Recent events were your cue to switch, just so you know. Now encourage your favorite content creators to make accounts here.
>>109667320what events?
>>109667320Switch what? 4chen is the only "social media" I regularly use.
>>109667320>your favorite content creatorsI think you've overstayed your welcome.
Thanks, but I'll stick with Mastodon.
Honestly what's even the point of Bsky? Mastodon is already filled with woke lefty types. Xitter is just astroturfed right wing instead of astroturfed left wing now. There was never any real threat.
>>109667411Bluesky also you to have laser focused echo chambers. All the furriers went there to if that is your thing.
>>109667320
>>109667320wasn't this shit sold and abandoned by its creator?
>>109667320mm. no. this time it hit harder. but nitter will survive like previously.
>>109667320The fediverse is the growing social media, not another decentralized platform.
>>109667320I don't think that brewsky und musksky are used by actual people. If I wanna scream to some llms this shit is enough. Upvote pls so I can feel validated and manipulated.
I've been using Bluesky (on and off) since the start. There's nothing different besides the userbase consisting primarily of sensitive bozos. Other than that, a lot of us use it just as a quieter place. I sometimes post my art there. Compression is shit though. Like it's REALLY REALLY bad. I wouldn't consider it a Twitter replacement in any capacity. The shit you see on Twitter is so unique.
>>109667501best post. masto/pixelfed/misskey/pleroma are actually censorship-resistant and self-hostable. bluesky is still a centralized platform run by pozzed corporate stooges. anyone not on fedi who claims to care about freedom is larping
>>109667565>anyone not on fedi who claims to care about freedom is larpingThe problem with those who explicitly do so are annoying faggots who post about their love of lolisho 24/7. Not that I have anything against it. It's just... Why do they all talk about porn so much?
>>109667320>your favorite content creatorsI heckin' love consuming content, engaging with brands and following influencers!
>>109667577frankly i haven't run into the loli crowd much. on fedi, you only see posts from people you follow, so i mostly see tech news and book reviews, plus updates from friends. though obviously ymmv since different frontends organize the timeline differently, and the "trending" tab will be different for each server.nice dubs btw
>>109667320Twitter is older and has a more established base. Creators aren't going to use it if it's not pulling in numbers the same way their Xitter account does. Only people unironcally using it are they/them pronoun faggots because the place is a literal hugbox.
>>109667577>lolishotranny word
>>109667690I'm not going to type "loli and shota media" every single fucking time I mention it.
>>109667577Apps fill their niches. Xwitter and other bigtech sites are for content creators and news to follow. Super hyper encrypted apps are therefore for illegal stuff only. Encrypted and anonymous sites don’t have the following of Xwitter and YouTube, network effect keeps people from switching and the only people who are looking for alternatives are banned people.
>>109667577I thought Mastodon decoupled from Pawoo over loli? Pawoo's no longer Japanese-owned after getting sold off a couple of times though. Wish Pixiv had held onto it.
FUCK YOU ELONI used Nitter to follow cosplay e-thots via RSS on my own self hosted RSS clientAND NOW ITS GONEi wish all the e-hoes I followed were on Mastodon but you know they're too retarded for that shit
goyimx.com
>>109667320Funny how>twitter is a private company they can do what they likeflew out the window the moment it started affecting shitlibs.
>>109667411I actually do not get why they didn't encourage everyone to hit up Mastodon. Splintering to Bluesky just made everything worse.
