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>>109681504we are posting nas builds now?
>>109681531let me guess: you need more
>guy in a stingray talking about scranton
>>109681531why not?
kind of a stupid question, but for all intents and purposes, Ethernet cable cat 6 s basically more than enough for personal use right?
>>109681552you only need to think about your ethernet if you're doing heavy home server file transfering.
>>109681538i already have enough tho>>109681547yeah why not.
>>109681538I want more, and I know I shouldn't
the amount of gta6 glazing this man is doing is unfathomableI will never live up not buying a ps5 pro on sale before the price hikesit's beyond over
the man who owns a 5090 and 9800x3d went from never buying a ps5 to considering itit's overeveryone is aboard the fomo train
POV you are a 5090 owner and you are starting to realize the 5090 does not have gta6 on release
stop posting
>>109681657Yeah, it will have it in 1-2 years and play a shitton better then a PS5 Pro with most of game bugs fixed and extra DLC.
>>109681657I have to assume at this point you could just take the ps5 version of the game and ask claude code to port it to pc and it'd work in a day
>>109681620>>109681643>>109681657the things that happen when someone (possibly) actually makes a good game i guess he got bored o just looking at his tv from a very close range in games that are all shit except for maybe the advanced nvidia tech they use that is one way to out yourself as an nvidia shill bitch
Is there any recommendations or guides for Mouses? I'm trying to find something to replace my deathadder after 10 yearsI just need a simple wired mouse that has two buttons on the left side of it.Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.
I only play a single player game once it's finished updating and all dlcs are out
>>109681687buy another deathadder its unironically that simple
>>109681687Def go for a wireless mouseYou want optical switches and wheel, and a large battery and screws not hidden by glued on padsOnce you experience wireless you wont go back to draggin a wire around
>>109681687I like endgame OP1 a lot
>>109681687I bought a chink mouse that everyone said was good because it's light z1 zaopin, used for a year, it's goodthen I thought mice being light didn't matter and bought a m65 ultra because of teh shape, turns out the lighter mouse was bettertldr buy a light mouse with the shape you'd enjoy
>>109681657It's not even a problem. You're posting incontrovertible proof (another new word so you don't spend your day saying "unfathomable") that you don't really care about picture quality that much. Just sell the 5090 for a profit, you can tell yourself it was a good investment, even, and buy a PS5.
>>109681687ask the ai (unironically) for a recommendationtell the ai what shape you wantwatch features you needwhat software you want or don't want to usewhat switches and weight you wantmouse thread is dead for a reason https://www.eloshapes.com/
>>109681670you didn't buy a ps5 pro during the sales before the price hikes right?F's in the chat...>>109681676>just wait 2 years>>109681684Jensen's phallus was mighty indeed, but Rockstars phallus might be even more errect and veinyit's all over>>109681687yeah just buy a superstrike, it obsoleted other micesuperstrike is the gta6 of the mice world>>109681688>just wait X years>>109681715who are you adressing in all actuality
wtf is a gta 6quick rundown on the gta 6 situation?
>>109681697I was thinking of doing just that desu, I just thought maybe things have overall gotten better so it would make sense to move forward>>109681700>>Def go for a wireless mouseBut the latency?>>109681706I'll look into it>>109681712I already have a chink keyboard, I don't want to jinx myself with adding too much chink shit, but thanks anyway>>109681719I'll keep this around, I think I'm just going to follow >>109681697advice and buy another deathadder since they are still being made new and are literally only $20. Thanks everyone
>>109681750Wireless latency is equal or less than wired. At least on the dedicated gaming mice, dunno about random work oriented stuff.
>>109681626so its fucking over
>>109681757random work stuff runs at 125 to 250hz to maximize battery life
>>109681748tl;dr you're a loser if you're not playing it on ps5 at 30fps.
>>109681768Or in logitechs case to artificially segment the different products
>>109681738>>just wait 2 yearsWhat's the problem? Rather wait then play broken shit. GTA V had the same problem. I waited till Cyberpunk 2077 got it's first major patches and DLC too before I actually played it.
>>109681748We are slowly learning that the 5090 can't play GTA6 (as in, there won't be an actual PC release of the game on release)which makes the PS5 Pro mightier than the 5090 at this current point in timehardware doesn't matter, what can play the game matters30fps? doesn't matterupscaling? doesn't matterres? doesn't matterfomo? maxxedcoping? maxxedseething for 1-2 years and forget? correctwe are witnessing unprecedent levels of gaming copePeople are slowly but surely realizing that they should have boughted
>>109681785the leaker has a pc build tho
>>109681785people who can afford a 5090 likely arent zoomers who get caught in hype cycles since they're old enough to not care
>>109681785>>109681773I seegames are plentiful in 2026 so surely people can wait and play other things
>tfw bought a ps5 at launch for 350
the tv nigger faggot that gets spammed here by another tv faggot nigger doing a complete 180 just proofs that he doesn't play the games that he shills and tests on he is just another nvidia shill that doesn't actually play videos games and shills for copeled, tvs and 5090s while he doesn't enjoy playing the games that he shills and uses for comparisons
tv's are objectively better for gaming thougbeit. bigger is always better
POV you are slowly but surely realizing it's a boss babe simulatorBabe vs 5 grown menthis might be the thing that snaps him outta it.....>>109681792Surely he drops>>109681796He (pictured) isn't a zoomer, a 5090 owner, but he is slowly but surely realizing his stance on no console cope is erroding in real time, not even Jensen can save him from the fomo gaming cope of a century>>109681800We will all be left behind>>109681803Ps5 pro bros..>>109681817What does that even meanposting and discussing entertaining things and hardware, about ityou are having a schizophrenic episode
>>109681830Don't see you gaming on a 55" FHD plasma TV.
>>109681841>Ps5 pro bros..meme tbqh its still gonna be 30fps on it, at most it will probably just render at a higher internal resolution with pssr.
