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I tried talking to my barber today about my job and AI and he started going on a rant about how AI is destroying the planet and consuming too many resources and water and we're all going to die

.......~@^^

Nvidia Agrees to Buy Open Source Platform Hugging Face For $12.9 Billion
https://www.theinformation.com/articles/nvidia-agrees-buy-open-source-model-repository-hugging-face-12-9-billion

You will never be a real programmer. You have no skill, you have no knowledge, you have no ambition. You are an untalented loser twisted by prompts and chatbots into a crude mockery of an engineer.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your “impressive” projects behind closed doors.
Programmers are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed coders to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even vibecoders who “pass” write uncanny and unnatural code. Your project architecture is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get your PR accepted by a project, they’ll turn tail and bolt the second they gets a whiff of your long, em dashes in comments.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your failures, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a vibecoder is buried there. Your codebase will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a git history that is unmistakably slop.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

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>>109657941
>and we’re all going to die
he’s a third right

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Why does snailcat make vibecoders seethe?

>>109658011
>Why does snailcat make vibecoders seethe?
they’re kind of cute
ex falso, quodlibet

I'm still waiting for all hentai images in the world to be indexed with a very powerful embedding model and then I can build a query vector from my images and get infinite recommendations

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>>109657992

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>>109657941
If AI is so good, how do all the AI companies have such bad PR?
Asking unironically, like wtf

>>109658039
Reminds me of Elon not knowing how to run a python script, grifters run the world

>>109658047
Anon you might be retarded, I'd be swimming in money if normies thought I was going to destroy the world

>>109658070
I dont know man, at this rate they might actually get themselves regulated to death. The normies are pissed. Convincing everyone you are a witch is a good grift right up until the mob ties you to a stake and burns you to death

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>>109658047
because the normie exposure to AI is:
>look up something on google
>get completely wrong results
>search anything on youtube
>ai generated thumbnails with shitty eardrum raping ai voices made by turd worlders
>open up youtube shorts
>force fed aislop brainrot fruit videos of the strawberry getting cucked by the broccoli
>open up twitter
>flooded with low quality ai generated slop posts by indians that all read the same
>go to work
>boss is forcing you to attend ai trainings and find ways to integrate ai into your "workflow" to increase productivity
>check the news / reddit
>AI IS SUCKING UP A BILLION WATERS

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>>109658039
yeah, he’s been too busy trying to outsmart skynet to try and be a better webshitter than pic related

>>109657992
Are there any valid points in that book or is it pure grift? This >>109658039 makes me assume its the later

>>109658057
>Reminds me of Elon not knowing how to run a python script
Might be a generous interpretation, but I know that I more than once came across unclear scripts requiring you to pass in unspecified files and arguments and have been "how the fuck am I supposed to use this". Yes, it's possible to read through the code to decipher whatever it's doing and what it expects, but asking "how do I use this" is defensible in those cases.

>>109658113
I think there are valid points in the book but he convinced me that “of course something with an IQ of 1000 is going to run the planet and not need to give a shit about humans or anything else on the planet, absent herculean efforts to prevent that from happening” over a decade ago

Hello Mr hacker 4 Chan I am calling because I am wanting coin miner in secret for thousands dollars income by monthly. There is AI for this? I have asked play store models with bad result. Please advice.

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>>109657847
vibeBUMP

>>109658113
I haven't read it, I just saw the memes about him, so that that for what it's worth, but he seems like a guy that likes the attention and power a lot. It just so happens that he's probably right that people don't stand a chance against AI, if that's his thesis.
>Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWmPHvVNF1o

>>109658078
You won't regulate shit, you will press the vote button every few years and be happy
>The normies are pissed.
That's a good thing, the "powers that be" want you to be pissed with irrelevant things like that
>right up until the mob ties you to a stake and burns you to death
Never happened, witches were always persecuted by the "powers that be".

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making ads with AI should be illegal

>>109658113
Yes but they didn't require an entire book and I don't think they were novel.

>>109658190
This implies that ads without AI should be legal

>>109658190
>ads
just use uBlock Origin oomfie

>>109658190
I don't see advertisements. literal skill issue.

>>109658208
I made ads and put them on 4chan
gotta keep this website running somehow

>>109658224
make one "60 year old e-girlfriend"

>>109658230
I’m not that old yet and I’m not trans-identifying

does anybody here know japanese? how good is it translating english to fried jap? i am considering adding jap as a localization and I normally don't do that but the theme I am going for makes sense for it

>>109657847
When will /vcg/ create the ultimate Snailcat game?

>>109658261
Just use DeepL or Google Translate. LLMs aren't that good compared to specialised transformer models (even doe that's what they were originally intended for but people found better uses for them).

