and that high pinch sound is driving me insane already.does it eventually go away with time? should i try to rma it? or can i diy it away somehow?
>>109629943https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MrYGxfYou can find cheaper boards and case.>Also what tutorial on pc building should I watch?Greg Salazar is probably reliable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKRtV2etVq4You can watch LTT's 2 hour build guide if you got the time for it.>>109630083>Is it better to buy a OLED monitor or a OLED TV?OLED TVs can get a lot brighter.I'd get Bravia 8 Mk. II (65") or one of the Samsung -H TVs (S90H, S95H) if you're looking for a 4K HDR gaming TV.Both are QD-OLED.
If a 5070 ti and 9070xt were both within $200-$300 from each other which would you choose? In this scenario you have a dp2.1 oled monitor with freesync premium pro
>>1096303969070 XT if you don't care for frame generation, path tracing, & don't need CUDA.The time to buy RTX cards were last year.
>>109630426First two I don’t need but what is cuda for?
>>109630462CUDA is NVIDIA's proprietary software and parallel computing platform.If you want to dabble in local AI, there's more tools available for CUDA vs. AMD's ROCm.
>>109630396rdna4 compute units > blackwell cuda coresread specs
>>109630494Oh yeah no it would just be for gaming and media I’ve never had a raedeon card before what are considered the quality and reliable brands/models? I don’t care for overclocked shit only longevity of life
>>109630396Never, ever buy an AMD GPU
>>109630520ASUS Prime is fine for most people.I'd either get that or the XFX Quicksilver @ current US prices.
>>109630389>high pinch soundi'm not even able to hear them so maybe i am blessed
>>109630544you mean Never, ever buy an Nvidia GPUbroken Windows driversbroken Linux driversskill issue for noobsskill issue for expertsdoesn't work at all
>>109630396buying an nvidia gpu makes you a cuck by definition. imagine being forced to run windows and getting your cpu raped by a shitty nvidia driver.
>>109630544Old news like recommending Ryzen over Intel. Intel is better. AMD GPU is better.
>>109630544The stock market knows Nvidia hardware & software is a scam. AMD is hot shit now.
>>109630556>you are a cuck if you use windows>you are a tranny if you use linuxwhat OS should i go for?
>>109630390Thanks anon.
>>109630571the nvidia driver by the nature of the gpu (lack of a strong hardware scheduler that works independently of the cpu) is always going to suck no matter the platform which results in the shitty performance on both linux and windows with a weak cpu. the nvidia driver isn't even good on windows is what i am saying. it's just more optimized there and doesn't get caught because revieweres test with high end cpus.
>mfw I got a 5600 + b580 and it plays my games at 4K60 on high with XeSS
>>109630597If you have a nvidia gpu, your system is incapable of real time audio because your cpu gets spam fucked with dpc/isrs. Amd & Intel don't have this problem.
Looks like they're giving me this for free? Any one have any bad experience with this cpu cooler?
>>109630389try ferrite beads
fa/g/s are so predictable, they just hate on whatever product is more expensive and thinks this gives them nuance and sophistication instead of just accepting they’re poorfa/g/s and can’t afford the nicest things
>>109630737If it’s free, who cares? Use it until it proves itself inadequate
>>109629707>>109629896What are you on about? My 7600X3D does it once every 4/5 months and it's like 2 sec lmao
>>109630898nta but those won't help. coil whine is a mechanical noise.
>>109631067tell her that she will never be a woman from me
>>109631067Ryzen 5600X
How much better do GPUs with triple fans and a passthrough cool than dual fans?
>>109631104still won't make her a woman
>built PC early in the decade>it's showing its age minimum requirements-wise (8GB 3070, saw a game that needed a 20-series minimum) but I bought more RAM than I needed>parts are even more stupidly expensive than I built it>Stellar Blade on low settings made my CPU overheat
>>109631173That's odd. Games aren't that CPU dependent. Do you routenely repaste/maintain your cooler?
>>109631304>Games aren't that CPU dependent.korean coded cpu bottlenecked garbage is
>>109631383My 5 yo CPU handled it well.
>>109630389>high pinch
I'd be careful flinging stones, AMDorks>The Voltage Wall: Silicon power scaling is non-linear. Pushing from 5.7 GHz to 6.5 GHz+ requires exponential voltage increases. Even on TSMC's advanced 2nm nanosheet node with backside power delivery, you cannot outrun physics.>The TDP Deception: AMD calculates TDP based on base clocks, not maximum boost. If Zen 6 ships rated as a "125W or 170W" part, it will only stay there when running baseline workloads. Under a full 6.5 GHz+ boost loop, it will easily pull 250W to 300W+ of actual package power (PPT), completely matching Intel's worst habits.
>>109631499perfectly fine hyte y70 Strawberry Milkhyte x50 Strawberry Milkthermaltake The Tower 300 Bubble Pink
>>109631571>ai postgemma is stupid, do your own research and come back
>>109631601if you're after a fishtank, the corsair frame 4500x has the nice curved glass for a gapless corner
>>109631601You don't think she's just using you bro
>>109631627Better than the old gay dudes trying to be my sugar daddy when I build PC’s for people on fb marketplace.
For the sake of shoving it in Proxmox box and using it for the sake of transcoding, is there any reason to use the Intel Arc Pro B50 over the A380 I already have?
>>109631122Yes or just buy second hand used on your local craigslist/facebook marketplace/ebay/whatever.
>>109631665a bit less power draw. SRIOV, although I think the A380 also supports that
>>109631725>No, the Intel Arc A380 does not support SR-IOV (Single Root I/O Virtualization). Intel's consumer-focused Arc A-Series discrete desktop graphics cards lack hardware and driver-level support for GPU virtualization features like SR-IOV.
>>109631594>i..it’s must wrong, ok? No I’m not going to cite a source that says it’s wrong, you do that
Sanity check my DDR4 upgradeGoing from:i7-9700kZ390 itxto:i9-14900kJGINYUE B760I Snow Dream D4I am planning to TDP limit the 14900k depending how hot things get. Never used a Chinese motherboard before, but LGA 1700 DDR4 motherboard selection is slim lately and this thing seems alright.