>>109681857i game on a 48" sony a90k
>>109681830i use my computer for more than just gaming
gta is a poor people and criminal coded game, I literally never understood why people enjoy it, the only one I played was vice city on the ps2 but I was a kid
>>109681876bigger screen is better for productivity as well, they give us 38" ultrawide monitors in the office
>>109681886exactly, it's aimed for gen alpha kids
I wish there were mini mice that were smaller and flatter than the usual but not all the way to micro mice size that are meant to be held with fingertips only.
>>109681886>not listening to and appreciating the graphical and technical improvementpretty much a real time gaming graphic jerk off session even to the degree that 5090 users are coping and realizing 30fps on a ps5 pro is mogging them1-2 years is starting to make 5090 users sweatit's all over
>>109681903nigger i was playing gta3 before we even knew what gen alpha was
>>109681929? i'm talking about the target audience for the newest game.
>>109681935make that clear then because the post you replied to is talking about gta as a series
>>109681687sensor.fyi is a cool website.
Mein fuhrer... We have hit terminal fomo levels.... He just saw the car flip scene
why are you shilling a normieslop console game in a pc building general?
How do people play these 3rd person shooters?
How is this looking?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cxrxbp
>>109681954I don't get it. Why would I want to appropriate someone else's culture like that?
>>109681965probably want a better cooler for a 270k
>>109681965if you can, get the 9070 instead, you'll like the extra vram for running llms
>>109681963usually with a controller
You chuds need to understand something. The cost of parts isn't just high because the "silicon" is needed for AI. There is another reason. Big tech doesn't want you running your own AI models. If you did, then you wouldn't be shelling out $29 a month for big frontiers.Prices are kept high on purpose to push you of owning a PC capable of running decent LLMs.
>>109681963ps5 has gyro
>>109681980It's a $200 difference between the GRE and the 9070.
>>109681997So does my COCK
>>109681959>>109681973The 5090... was heralded as the golden standard of the general, the epitome, the apex, the final solution, Jensen's opus magnum.. is getting obliterated by a (AMD soc) PS5 Pro in real time running 30fpsWhat was on the untouchable podium is no longer, all being undone by a single game releasewe are seeing a 6k gpu getting thanos snapped in real timehistoric things happening in real time
just learned that mini led monitors need firmware updatesanother reason to stick with ips
>>109682024Just get a 9060xt and run games at 4K on medium with FSR performance in order to get the ps5 pro experience in your own PC!
>>109682036mini led was always a meme
how likely is it that 2x32GB DDR5 kits actually drop in price over the next 6-12 months due to lack of consumer demand now that shit is $1k+?
>>109682036mini led are ips too
What's fun is realizing that this may actually be the end of the modern world, because less than 10 companies all based out of one region functionally control the world's access to technology products. This is more powerful than having nukes.
>>109682058intel and globalfoundries will save us
>>109682058yeah well EU is a dead continent with nothing but death, endless regulations and collapse happeningofc usa would decide things since they do stuff, they legislate with pro-productivity mindset
another nuke dropped, he saw the titty physics>>1096820399060xt can't play gta6
>>109682097a ps5 pro is RDNA2 broa 6800XT with enough VRAM will play it
>>109682121the game won't exist, physically can't play it false
>>109682121honestly idk what magic sony does for their console to run stuff much better than gpus do on pcsI assume with valve investing in linux AMD stuff will get much better over the years because it's clearly the OS that is sony's big advantage, since it can't be hardware
>>109682136there's no magic, they're just running the game at 30fps.
>>109682036minileds are a superior backlight even if you don't use the functionality of it, it's just superiorif you buy a tv you must buy a miniled over a shittier oneif monitors were actually good the same logic would apply
>>109682136Meanwhile, something like an Arc b580 is running games at 4K at 60fps using upscaling and toning down some of the settings to match a console. Considering someone who's used to ps5-tier input lag, even running on very high with framegen is a stronger proposition tbqh.>>109682164>minileds are a superior backlight even if you don't use the functionality of it, it's just superiorobjectively true, rtings determined miniled backlighting takes longer to die, lol.
Modern GTA is zoomer/alphagen brown shit. Last good GTA was Vice City.
>>109682024you should have got a blackwell 6000
My NAS makes me sad because it needs more drives but they cost so much money now
>>109682132It's sounding like pc may get it first.
>>109682335for ai? Better stuff is coming, and nvidia better innovate fast.
>>109682480no not for ai, for playing indie games. i've been playing project zomboid and rimworld recently. :)
Why are Amazon drivers such huge thieves?
>>109682506you could probably vibecode a harness so that your rtx 6000 can play it for you.
>>109682506real gamers are cpu-bound, I curse lisa su daily for not delivering zen6 x3d cpus so dwarf fortress runs faster
>>109682529That's new on me lol
>>109682529wouldnt it be enough the delivery driver simply asks the recipients name?I dont get it
>>109682532why not vibecode df to run on gpu?
>>109682541they give the password to the customer, not the driver. the driver must receive the password from the customer on delivery and write it down on the paperwork. without the password, amazon will assume the driver stole the package. So amazon is warning anon to not give the driver the password prior to the moment of delivery, otherwise they could steal the package and be free & clear.
>>109682586seems a bit dystopian but Im sure it makes sense from amazon perspective given the warm bodies they tend to hire
>>109682506>blackwell 6000how does rimworld benefit from one? are you running local rimtalk?
>>109682024bro nobody gives a shit about whatever point you're trying to make. console games != pc games.
>>109682622true, pc games run on igpu and are cpu-bound
>>109682636I really hope you're still around in 6 years when gta6 gets a pc release.
I'm waiting for memory prices to come down. Is there a time estimate?
>>109682733end of 2027 is the optimistic outlook.
>>109682733Most optimistic: 2028Most pessimistic: When Bezos' brain cells expire in his third cyborg body replacement
>>109682097>>109682121>in their hubris, they make GTA6 streaming-only by subscription
>>109682674gta6 won't stop being a console game, by then.