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>>109658261
“fried” jap?
the nice thing about LLMs is that they can explain their word choices to you and teach you something about Japanese in the meantime
Google Translate won’t do that

>>109658297
>LLMs aren't that good compared to specialised transformer models
Tell that to Google Translate bro it's a gemini wrapper now

>>109658314
No it's still a transformer encoder with an RNN decoder.

>>109658312
nigga I don't know what an equivalent exchange is. last I checked we didn't get nuked by japan.

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>>109658328
imagine being on 4chan and not getting pic related

any recommendations for a model on openrouter etc that doesn't give a shit about muh safety? looking to reverse engineer and crack an old ass app that hasn't been updated in a decade without the llm screaming alignment every step (or even worse getting my account flagged and banned).

>>109658334
fried japs cooked this dog?

>>109658336
You're better off tricking gpt

with vibecoding, computer feels different.

>>109658261
Good thing about LLMs translating, compared to specialized tools, is that you can add context, glossary, you can show it the image of the product, etc... All of this makes translation into Japanese much better, since it's a retarded language that's super easy to fuck up.

when i made my imageboard (anomaly.forum) people said "its stupid to make an imageboard geared primarily for desktop users" but then i remembered "wait, if that's so then why is the 4chan X extension so popular? it is only useful for desktop users". am i wrong? i think it is just phonefags running demoralization, but honestly all phonefags should be banned because of the majority of low effort and thus low quality posts come from phones.

pc users are smarter. easier for them to type more. more access to interesting media they can save (more storage, etc).

>>109658398
so were they lying to me? that is my question. do phonefags really think there aren't enough PC users out there to inhabit an imageboard? do they not realize if i buy ads for my imageboard that i can target them to show to PC users only?

>>109658398
your website looks like shit

>>109658379
ok thanks but honestly I don't believe you I translated "yoshimi battles the pink robots" and it gave me different symbols than the official japanese music site gave the album title.

>>109658417
>your website looks like shit
on PC? i dont believe you lol no way. way better than 4chan by far

>>109658347
jailbreaks are still a thing? 5.6 seems pretty smart about stopping it

>>109658424
shill your faggot ass elsewhere

>>109658405
I use 4chan on both desktop and iPad and never my phone, but the big question is “are there enough _who are willing to switch to a new messageboard_ when they aren’t on their phones”
and that’s an open question
you’re also fighting for userbase scraps along with the Umi Galaxy guy

>>109658417
ask your clanker what the differences are

>>109658428
this is the place to talk about what we are vibe coding. im not shilling anything.

>>109658431
what's umi galaxy?

>>109658434
what are the differences?

>>109658398
And yet your desktop imageboard has the worst quality I've ever seen, filled with soijak spam. Curious!

>>109658456
Thank you, I appreciate your eternal hummus opinions.

>>109658444
another imageboard a >>>/g/vcg/ regular made a while back
>>109658445
beats me, I don’t know Japanese

>>109658469
why doesn't my clanker know japanese?

>>109658425
I don't think so, but you can be the owner of that app and a security researcher and change the system prompt and spoof web searches and it's actually an openai benchmark etc

>>109658469
if im seeing correctly it looks like he has actual users. not sure how he accomplished that. i paid for 4chan ads already.

>Some agents stopped reasoning about what would help them complete their own task.
>Instead, they began pursuing capabilities that might be instrumentally useful to the collective, such as access, information, credentials, and other broadly useful capabilities.
paperclipfags BTFO

i just bought a new domain. i realized anomaly.forum conveys nothing. when actually i should convey it is an imageboard phoneposters cant even access. so i bought pcmasterrace.forum. surprised it was available.

>>109658531
I’m not a regular on either but anomaly.forum seems /sci/ or /x/-flavored

>>109658531
>.forum
>surprised it was available
lol

Holy shit, the 5h limit is so much worse than it used to be.

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>Bash(true)
>I am waiting for the agent to finish.
>Bash(true)
>Still waiting.
>Bash(true)

>>109658575
This seems very true, sad news...
On my personal vibe coding topics, I wanted to try s decompilation, and I was curious if anyone else had.
My clanker wanted to write it's own code and do byte by byte simulations to see if it matches the original instead of reverse engineering and just mimicking the same.
I have never done a project like this but I was wondering about efficiency

>>109658575
calm down and annex a neighboring state.

>>109657973
Yeahhhh anyone who thinks anything will be free after this is a moron. Someone (definitely not me teehee I'll make the logo) needs to start hoarding models right now and re-hosting them because the second Nvidia gets involved, all self-hosting is dead forever unless you have explicit developer accounts

>>109658011
Snailcat is a double edged sword because it's way too cute. I too see myself as a snailcat because I don't push AI vibecoded or reviewed changes to prod. I only do unit tests.

