This is hands down the best Terminal. I really don't understand people that use outdated commodore type consoles that don't allow you to select text with mouse, make corrections in the middle of commands and use common copy and paste shortcuts.Why do most Linux terminals suck? Is it on purpose just to be elitist? Typing fast doesn't mean you're smart, it makes you an NPC.
I agree but Microsoft is the Devil.
>>109662986Anon, PS, Batch and Bash all let you move back and correct the command in the middle, and the rest of what you've mentioned is done by the terminal emulator, in your case it's conhost. PS' biggest thing is that it's object based so you can make more reliable scripts instead of fucking around with regex and grep like it's the 70's.
>>109662986is this bait? the problems you're talking about are only seen in the windows command prompt, and powershell isn't even a decent replacement for it
>>109663016They let you correct, but with the keyboard. Konsole, Fish, Kitty. They all pretend the mouse doesn't exist.Konsole completely ignores your mouse for inline editing, it actually can pass mouse coordinates, but shells choose to ignore them by default to prevent breaking text selection. I've heard the excuses...> It's to save memory> People got used to it> It conflictsBut it's pure BS. Winslop can have 3 versions function normally. But No distro has a "prosumer" friendly Terminal. I have a strong feeling it's just gatekeeping. But the most talented people type slow and make messy mistakes all the time.
>>109662986You didn't even post relevant pwsh, just obsolete garbage that comes preinstalled on Windows and where a lot of shit refuse to work
>>109662986Skill issue saaaar
>>109662986>Powershell>Terminalactually just use windows terminal if you want proper experience
>>109662986anon terminal usage is mostly cargo cult, what did you expect? that people will try to use it in a ergonomic way? it is the antithesis of the cargo cult
>>109663247Just tested with kitty and it works, you can click anywhere to place the cursor there, and select by dragging, konsole only lets you select. Fish is a shell, not a terminal emulator, and it's the most user friendly/retard proof shell out there.Linux using non cursor positioning by clicking as a way to gatekeep is the most retarded thing I've read today, and if you're talented you will eventually become fast and commit less mistakes.
>>109662986PowerShell is a shell, not a terminal emulator. Two different things
>>109663247I like Kitty for ricing with Hyprland but the lack of context commands makes me crazy. You can dial the fade and transparency down perfectly though.
>>109663001this
stopping by to say that PowerShell remains unironically the best thing M$ has going for it. low bar but it is still the best best best. terrible shame it’s tied to windows.
>>109667957Mildly trolling here because while Powershell for Linux does exist, it does have some limitations that makes it, not unusable, but certainly "meh".
>>109662986For me, it's because I hate the syntax. It's really no more complex than this.It's power and capability is absolutely undeniable however, and I do practically all of my scripting in PS now.I just wish it didn't look like zsh, C and .net had a drunken orgy and all woke up pregnant.
>>109662986I am still wondering why they didn't use f# for a shell. It's literally perfect language for scripting and they already have a working compiler. Instead they came up with this unreadable/unwritable garbage that looks like no other language.
>>109667993I've seen some people using it, but if you want a powershell like experience on linux just use nushell. I use it for some personal scripts. It is nice nice scripting. Fish has nicer interactive usage though.
>>109668434>scripting>compilerYou need to educate yourself. There is an f# script and repl though
>>109668679Why wouldn’t you use pwsh on Linux for a PowerShell experience?
>>109663209definitely bait. no universe in which someone who has used a linux terminal in the last 30 years will write this post
>>109662986>Powershell>This is hands down the best Terminal.powershell is a shell, not a terminal, retard
>>109668848Yes but it's not a shell. How does it contradict what I said?
>>109662986It is. Just the fact that it actually transports proper arrays and dicts between commands and doesn't require you to keep reparsing random byte strings according to unknowable rules that are completely different between each program is based as fuck.Unix shells are fucking retarded.
>>109667993Fuck I love Unity7 so fucking much is fucking unreal
>>109667993>it does have some limitations that makes it, not unusable, but certainly "meh".like what? I'm not expecting windows-only shit like group policy to work on linux
>>109667760>PowerShell is a shell, not a terminal emulator. Two different thingsdo you imply anons here know the difference?
>>109669000I loved it too, years ago - am a bit out of touch now, is it still available?
I have clankers make TUIs in pwsh
>>109674196Canonical really came out with a new desktop that rivaled MacOS and blew Windows out of the water and they fucked it up by letting Gnome devs bully them out of it. Yes there is some Indian kid developing still, but you can imagine how utterly broken it is now.
>>109674287Damn, thats crao - I guess the only way to run it is to install a really old Ubu iso?Why the fuck doesnt someone decent maintain this? Fuck the gnome devs
>>109671436Lots of little weird things with sudo being a biggest. Powershell doesn't support using sudo but you can use Powershell to spawn a new Powershell instance under sudo. This results in the command executing in a different context.
>>109662986Im just glad powershell finally added ls command and nano, vs dir and having to drop back to notepad or some shit.
>>109677456>Powershell doesn't support using sudowhat?? I use pwsh on all of my linux machines and I have not encountered a single problem with sudo, stuff like sudo apt update just works in pwsh
>>109663001Computers are the devil's homo machine
>>109662986>Powershell>terminalThe absolute fucking state of this board.Guess I'll just fuck off and kms.
>>109662986I mean, you can run powershell on linux if you want.
>>109668908Winniggers don't get the difference because they live in le gooey heaven.