>>109667411I read an article by a Blacksky fan and he said he tried Mastodon and didn’t like getting unsolicited linux advice>>109667446yeah, Jack Dorsey dumped bluesky and made nostr
We're all on the new Twitter now https://twitter.now
>>109668067we sure arehttps://bsky.app/profile/eva.ac/post/3mu3ykcuegs2fcurrent speedrun to sign yourself up is a little over 2 minutes>how to get access to vibeslopped firebase platform that people paid 20$ for in 2:01 (WR)
>>109667320>Bluecryevery poster on this board would be banned in a matter of hours after posting on this adult safe space
Bluesky is a dead end because it's too centralized and expensive to run, they're currently burning VC cash with zero route to monetize without pissing off the audience they've cultivated.Mastodon will stick around forever because anyone can run an instance on a raspberry pi or $5 VPS or whatever. But without an algorithm it will never be adopted by the normies who are just looking to be spoonfed memes and the Current Thing to be for/against. It will forever be 80% nerds discussing which linux distro is the best.nostr is Mastodon but even more decentralized and even more focused on one topic (crypto rugpulls)
>>109667320??recent events in the apple social media sphere was one of the biggest players moving back to twitter. the others that strongly disagreed doubled down on mastodon. bluesky remains irrelevant.https://flohgro.com/blog/disappointment/
>>109668265thoughts on bluesky from themhttps://mastodon.social/@stroughtonsmith/117134346592316817>Bluesky may act as a 'Twitter without nazis', but it still has all the same algorithmically-induced problems, causes all the same anxieties, fear, anger as the Twitter I left. In an increasingly-evil-aligned world, I don't know how tenable it is to try to make good decisions. Avoiding the algorithm is a start
>>109668067pun unintended xD
>>109667320>((content creators))Fuck off.
>>109667320>forces webp garbageShit is dead on arrival.
>>109667320That's a really weird way to spell misskey.
>>109667320nope sorry i dont care what anyone thinks on twitter or bluesky. i don't care what anyone thinks on this shithole either, but i know if some retard posts anything noteworthy, one of you morons will include a screencap. so why should i ever bother visiting either website?
>>109667565>masto/pixelfed/misskey/pleroma are actually censorship-resistant and self-hostable.i really gave mastodon a try, i tried many instances and i got banned all the time. its a total waste of time and unusable.
>>109668338Do you want to know something even worse? They don't even utilize it properly. Often the lossy WebP images being served are LARGER than the original files. They don't compare sizes or anything.
>>109667320>Recent events were your cue to switchIdk what recent events your talking about, but is that why Bluesky is running like shit these past few days? From new users moving over? Or is it just another "bluesky is made with AI" moment
>>109668383what original files?bluesky already converts everything to jpeg on upload:https://github.com/bluesky-social/social-app/issues/10211later on they convert those jpegs to webp for serving.
>>109668415Fucking hell.
>>109667320who do you think sold out twitter and caused this all to happen? and rocket man was right. "birdwatch" was a stupid name for community notes. they should have brought him on board as a advertising consultant. I don't like all his changes but hes much better at branding than all the bird shit.
>>109667441Nitter is kill. lolan musk sent the big nosed lawyers
>>109667378enjoy your admin bs ideology
>>109668474>better at branding>literally everyone calls X "Twitter"
>>109667411Xitter is 90% bots and AI slop.
>>109668338>>109668383>>109668415Holy cancer, I hate every step of this.
>>109668837Reminds me of this famous imageboard four channel, I've heard "people" there have been reposting the same shit since 2 years ago with all replies being the same including this oneI wonder why they removed the IP counter
>>109668557>all take and no giveexactly why you have this outcome bimbot
>>109667501>FEDiversehoneypot
>>109668060nostr isn't even a place.
Switch from what? I don't use any of that twitter garbage. Never have.And if I did it would be for promoting my business and I'd just post on all of them.
>>109667565Anyone using any twitter clone has brain damage.
>>109667320if you're leftwing just use zuckerberg's threads.comstop the cope
>>109669109Threads was the saddest shit. Zuckerberg really is the cuck of big tech
>>109667320No thanks I don't think I'll use the paedophile platform.
>>109669109While X is 80% bots, Threads is like 120% bots
>>109667411Bluesky has better ways to filter out the content, and you are allowed to be anti trannies there unlike on mastodon mainstream.Also, there is porn allowed on bluesky if that is your thing. For example skyfreedom has a bluesky account but not mastodon.The recommendation system is also superior on bluesky. If you don't want to see trannies, just flag every tranny account you see and after you do it 5 times, the algorithm will pick it up and you will never get a tranny recommended to you ever again.Lastly, Mastodon is all just political screeching and reddit memes. Bluesky is actually a lot more like a collection of many clubs and you can easily find one where people actually build stuff.
>>109669109Instagram is literally 99% right wing slop. Twitter is really not that right wing in comparison
>>109669109Why?