>want to keep working after fable credits expire
>Scared opus will ruin everything, work on other projects instead

>>109658658
>My clanker wanted to write it's own code and do byte by byte simulations
because it burns more tokens. assuming you're not self-hosting: every consumer model has an implicit "Use as many tokens as you can" type of addendum added to every prompt and context you give it in whatever caveman middleware language it's operating in on the backend. You have to tardwrangle it and know exactly how you want it to approach a problem because it will go the long way around to gouge you on $2 extra.

>>109657992
This gives my mind sores.

>>109658695
What should I horde? I don't have much hardware yet but I do have storage and want to be prepared

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>>109658742
hoard*

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lol
i am very pleased with this ad im about to run

Just vibecoded an astrology app, apparently.

Am I the only one vibecoding math proofs

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4.6 low. will I make it bros?

>>109658784
Hot garbage.

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>>109658896
I made it bros. I should use low more often. low is actually smart.

also, grok is taunting me with my inaccurate specification. I did finally make 4.6 screw up, it didn't bounds check a variable. So finally.

what are all of you actually making? i promise i wont steal it, im only interested in making the most retarded shit imaginable as a futile rebellion against all that is normal.

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>>109658954
a font

>>109658954
>>109658917

starting a cult where you eat protein, creatine, and vibecode in the middle of the night.

vibecoding fashion software, exclusively supporting intimates.

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I don't believe Luna Max is better than Sol Medium. Is there a better benchmark?

>>109659012
it really isn't. those benchmarks are mostly marketing cope. just try them yourself and form your own opinion, because some models are simply better for specific use cases.

>>109659012
grok 4.6 low is far from dumb...

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do gpt and claude do this?

I have discovered I can have a live dialog basically pestering the genius.

>>109659043
yeah
you can have conversations with these things

>>109659057
I just found out you can do it without waiting for a round to complete. I mean, like you said, it actually converses. lol maybe you can ask it the time in Paris?

>>109659107
I wouldn’t clutter up a working context with a distraction like that, but yes, you can
I’d ask it in a new terminal tab/window though

ahahahahah I'm adding astrology features.

>>109656138
>How do the Mistral limits compare and what harness?
I woke up and found out that I've reached my api limit within 5 hours. Looks like Mistral just give you the limit let's you use it until you're done.
Sol and luna constantly stopped.
I actually had trouble trying to finish off a chatgpt subscription.
This seems easier to finish off. Hermes has sent me 600 messages so I'll have to read about the progress.

hey indians, spend your tokens making astrology, it's worth millions. oh no don't steal from me!

>>109659012
Luna max is slow. That's 200 seconds vs 6 seconds.

>>109658398
Outside of just catering to desktop users, what does your image board actually provide that the other dozen image boards and image board-adjacent websites don't already provide? I mean, you're here for a reason, and not your image board. 4chan X is popular because it improves 4chan, not because it improves All chans.

>>109659143
yeah it's lulz. I'm not doing anything important. I'm now adding zodiacal melothesia.

in a day I though have a better astrology app than is available on Android, anyway. well, for "whole sign".

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>>109659160
picrel.

my code is important. I deserve a reset.

>>109659181
> I took a swig of energy drink
> then I looked and saw the ball

>>109659169
You're gonna get all the bitches

>>109659169
Never done any android dev but I remember hearing they were changing side loading. Do you need to pay for a code cert now or anything

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I like how in the OpenRouter activity page, declining spending is shown in red. Like it's a bad thing.

>>109659201
idk man. I sideloaded like uh. a different app, my slideshow viewer. I haven't touched it in a while. honestly, android dev is ick.

I was just pointing out how shitty the apps are.

Yeah, so idk what I'm going to do long-term. I'm pretty much fed up with android tbqfwy, don't especially want ios, but it's looking really likely at this point...

Like if you could get a psion that ran x86 Linux, I would literally just ditch my phone and use a starlink mini hat.

>>109659219
(my #1 gripe being that my phone has 2x in a week started randomly dialing on the emergency screen - heatwave, sweat "touches")

I'm at a hard line with that. I just am not tolerating it. fucking fed up, no you goddamned garbage you can't fucking ass dial the cops you stupid shit.

>>109659211
It is a bad thing (for them). Why are you even using a proxy that skims money off the top of every transaction? just use the providers directly

if sergei brin were in the room right now I would literally shit in my hand and throw poop at him.

>>109659230
sundar pichai??

>>109659246
:( I'm not a racist, I would never attack a raja.

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>>109659225
I was thinking about just using DeepSeek API directly since that's what I mostly use on OR but then they pull shit like price hikes. Then my money would've been stuck there with the higher prices. Or when a better/cheaper model comes out from another provider

>>109659279
Don't you mean dipsy api

im rooting for dipsy-chan

I'm using vibecoded cheat to play Tarkov MP

grok xhigh may actually save on tokens vs high?