>>109632166I would personally go with something newer, but u do u...Any particular reason for those parts?
>>109630083Refer to this reference imagetherefore as anon said TVs are best, Brightest QDOLED best, therefore S95H(Na), S99H(eu) is the best hdr colorfullest gaymen tv, S95F (s95h eu) consideration since they rehashes the same thing again for s95h eu this yearfor reference LG and tandem panel with the LG G5 has about the same color volume as a s90d, even tho LG is woled but it's so much brighter and a tandem, and s90d is not as brightand the s90 series is like half the brightness of the s95but LG G series is way brighter than S90 and a better coating though
>>109632208It's a faster DDR4 platform. I can re-use my existing high-end DDR4 kit for a few more years until the memory market settles down. My CPU + mobo are still worth decent $, so the net cost for this upgrade will end up around $250. I can't justify spending how much the DDR5 kits that I actually want cost right now, so I'm looking for good upgrade value to tide me over until things improve.
>>10963216614900k is fairly efficient if you enforce the Intel default 307A iccmax current limitIt gets better with an even lower iccmax of 250A or less
>>109632166>JGINYUE B760I Snow Dream D4that shit is not gonna clock past 3200but if you're just using XMP then ehlook for a used ASUS or MSI board
Once Intel introduces large cache models they will pull ahead of AMD, so basically Nova Lake. Their IHS is of a normal thickness and so never suffered the poor thermal transfer of AM5 and thus can push their chips harder; this is partially thanks to Intel's propensity for switching sockets all the time by the way. Zen 6 would need to have enough of an efficiency improvement in order to keep their lead, how much can they do this now when it is butting up against physical limits?
>>109632292That much is obvious. Amd makes great server cores but they're just that, server cores.
>>109632292how many gens left until we get ddr6 reset to wipe the slate cleancamm2 cant come early enoughif that shit is expensive as fuck than you can rationalize buying new ram atleast
>>109632313am5 has 2 gens left on ddr5. am5 is officially dead by 2030.
>>1096323132 amd gens and 3 Intel gens
>>109632330>>109632339>6090 release before ddr6 releaseits over
>>109631106Can't give exact figures, but video cards with triple fan cooling should run quieter than dual fan cards and have a bit more OCing thermal headroom.I'd consider getting a triple fan model if they cost about $50~60 more than the dual fan card.There are some dual fan cards like ASUS Dual that is decent after an undervolt.>>109631499250K is overkill for a 3060 12GB, it's not worth paying DDR5 memory premium for that card.This is more in line for that 3060. Pick whichever fancy cooler you want.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pmDkKq>>109632166You need to know whether that ChingChang ITX motherboard's BIOS can reliably limit the 14900K's voltage request down to 1.4~1.45V.
How good are the phase change thermal pads that Asus uses?
>>109632448Better than thermal paste worse than ptm7950
asus prime 9070xt or asrock 9070xt?
>>109629665>nova lakeit is just that I want 52 cores
>>109632496They are the same thing and same company
>>109632389>ChingChang ITX BIOSIt can. It's one of the rare Chinese boards with a manufacturer that provides BIOS updates.>>109632281That's the plan! Neither my CPU cooling nor the motherboard power delivery can handle the CPU at unlocked settings. The board comes set by default at 200W tdp.>>109632286I'm more iffy on buying a used motherboard than buying a new Chinese one
I need to buy a pc for my boomer father in law for his office work.Mostly web browsing, word processing, printing, cctv monitor for security system etc. No gayming.Till now he was using an hp all in one with a celeron, but it's getting unusable now.I'm thinking a ryzen 5 with integrated graphics will be sufficient. No gpu required. Will intel be more reliable?Any other advice? What kind of budget should I keep in mind to make a usable pc?Thanks.
>>109632313Why would ddr6 wipe the slate clean? Why wouldn’t ddr6 be more expensive than ddr5? Why would cloud providers allow you to buy cheap memory ever again? What makes you think memory companies have any incentive to lower prices?
>>109632389>I'd consider getting a triple fan model if they cost about $50~60 more than the dual fan card.Late thanks.
>>109626284The 5060 Ti is a sidegrade over a 3060 Ti, which came out 5 years ago.
>>109632838>5 years agoAlmost 6 actually
>>109632838>Sidegrade>50% better performance in games.???
>>109632874>50% betterMore like 20%. Never mind that even merely 50% after 6 years is still offensive.
>>109632906No, it's like 50% if you look at the benchmarks and don't just talk google's AI auto answer at face value.Either way, yeah. Performance uplift of the past 6 years for everything is pretty mild. AMD still isn't beating Nvidia at anything and Intel also struggled to get a particularly performant GPU too. We're pretty into the world of diminishing returns by this point. Which I mean is kinda good for the consumer, you can buy a used card and it'll be pretty potent, you don't need to deal with the greed of AMD and Nvidia increasing prices every month.
>>109632920>AMD still isn't beating Nvidia at anythingI got a 9070 XT for 730 AUD, so AMD managed to beat NVIDIA in replacing my 3060 Ti.
>>109632757The description of the expected tasks can be handled by anything made in the past 10 years. Either manufacturer will do but Intel will let you get something a bit closer to the present while still being compatible with DDR4.
>>109633046Thanks.Inflated part prices and shortage have made this task a pain.
I've reached peak computing. I won't upgrade unless they make something like 1GB L2 cache CPU so it gives you unlimited FPS or SSD that's so fast I don't have to wait a millisecond for stuff to happen.
>>109632920Yeah, the only worthwhile upgrade in the last 6 years is the +70% from going from the 3090 to the 4090
>Core Ultra has much better 1% lows than RyzensDefend this.
>2012>built a gayman PC capable of playing Skyrim with my brother for ~$600>AMD FX processor, Radeon HD 6790 GPU>reused storage from previous PC to save a little money>a few years down the road, upgrade to FX-8350>overclock the snot out of it, GA-990FXA-UD3 is GOATAnd now if my RAM fails I have to sell a kidney to replace it, even if it is covered under warrant.We need to go back.