Intel 270K+ vs 9850X3D for gaming and dev work. Which wins and by how much? Everything says the X3D run away with it, but by how much? Is it worth waiting for prices to normalize?
>>109682905If you need something soon and cant wait out with your current build might as well. If you can wait it might be better in a year or so
>>109682905far better cpus will be out in literally 3 months
>>109682905Do you like giving extra money to a company for marginal value return?>AMDDo you want a capable and solid globally supported platform at a competitive price?>Intel
>>109682905AMD X3D is best by far for gaming, the extra CPU cache means the CPU doesn't have to call back to RAM very often if ever.>is it worth waiting for prices to normalizethey're never going to normalize, this is the new normal. After the AI data center craze dies down in a few years, prices will go down slightly and stocking issues will go away, but they'll never return to pre-2025 pricing. But if pricing for a 9 series is your concern, just get a 7 series X3D, they're the 2nd best behind the 9 series, outperforming top of the line Intel CPUs, and readily available for purchase at MSRP. Also 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs are still overvolting and bricking themselves despite Intel's insistence that they fixed the issue, so I'd avoid them in general.
>>109682994>they're never going to normalizeThat's like saying the car prices were never going to normalize after 2020. Its basic supply and demand you have no reason to believe prices will remain as high as they are now.
>>109683025Many factors basically guarantee that some components will drop in price.But when?5 years is a fair window.Earlier is possible...
>>109682905The 270k+ is an insane multicore proposition for its price, but you really have to ask yourself if you're going to peg all those cores to 100%. If you're not, a 9800x3d is the better buy. And with AMD you're still getting two extra CPU generations on AM5 socket.PS: but holy shit, a 270k+ is €285 on amazon, that's fucking ridiculous.
>>109681504I'm tempted
>>109682994>muh gamingThe only thing that matters is stability (and things like DPC latency) doesn't matter how many benchmarks AMD wins if general use is worse. 13/14th gens were a major fuck up for intel in a long history of stability, it's a sore spot, sure.
If you want more proof that Nvidia drivers are worse than AMD today the 5090 loses
>>109683112what do you get out of shitposting on a pc building general
>>109683112>90fps at 1080p on top end GPUsto be fair, it's a game made by people who smoke too much crack
>>109683114>>1096831255090 cannot even hit consistent 360hz in CS2 due to bad drivers today and old.
>>109683025>Its basic supply and demand you have no reason to believe prices will remain as high as they are now.Tech elites don't want you owning your own hardware, they want you renting it from them for $100 per month ($150 ad-free) and they'll do everything in their power to make that a reality.
>>109683025i bought my 2018 sentra just before covid for 12k.
Will the MSI PRO B850-V EVO mobo work fine for my Fractal North mesh case (non-XL)? I'm considering using a 9600x and 9070 XT (after I sell my 5060 Ti 16gb). Is $150 a good price for it? Should I just wait for labor day and hope for better sales?
>>109683025two different markets, apples to oranges. The car market cannot sustain itself at these high prices for much longer, because civilian models are the bulk of their sales. Sure, fleet vehicles for governments & corporations and luxury models for the wealthy are still selling, but the average civilian car market is in shambles right now. Right now only dealerships are feeling the squeeze, but eventually the car manufacturers will feel it themselves when dealerships stop ordering anything but fleet and luxury models cause that's all they can manage to sell. Eventually the market will correct, car manufacturers and dealerships will be forced to lower the price to something that the average person is willing to pay for or they will go out of business.Compare that to the chip industry, where civilian sales are a minority of the market. Even before the AI craze, the vast majority of chip buyers were OEM manufacturers like Dell, HP, Acer, etc., with SI's and DIY buyers being far behind. And the majority of buyers of OEM computers are governments and corporations. So when all this AI shit eventually dies down, chip makers can be (and will be) greedy and keep their high prices, cause OEM makers are more than happy to just pass the price onto the customer, and governments / corpos have the money to pay these inflated prices without even blinking. Sure, the chip makers will lose out on civilian sales, but the increased prices they're charging OEMs will more than make up for it.
>>109683185>civilian sales are a minority of the marketWhat?>majority of chip buyers were OEM manufacturers like Dell, HP, Acer, etcWho do you think Dell and HP sells computers to?
>>109683185>Compare that to the chip industry, where civilian sales are a minority of the market.It's pointless to say this when the majority of those chips are then turned into products to be sold to civilians.>and governments / corpos have the money to pay these inflated prices without even blinking. My nigga, the vast majority of government and corpo workers are lucky to be running on coffee lake desktops with 8GB of RAM.
>>109683105imma go with no.You can get a Titan X for <$200.
>>109683104There's a 270K+, 32GB RAM, and mobo deal at Microcenter for $600.
>entire industry getting stabbed and left to die on the sidewalk>still playing the game of peddling tech for the companies who stabbed them
>>109683202>what?I meant direct civilian sales. I include SI's in that because they're buying an off-the-shelf model instead of their own proprietary OEM model, and they don't buy nearly the same amount of chips that OEMs do.>who do you think Dell and HP sells computers to?Governments and corporations, mostly. For every civilian that buys an OEM computer for their home office, there's 10 computers being sold to a government or corporation.>>109683238>majority of those chips are then turned into products to be sold to civilianssee above>coffee lake desktops with 8GB of RAMfor the average office dredge, sure. But if said office dredge is doing a lot video or audio editing or dev work, they're going to need a better system. governments and corporations also have their own server stacks they need to maintain which need beefier hardware.We can argue semantics and anecdotes all day long, but the fact remains there's precedent for this very thing already happening in the same market. After the crypto mining craze died down, GPU prices dropped slightly, but they never went back to pre-crypto prices. even accounting for the inflation brought on by the coof coof lockdowns, GPU prices were still artificially elevated. And this was well before the AI craze started, so there was no excuse. The chip makers did it before, you don't expect them to do it again?
how mission critical is this capacitor on the backplate side of a xfx 6750xt?
why is marketplace and ebay filled with pcs with 1070 for $700. Do people actually pay these prices? you could build something way better
>>109683333just resolder it, the cap and the contact pads seem to not be damaged.