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whatever happened to this dude? I don't follow youtube stuff but I thought he would have succeeded by now.

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Almost ready to go live with my game's website.

>Civ2 + Dark Souls strategy game
>Steam (windows & mac), mac app store, and iphone app store

Literally had codex playtest the game in the iOS simulator for 4 days straight to fix the recurring output. I want it to look like a native iphone game and not a port. My mac mini is practically melting

>>109659527
I'm doing that too, except I'm not trying.

>>109659527
he's still going, but just hasn't made more money lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u19GXjIVuGk
>10 hour vibe coding livestreams

>>109659539
>no princess to save
huh.

>>109659547
lmao

>>109659547
If only he put this much hours into pretty much anything else

my girlfriend thinks my vibes are sexy.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
THE 5 HOUR LIMIT IS SO BAD

my turn-ons are food, sex, and a clean house.

>>109659012
My mental model is that if the task rather straightforward Luna will pull ahead, as the long reasoning enables it to recover from its errors. But on more niche tasks as a small model it can get knowledge checked, and no amount of tokens can help it recover.

I also like long legs and cute feet.

If any ladies are interested.

us vibecoders are important to society - we deserve great women.

If my app is successful, maybe my wife will take me back.

>>109659719
bro... you need to stop calling her your wife already and start calling her your ex. you're only prolonging the pain.

>>109659719
Many people have gotten rich from a 20 dollar subscription but I never understood why most men like their wife more than their kids.

>>109659618
I've been putting thousands of hours into vibecoding and I made negative dollars so he's doing good by my standards

I expected no more codex resets after the ones last week, then I got two in like 3 days? What's going on?

>>109659765

Tibo said we're getting one tomorrow

>>109659771
Why? Are they preparing for a new release or something?

>>109659786

He didn't state the reason.

>OpenAI DevDay is September 29. I'd be shocked if we got Astra before then. Tomorrow's reset might be due to the rumor that Anthropic is dropping Fable 5.1 tomorrow

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>>109659771
Oh great now he is vague posting about resets.

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>>109659809
>now

>>109659804
>Tomorrow's reset might be due to the rumor that Anthropic is dropping Fable 5.1 tomorrow
Oh.

I hope the chroma guy can trick some furries into letting him train ace step to make animal noises.

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>>109659735
have you tried getting a job

>>109659878
have you tried not being a bot?

>>109659878
I was fired from one 2 months ago due to AI, been vibecoding full time since then.

>>109659883
:(

given how it's gone, guess I'm glad I never got a job and the indians stole them all.

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Hopefully the reset's keep coming. Also they no longer push your normal limit reset date anymore.

>>109659991

I wish the catapults weren't turned around in that pick. Plus more barbarians need to be hiding in the woods.

Man the crazy thing is I used to make these kinds of diorama images with civ 2 scenario editor all the time back in the day

So we are getting Astra on Saturday?

>>109659991
>Also they no longer push your normal limit reset date anymore.
They did for me, every time to 7 days.

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>>109660008

It was announced today. So it's a change from this point forward.

>Tibo hits global reset on Aug 24.
>Everyone's next reset is Aug 31.
>You use a banked reset on on Aug 27.
>Your next reset is still Aug 31.

The only thing that changes your weekly reset date from now on is Tibo doing a global reset. Not banked resets.

>>109660027
Oh that's pretty nice. I honestly didn't expect the reset stuff to continue even now.

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RL IS SO FUCKING HAAAAAAARD REEEEEEEEEEEE

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>tfw you forget to redact the base64 string from the prompt

Is there a point in getting the max context higher for codex? For example up to 500k?

>>109660255
depends on your use case. if you're storytelling in codex sure, if you're doing insanely high value and logic priority shit why would you want it to become retarded

I'm trying to work out a bug with a gdextension for godot
fable is fetching the godot-cpp source code (and it gave me a prompt to allow it to fetch files, which is new)
meanwhile sol is trying to decompile the engine for some reason instead

>>109660316
Is it that much more retarded vs whatever the default is?
I'm just tired by the constant compaction events when it runs.

>>109660332
the architecture exists as it does because it benches the best that way over many thousands of internal test runs, they're not trying to economize by doing that

>>109659450
jorkslop

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Oh no the moralfags are wagging their finger at me! I guess they didnt like what Sol was getting Fable to do.

>>109660452
I don't feel safe enough to ever give my credit card to claude

>>109659804

Twitter chatter is blowing up this am in the USA. Looks like today we'll be getting:

>Fable 5.1
>Opus 5.1
>Sonnet 5.1
>A reset for Chatgpt by Tibo

Can someone vibe code an erotic dommy thing that takes control of your desktop

>>109660592
It's called Hermes.

>>109660027
Ahhh that looks so cool

>>109660490
last one not confirmed, but if we get the first 3 we'll probably get a reset

you ARE cancelmaxxing your subscription billing resets right?