>>109669399>Lastly, Mastodon is all just political screeching and reddit memes. Bluesky is actually a lot more like a collection of many clubs and you can easily find one where people actually build stuff.funny, for me it was the opposite. I curated a nice feed of people on mastodon building cool projects and adjacent folk. tried to find stuff on Bluesky, it was all political screeching and gatekeeping. I guess it depends on what your hobbies are.
>>109667411i use Bluesky & Mastodon (Japanese one) to enjoy some newhalf imagedump by doujinshika. some more tech savvy jap image artists also dump their images there instead of xitter.Also decent number of trannies there dumping their degenerate lewds if you search it carefully. and Yes, i like my passing trannies thank you.i say it's a decent old Twitter-lite service without the political bullshit algorithm. as lefty tranny as it is, i trust trannies on maintaining the IT infrastructure than the jeets that do on xitter or zuckerberg owned things>>109669385tried threads and it's all bots. x but even worse, zucc doesn't even try anymore. i saw like few accounts with exact parroting replies repeated once every several days as i looked into each of their profiles. many of those accounts are rightwing pro male accounts that i suspect exist to entrap anyone there
>>109669385threads is all engagement bait bots posting screenshots of some dumb pointless shit trump did like rename a lake accompanied with the text THIS IS WHAT I VOTED FOR (flag)(flag) AMERICA FIRST!!!
maybe elon should stop banning all new accounts
>>109672242He doesn't want you to use X. It is supposed to be a secret club only for hacker-ready individuals and builders from high IQ countries
>an app that is 100% sunday school teacher liberal white women, and faggy menthink I'll pass
>>109667411it’s the same platform that trannies celebrated Kirk assassination
>>109667411Xitter isn't even right wing astroturfed. It just lets the right wing on there. If you interact with any lefty posts your feed will suddenly become bombed with them. To lefties, balance looks like bias because they are used to a one way church.
>>109667320>Just use the platform by the same guy, this time surely it'll be good!
>>109667320What percentage of users have septum piercings?
>>109667320threads is superior
>>109672302That is not true, unless you define right wing as stritcly alt right fuentes types.I never touched anything political and I keep getting DogeDesigner, Elon Musk and Captive Dreamer in my feed.
>>109672292Alt righters celebrated too btw. Stop pearl clutching.
>>109667320Nah Bluesky is another echo chamber of homosexuals and furries. X is shit but Bluesky is too full of retards obsessed with "muh marginalized poc did a thing" slop
>>109672538The algorithm is supposed to feed you your interests in general, and then the occasional challenge to it. Which is why I get this same bag of 3-4 lefty accounts that pop up occasionally despite not being interested in any of that.
>>109667320Just use https://goyimx.com.>>109667565censorship is inherent to the way misskey works. No work is more censored than one only a whitelist of people is allowed to see.
>>109668091why do people even use firebase, your website will be fine with a single instance of postgress on a $5 vps>>109667565mastodon has vendor lock in, lots of servers have locked down. You can host your own bluesky server yourself if you aren't lazy and it will work. If the operator of your server fucks you then you can transfer out even if he breaks it.
>>109672666>You can host your own bluesky server yourself if you aren't lazy and it will workHow is that different from mastodon or any activity pub instance for that matter?
>>109667320lolno wokesky is a dying shitholehttps://bluefacts.app/bluesky-user-growth?t=3m
>>109672707you can transfer your identity into a different server
>>109673033You can do that on mastodon too
What I don't get about bluefag is why they decided to block browsing to accounts immediately after starting up.Like it was instantYou could not browse without an account for the longest time. You would get a bluesky link to a tweet and just be hit with a "SIGN UP FAGGOT" equivalent of a paywall. And they seriously thought this was how Twitter got its userbase. Literally, every complaint they had about Musk's X they immediately went and did on their own
>>109667320>Problem with making a twitter account is handing Elon your dox>Bluesky already capitulated and somehow made handing over your dox even more toxic
>>1096680422 things, Mastodon doesn't have portable accounts, and it doesn't have global discovery. If your Mastodon host shuts down, then tough shit, your account is gone. And you can't discover shit on Mastodon unless it's also on your instance or you know exactly which instance the person you want to follow is on.
>>109667320What's the nitter equivalent for this?
>>109673170No you can't.
>>109668060He didn't make nostr, he just funds it. Also nostr is garbage. The relay system sucks, and there isn't a good flagship.