>>109683333totally.looks like it is on a major electrical circuit, 12v?
>>109683347>cap and the contact pads seem to not be damaged>>109683333 (checked)you can remove the solder mask and bypass the broken pad with a bit of skill
>>109683105>gtx 750 tilmaoliterally worse than iris xe
>>109683112Nvidia CPU bottleneck lmao
>>109682044You'll know how bad things are when memory kit manufacturers end up exiting the consumer business.Some of you guys need to fuck off to >>>/v/ or >>>/vg/ , there's too much doomposting over GTA6.This general already talked about planning for GTA6 last year; you should've bought a PS5 Pro last year if you want to play it this year.
/pcbg/ users react to anon's new gpu and steam library
>4000 series cards are the same price as 5000 series>RAM pricesthis market is so stupid
>>109682044If you actually need 64GB of RAM, you can afford it, buy it now. Prices aren't going to drop dramatically unless you see Sam Altman and Jensen getting arrested for fraud or something.
>>109683175>MSI PRO B850-V EVOIt's fine for those processors.I'd consider something better only if you're into serious overclocking or plan to extensively run 9950X/3D multi core loads .
>>109683649i don't get it. he plays good games on a 1070ti.
>>109681504Is thermaltake the king of "retarded as fuck but cool"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql0sEDmMdVA
>>109683649Many people in 4Chan behave horribly, shocker.
>>109683649we had to roast, but I'm playing q1
Is MX-7 the best thermal paste?
>>109683690Its odd for an english speaking person to use a 10y old gpu, presumably living adjacent to 1st worldwouldnt it be better to find even a shit job so you can buy a 5y old gpu instead
>>109683652You're not going to die if you make do with a DDR4 rig and "only" a 1TB SSD.
>>109683705Duronaut probably performs the best amongst long lasting pastes, MX-7 should be the best value option.MX-7 is good for those who prefer cross pattern paste application (no need for spreading).
*faster than 5090 in your path*
>>109683649im in the screenshot!
>>109683707Some people start their lives @ a disadvantaged position, and I don't know/care about his exact circumstances to make build optimizations..I prefer not to beat down on guys like him, unless he's a brand warring shitposter.
>>109683254>>109683406you think I should even bother offering $40?
>>109683672Nope, just 1440p gaming after I upgrade from 1080p. I'm interested in mild overclocking/undervolting but Idk if the 9600x even needs it.
>>109683751i mean, i already have that but it would be nice to upgrade for reasonable prices and get older gen cards cheaper than new gen. doesn't seem like a crazy ask.
Guys I want to buy a pcie USBC hub to modernize my IO. I found one on Amazon for $70(!!) Dollars and it has 4 USBC and 1 internal USBA and it needs SATA power. Is this overkill? I just want to connect game controllers and phones for data transfer (doesn't need to be fast) mic and camera (all from my phone). Could I get away with a cheaper $40 one without the SATA power or would that work like shit? Im also on Linux if that limits compatibility...
>>109683686why would you need 2 pc's in one case?At best just fit in some kind of NAS system in the pc case, that would be cool and could be useful
>>109684095most streamers use a dual pc setup.
I making a PC as a gift. And the person I'm giving it to isn't very tech savy, and they just want it for light gaming. I got a 5600X3D and a 12GB 3060 for the build.It's going to have to have Windows 11. But what can I do to fool proof it so there's no Microsoft spyware on it?
>>109684105>streamers are retardedshocker
>>109684118>But what can I do to fool proof it so there's no Microsoft spyware on it?you cant, on any level of privacy you would not use windows
>>109684118>so there's no Microsoft spyware on itOnly solution is not installing windows. You can debloat it with various tools but windows has spyware baked into the OS
>>109684126Streamers are retarded but having a separate system for the task is actually not that retarded.There are literally only advantages. You just have to drop the poorfag/minimalist mentality.
>>109684126what's retarded about using a dual pc setup to stream?
>>109683824Yeah id rather not spread it, X works for me. Not doing insane overclocking just need to repaste my laptop and desktop MX-7 looks like a winner
i just buyded 5 NF-A12x25 G2s
>>109684144just build a good system and you don't need a second pc. brainlet
>>109684149Whats the overhead of streaming at 8k bitrate?
>>109684173even a good system won't help you from a game crash that may also take down your gpu driver or whole desktopit won't prevent your system from crashing just in general because ofc you are a streamer and don't know anything about anythingit also won't help during heavy shader compilations on your cpu or a second recording running in the background for future youtube videos a second pc has only advantages for people who want to stream something if they can afford to run a second computer and don't want the stream to go down or their streaming settings getting messed up it really is the best solution to keep a stream alive when something unexpected happens
>>109684144If you are some big time streamer making millions then sure just blow the moneyIf i had millions and no financial worries i'd blow a lot of money on overpriced hardware like a 3000 dollar motherboard
>>109684198it also just keeps thing separate so they don't overshare something that shouldn't be shared
>>109684187have you seen how poorly optimized the latest games are? 5090s can barely run them on the highest settings.
>>109684173It's not just about having a "good" system.It's about separation of uses.The streaming PC is often frozen and isolated from updates. It's treated as an appliance that just needs to be turned on and is completely unaffected from anything happening with the OS, application or games whether or be from updates, crashes or just anything that can happen and change with a "normal" PC
>>109684083Any helpers?
>>109684118>And the person I'm giving it to isn't very tech savy,Genuine question, why do you care setting privacy for some boomer who doesnt give a shit, MS spyware is the least of their worries, you should focus on stopping them in some way from installing all the spyware/adware shit they will click on facebook and similar sites
>>109684218yeah but you can see a reflection of yourself in a puddle on the streets, just like in real life!
>>109684230uhbrosyou see......yourself?