>>109633241>everything now has more tris>but graphics barely look better than 10 years ago>requires thousand of dollar GPU just to get triple fps in native even outside of 4kI was told the future will be bright yet everything has become progressively worse. Only a selected few have it better while the rest suffers
>>109629751Asking same questionIs the 5060ti more than enough for 1440/60 gaming, even AAA slop?
>>109633277So you are telling me everything is getting worse? I'm literally in shock right now.
>>109633302Maybe.Maybe not.
>>109630396A year ago when I was building my PC I could buy 5070ti for about the same price 9070XT was and I intentionally chose 9070XT because I'm not going to babysit nvidia on Linux. I regret nothing, wouldn't choose nvidia even if it was cheaper.
>>109632769it justifies being more expensive because it's new, it has never been another price than what it releases on, you will need it for new cpus (inb4 dd5 backwards compatbility)if I buy ddr5 now I always have to cross reference to 90€ ddr5 64gb hynix kits>Why would cloud providers allow you to buy cheap memory ever again?what are they gonna do? buy up all the ram? companies?>What makes you think memory companies have any incentive to lower prices?tsmc just 4x or 5x'd their fab capacity, those chips gotta go somewhere, so there will be somewhere to put that ram eventuallyif they thought it would be a shortage everywhere forever they wouldnt increase their fabs like crazysurely right?something like thatthe ai pop is coming surely
>>109633206The ssd already exists
To new lurkers, whatever you're doing do NOT listen to retards. I mean this type of retard:>oh you want to buy <PC part>? But it would be overkill based on your usageI fell for it years ago when everything was relatively cheap and now I regret it. Modern software development in all sectors assume you have at least 64 GB of ram minimum
>>109633519Yeah, uh, did you miss micron selling out their ram production for the next 5 years already?
>>1096303969070xt if linuxotherwise never go with AMD on wangblows, the 5070 TI just mogs.
>>109633206Optane p5800x has a latency of <10 microseconds but most OSs can't keep up with it
>>109633651did you miss fabs increasing their capacity insanleyt much
>goyim thinks he will own thingsaltman needs those chips for his slop cannon
>>109633690I did. Please show me how they instantly completed 2-3 year, $3B projects all at the same time while tool makers can’t keep up with demand. Then explain why prices haven’t come down
>>1096303965070 Ti, easily.If you're buying a new GPU, you want it to run new games, and new games benefit from FG, DLSS and PT.9070 XT is going to be a great card when it's <$300, but right now you're spending almost a grand for a GPU that can only max out indie games and older titles, and you can get a used 3080 or something for like half the price and it'll do the same thing but better.
>>109629732>https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/xQzc4gyou can shave a little off the cost by getting your cpu off aliexpress, also you can get 32GB's of ddr4 there for €130-150 (lower latency), you can also get a "banned in the US deepcool dualfan aio" for €45 off generic sites like megekko or whereever, you can also get a 9070 gre which is great value compared to a €500 9060 and reasonable value compared to a €700 9070xt.>>109631067>what budget cpu to pair with a 3060 12gb? a used ryzen 2600 is probably the lowest cost part you can get away with, if you want something new get a 5500. >>109632757something like a used HP Prodesk/Elitedesk might be the best value for money ($150), if he must have something new look into N100/150 mini-pc's ($200-300) if it has to be pcbg related look into a barebones system. somewhat current cpus with igpus that run on ddr4 are a little overpriced right now around $150 for something along the lines of a i5-13400 or a 5600g(t) then depending on ram and storage you should be thinking of spending $400-500 for a system you could buy prebuilt for $500-650.>>109631122in my experience they'll usually deliver a working product, still seems a little shady though, alixpress adds are grouped with porn adds and adds for online gambling and from a value/$ perspective i'd consider spending $30-40 more and getting a 5700x or a 5500x3d.
>>109633724It will, after they are built :)
>>109633302>>109629751I can only speak to Australian pricing, but NVIDIA cards recently got a massive price hike to the point that the 5060 Ti costs more than a fucking 9070 XT. Even the 9060 XT which is like half the price of a 9070 XT has competitive performance with the 5060 Ti, which isn't futureproof at all: it's going to be weaker than the next PlayStation's GPU because it's basically a sidegrade to the 3060 Ti.
>>109633733Horseshit. How much are you seriously willing to pay for 2 extra frames per second?
>>109633752Isn't this the guy that got caught downclocking Nvidia cards in his reviews?
Don't buy a GPU right now.
>>109633630>>109633670>check price>
>>109633752>61% CPU usage>less FPS>49% CPU usage>more FPSreally makes my jimmies rustled
>>109633762>52 games averageOkay, which games?Utterly irrelevant unless it's games you actually care about. 9070 XT getting 900 fps in Arkham Asylum from 2009 whilst the 5070 Ti gets 400 isn't remotely relevant to me as I'm not going to play it, because I already did 15 years ago.How it runs in the new Forza or something is far more important because chances are I care more about how a game runs that came out within the past year than nearly 20 years ago.
>>109633817I was not aware that Hardware Unboxed were looking at 15yo PC games. Because they aren't:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBNwDg9WkT8
>>109633817>>109633822Let's also not forget that these benchmarks are on Hindus 11; NVIDIA's Linux drivers are absolute dog shit lol, and if you're not using Linux you shouldn't even be on this board.
>>109633822>AMD Unboxed.You got a less biased source on that?
>>109633835Wat?
>>109633799On the other hand, they’ll outlive your grandchildren
>>109633835"AMD Unboxed" aka the guys who got blacklisted by AMDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYfw1gi9xf4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoCYyg6ecLMBut please tell me how the numbers are lying.
>>109633841>your grandchildrenKEK
>>109633837AMD Unboxed literally got blacklisted for how biased they were being.They were for a while forcing nvidia cards to run FSR2 and comparing them to AMD cards running FSR2, and claiming it was a like for like comparison.
>>109633851>literally got blacklistedBy AMD yeah
>>109633866I think if you get blacklisted by AMD and Nvidia, you might just be a shit tech reviewer.