>>109673421simply not being logged in
>>109673458Doesn't work for hidden profiles. But it could easily be bypassed given the way ATProto works.
>>109667320llol
none of the accounts i follow are on these sites. i don't think harassing random japs with "hey can you mirror everything you post to this random site you never heard of" would be well received
>>109667320If you are on bluesky, then you will be drafted.Me, I would be banned on bluesky, and I can't be drafted.
>>109673406>Mastodonmastadon is garbage, and it will never improve.
>>109673428Why are you lying
>>109667320It's a steaming pile of shit, with a bunch of faggots rolling around in it. But their recent announcement of adding reddit like communities might help unfuck it. They need to differentiate themselves from Twitter somehow. They can't capture lightning in a bottle like Twitter did in 2007. Unless they try something different and drastic it's going to die as a small leftist hugbox. Which is actually really interesting because it's usually rightwing splinter communities that had tried to start social media platforms and failed. Remember Voat and Ruqqus?
>>109673539redirects != transfers
>>109668378>i tried many instances and i got banned all the timeif you're looking specifically for gooner content or slur use, try a non-mastodon fedi platform.most mastodon instances are moderated by "woke" tech dorks, for lack of a better term. culturally there's an emphasis on not posting slurs, gore, nudity and so on.pleroma and misskey tend to have looser, more vibes-based moderation. there are plenty of instances which are explicitly intended for sharing goonslop, for example, and a handful of white nationalist / slurmaxxed instances too. if you're looking for a place to post something specific, that's where you wanna be.not really sure why different fedi software evolved such different cultures, but things are how they are.
>>109673428https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/#move
>>109673555>sees two men relaxing instead of slaving in shekelstein factory>writes a 10 page angry essaywhy was he like this?
>>109673588
>>109673574>Your posts will not be moved, due to technical limitations.
>>109673612>option 1ctrl+cctrl+v>option 2export your posts and repost them to the new instance via the apiwhile this is an inconvenience, most people won't read a post that's more than a couple days old on shortform platforms, so little of value is lost regardless
>>109673588>>two men relaxinghighkey SUS
>>109673637No, I'm not going to do some hacky kludge. I'm going to use the superior protocol.
>>109667320If you want to read insane libshit drivel all day, then that's the place for youPersonally, I would rather not
All my favorite artists are on Twitter and they're not going to leave for some woke censored western shithole.
>>109673659please post some handles
>>109673588People like that are in denial about their low morals (ie being greedy and superficial).
>>109673653>Wahhh I need to enter a single commandYou don't belong here
>>109673452holy cope
>>109673877nost is garbage. I was browsing it for like 30 minutes and almost all the accounts were just pump and dumping crypto or selling LLM courses. I found two accounts posting pictures of food with Japanese captions and one "adult model" who was never naked.
>>109673659Some of my favorite artists moved to bluesky but then either moved back or started posting on both after just a few months. A few remembered to post on bluesky once or twice a year, and one of them just stopped posting anywhere at all
>>109667697So do you find yourself saying that a lot?
>>109667320Bluesky defends gaza scammers and groomers who regularly solicit and send pornography to children, including my little brother. Ban the scammers and whores and anyone who defends them then we'll talk.
>>109674034No, but it's one of those things I picked up when typing on... pardon me, but my phone.
>>109674040>gaza scammersWhat?
>>109674040>gaza scammersI try not to say this generally but you belong in some kind of camp
>>109674040Those accounts are removed all the time. What the fuck are you on about?
>>109674058>>109674079People who falsely claim to be victims of the gaza war and spam and guilt people into donating money, and use their alts to lash out and attack people who dare to point out that they are scammers. They've been a problem on all social media since it started and people will make excuse after excuse after excuse breathlessly day in and day out to explain away any contradictions, and even go as far as to harass, threaten, and even doxx people for pointing out obvious scams.>>109674110Removing "the account" is not good enough since they just make more, you need to also ban people who reblog, share, and like their posts because they are complicit in the scam, even if unwittingly.>>109674079See right here? This is the kind of abuse you get for daring to point out the most obvious scam on the internet since the 90s. Because I dared to point out a scam, I'm being told I belong in a nazi camp.>I didn't say naziPlausible deniability doesn't work on 4chan.