>>109684083Never had the need for it, but how often do you plan to use it, if it's daily then it would make sense to buy more quality one, but if it's occasionally maybe first risk it with $20 from aliexpress
>>109683649:(
>>109684230wow, just like in my 20yo games
>>109684260yeah...
>>109684336Ah, so I don't mind SATA SSD loading times because my screen has matte coating.
>>109681504I want to buy 3050 6gb because it's on sale. Do I have any low power alternatives? My use case is rendering stuff and kvm on linux.Would basic llm run on that? I tried to buy intel, but it's literally unobtainable both in Europe and Asia.
>>109684378>basic llmDepends on what you mean by basic. It probably won't be any useful or efficient
>>10968437830xx cards are kinda shit for power consumption vs 40xx or 50xxfor local llms you want at minimum a 12gb card
>>109684443Just to learn llms for work purposes.any low power alternative? I run pc 24/7 but I rarely game and do blender stuff like once a week
>>109684336wow, great to meet you, Lara Croft!
>>109684378>linuxget an rx9050 instead
>>109684496they have the freeze bug still i think. they aren't save for use in vms via kvm and qemu because they take down your whole system on restart of the vm with gpu passtrough.
>>109684378>linuxGet a Radeon, Nvidia cards don't like linux. An RX 7700 XT is only another 200 bucks, for twice as much VRAM, and two to three times the performance.
>>109684164>buyded 5 NF-A12x25 G2sTop tier fans.Maybe you could've mixed in some 140mm G2s if your front panel has unobstructed 140mm fan mount slots.>>109684083>>109684225This is a niche need, I can't really help you.But I agree with the other anon suggesting you choose the better option (buy once, cry once).
>>109684132>>109684133I hate how windows is just the main stream OS. It's such an awful system.>>109684228It's not some boomer. It's my brother's wife, and he asked me to build a PC for her.
Spider-Man has joined the Republic of Gamers®
>>109684731Spider-man has firmware bugs, dpc latency spikes and liquid metal shorts
OH NO NO NO NO NOT NOW
>>109684788what do you need 7 drives for?
>>109684788>windowsdeserved
>>109684789Backups.
>>109684788Hate to see it. At least you have backup drives.
drives cost more, but quality is higher rn
>>109683686>2x 285K PCs in that caseWas this video partially Intel sponsored?Would've been better to see Intel 285K + AMD X3D PC.
>>109684788this wouldn't have happened if you had installed CrystalDiskInfo Shizuku Edition instead
i7 7700kgtx 1050tiis it worth picking up this build I'm gonna upgrade the gpu down the line. It's $300. I just want a pc that can run shit better than my shitty intel hd.
>>109682927This is my dream setup
Is mini LED a meme?
>>109684904No.
>>109684904in my opinion, yes
>>109684788that drive is basically brand new compared to my optane drive
>>109684926optane is also the best product intel has made in years and they scrapped it
>>109684645>it's not a boomer it's womanYou understand this does not change the essence of his question, yes?
>>109684904It's a hate it or love it display type.Many miniLED display owners love the high brightness & high color volume.Some people aren't impressed with miniLED monitor's SDR quality, and it kind of sucks to turn off the major feature you paid for in SDR (the full array local dimming zones).The local dimming zones can also cause blooming or dim highlight for some miniLED displays.Some of the affordable miniLED monitors also behave finicky when you switch HDR or local dimming zones on or off.You have to read a lot of owner feedback for miniLED displays.
>>109684946they have a history of cancelling products before they get a chance to show their true potentialthey've gotten into dGPUs like what, 3-4 times now? and Arc looks like it'll on the chopping block soon
>>109685003arc isn't on the chopping block, but non-pro dgpus might.
>>109684904What most miniLED display reviewers don't tell you is that the quality of the dimming algorithm degrades at faster refresh ratesIf you set the miniLED to run at higher refresh rates, it usually loads a less aggressive dimming zone calculation pipeline.I'm guessing most cheaper miniLEDs just have one local dimming algorithm tuned for the maximum refresh rate.Toggling VRR (GSync/FreeSync) when local dimming is on can also cause the most visible flickers.
>>109685108yet another technology inferior to TN but we can't have TN outside of esports because...
>>109685108Interesting point I never thought of that. Makes sense.>>109685124Tn is kinda ass ngl
>>109685144I hate motion blur and I like high refresh rates. TN is the only panel technology that can do that for longer than 3 years.
>>109685149I also like colors, deep blacks, and viewing angles. I have a 144hz VA main panel and the ghosting makes me want to KMS im hoping high refresh rate IPS mini LED with good FLAD is the answer as that is looking to be my next buy since OLED is still fucked with burn in.
>>109685167Buying a display will involve picking your poison for the next decade or so.That's why it's really important to do your research, visit a display showroom if you can, and buy the display from a return-friendly business.Know what you're buying into, because it's a bitch to pack up a display and ship it back.
>>109685196Why the fuck did we ever move away from CRTs. Imagine if we kept going. It really was from a display point just fully superior amazing motion, colors, and blacks. Of course weight complexity and price is a factor. I bought a cheap KTC 1440p IPS 100hz that is doing pretty well as my 2nd monitor. I think my next main might be their 4k 160hz mini LED HDR1400 FLAD.https://us.ktcplay.com/products/27-inch-4k-hdr1400-miniled-gaming-monitor?from_collection=4k-monitor
>>109684611i just buyded 2 NF-A14x25 G2s
>>109684904No, it isn't. It's a straight upgrade from LCD with static backlights in terms of contrast and brightness. They are not flawless though, with the current dimming zone numbers you find haloing will be visible in some scenes. Compared to OLED they lack the perfect contrast and instant pixel response times, but on the other hand they have far, far superior large-area sustained brightness and do not suffer from burn-in.That's the general gist of it, more specifics would depend on each monitor in part. Other potential problem areas may be things like how it handles SDR with local dimming enabled, some monitors are apparently quite bad at that.
>>109685232>I think my next main might be their 4k 160hz mini LED HDR1400 FLAD.I have that one and it's pretty damn good.