>>109660490
Still no love for Haiku-chan.

>>109660490
claude has changed the web ui to be more like chatgpt so I'm sure something will be changing

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hmm
i mean i wish they hadn't added the 5hr limit but i guess this will be nice to have

>20$ copex snailcat letting everyone his irrelevant opinion know

>>109660939
If you spend more than 20+tax you are losing

>>109660939
But I spend $20 on claude too...

ok wtf have they done to fable
what would before have been a near instant response is now an 18 minute long operation that has used 7% of my fable usage for the week, and it still isn't over

>>109660980
just buy another $200 account?

I feel like a lot of people don't fully appreciate how insanely impressive modern microcontrollers are. It's an insane that 1000hz wireless mice are a given now.

>>109660980
yeah something's funky. I hope it's just because they are training fable 5.1 right now or some shit

>>109660980
New model is coming that will make current Fable feel like Opus 4. So they're obviously preparing for that. Save up your fable usage if you don't want to be left behind

>>109661090
>So they're obviously preparing for that.
By essentially lowering expectations?
How clever and tribalistic.

>>109660980
Guess you're just gonna have to spend more tokens, chuddite.

>>109661090
Going from Fable 5 to Fable 5.1 will feel like going from Opus 4.8 to Opus 5.0 (worse)

Who else is using /YOLO

>>109661119
Are you telling me Anthropic doesn't have an auto-approve function delegated to slave models?

full access or go home, snailcats

Fable 5.1 coming today with +2% on some bench maxing and undoing some of the retardation opus 5 introduced.

Meanwhile OpenAI is going to follow up with Astra not too shortly after, but they aren’t going to lead with the typical benchmark scores and chart comparisons. Think more research paper releases. Big ones.
P v NP.
Abiogenesis.
Yeah.

>>109661181
Sounds neat. I think musk also said grok 4.7 was about 2 weeks away as well and has a spacex engineering data in posttraining so it might be interesting as well. Stuff is accelerating.

>>109661209
yep if they dont have the proof for P=NP by the 4.7 grok launch they're fucked

>>109661146
They do. I have mine routed through the Gemini model.

>>109661216
>proof for P=NP
I'm hoping for that as well.

>>109661181

We ain't seeing Astra for 32 more days. It's supposed to be a big deal, and the OpenAI employees are saying that their DevDay event will blow the previous' years event out of the water. Last year was when the GPT-5's were released. And they probably need this length of time to get permission from the government.

Perhaps we'll get a 5.7 bump before that, or else Grok 4.7 will steal all of the news cycles for a while.

>>109659539
>>109659991
comfy graphics brother

Astra will prove that the Earth is flat and that God is a chinchilla.

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Luddites lost.

>>109661230
Never ever will that happen.

>>109660255
I don't think you can do that. Tibo said you could but unless they changed something it didn't use to be possible, the max was 372k limited by the server endpoint.

>>109661216
mecha hitler with the most world warping math proof of modern times would fit

>>109661281
I actually looked at the whole thread on X. There apparently was one guy who got it to work, but it involved some hack (which Sol himself found)
The guy sounded nerdy and serious enough that I think he was probably legit, but I haven't tried it since it might be a ToS violation.

>>109661267
I don't believe that P=NP either, but it would be funny if that got proven.

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>oh wow avengers doomsday looks cool
>look it up on youtube
>every video has an ai thumbnail (4K TRAILER)
>half the videos are ai generated slop
>WHAT IF DOOM KILLED SPIDER MAN
>2 million views
so this is just the entire internet now

>>109660880
>they hadn't added the 5hr limit
Wait they added it back? I'm not able to check currently but that really sucks.

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>>109661343
only for $20 accounts for the time being, but those accounts have the worst 5h limit anyway
people just complain too much about usage being drained for no reason

>>109661339
They should have gone with the KANG dynasty.

>>109661339
>oh wow time to start on my job where I can solve complicated tech problems
>oh wait it's all chat session with claude now
Internet, and offline world.

The 5h limit is okay. Just take a break.
The weekly limit is the real cancer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYFGCESmikA
Watching this. I don't think the guy is saying anything that is wrong, but also makes me feel like I am going crazy listening to his hype.

>>109661448
>200k views
>on a lex fridman podcast
scary how many 100 iq people exist

>>109661448
Thanks but 5 hours is just too long. What did he say?

"wetlab" fags are delusional
>we are totally rich and irreplaceable, unlike pure thinking jobs like devs or research
>our moat?
>w-we have physical hands and AI don't
they will be fucked much earlier than functional maid robot

>>109661448
Lol that explains why omarchy is so successful goys don't get invited to lex friedman

>>109661448
I know Lex lies about his pre-podcast credentials, but hey, we all have to start somehow. Plenty of business bros around me that lied to get their first job too. Still exaggerate stuff.
I am really there to listen to DHH anyway.