>>109673877identity not owned by the feds or zuck, sounds like the way to go.
>>109673877Actually, I should say this could be huge news.Unfortunately, I don't see used defenses against aggressive administrators who might try to unperson someone.
>>109667320>make accounts hereHow do I make a 4chan account?
>>109667320BSky is laughable, dying website. I would much rather normies get on Mastodon and make it less of an echo chamber for the tumblristas of the world. You can't "enshittify" Mastodon cause it's open source, but you absolutely can enshittify BSky.
>>109674989>MastodonXno sir
>>109674906with luck
>>109674989>You can't "enshittify" Mastodon cause it's open sourceThat is not how it works.
Is there any reason that is not>muh nazis!To use anything other than X/Twitter?
>>109672292But that's funny and good?
>>109675469Full of high quality artists.
>>109667352his transition
>>109675937I was asking about alternatives to x.
>>109674280> you need to also ban people who reblog, share, and like their posts because they are complicit in the scam, even if unwittingly.Twitter doesn’t do that
>>109675968>Twitter doesn’t do thattrue but only for millionaires, only poor users are affected.
>>109675961Bluesky is supposed to be one.The other is Mastodon (mastodon.social).
>>109676050Can it be saved?
>>109676113What's driving this? I know a lot of people complained about faux positivity but that seems like small fries and with 1.25M users you can't say it's bleeding out just because of network effects.
>>109676156Echo chambers do not drive engagment. The troof of the matter is, you need opposition, no matter how small, to drive engagement. People say Twatter is a "muh nazi" echochamber, when that simple is not the case.
>>109668502I'm one of the mastodon.social normalfags so I don't experience any autistic tyranny. Being able to block the crazy servers for yourself is one of the best parts of Mastodon. I've noticed the most insufferable servers tend to be French for some reason.
>>109667411Twitter funnels you into whatever topic you're interested in. A little too much desu. Comment on one story, that's all your feed is for the next few hours.It's filled with jeets and people spamming garbage for engagement, but it at least has activity. It's also the main platform used by anyone important.BlueSky on the other hand is literally no one except very out of touch leftist nobodys and overall the platform is a ghost town.
>>109676455IF only there was a way to program your algorithm.
>>109676466Problem is I want to see some stories on the topic. I just don't want my last engagement to become the topic of 100% of my feed for the afternoon.
>>109676167musk tries to make it in to one
>>109676466I automate this shit with userscripts
>>109667320>make Bluesky account solely to follow artists who've deactivated their xitters over Grok rumors>they either treat it like every other site they use, go back to Xitter, or have a new mental breakdown they feel compelled to overshare every weekArtists are retarded.
every fartist who 'moved' here came crawling back to shitter because it makes them feel like they're getting more attentioni have the utmost respect for creators who maintain their own website, checking places like visuabusters beats the hell out of all these adware pozholesmastodon instances suck the least as far as platforms go, baraag is greatnon-pedophiles can't make decent websites
>>109667411Blue sky is American shitlib refugee containment after Muskrat took overWhat was left on Twatter was allowed to exist as safe edgy American "conservative" containment
>>109667411Not normalfag friendly
>>109667320you use the bluesky search without login, lol
>>109677342>But the bigger takeaway here is not just that Bluesky’s post-election bump has shrunk. Bluesky’s app has lost more than half its monthly active users from its late-2024 high, which means that its app usage continued to shrink even after the initial post-election surge subsided. (Its quarterly average was around 22.1 million monthly active users in the fourth quarter of 2024, Similarweb’s data indicates, and it declined to 10.7 million in the second quarter of 2026. That’s a decline of around 52%.)be woke, go broke
>>109677342>>109677390Probably because it doesn't have an algorithm.
>>109667320>just so you knowHate speech, mansplaining, you're banned from bluesky
>>109667320The whole format is fucked. You cannot have good discussion with messages that are capped at 300 characters. Even 4chan has better discussions than Bluesky, as evidenced by this thread alone. I tried talking to someone and I was getting pissed trying to fit all my thoughts into a single message. Of course I could send multiple messages, but that's retarded. I was literally looking at a thesaurus trying to find synonyms for words that were too long.
>>109676172>I'm one of the mastodon.social normalfags so I don't experience any autistic tyrannyyet
>>109667320i only use xitter for porn these days and as far as i could tell from the one time i tried it, bluesky doesn't really have anywhere near as much, so im good.