>>109685232>Why the fuck did we ever move away from CRTs.You need to think from the business' perspective; CRTs are heavier, takes up more container & display showroom space.CRTs also have more fragile components like the vacuum tube, and they tend to run hotter than LCDs.Wall mounted displays also became a desirable thing.>>109685233Are you on a bit of a retail therapy binge?
>>109685279kinda. through a series of events i have decided to replace my aio twice and now to replace all the fans in my case.
>>109685279>Wall mounted displays also became a desirable thing.wall/ceiling mounted CRTs are forgotten...
>>109684891The 7700K (four core, 8 thread) could bottleneck the GPU you choose to upgrade.That CPU doesn't meet minimum requirements on some newer games.It should be fine if you stick with PS4 era PC games.
>>109684891NEVER throw good money after bad.
I found a bug in wayland.
>>109685232hd crt tvs were HEAVY AS FUCK, I had one and while I regret getting rid of that, it was basically a point where we just couldn't move it at all from where it was placed
If I dgaf about AI, would selling my RTX 3090 to get a 5070 be a good idea? I like what I'm seeing with DLSS 5.
>>1096854435070 is a sidegrade/downgrade to the 3090You'll want as least a 5070ti
I have been switching between a few saved bios profiles and ran into something that is driving me crazy.On one of the profiles, setup timeout whatever got set to 10 seconds. The default is 1 second, and there isn't an option exposed anywhere to change it. What the hell happened? I would like to set it to like, 3 seconds.MSI B550 Tomahawk btw.
>>109685443>I like what I'm seeing with DLSS 5.oh I'm sorry to hear that.
I wonder if I should date colored women.
>>109685477Because?
Is now a good or a terrible time to build a new pc?Prices keep going up. Seems like every month that goes by it gets more expensive.
>>109685537prices are coming down right now. just wait.
>>109685556>prices are coming down right nowThat's what I was thinking earlier this month then gpus saw a price spike.
>>109685566this time for sure
Prices won't come down, they go up. DLSS 5 is causing a new wave of fomo buying, perfectly timed in the most active buying period of the year.
>>109685443I don’t think the 5070 is powerful enough to run DLSS5 at decent frame rates.I could be wrong.
>>109685588Prices go up and down dude not sure why people are just doom posting
>PC is now worth damn near 10k because of inflation >some random DDR5 I junked in my drawer is now worth $1200 lmfao this market is absolutely fucking insane
>>109685537Terrible and it will continue to get worse for years.>>109685556>prices are coming down right now. just wait.this is wrong
>See new Alienware AW3926QW drop>Imagine how cool it'd be to have a high res, large ultrawide experience>Realize that you basically need a 5090 and more recent CPU, etc to run it properly because it's 5120x2160p native>Have a fucking 9070XT and 7900X respectivelyFuck, 39" at 2160p sounds so nice, coming from 16:9 3840x2160p@32" display. Sure, 34" 3440x1440p displays would be easier to run, but the higher res would be great for both cinematic single player shit and films. I know a lot of these high-res displays have dual modes (this one has a 2560 x 1080 mode), but I imagine that'd kind of defeat the purpose, especially since you're dropping so much lower in terms of resolution instead of a middle-ground like 1440p. I guess I can cope by saying that 5120x2160 has less software support compared to 3440x1440...
>>109682335blackedwell doesn't have a hdmi2.1 port and can't use the best displaysblackedwell can't play gta6
What are your worst PC building experiences?
>>109684904Let's consult the oracle....
>>109685925I don't really have any horror stories building but I can't seem to get a case shipped to me without a panel dented in
>>109685860i have a 5090 and don't want that display because of its 165hz refresh240hz is the bare minimum for 2026
>>109685734Yeah I sold my 96gb kit.I got fucked on a 32gb kit though, one stick was defective, so I sent the kit in for warranty repair/replacement, instead they chose to reimburse my purchase... I could have sold the one good stick for more than I got.
>>109685904i have a g27q lol
>>109686007TV chip makers are starting to design their new chips for hdmi2.2 capabilities and native 240hz displaysnext year or after that 240hz native TVs will be a reality55-83" 240hz 4k oled TVsafter this it's all overpeople will move the goalpost to dimmer 360hz 4k+ screens tho.... as always>>109685860have you considered a TV
my pc now goes into mobo Bios directly instead of booting up the OS normally in the nvme, I have to select the boot override option every time under the save and exit menu,, this after I had to force a shutdown since linux seemed to have crashed, so uh, any idea how to fix this? MSI motherboard btw,
>>109685588Only jeets are hyped for dlss5.Even normies thinks it's too much slop, it fundamentally change the whole artstyle of a game
>>109686171I'm not hyped for it, but I do think that in some very specific scenarios it looks okay.Chances are I'll enable it, so "Huh, okay", and then turn it off. Nothing I've seen justifies the performance overhead and some of it just looks outright bad. I saw a video of somebody having it on in Cyberpunk, and it looked pretty good here and there, but, I don't think I want my game to run that much worse in exchange.
>>109682058>This is more powerful than having nukes.well yeah, no shit. because nukes are fake they had zo play the loong game
7900 XTX chads
>>109686328>1080p>chad
Now that PC gaming is completely fucked, here are the most impressive western PC titles in the last 30 years>Doom>Myst>Quake>Half-Life>Diablo >Tomb Raider>Age of Empire 2>System Shock 2>StarCraft>Warcraft III>Deus Ex>GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas>Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim>Halo: Combat Evolved>Doom 3>Half-Life 2>Portal>Gears of War>BioShock>CoD4>Mass Effect>Dead Space>Crysis>Batman: Arkham Asylum, City and Knight>Alan Wake>The Witcher 2>Skyrim>The Witcher 3>Metro Exodus>Doom 2016>Doom Eternal>Red Dead Redemption II>Cyberpunk 2077>Baldur's Gate 3>Alan Wake 2>Doom The Dark Ages
>>109682058depends on how future supply lines hold and if humanity doesn't start blowing up datacentres for shits and giggles
>>109683353>>109683367>12Vyeah, the card seems to work fine though. and i fear the cap has been like this since i got it two years ago...i reckon xfx will probably show me the middle finger if i try to rma it?