>>109633870>If you give scrutiny to companies, you might be a shit reviewerCorporate slave detected
>>109633733>paying £900 for a card that is 2% faster than a £600 cardI mean I don't know exactly how pricing is in other countries, but i'm sure it's similar.
>>109633881It's not really scrutiny if you're intentionally doing shit nobody would realistically do, just to make the thing seem worse than it is.It's like when boomers car reviewer would complain about EVs "Running out of charge mid-drive" after ignoring every single indicator that it was running out of battery and refusing to charge it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GWLRzvbros, what do i do? ive cleaned out my pc, undervolted my gpu and messed around with the fan curve but i cannot seem to figure out why my computer is so incredibly loud. even when opening a new tab on internet or general browsing, the GPU whirs up. when playing a game, it sounds as if it is about to blow up & the fan bearings are going out. all i play are dark souls and elden ring. is it time to upgrade? what is salvageable and what is not?budget: ~1k / usa
>>109633890>If a 5070 ti and 9070xt were both within $200-$300 from each otherIf you must know about my situation.I got myself a 5080 for 900 qid from SCAN m8. Drove to Bolton to go pick it up meself too. The showroom they have is pretty cool, the Halo PC and all the LAN Party set ups they have is very cool, would recommend, but I only live like 10 minutes away, so, you know.These days a 9070XT is like 700 quid for a decent non-povery spec and non-refurb one, so yeah fuck that shit. I think there's a solid argument to make that even the 5060 Ti will age better than the 9070 XT when you consider DLSS and shit, desu.
>>109633893First off, you said they were biased because NVIDIA blacklisted them; but then when you found out AMD blacklisted them too, you didn't change your interpretation at all. Isn't this contradictory logic?Secondly, the fact that NVIDIA walked back on their blacklisting due to massive public backlash shows that the settings Hardware Unboxed were testing on were actually popular and considered a fair comparison. Yes, two cards running FSR2 is literally a like-for-like comparison, because they're being compared against the same settings, and people don't like vendor lock-in.Thirdly, you haven't meaningfully acknowledged that NVIDIA walked back on their blacklisting, and are instead incessantly citing an incident 6 years ago; not only do Hardware Unboxed test RT and PT and FSR4 vs DLSS nowadays, but AMD's blacklisting attempts are much more recent (ie this year). Please acknowledge all these facts in your reply if you don't intend to convince me that I'm arguing with an LLM.
what is the quietest cheap psu?
>>109633927>pls respond
how is this thread still alive? have you guys switched to used pc building general?
>>109633927Nah, I think they're a shit reviewer because they're obviously incapable of doing realistic comparisons if they think anyone using an Nvidia card is going to run FSR. It's obvious that running software not optimised for the hardware is not going to produce meaningful results, and is only done for fanboyism.And I'm not surprised that "Public backlash"/poorfags and redditors complaining made Nvidia decide it wasn't worth the bother.
>>109633939That's an option?
>>109633941>Nah, I think they're a shit reviewer because they're obviously incapable of doing realistic comparisons if they think anyone using an Nvidia card is going to run FSR.And just like that, you failed to acknowledge that they compare FSR4 vs DLSS nowadays. I have officially been arguing with an LLM, oh well...
>>109633941just fyi, FSR is cheaper to run on nvidia than DLSS so it's not a factor, if anything more performance
>>109633951I don't give a shit what they're doing these days because they've already proven themselves to be biased. If GamersNexus comes out with a video tomorrow talking about how great AI is, are you seriously so stupid as to think he's now completely removed any biases he used to have on the topic?
>>109633956Post beef.
>>109633956>I don't give a shit what the cold hard numbers with the exact settings I asked for sayWho do YOU consider an unbiased benchmarker?
>>109633950if you want to go back to 2010 it is
>>109633970I don't mind Techpowerup and Tom's hardware.YouTubers are innately untrustworthy people driven by engagement.
>>109633906have you looked into changing out the thermal paste and pads on your gpu? also when you say "cleaned out" do you mean physical removal of debris and dust from your pc case or the removal of superfluous files on your ssd because you probably have to do both. with your current build you can very comfortably swap out your current gpu for a 2-3x increase in performance. for $1k+200 from selling your current machine you should be able to get a reasonable entry level PC with dr5 and maybe a 16GB vram gpu.
Do you think Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE can fit above kingston fury beast that is 34.9 mm tall?
>>109634002look at the spec sheet
How are AMD drivers STILL so bad? I'm still on 25.9.1 drivers that's over a year old now because every time I try and update the drivers I get all kind of issues and crashes.I'm actually tempted to get a Nvidia card because these driver issues are so ass, never had any problems with my GTX1060
>>109633985no to the paste / pads. this gpu has always been on the loud end so not sure if it would do much of anything.
>>109634009The GPU market is a very direct 1:1 competition in a way that other things aren't. If you're the kinda guy that writes drivers for GPUs, you're either working for Nvidia, or AMD.And if you're working for AMD, Nvidia wants to hire you for twice your salary at AMD. This leads to AMD spending a lot of money to maintain that small market share, and not lose it for having shit drivers, whilst also trying to keep staff that aren't going to jump ship to the guy next door.
>>109634008they don't show the clearance
>>109634029chinkyimagine not having a FAQ and literally sayingnoctua always has that shit
>>109633799The 1.6tbs are being sold for a third/quarter of their new price on ebay
>>109634009Their GPU architecture is hot garbage. It’s so bad that nvidia refuses to submit bids for Xbox and ps console chips because they’d be forced to support the hot garbage for backwards compatibility. Heard that directly from a very senior engineer at nvidia
>>109634029the measurement is right there
nvidia shills should get shot. they have shown themselves to be worse than apple fags in their knowledge about hardware and software.
>>109634029now this is podracing
>>109634379holy kek
>>109634379
nova lake might actually be good but it will land amidst the ram crisis. It will have bLLC which is like x3d and if you compare 270k plus gamibg performance to 9950x then they are about equal meaning intel really isnt behind except for the cache. Also nova lake will have new instructions which you retards dont comprehend anyways.
>>109630544Is right>>109630554>>109630556>>109630557Kys trannies
>>109631067It better be your girlfriend or you're a cuck
>>109634413You can't be so sure.