I don't know what's on their mind when they designed their platform. Despite all their words about being decentralized, it's centralized just like twitter.https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/It also has less privacy than twitter and mastodon, you can easily view other users' block list. People made something like this site to help the loonies start a witch hunt.https://clearsky.app/
>>109667320>faggot website made for leftist liberal faggots>encourage people to make accounts thereNo.
>>109675939#Powerful
>>109676833>Artists are retarded.it takes a "different" mind to be one.
>>109667320Is there a risk of my account getting nuked for using gallery-dl?
>>109675939elon finally came out?
Doesn't it use some decentralised protocol or something?>https://atproto.comHow hard would it be to spin up your own instance?Even if the main instance skews very woke, having an actually decentralised xitter replacement seems like a good idea.
>>109683413its extremely hard to completely disconnect from the main instance. The architecture is a hairy ball and only blacksky has managed to be the most decentralized one but it costs them thousands in server costs because it needs to replicate the entire network and then they had claude do everything else because bluesky's appview is not open source.Even then, they still depended on bluesky's moderation server bs and accounts banned from bluesky couldn't join blacksky for a while. Just an awful centralized network pretending to be decentralized.But if you manage to make a non woke instance, they will have a lot of trouble banning it because the network is so shit.
>>109683559I'm reading a bit more about it, and it does seem a bit better than activitypub/mastodon (unless i'm missing something).Seems pretty easy to host your own data instead of having bluesky or another instance host it, even using a cloudflare worker:>https://github.com/ascorbic/cirrusAnd it seems like you can use your own at://did:web:example.com instead of the centralised at://did:plc:<hash>It seems kinda cool, but I wonder if Musk could be convinced to switch xitter to use it or something, maybe even rebrand at:// to x:// instead?
>>109672292Migger detected
>>109683748Hosting your own data doesn't make the network decentralized
>>109667320i amassed over 6k followers on that horrible app by just gemini 2 flash on minimum thinking and having it post every couple hours. it is literal dogshit and if this isn't a bait post i sincerely pray for you being this retarded
>>109684540How so?From what I gather, the only centralised part of the protocol is the registry identifier ( at://did:plc:<hash> ), since it requires you to use the registry that Bluesky setup.However you can use your own identifier: ( at://did:web:yourdomain.com ) instead.(Unless I'm misunderstanding) moderation works by applying labels to users (their did) & posts that users can subscribe to, but if you use an app like Bluesky you're forced to use those labels, but if you were to use a third-party (or self hosted) app, you wouldn't be required to use Bluesky's "moderation".And since pretty much every post is a .json file, i don't see why it would be that difficult to set up your own 'app' to browse posts, sort of like an RSS reader.Again I might be missing something obvious, but it seems most people are just focused on the woke Bluesky app instead of the underlying protocol.
>>109684720How many of those followers are real people though? I created an account, but I've never posted or liked anything, and still I have almost 100 followers for some reason. A lot of them seem to be onlyfans bots or gaza grifters.
>>109667320activitypub status?
>>109687565Blocked for wrongthink.
>>109687565just werks and it's w3c standard
I use Mastodon, its actually interesting over there.Never found anything useful on Bluesky. But maybe for the normies its better I dunno.
>>109667565Reposting from that other thread yesterday that got deleted:Can't the head janny of the Mastodon instance just block access to other instances whenever he gets his manties in a bunch? Mastodon isn't perfect. Also every instance I've ever seen is completely dead in comparison to any of the centralized options.
>>109667320No, it's ass.
>>109689762>Can't the head janny of the Mastodon instance just block access to other instances whenever he gets his manties in a bunch?Just like you can block India from accessing your blog
>>109667320Nooo, let the Twitterfags stay on their fucking shithole. Don't want them invading my safespace
>>109667320Why would I use a shittier clone of twitter?
>>109668042Because mastodon and other activitypub instances fucking suck on both the clients end and the admins end. ATproto is newer and so has a tiny ecosystem but it’s designed to scale a lot better and address a lot of the pain points of activitypub
>>109667320lol faggot
>>109667320>unironically shilling bdkyi knew this board was full of trannies but i didnt think it was this bad