>>109668908>>109678486Getting hung up on Semantics is a classic sign of low IQ. And pwsh IS a Terminal, a Shell isn't visible to the end user.My main point is that command tools refuse to implement basic ergonomics that should make it easier to achieve your task. Basically what anon here said >>109664720Programs like Powershell ISE and maybe Warp Code should be the standard Command Line interfaces you use. Especially if the OS is heavily dependent on them for most tasks.
>he's doubling downFucking kek.
No thanks, writing out a novel to execute a few commands just isn't appealing. Way too verbose.
>>109663351win terminal is ps dumbass
>>109662986>>109663001>I really don't understand [enormous strawman I invented]Very cool.Here are 10 of the most widely used terminal emulators on Linux, BSD and MacOS:>GNOME Terminal>Xfce Terminal>Terminator>qTerminal>Ghosttty>Alacritty>Konsole>iTerm>Kitty>TilixAll of them allow you to select text with the mouse, make corrections in the middle of commands, and use common copy and paste shortcuts. Many have been around for well over a decade, or multiple decades. Windows terminal emulators have, historically, been godawful, and only started catching up to those on every other operating system after Win10 was released.
>>109683201>Getting hung up on SemanticsLmao. This isn't semantics, OP. You simply have not the slightest clue what you're taking about, and can't understand the words you are generating with Google Translate / ChatGPT.
>>109683501You completely missed my point and instead got hung up on "Umm actually Linux is not an OS it's a Kernel" type of correction. I understand the difference Between a Terminal and a Shell. I don't need to denote everything perfectly for you when the point of my post is something else. Sadly you are either autistic or an Indian with Dunning Kruger.
>>109662986>that don't allow you to select text with mouse, make corrections in the middle of commands and use common copy and paste shortcuts.c-x e
>>109662986poweshell is a shell not a terminalwindows terminal is pretty good though I like that you can have tabs for powershell, cmd and WSLon mac/linux ghostty+fish still clears if you don't want to mess with settings for more than 5 minutes
>>109683201>pwsh IS a TerminalNo, it's not. Powershell is a shell. It uses Windows' conhost as a terminal by default just like cmd.You can run Powershell in other terminals like kitty, windows terminal, or even electron-base terminal emulator like you see in VSCode.If you double-click your helloworld.exe it starts conhost as its terminal.
>>109662986Console is the best terminal.http://console.sourceforge.net/
powershell is a pile of shit. retarded take. imagine having to RUN AS ADMIN every time you want to sudo. not only that you get a fucking admin login prompt every time something "unsecure" happens. then there's the fucking commands. power shell is a bitch you can't do shit. every command is 3 full sentences strung together with dashes because windows users can't understand piping commands. you should feel ashamed. learn to be good. you're an embarassment to your craft
>>109662986Idk.PS sucks, desu.Bash and batch is good, because its like writing a list of commands you already know by working in a terminal. But arguably batch also sorta sucks because it has complexity issues and limits. Bash on the other hand, you can basically make anything with, and it writes naturally as you would use terminals. Powershell is like a MUCH MUCH worse python, where you have to relearn a langauge to use it, which makes it like coding rather than scripting, then you cant even reach the same levels as python, so no fuck you /g/uys. PS is for jeets,
>>109683951>when the point of my post is something elseThe point of your post is objectively wrong, as many posts have pointed out (e.g. >>109663209 >>109665129 >>109663209 >>109683481 ). Yet, here you are doubling down and calling people retards, when every post you have made is a pathetic display of unbridled, niggerbrained stupidity. Absolutely kill yourself, my man. You're just too dumb to be alive.
>>109678137>>109678137>>109678137>>109678137
Jesus Christ you fucking autistic freetards, nobody in the real world cares.Go shit in whatever "freetard shitware has been handing out kmem to anyone who asks for the last 10 years, but we'll parrot 'loonux is a colonel' as a dodge" thread you have running today.
>>109685691>makes one invalid assertion after another>too emotional to admit they're wrong>has a meltdown about a strawman issue insteadTypical woman / tranny logic.
>>109662986Powershell is slow as fuck and you have to consistently press the enter key a few times after opening the window just to make sure it's actually loaded right, otherwise it'll probably never show a prompt on its own.
>>109677456No, nested pwsh inherits context.
>>109677856But it didn’t. ls is just an alias to get-childitem and while you can install a windows nano package if you got it :automatically” then you’re probably using wsl
>>109678004/g/yards see .net and PowerShell and think it’s windows only. Windows doesn’t have a shoe type command but windows terminal has/had an experimental version and there’s a pwsh module gsudo for pwsh that does the same. It requires the uac dialog instead of a password
>>109663001
>>109684952I understand why people might not like PowerShell - it’s very different and thus has a somewhat unpleasant learning curve, but the PowerShell bashing posts (pun?) always come off as incredibly unintelligent
>>109685827>just toaster thingsYou are using pwsh correct?Also it does an online version check when a new shell is created, which you can disable. Also, what’s in your profile script?It’s literally a .net shell so you could recompile with aoc to decrease startup time
>>109686324>PowerShellit loading up 10 sec
also bullshit language
>>109663247We don't need to be able to use mouse in terminal.Being able to copy images for ai use would be nice though.
Yeah why can't you just move the cursor mid line with a mouse click to correct a typo on Linux terminal emulators? There is already mouse functionality. I think bash needs to implement it.