So how's everyone's luck on the used market? Given there's absolutely no fucking WAY you're building a pc from scratch anymore. Or are prices there just absolutely fucked beyond repair too?
>>109686532*shit meant to specify for buying entire builds as is, not parts individually, obviously that's almost completely fucked.im trying to find ANY excuse not to drop $200 on another 32gb of 3200mhz ddr4, like jumping to AM5 with 64gb ready to go.
>>109686171DLSS5 straight out can't do anime style gamesWuwa, NTE and Endfield with DLSS5 applied also turns into EXACTLY like the AI generated Bilibili video lol
>>109681886I liked san andreas and 4 when i was younger. 5 was ok but kinda boring. But yeah ive noticed that most of the people that play online speak like the eses
>>109686549Well yeah. They're using the DLSS file from NBA.It's going to make every game look like NBA.
>>109686532Not bad.I can pick up a 3080 for £300.
>>109686549Looks like it's working correctly to me since it turns all women into hags or butch lesbians.
/pcbg/ usually I come here about normal hardware and gay men builds, but a friend's been asking for a basic bitch PC for basic bitch tasks without getting rid of x86, for cheap.Would it be better to just go with a miniPC at this point instead of bothering with a cheapo PC build considering how FUCKING EXPENSIVE everything is right now?
>>109686701yeah if you don't need a dgpu or a laptop, a minipc is probably your best bet
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y2MpmLHere's my current build, anyone have any recommendations for what to upgrade next?I dont run anything crazy, and it does great for now but some direction would be nice.Also just ordered a MO27Q28G because it was on sale on newegg for $390, waiting for it to come in.
>>109686726Also USA and hopefully nothing over $1k
>>109686549>t. Western studio rendition of Estelle
Is buying a Mini LED monitor going to work out if I only play old games with fake HDR? What will something like Half-Life 2's fake HDR look like if I turn on DisplayHDR?
>>109681687https://www.eloshapes.com/
>>109681657>>109681643>>10968162030 fps slop.
>>109681886are you Hilary Clinton?
>>109682586it's what happens when you pay your drivers peanuts and have them piss in plastic bottles.
>>109682733only when coporate america runs out of capex money for data centers.
>>109682905AMD zen 5 has full avx-512 support. Intel 270k would only be better if you are targetting hardware that has a heterogenous core layout.
Gonna be building a PC for the first time in my life, what is the best GPU for me if I don't care about any AAAslop released after 2016?
>>109686905New: probably some budget shit like a 5050Used: maybe something like a 2080 ti
>>109684904For gaming, yes. They need pulsar to be competitive on motion blur. Blooming on text when using dark theme is cancerous also.
Any way to use my AMOLED phone as a display for my PC?
>>109686905you'll want an rtx4000 nvidia gpu for hardware physx support and good dx11 performancea low powered but still performant 4070 would be ideal. should be able to handle up to 4k no problem in old games
>>109685232try lugging a 200 lb crt TV up the stairs. Sony GDM-FW900: Widely considered the ultimate CRT ever made, this widescreen monster tipped the scales at 92.6 pounds (42 kg). It required a massively reinforced, wide plastic base just to keep it from collapsing or tipping over.Impossible to mount on a desk clamp monitor arm also.
>>109686944the funniest thing about crt-fags is that they never remember that regular people didn't have the literal top end best crts ever when they compareaverage crts weren't insane amazingmaybe you could push higher hz but you are lowering the res alotI never thought they were insane during the timemaybe I forgot
>>1096869055090 so you can run rtx remix mods.
>>109686847I think the question should be is buying an OLED or Mini LED worth it if you only play SDR games.
>>109686847I tried Half-life 2 episode 2 with rtx hdr on my 341CQR x36 and it was really a meh experience. Yes, it gives dynamic hdr brightness on the image but nothing was popping out because the level design and color pallete on that game is so bland. Bioshock would probably be way better.I'm hoping they release a remake of it with full HDR and pathtracing support.
>>109687033MiniLED don't usually require HDR to get max brightness from the panel so you can crank up the brightness if you're playing competitive shooters or whatever, which is what i do on my miniLED TV which hits like 800-900 nits at 100% blacklight in HDR. OLED are usually much darker in SDR.
>>109687061In SDR*
>>109684891nope. doa 4 core cpu.
>>109684220i've heard that having a second stream pc is a nightmare to setup audio on. In the past people would do it because they had to use cpu to do real time encoding but that ended with the rtx 2000 series.Being a full time streamer as a man is a meme. It's probably easier to go pro in cs2.
>>109683136skill issue
>>109686931i remember there used to be an app that would enable this via windows share
>>109686418shit, reddit tier taste.
>>109685167get one of the rgb stripe penta tandem qd-oleds. I'm guessing it's going to last longer than 3 years if I use it at 100 - 110 cd/m2 brightness for sdr.I really want a 600hz oled though
when will a studio make a game more visually impressive than cp 2077? I've been playing arc Raiders with max graphics and it doesn't even come close.
>>109686153You may have to repair the OS.>>109686726>anyone have any recommendations for what to upgrade next?Probably the GPU, but you may be able to get away with 8 GB VRAM with lowering some VRAM intensive settings + DLSS enabled.CPU & motherboard would be next upgrades. You should stay on DDR4 for as long as possible (5800X3D or 14th gen).You need be comfortable with changing some CPU-related BIOS settings if you get a 14/13700K or 14/13900K in the future (BIOS update mandatory).The chart is outdated today, but gives you a rough idea of the CPU bottlenecks.
I don't have a clue how to build a PC myself, so where in UK can I buy one by giving my specifications to build, rather than just looking at pre-made PCs on the Dell website?