>>109634419>Also nova lake will have new instructions which you retards dont comprehend anyways.Why would I read instructions? Stupid!
>>109634441yeah i can.
>>109634460It could be fake.
>>109634263+10 rupees
>>109634419I can't believe there are anons here unironically thinking that avx10.2 is inferior to avx512 topkek
>>109634419Imagine if Nova Lake is revealed and they go>ha ha also it has DDR4 compatibility like 14th gen!>and we instructed motherboard makers to include both DDR4 and 5 slots on the same board! (2 exclusive slots for each)
>>109634576My imagination isn't so vivid and childlike to be able to do that.
>>109629665didn't think I'd see my own build here lol, what a surprise
Hello friends, I was recently playing wardogs and had fun. However my headset is old and shit, some very old hyper X oneWhat are people using these days? Ideally around 150/200 ish with a mic
>>109634419Even retards comprehend double the general purpose registers (I hope). The bllc SKUs will be beasts. Zen 6 relying on super high clocks to stay competitive is hilarious - AMDorks want to shit on Intel tdp (as they’ve done for many years now) while zen 6 will be as bad or worse. I have a feeling the x3d boost clock will be well below the none x3d counterparts
>>109634673i replaced a long lasting pair of hyperx cloud with steel series arctis 5x. works with all my consoles and pc, and the bluetooth is useful for watching tv at night. it's wireless but a charge lasts a week or two. the mic is also very good.
Why I am retarded? I remember seeing a 9070xt reaper from Microcenter for Msrp $600, now its $730, I thought it was a sign of things to go down.
>>109634745don't buy a reaper. buy a hellhound.
>>109634697I actually want lower clocks. Im running my 5800x3D within a 70W power limit. Perfectly fine for gamen
bought a 5800x3d to replace my 5700x3d (it is going to my mum's pc)I expect literally no actual upgrade, hopefully it's going to be able to do 3800mhz on the ram with 1.12 vsoc and -30 undervolt all cores
>>109634516It's just amdumb cope.
>>109634835you know. your mums pc would be better with a 5700x because it has a higher clock speed and runs cooler.
>>109634849I already have the 5700x3d, not buying a new cpu
>>109634745AMD launched 9070gre at 9070xt msrp price and you thought it was a sign of prices going down?
>>109634937the last gre had 16gb of vram
>>109633929>quietest cheap psu?You choose one, quiet fans are a premium in PSUs.be quiet! Pure Power 13 M, Power Zone 2, and Fractal Design Ion 3 are the more affordable PSUs with quieter fans in them.Cheaper PSUs might have quiet fans as well, but it's not as much of a guarantee as those three units.>>109633906You need to repaste the CPU & GPU. The thermal pads in the video card will need replacing as well.That card was released over 9 years ago.
Why aren't PSU fans modular? It doesn't seem like it'd be a hard ask to design ATX models to take any kind of 120-140mm. SFX I can understand if they need to choose a flatter type to fit and can't be arsed to make it removable.
>>109634998every psu fan is modular with a soldering iron
>>109633929I have a 1600w PSU running a 13900ks and 4090 and I do t think I’ve ever seen the fan turn on
>>1096350231600w psus cost as much as a 5070/5070ti
>>109634745Could be worse, you could have been retarded enough to buy an AMD GPU
>>109634743looks good thanks il go with that
>>109634595What case are you using?
Is there much of a performance hit from using one stick of DDR5 compared to two? Couldn't find any actual benchmarks on the internet, though seems like DDR5 uses dual channel even with one stick.
>>109635220>Couldn't find any actual benchmarks on the internethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nMu1KFkOC4
>>109635237That's a stupid comparison because it's using two independent variables. The proper test would be to compare 1x32 to 2x16
>>109635220Single channel is perfectly fine if you have an x3d CPU
>>109635269Yours is the more retarded test setup because fewer people are realistically considering a system with 1x 32GB DDR5 DIMM.His main objective is to show how much performance poorfag builders would lose if they settle for a 1x 16GB module while they save up for the 2x 16GB config.
>>109635304I'm considering it right now because it's significantly cheaper, hence the question.
>>109635326Single module config will always perform worse vs. a two DIMM DDR memory config at the same total capacity.You are halving available memory bandwidth when you use a single stick.1x 32GB only makes sense if you plan to get another stick in the future.That video's test condition is just fine, given the 1x 16GB performance wasn't degraded by having insufficient memory capacity.
>>109634745AMD hiked the prices a few times down.
>>109635434don't use it with a weak cpu because of the driver overhead, which isn't as bad as before but still worse than nvidia/radeon. enable reBAR in bios.
>>109635070Could have also bought Nvidia and uses Nvidia drivers
>>109635459https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfqGqj2bFj8watch this video
>>109635539that's good. you'll be fine then.
Is it a bad idea for CPU lifespan to turn on ASUS AI cache boost? According to them it "enables various optimizations" whatever that means and overclocks fclk to 2100MHz and I do notice a performance boost. My 9850x3D is running stable at -30mV on all cores at sub 80C under full load so should be fine orobably?
>>109635775i would never trust any form of ""optimization"" buttons from motherboard vendorseven more if it has ai in the name
helo I'm PC Gaming Man and I envy consolefags.
>>109635828Fair enough. That setting defaults to "auto" while allowing also enabled and disabled. This shit really pisses me off when there is an auto option with no explanation.
>>109635775As long as you monitor the temps you'll probably be fine. Though chances are you'll just get the lifespan of whatever ASUS considers the official number, rather than a lifespan of years on end as most non-OC'd CPUs will give you. Though it is annoying that ASUS never tells you what anything actually does.I just hate how downloading shit always seems to push my CPU to 75 in OC'd mode.
Should I use or disable all these "ASUS optimization" and "Game boost" features in BIOS? I'm too lazy to actually make a benchmark.
>>109636133>asus performance enhancement>offai tweaker or what it is called is just docp/ xmp i think
I have an i7-8700 (non K) and some random oem z370 taichi that I dumpster dived. Recently I came across an i7-9700 (non K) and I'm conflicted about whether to "upgrade" or not. The internet in general seems to think the 9700 is maybe kinda better, but it generally seems a wash.Do you guys have any opinions about the two chips that might help me solidify which way to go?