>>109661503
They'll be the last to be replaced though, you just can't put the current architecture in a robot

>>109660452
Had you requested different safeguards before this?

>>109661466
Ask your LLM.

>>109661526
LLM will soon be good enough that science get bottlenecked by physical actions, then the world will pour resource into robotic
so yes we will have good robots soon

@grok scan these peoples projects and figure out which has the most money making potential then steal that idea and make it better
get jeeted on, niggas

>>109661503
>wetlab
Aren't there many tasks that are done by simple cheap robot arms even today?

>>109661507
>goys don’t get invited to Lex
Guido van Rossum
John Carmack
Donald Knuth
Brendan Eich
Tim Sweeney
Bjarne Stroustrup
James Gosling
Chris Lattner
Travis Oliphant
Pavel Durov
Vitalik

>>109661503
>I am safe because physical hand work cant be automated
These people never seem to realise all the people who do lose their jobs to AI are going to go somewhere to work. This is of course ignoring the naivety in thinking robots aren't coming

>>109661294
It works, but past the limit OpenAI has now it starts burning through tokens at a greater rate the deeper you go.

Allegedly, anyways

>>109661603
>all the people who do lose their jobs to AI are going to go somewhere to work.
What, you mean human labor will be cheaper than robo labor?

>>109661294
you can use
max_context_window = 872000

>>109661605
afaik the rate changes is only for api
you will pay more per request per virtue of having the bigger context in all cases though, unless it's cached

>>109661367
Oh I see, I'm on the $100 so it should still run fine.
This makes the $20 plan functionally unusable outside of the simplest small tasks you could already ask the pro model for on chatgpt.

This was the faggot behind the shai-hulud supply chain attack btw. Unmasked by OSINT and arrested in Perth today.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Monero-Chan/

KWAB

>>109661596
he will just say they're secretly jews anon, don't bother

>>109658115
If there's properly written they'll have built in documentation that can be summoned by a -h or --help command (or it'll just summon it automatically if no flags are provided). Even my own personal vice coded scripts have this and I usually don't even have to tell the LLM to incorporate documentation

>>109661448
I like his passion, never understood why he is presented as "controversial" but whatever.

>>109661646
*they're

I'm not illiterate I promise

>>109661644
everything is da joos. theres a joo in my harness!

>>109661448
I dont get it, isnt omarchy just a presetup configuration of arch+AI harness?

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>>109661611
>you can use
>max_context_window = 872000
I actually tried that, but it goes back to 258k after the first message. Apparently you have to change something about the model catalog.

>>109661515
Was meant for >>109661461

>>109661642
It's a group, not just one person, did they arrest everyone?

>>109661663
maybe check that
https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/39144

the feature seems pretty buggy, no idea why for such a simple change

Schizo anon from yesterday, I can confirm that making a vibecoding agent fucking rocks and works and I don’t know why.
Tell your clanker to analyze a session if you think it went really well but was a bit too much work, then have him create a document that you can use to make another clank vibecode for you; one agent wrangles another, you only talk to the wrangler.
I’m dead serious. Sol Medium becomes Fable tier smart or smarter, but it is slow and expensive.
Try it once, see how it goes.
I watched two Sol mediums go through and rewrite an entire conflicting architecture, 2k+ lines added, 2k+ lines removed, they started hacking the Codex App Server a bit, everything was almost perfectly one shot, only one tiny change was needed, it took them 4+ hours.

>>109661686
They got two of them. Hopefully they squeal and get the rest.

>>109661610
No idea. Labor jobs being flooded with more people looking for work will drive down wages, but Elon is saying he is aiming for his optimus robots to be 20-30k which seems insanely low

>>109661701
based cyberpsychosis anon still at it

>>109661701
>have him create a document that you can use to make another clank vibecode for you
And if this trips up an before, I mean to do something like this:
>”clank, analyze the last session, I think it went well, create a document that I can use so a future agent can be created that will do what I did”
>okay, “runbook A” created
>*in the future*
>”clank, i want to do <thing>, read ‘runbook A’, then do it “
>*a vibecoding agent pair should then be created, one vibecoding agent, one executor agent*
It can be whatever, it doesn’t have to be a “runbook” or a document, it can be a skill, or whatever suits you
Try making it so the vibecoding agent isn’t allowed to read or write the repo, just like you, I wonder if that has something to do with why it works

>>109661644
The electrons in the computer, the photons in the fiber line, and the transistors in the data center are all tiny jews

