is this good or shit
it's ok"overpriced" but if you have money to burn that's fine
>>109631906>Dell finally got rid of the 20 year old chasis covered in plasitc bullshit.Still shit though.
>>109631908>$7000 for a gpu with 12GBThat's not going to hold up.
>>109631916My $700 pc has 12GB too, works fine
If you are the target consumer for that shit computer, you should kill yourself
>>109631908He can build this exact machine himself for 4k CAD and then make a bonfire with the other 3k
>>109631906You deserve less.
>>109631906Buy your own components and have a pc builder make it for you. If they fuck it up they are liable for that shit. 7k with only 16gb of VRAM Is crazy. You can get a 5090 and upgrade all the other shit in the future. You can get 9900x, and a gen 4 SSD to
>>109631916>>109631936relax fags, i know i know i know i know
>>109631906>$5000 USD for a RTX 5070Sheitttt
>>109631906> windows 11 homeHahahahahahhahahuhahaha ah you gotta be kitten me. All that power and customization, and they could even get you windows pro? Get pro, or ask for your money back.
Arch Linux
>>109631906IF you're using the configuration tool cut back on the RAM and to 32GB and possibly the CPU to a Ryzen 7 and put that money towards upgrading the GPU. I would need to see a 5080, maybe a 5070ti at bare minimum for that price. Basically right now your GPU is the weakest link for tasks like gaming, so putting more money towards that would be better (at least I'm assuming that's why you're asking).
>>109631906I seen you post this on /pol/ earlier.
>>109631906The system is worth HALF as muchEven by today's standards.Fuck dell.
>>109631906Lol
>>109631906ROFLwelcome to clown world where tech that's been on the market for three years has inflated to nearly four times it's literal worthThis is just manufacturers capitalizing on the masses finally figuring out about desktop computing, is it not?
>>109631906>$7000 for a 5070bro...
>>109631906it's fucking trash bro. $7k and you're paying $6k of that for markup on RAM and SSD. Fucking 5070 build in any sane economy would be a $1800 msrp at best. just give up on PC gaming, it's dead. buy a m6 pro macbook pro when they launch next month instead, you'll still have $5k in your pocket and have a machine that will retain 80% of it's value after 3 years.
>>109631906the GPU is shit, should be at least 5070 ti
>>109631906What's your IQ?
>>109631906C$6,949.99?! Yeah, that's a completely different level of insanity.For the exact configuration you posted:9950X3D — genuinely high-end CPURTX 5070 12GB — upper-midrange GPU64GB DDR5-64001TB Gen5 NVMeX870E-class platform1500W Platinum PSU360mm AIOAlienware chassisI'd still put the parts-equivalent retail value around C$4,000–4,500, depending on what you pay for the motherboard, PSU, chassis, and SSD.So C$6,949.99 CAD means they're paying roughly C$2,500–3,000 of Alienware/Dell premium.And the really funny part is the allocation:C$6,950 computer RTX 5070At that total system price, I'd expect the GPU to be dramatically higher-end. The 9950X3D isn't the problem—it is probably the best component in the machine relative to its class. The 5070 is where the configuration starts looking like Dell had a leftover batch of GPUs and needed somewhere to put them.If anon is buying it because they specifically want the Area-51, fair enough. If they think they're getting C$6,950 worth of performance, though… they're buying an Alienware experience, not C$6,950 worth of silicon.
>>109631906C$6,949.99 and Dell still gives them Windows 11 Home.At that price, Pro's license cost is basically rounding error. The hardware is ostensibly a premium workstation/gaming platform—9950X3D, 64 GB RAM, 1500 W PSU, X870E-class board—and they're saving a few tens of dollars by putting Home on it.And Home isn't merely "Pro with fewer cosmetic features." You're giving up things like:BitLocker management capabilitiesHyper-VWindows SandboxRemote Desktop hostGroup PolicyDomain/Entra-style business management featuresFor a C$7,000 desktop, I'd absolutely expect Pro to be standard.It's especially funny given that the machine already has 64 GB of RAM and a 16-core CPU. That's precisely the kind of system where someone might actually use virtualization, development tooling, or administrative features that Pro enables.
>>109631906you are a fool if you give dell money for this tower.
>>109631906go on facebook marketplace and build it the hard earned way.
>>109631908You can't charge Apple prices on a ghetto rig.