>>109636159Might be a waste of your time, do it if it's free.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-9700k/
>>1096361594chan won't load any faster and that's all that matters.
>>109636182Ironically, web is one of the few categories where you see some separation between the two, though it's still not much.From the anon above's link:https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-9700k/10.html>>109636175And yes, it's "free" - it was from a dumpster dive.
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>>1096362472500k was goat, I used mine for 8-10 years, then sold it as an office PC to a local school, then recovered it recently, because they got a bunch of new PCs. I'm wondering what should I use it for.
>>109636247This was the last time I built a PC. All the components on there I bought like the 2500k, HAF X, GTX 570 still werk today.
>>109632757At that point a used dumpster PC will get the job done
>chinese ram will sav- ACKnot even covering their own demand
>>109636247i built my first pc based on a logical increments guide over a decade ago now with one of these seasonic psu's (a rebrand of it). turns out those psu are complete garbage nowadays because of how modern gpu's tax psu's and that seasonic model is basically a housefire in waiting.
>>109636247if they had waited just a little more they would have gotten a Sandisk Ultra Plus 256gb ssd.
>>109636247>2600k & 120gb ssd & crossfire amd gpu used to be enthusiast
>>109636247My first self bult pc was cm690, phenom II 965, HD 5770. This is a pic when I upgraded gpu to 6970
>>109636247>Enthusiast aka insane>2x4 GB DDR3>$90
>>109636247>the 580 is a great card but its price is ridiculous>nvidia also has better driver support under linux>1920x1080 is very popular at the momentboy did these age like milknvidia price is ridiculousnvidia linux is dogshitdlss quality at 1440p is 1707x960 or less than 1920x1080
>>109636511Those PSUs simply weren't built to handle the level of transient spikes RTX 30 and RX 6000 cards caused.
>>109636247I wanna see how much FPS you can get in Crysis with the Enthusiast buildOr I think Crysis was still the king of game benchmarks by 2011 jan
>>109636582damn, leatherman got ripped
Wanting to build my own gabecube but my gpu is a powercolor 6950xt which is a fuckhuge 3 slot by 360mm brick. Are there any small footprint matx or itx cases that can fit a card like that (without costing a fortune) or am I limited to mid towers?
>>109634009Windows issue.
>>109635212lian li v100
>>109636247https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fu7HdsqKpE
>>109636677if I was autistic enough I'd get something like a Fractal Mood.
>>109636677you might be able to fit it in a vertical one like the coolermaster ncore 100, but that one supports up to 356mm, not 360. You'd need to get exact numbers.
>>109635434I got one with a 7600x and 32gb ddr5, works great but it still has issues with some games, especially on dx11 or older. CS2 for example out of the box performance genuinely fucking sucks, but launching it via vulkan fixes it. I get a very stable 160fps on 1440p max settings that way and no noticeable input latency, so very playable. But for some reason it uses over 90% of vram despite being more of a cpu heavy game. It's quite odd.
given all the leaks, would gta 6 be hard to run on PC?
>>109636703I like it, but it's at least 30mm too short for the gpu>>109636717I measured it a while ago and it was 360ish mm. Specs says the board is 330mm and the heatsink and plastic overhangs it by a bit so 360ish is about right.
>>109636842ask the leaker what specs he is running and if he can do a benchmark run
>>109636842They'll have higher graphics & crowd simulation settings that will be hard to run on current PCs.Should be fine on a mix of medium & high settings.
>>109636842I think it will run on switch
>>109636852Damn, get a new card then, but you could buy a mini-ITX video card at this point and a much smaller case too.
>therapist thinks I'm intelligent cause I can build pcsL M A O
>>109637117I'm sorry you're not good enough to have impostor syndrome.
https://www.techpowerup.com/351867/nvidia-power-limit-bypass-rtx-5090-oc-hits-700-w-rtx-5080-up-to-680-w-no-shunt-mod-neededwhats the current housefire build?
>>109637142somebody should test on a blackwell 6000. not me tho lol. i *could* buy another if it died but i dont want to.
>>10963714214900KMSfounders 5090
>>109637117>spent money on therapy instead of buying more computer hardwareNGMI
>>109637484this
>>109634835picrel for reference
My stupid MSI board likes to reset my XMP profile for no reason from time to time. I set it to 6400 and a couple of days later it will be back to 4800.I have given up and just accepted it being on 4800 now. I don't notice any difference anyway
>>109637557Your motherboard is laughing in your face and you accept it??
>>109637557>msihahahahahaahahahahah
>>109633762> for 3 extra framesI got the 5070Ti for PT and DLSS as well as playing with AI.If you can afford it you want it. Simple as.
>>109636842yes because the port will make ue5 games look like optimization masterpieces
>>109637607gta 5 ran on the ps3. they can clearly optimize if they want money.
>>109637557It's falling back to JEDEC 4800 MT/s after failing to train 6400 MT/s.You can manually set 6000 MT/s & 30-40-40 primaries.
I've purchased 2 8TB used Seagate drives for 195€ good deal?, can someone recommend some program to check their health when they arrive so I can give them back in 48 hours if they're fucked up
>>109637693why does it work for a couple of days and then randomly falls back then
Why can't I get EXPO working?CPU: Ryzen 5 8600GRAM: TEAMGROUP Vulcan DDR5-6000 2x8 GB CL 38-38-38-78 1.25VMobo: AsRock B850- BIOS has been updated to the latest version- RAM is on the mobo QVL list- I select EXPO under the DRAM profile for DDR5-6000 in UFEI and boot, still 4800 reporting to OS- Have tried restoring defaults and reapplying settings, no change- Have tried jumping CMOS and reapplying settings, no change- I did reseat the RAM but haven't had the chance to test it yet
>>109637738>bueno
>>109637758>CPU: Ryzen 5 8600Gbro?
>>109637741Probably because 6400 MT/s is unstable.