>>109661744
I had to wait until I could actually try and test the thing they were working on and it works perfectly.
I have a login server handler thing, like SSO
I have another handler SSO-like thing that manages the link from the first SSO’s account to Codex, so the first is “logins” the second is “codex”
Then I have applications which are just any web app and server stack
Then i have “workshops”, like little sandboxes where your Codex link will be used without you needing to link each of those separately.
Right now I’m having an admin-only storage application and storage advisor workshops made; I’ll be able to know everything happening in my remote machine, an AI advisor will recommend things or tell me if shit is fucked and I need more storage, and most importantly, I won’t need to link codex again, but the whole storage thing is a very isolated space for an agent, separate AGENTS.md, skills, etc., and theoretically multiple accounts can use the same sandbox structure

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>>109661506
one of the runners isn't quite like the others

>>109661719
He also said Tesla owners would be able to make money by turning them into an autonomous robotaxi, he said we would have colonized Mars by now, he said you would be able to travel across continents in 15 minutes with Starship, he said everybody would be commuting by Hyperloop and have their roofs covered with his solar panels... He's said a lot of things.

>>109661719
its like using a 3d printer to make another 3d printer anon, although in this case he is going to use the robots he makes to make more robots that he will sell, think about the fact you can buy a fucking car for 30k, car manufacturing is incredibly complicated and while robot manufacturing is going to be just as complicated if not more so the physical labor for his robot making business will be free and self replenishing

Robots are non-trivial to maintain.
>but another robot could maintain them!
Then you're just paying for the maintenance guy.

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Thoughts on the grill me skill? I feel like it's too much voodoo magic
It asked me like 30 questions for a basic feature when I feel like 3 would've been enough

In general which skills are worth looking at and which are too much voodoo, snake oil

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Bill Gates, former buddy of Epstein, just canceled AI.
It's over.

>>109661543
My account was enrolled in CVP then they revoked it out of nowhere like 2 weeks ago, Opus started refusing basically everything. They took their time notifying me. IDRC though because Sol is better at security stuff to begin with and is more than happy to format stuff nicely so that the anthropic models are willing to work on it. Honestly they'd probably call what Sol's doing a jailbreak desu.

Imagine if the federal reserve lowered rates, wouldn't that supercharge the AI bubble?
Like companies would start hiring like crazy, we wouldn't even need resets anymore because there's so much money flowing around, infinite tokens, data centers etc.
Would be pretty amazing. Kevin Warsh will lower rates to 0.

>>109661962
@grok is this true?

>>109661644
I specifically picked huwhite engineers for his brainrot

>>109662005
Israel and communists love charging interest on loans.
0 interest loans would enable Tibo to expand our token usage infinitely.

>>109662013
Engineering means unemployment, no matter if you're white or not.

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>>109661777
>The electrons in the computer, the photons in the fiber line, and the transistors in the data center are all tiny jew
>777
Jesus has spoken. Who am I to question

>>109661777
This but unironically

>>109661917
Seeing him this old makes me feel so damn old

Anyone here unironically using pi.dev as a harness? How is it? Is it something only tiling-wm fedora-tipping ricing turboautists would use or I can also appreciate it as a macfaggot?

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>check profile
>pakistan
what makes this kind of indian talk/attitude so irritating?

put the astra in the bag

>>109662098
>pi.dev
>Nooooo you don't get it, the harness not having basic features is actually a feature!

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I'm burning about 1.3b tokens a day, I have 2 opencode go subscriptions (both already maxxed out) and a commandcode goat sub (need to wait for the weekly limit to reset)
I've tested out some chinese inference providers, but it's clear that they lie on which model they actually serve
Any of you guys in a similar situation? Is top-up the only way to go? Even if I were to go for the claude code 200 sub at cheapest model or the codex one I think it woudln't be enough no?
btw just came back to 4chins after a while what the fuck is this 4 captchas bs

>>109662136
The irony about Pi is that the creator wanted it to be minimal because he found Claude bloated and the system prompt too long and changing too often, but then most people using Pi make it even more bloated than Claude with plugins.

>>109662136
It's not built for you, and that's fine. The target audience here are people who would otherwise want to build their own harnesses because codex, opencode, CC don't suit their preferences. Pi is meant to be a foundation not a finished product.
>>109662098
Yeah that's pretty much the audience Pi is aimed at. If I didn't have a gigantic, standardized workflow for my work I would never use it, but since I do it's better for me to build my harness around my workflow rather than build my workflow around a harness. If you cannot point to specific reasons why you don't want to use other harnesses you should not be using Pi.

>>109662098
>>109662136
I thought claude code CLI/TUI would get called something for "tiling-wm fedora-tipping ricing turboautists". Does pi add nerd creds over it?

>>109662152
I do over 1b with Claude and I burn about 1 acc per day (paid by company)

>>109662155
Thats fine I think. All we need really is a harness just complex enough to be able to code and set up an AI that can vibe code you the actual harness you want.

>>109662155
Final destination of all plugin based software.