>>109632944Oh but they can
>>109631906wait for rtx spark
>>109631906I'm going to say... overpriced, but I'm only estimating when it comes to canuckbux. If you want a prebuild, I'd go somewhere else other than Dell-Alienware or the other megacorps, generally. If you're not getting big savings or something unique, its probably better off to just build your own. That said... some of the specs shown>9950X3D I would HIGHLY suggest either A) if you know you need and can use more than 8 cores, then to get the 9950X3D2 instead. It has extra cache and more importantly it is symmetrical, the first of its kind for AMD so far on 2 CCD chips. This keeps you from having the "Cache CCD + Speed CCD" shit that means its up to your OS to figure out which cores clock to which level and which have extra cache etc, which sometimes causes issues. You have the option now, take 9950X3D2 - the "2" here is only slightly more expensive but cleans up tons of headaches, plus has more performance too. or if you are just using it for mainstream gaming or less, B) get a 9800X3D / 9850X3D , which is 8c/16t based, a single CCD and cache. If you dont' use heavily multithreaded stuff this will serve well. >OS Windows 11 HOME for fucks' sake? Jesus christ, at very least you should get pro for that cost. Anyway, you can use whatever OS you want but if you come to /g/ you should be ableto install it yourself so if you have an option to install your own OS, do that instead. Linux is preferable for many, but even if you go Windows get Pro or one of the Enterprise variants that you can customize>GPU 5070What are your needs for this? If you need it for gaming or other GPU heavy work, I suggest either a NV 5090 ,but if you're below that you're better off to save a fuckload and get an AMD 9070XT. If you absolutely had to get NV (which I dont' find advisable this gen except for 5090) then 5070 Ti is the way to go for better performance. 5080 is an expensive halfass waste. Still, 9070XT probably best bet ; no room cont
>>109632992Cont>RAM 64gbThis is the right option for a higher end machine and the speed is about right, but generally you want some 6000mhz CL30 with other good timings, or thereabouts for the sweet spot for easy performance. >SSD 1 fucking TB?! You don't know if that's a garbage drive or not as they label it. For a system drive with any of the other hardware included, you want at least 2TB, preferably 4TB for a M.2 SSD. The gen5 bit doesn't necessarily matter for most home usage, but it does if it has DRAM or not, if its 3D TLC or not etc. I'd suggest something like a Samsung 9100 Pro / 990 Pro , WD BLACK SN8100 / SN850X, etc.. for a primary drive with good performance, but really any high end DRAM-included PCIE5 or 4 drive with 3D / V-NAND will be just fine. If you want a SATA 2.5" drive for extra space, storage of installed games or local AI etc...then Samsung 870 EVO is pretty much the drive you want. >Chassis, PSU, CoolerThat DellAlienware chassis is their knockoff of whatever is popular at the moment, but you can obviously find plenty similar or better. It all comes down to how much and what you want to spend. I'm old and grumpy and generally am annoyed with "glass fishtank" cases without any room for 3.5 or 5.25" bays , but if you want that sort of thing at least look for thhe original in the LianLi O11D series. Oh and if you buy a prebuild, look into System76 which has a nice set of made-in-USA aluminum cases under the Thelio/Nebula line; the only downside is that they are built pretty much for their prebuild arrangement, but that's another discussion; they're high quality and good if they fit your use case. Some Platinum rate PSU tells you little, you want something ATX3.1 / PCIE 5.1 compatible for newest standards. Look at how much wattage you need with your target PSU and then buy one up. I'm partial to Seasonic and FSP who make their own PSUs and do very well.360mm AIO; Arctic Liquid Freezer III is often best.
>>109633062you shout for the 4tb nvme (in this economy!) but 128gb is enough for a boot drive as long as you have a secondary m.2 slot on the board. they can be had for ten or twenty dollars on ebay and fn marketplace. I've been doing budget builds for my enjoyment and that's the best route I've found to get to windows with the least trouble. no performance difference for my use case and smart was 100%.
>>109634594i mean to say you can expand later and keep c:\windows and it's tendrils off of your storage drive.
>>109631906and go with iot ltsc id you don't mind troubleshooting. smaller image. less bloat. smaller footprint (if properly configured then even smaller). check out winutil. I'm not much for eleven. even with the rewrite I'll probably never update from ten. i have updates set to manual. my system does what i tell it to do. and it just works(tm).
>>109634787fuck bill gates and his epstein ass:irm https://get.activated.win | iexmy negroes don't pay for windows.
>>109631906Not really, it has a 5070 and buying a 5070 in this shitty market, when the Ps6 is near, is really stupid. You will be outclassed day1. Wait, if you can.
>>109631916I bought a RTX 3060 with 12GB a couple of years ago for 400€ (new).VRAM matters for AI and for high res gaming afaik.
>>109634892vram matters for gaming because devs are continually incompetent. you're better off getting a 24gb pascal accelerator for inference. it is less prohibitively expensive snd you don't prop up the nvidia bubble in the process of acquiring it.
>>109634809the ps6 is irrelevant. console hardware is irrelevant.
>>109632753I can't readFuck you
>>109631908>>109631906No, it's fucking trash at that price range >AlienwareIs this 2008?
>>109631906I'd rather have a 9800x3d and a 5080 than a 9950x3d and a 5070tiYou also don't need a 1500w PSU with that setup. 1000w would work fine