>>109637808i got scammed by the chinese once again
>>109637819prob just your cpu and mobo. just run 6000mhz
>>109630160msi popular in germany b series many features#50 series is for amd
>>109637819Not every AM5 CPU can run 6400 MT/s speed in 1:1 MCLK:UCLK (memory clock to memory controller clock) mode.https://www.kingston.com/en/blog/pc-performance/amd-gear-modes-uclk-mclk-fclk-why-theyre-important
>>109637758try EXPO 2 and if that fails try downgrading your bios
>>109637819if you want to test if its the memory or your cpu, run in div2 modeif your retarded ass can handle that
>>109636133maybe computer skips memory train more often then
>>109637738badblocks
>>109637865it doesn't matter what i set it at, there are 3 XMP profiles. after a couple of days it's back at 4800>>109637874i have a Ultra 7 265K>>109637908elaborate
>>109637795Not for gaymen. If you want to buy me a GPU lmk.>>109637877I'll play around with the other profiles but I did try XMP to no effect.
>>109638026Switch to slow memory training mode.Disable Fast Boot in both BIOS & Windows.
I ordered a pc for 3000 bucks but i cancelled the order just after because of regret
>>109638081you gonna regret canceling that order
>>109638093i only ordered the pc to play cs2 in the first placei guess ill just stick to my stinkpad and xbox
>>109638112cs2 sucks anyway
>>109638047Too much voodoo magicDidn't have to do this with my 8700kI hate the Antichrist
Which AM4 CPU is good for gaming?
>>109638118hence why i cancelled itbut really the main reason was it didn't feel good when i ordered pc parts that are already a year old (amd)ill probably wait until the next generation of cpus and gpus come. maybe a camm2 ram also, and pay whatever it will cost
>>109631304I will never be at that power level. >8GB DDR3 was once considered insaneWe have to go back.
>>1096381325500 for destitute builds5600/X(T) for budget-X3D CPUs for higher performance gaming.
>>1096381325500 is about as fast as a 3600 while costing the same as a 3600 used to cost5600X is the one you want to buy5700X is even better5800X3D for AM4 maxxingused 5700X3D is also gud5500X3D is a hard sell
>>109638132i got a 5600 for free years ago and it's still going strong. Will it bottleneck newer and stronger GPUs? yes, but the difference in prices between the 5600 and the X3D series plus the availability depending where you live makes it a good deal
>>109630389put on earbuds, set noise very highdo this a couple of time and you wont hear the high pitch noise anymore
>>109631304>Games aren't that CPU dependenttell that to ParadoxHigh cpu usage is their company policy like how Intel has the policy to make their CPU's TDP as high as possible
>imagine having compromises when building a PCLol!
>>109638389coil whine can also be a lower frequency hissing
>>109638389thanks for the tip, pablo.
>>109638081I recently started doing this whenever I want to impulse buy something:Instead of spending money on whatever shit I want to buy, I put that money in my investment portfolio, then I wait a week. If I still want to get it, then I take out the money (as long as it's up, if it's down then I wait longer) and then buy it. This way I still get that dopamine rush of spending money, but I spend it on something that's actually good for me.I started cutting back on take out and just buying random shit in general (I blame the chink shit general) by doing this.
Don't want to start a new thread for this but where do I get a windows 11 pro key for cheap? Need bitlocker for a remote job but literally all these reddit mfs are bots I don't trust this vendafly Groupon bullshit
>>109638617Check the windows thread.
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/QdnDJwThoughts?
>>109638639Wasting money on shipping for that CPU cooler, get this.https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/3cHp99/be-quiet-pure-rock-pro-3-596-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk042You should compare prices for AM5 CPU + motherboard alternatives.
>>109638639That CPU cooler isn't going to cool down that CPU effectively.
>>109632166like do you need itx because if you do then yeah go for it any other itx board will be triple the price
is it bad if I did an USB windows reinstall and only installed GPU drivers? gpu is nvidia geforce gtx 1070ti, CPU is i3-10105, cpu drivers (probably motherboard too) are generic microsoft ones (os is windows 10 if that matters). will this negatively affect gaming performance or am I good to go?
>>109638418I was playing CK2 for years on my office laptop with Intel i3 6006U, never had any issues. Can't imagine a grown up CPU from an actual PC having troubles running such games, unless it's from Athlon era, but even then I'm not sure.
>>109638680Pc part picker doesn't pick up the prices right for everything, it's actually 29€https://www.amazon.it/Arctic-Freezer-Black-Single-Heatsink/dp/B09VH14935>>109638689What do you mean? What should I get instead?
i need an aircooler recommendation for my 5800x3d. i don't think my arctic freezer 34 esports duo is cutting it anymore?
>>109638748So you installed the GPU drives AND the motherboard drivers? Then that's fine. If you only installed the GPU drivers then you can't use the wifi, networking, bluetooth, sound from your motherboard. But I guess you can live without those, technically.
>>109638761>What do you mean? What should I get instead?ARCTIC Freezer 36 CPU Cooler has a TDP of 219W. Your CPU goes up to 250W. You will not cooldown that CPU with that cooler. Get the one that was posted instead, the be quiet one.
>>109638779ahh well I only installed gpu drivers, but I don't use wireless internet. I have an ethernet that's connected to my pc. I get im probably coming across as dumb, but i'm completely new to this stuff and am learning along the way since I never had a gaming setup like this before. im mostly worried about chipset drivers for the motherboard I guess, because some people say you should install those before you get the gpu drivers. I still have questions though. does using generic microsoft ones negatively affect gaming? is it ok to download Intel ME consumer chipset drivers after installing gpu drivers from my motherboard manufacturer's website? (ASUS in this case)
>>109638752pretty sure even loading into the game takes a while on CK. stellaris loading into a game is slow enough that steve from gay mrs next us will use it as a cpu benchmark and stress test.
>>109638829Just install them. If it did affect gaming it's still within the margin of error so you can't notice it at all. Drivers makes your PC work. If it doesn't work then gaming is the least of your worries.
>>109638639you should get a AIO for that intel housefireunless you enjoy the sounds of fans spinning at 80-100% while gaming
what do you need a desktop pc for in 2026?dont you have laptops and phones?