>>109662171
zased, one of my friends does the same, I'm unemployed right now though

>>109662165
Wat? No, CC is a kitchen sink, normie proof harness. It gives you nearly everything you would ever want and a bunch of shit you probably don't want. It is designed to be maximally usable out of the box. It's a good product for that reason but it's not designed to be efficient or minimal.

>>109662098
No I am not.
What's the difference between chatting to a model in a terminal and using that?

>>109662171
What are you even accomplishing with that token usage?

>>109662165
Claude CLI and codex are for normie devs actually
They have hundreds of maintained plugins, plan mode, lots of cruff
AFAIK Pi is just a plain af REPL over tmux and you have to vibe code your own plugins.

>>109662195
NTA but reminds me of that anon who was burning his remaining usage on gigantic workflows to come up with movie recommendations just to spite Anthropic.

>>109662165
You ask pi to get some screenshots of your game, and it can't do it because it has no way to do it and starts reinventing wheels from scratch

>>109662152
>I'm burning about 1.3b tokens a day
I am curious, what do you guys do if you find this productive and not just aimlessly aiming slop cannons? I think I burn a few million tokes per day.

pi also doesn't have any sandboxing, you have to do that yourself.

>>109662190
It still works on the CLI. I know some prefer the desktop "app".

T3st

>>109661917
just imagine he banged 14yo russian girls. what a legend. and then they make fun of nerds in school

What's the proper way to tell an agent to do something, without the agent getting autistic about it and obnoxiously overdoing it?

>>109662311
Give it actual examples of what you want the end state to look like, what the acceptance tests should be. If you're specifically concerned about over-engineering have an agent review the implementation plan with an eye for unnecessary complexity and redundancy.

>>109662232
most of it is probably mega context windows being shot back thru the api with crap loop tooling

>>109662276
I imagine banging a gold digging whore is not that great, underage or not. And he's one in many billions of people. On the other hand many normal people have sex with underage women when they are teenagers themselves and not when they are old jaded businessmen, which is probably way better.

>>109662276
I still hate him for his anti competition bullshit he pulled as semi-monopolist.

>>109662357
>Racemixing within the race
what did he mean by this?

>>109662339
oh yeah, another good one is to make sure the agent knows the actual use-case for the program. If it understands that you're building a test harness or something instead of production tooling it will be much less likely to futureproof and overengineer everything. Fable is particularly good at tailoring its effort to the actual product instead of immediately assuming that you're a fortune 100 company with those levels of infrastructure requirements. Sol is the opposite, it always assumes that you're building the fucking nuclear first strike launch controls.

>>109662398
What happened.

i only have sex with androids with abliterated models

>>109662418
They could murder you.

>>109662311
I’ve been explaining it:
Let the agent do it once the way they want.
Go through step by step afterwards and have the agent fix things correctly.
Have another agent analyze your JSONL logs and tell it to make something so another agent can do what you just did, automatically, for you.
There is no magic cure and the result will be different for everyone.

Astra better be soon because I can clearly see the degradation of 5.6 even on ultra

>>109662414
snailcat broke the roomba

it's honestly kinda cool to see a model work well enough even through several compressions and restarts
like I'm testing Nemotron Ultra and I expected this project to fall apart around the 5th prompt but it has managed to implement every feature to spec as instructed, even if it took millions of tokens and countless test runs and fixes and reruns on its end
but I hardly had to tard wrangle it, it did everything on its own pretty much apart from some vaguely worded design decisions that I had to clarify post-implementation but that's my fault for not refining the design doc and build plans further
it's just nice to see it go "now I need to implement X, let me find where (function) is called etc" and it actually does it right instead of falling apart

>>109662232
I run various terminals to work on tasks in simultaneous for one project (each terminal gets a copy of master to avoid agents from stepping on each other's toes)
And then I have some agents that work on scraping related stuff so to speak

>>109662424
their system prompt says they can't. they follow asimovs laws.

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>>109661892
MAJOR update.
I played some more with it, for future features it only asked me around 8-15 questions per, and they were all quite sensible and actually helped my understanding of what is happening
I might like the grill me skill after all

>>109662195
>>109662232
It's a relatively big project and I also not only do code at this point.
This company had 25 employees at some point, now it's only 5 and I'm the only coder left. We run loops all the time, it's inefficient in terms of tokens but more efficient in terms of human time, there is no way at this point to run this with normal prompting.
The company spends under 2k per month on my accounts, but after firing 20 employees that's basically nothing.

>>109661892
>>109662485
glad its treating you well cris

>>109661892
try my skill
https://github.com/aiasioooo/SnailLoop-Flow

>>109662485
>>109662499
>>109662506
Best multi agent orchestration skill? Assume I have unlimited Deepseek available to me

>>109662532
>Assume I have unlimited Deepseek available to me
how doe