>>109638867Loading does take time, but the gameplay is flawless. I heard that super late games might be CPU heavy but I personally never encountered lags.
when my m3 macbook pro dies im either upgrading to the m15 imac or the m15 mac mini. idk yet.
>>109638799Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention. I've done some research, and it appears no air cooler can handle 250W:https://www.techpowerup.com/review/arctic-freezer-36-s-a-rgb-cpu-air-cooler/7.htmlIf I am reading this correctly
which fast-IPS monitors run at low temperature? i can't find any reviews or information about heat output. the current monitor i use, radiates enough heat i can feel it.
>>109639052just get a 144hz screen and set it to 120hz
>>109639016you really need a AIO for intel housefiresunless you have a super awesome case it will reach 100c and it will throttle, caused your game to not be smooth
>>109639058>just endure the heat>just endure the motion blurcan i get another answer? this one is retarded.
>>109639072>what is efficiency>why can i undervolt my gpu by a few mv and lower my power consumption drastically while keeping most of the performance>more hz = less motion blur>what are slow pixels????
>>109639016Yes, if you're doing CPU intensive tasks 10 hours a day I would go water cooler or AIO.You can cool it with an air cooler but you will hear the fans since it will run at 100% speed all the time and it will thermal throttle. If you're just gaming then air cooler is fine, but fans are still at 100% RPM. But if you're encoding videos or rendering 3D models or videos then go AIO.
>>109639052Disregard efficiency; acquire desktop sun
>>109639083anon. lowering GPU power does fuckall to a monitor's thermal output.
>>109639097in this case you would lower the hz of the screen by a bit and make it run at peak efficiency. that example works for car engines, gpus, cpus and every sort of device that converts energy into heat.
>>109638773Thermalright Phantom Spirit if you want something affordable.Thermalright makes good heatsinks for Ryzen CPUs, but fan quality is a bit lacking.Pure Rock Pro 3 or Mugen 6 Dual Fan for better fan build quality.
>>109639097>>109639102display brightness also doesn't scale linearly with power consumption and heat generation.
>>109639083>>109639102so why is it, when i measure the power draw from the main, the monitor pulls the same while at 120hz or 165hz?
>>109639137you have a shit monitor and psu for that monitor :^)
Best brand for the cheapest bottom of the barrel 360 aios (like 30-50 bucks on scamazon) that can be trusted to not shit the bed and most importantly not leak? It's only for a 5600x so testicle freezing performance isn't necessary, it's only because it lives in a garage that gets up to like 105 in the summer so it hits 95c practically instantly even with the fans on full blast (including 3x 150mm deltas on the front).
>>109639170All aio’s shit the bed
going to install my first AIO build tomorrowanything i should know? Mounting it on a AM5 should not be too different from mounting a aircooler on a intel board, right?
>>109639170*120mm 150cfm deltas
>>109639052anyone with a real answer?
>>109639170All AIOs break.Get an air cooler for lower performance but lasts the longest since you only replace the fans every 20 years.Get an AIO which is expensive for better performance, but have to replace every 5 years because of condensation.Get water cooler which the most expensive but the best performance. Replace the pump every 10 years or so. Also do maintenance every year.
>>109639188Buy an air conditioner you pansy
>>109639052You lower the monitor's brightness levels if you want to reduce the amount of heat it emits.
>>109639170Liquid Freezer III Pro White 240mm is discounted to $35 @ Amazon US.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKXCFLPNCheck Arctic's eBay page for refurbished AIOs (currently OOS).These are usually returned because of case/motherboard fitment issues.https://www.ebay.com/str/arcticofficialstoreusa
>>109639182>>109639204I get that, but which brand is the best of the low end>>109639285$35 plus 15 shipping, plus I'm looking for a 360. Good tip about arctic tho.
how are these parts, picrel +ryzen 5 5600rtx 1660 ti16gigs ddr4 (allready have)ssd +hdd (allready have)Case undecided yetNo gayming, just multitasking, photoshop, raw photo editing, batch actions, browse pajeet threads
>>109629841>8gb is well pricedgot some real bad news for you
uh. guys? Did Wayland fix its vram pigging?
>>109639555checked. imo always get an aio. Like the only super good reason not to get one is if you live somewhere super crazy like the arctic.
>>109639886clanker says:>Mesa 26.2.1 (Released August 20, 2026)could be why. on amd.
>>109639894>get an aio what's an aio ? all in one ? is this supposed to be a le leddit brainlet joke or something ? i don't get it..
>>109639886cant you just restart the dwm like windows
>>109639972like this:>>109639285
>>109639874it doesn't have enough VRAM, so it's not well priced at any price.
>>109639188look at the wattage of the monitor.that shit don't lie.heat output can be gauged relative to the wattage.some makers use a power brick on the outside to reduce heat at the screen.
>>109640048>can't run cyberpunk.Sounds like a feature.
>>109640026my bad lol..nah i can't stand these watercoolers and the hype around it.3 big ass extra fans...rather have one quiet one and it'll be a 5600 anyways.
>>109640095aio are gentler on your motherboard.
>>109639052I think you need an e-ink display
>>109639555You boomers need to stop buying the Freezer 36https://youtu.be/YY-8PZKcMYg?t=1540
>>109640178Honestly, just get an aio lol.aios are extremely smart. There are probably reasons to use an aio that I haven't thought of.One is way easier shipping.
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i just buyded a noctua 360mm whatever aio.
>>109639183you might want to consider using a contact plate for the socket instead of the oem motherboard latch.
>>109639052I don't remember lcds actually being hot, are they hot?I could understand a miniled pumping hdr maybeI did notice on oled monitors however, literally warmedge lit lcd? I don't think it's hotbut idk>>109639086lg are kings of overpricing their shit and then running steep salesimpressive that that monitor is not pure smear however it seems to have decent pixel transitionsone dollar per hz
>>109641091It really depends on the monitor for lcdsMy old 60hz Samsung lcd ran as cool as a cucumber and never had issues but my 27" LG lcd ran so hot that it delaminated the glass layer from the liquid crystal layer along the edges which showed up as white spots