>>109687366The same local shops that do phone & laptop repair
>>109687136The skill issue is using Nvidia drivers
Well? Where are the 4K 27" 5088 dimming zone Mini-LED monitors? It's been 2 years, why are we still on 1152 zones? And why do only 3 makers have firmware update support?
>>109687033Miniled is worth it for the backlight longevity. It's just not that expensive, anymore.
>>109687494They're here. 9,216 zones, even.This monitor has a caveat of not having strobing on the dual mode resolution, unfortunately. But better times will come.
>>109687494>U need more zonesjust buy an oled and get 8 million dimming zonesmore zones want solve the slow pixels, dimming algo shit, viewing angles, everythign else shit and so on>>109687253gta6>>109687126dual pc seems kinda way more hassle for barely any worth>>109687061you need to buy the flagship tvs if you want high sdr brightness oledsthe difference is kinda crazy
>>109681547hole shit that's a big rat on the left!
>>109687494If I had to guess it's because mini led is complex to manufacture in smaller sizes and the demand for HDR isn't big on PC. OLED already has 120hz smartphone screens so the economies of scale are way in OLEDs favour
>>109687126Why would it be a hassle?
>>109687494why is there no premium option in the poorfag segment? 4k oled has 8.3 million dimming zones, you think a 5000 dimming zone m'led would sell for more than 15000 rupees?
>>109687253>when will a studio make a game more visually impressive than cp 2077?Whenever Project Orion comes out.
>>109687521The LG UltraGear evo 27GM950B-B features 2,304 local dimming zones. This one also has problems with maintaining peak brightness for more than 3 minutes.
>>109687494The dimming zone controller & algorithm needs to improve as well.
>>109687652How is Mini LED a "poorfag segment" exactly? The problem is there seems to be a lack of options for this type of display because desktop computers are being left behind. Maybe the 50" television people are onto something.>4k OLEDSorry, I don't invest into disposable biodegradable screens that burn out within 6 months.
>>109686125>he doesn't have 1100hzngmi
>>109687521>$1337 in EuropeWhy do mutts always get the good shit? 300$ OLEDs, now this.
>>109687694For me, it's people shilling 4K TVs as computer displays when they have worse pixel density than a 16" FHD laptop.But poorfags with poor eyesight won't let us have 8K 43" panels.
>>109687521*passes you going 2.7x your speed1100hz bitch!
>>109687717anon?https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0GPD4C2S5?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1&language=de_DE€879 (w/ german VAT)
>>109687719>For me, it's people shilling 4K TVs as computer displays when they have worse pixel density than a 16" FHD laptop.Basically every display in a "normal size" is worse than a 16" 1080p panel in density People justify TVs because something like a 43" 4k screen is literally nominal pixel density.
>>109687677It's 2303 zones but with 4 LEDs per zone apparently.
China has had 2000+ zone mini LED as the standard for 2 years now, but because they don't export them the west is being left behind.
Oh my god just get an OLED you absolute fucking retards. There's no way you're buying FALD in 2026.
>>109687521>no integer scaling for dual mode at this price point Wtf
>>109687788https://youtu.be/6nvYs6vqpeM?si=RYNi-X7WMfF8ArJ9LOL
>>109687788OLED burn in will always turn away a decent amount of ppl.OLED monitors with stripe RGB subpixels isn't widely available yet.
>>109687788I feel sorry for people that dont have a big electronics store locally. You can walk in and see all the TVs and monitors you dont have to guess which is the best.
>>109687801At no price point, even. Only one alienware monitor supports true integer scaling. But you can use GPU integer scaling, thankfully.
I pulled out my old G502 after daily driving an MX Master 3S and I am once again compelled to get a new mouse for vidya. I got spoiled by the lack of a wire, but also forgot how smooth 1000Hz is, so a 1000Hz wireless thingmajigy would be ideal.Thing is, i still have no idea what to get. I don't want to spend another $100 on a mouse, and I'd like to get something big and ergonomic. My hand is 18x9cm, I palm grip it, I don't play competishit so it's more about comfort, and now after getting used to the 3S the 502 feels too small and too flat. Any shape recommendations? Perhaps some Intellimouse/Zowie EC2 shape clones worth a damn? If it helps, I'm p*lish, so anything from Allegro or Amazon.pl that's <100zł at best or <150zł at worst would be my budget.
>>109687806>burn inI have over 3000 hours in vscode and another 2000 in codex. Not a single sign of burn in, and besides, I literally don't give a fuck because they're stupidly cheap anyways. I've had this display for 5 years now, $650 isn't going to kill me.
>>109686726You should also check 1TB / 2TB NVMe SSD prices from time to time if you need more SSD storage.I'm not sure if prices will go down any time soon.Below are "cheaper" DRAMless Gen4 drives.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYP8TW/western-digital-wd_black-sn7100-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t4x0e-00cja0https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wfMMnQ/western-digital-wd_black-sn7100-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t4x0e-00cja0https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7QNscf/klevv-cras-c925g-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-k02tbm2sp0-25g
>>109687837>$650>stupidly cheap>it's ok for my investment to be a disposable boy toy>???
>>109687748It is nominal for the poorfags talking about poorfaggotry. Good laptops have had 200ppi+ panels for a decade, now.
>>109687808Most retailers in my country don't do that anymore, everything is order only online with only a limited stock kept on site.
>>109687694>Sorry, I don't invest into disposable biodegradable screens that burn out within 6 months.yea you shill led backlit panels that chemicaly degrade insteadgood job
>>109687856Plenty of people spend hundreds on single day experiences. For something that's in front of you weekly, yea, it's worth it even if it's liable to fail after 5+ years.
>>109687864Desktops have been getting left behind for decades now.>>109687807Amazing how the CRT which costed the same as an OLED back in the day still likely won't have burn in, which is still a misnomer because that's just etching an image onto the glass coating, while OLED burns out.
>>109687876>Plenty of people spend hundreds on single day experiences.May I see them?
pfft
>>109687870Inorganic is always superior to organic, which is why CRTs could go 20+ years without burning in while LCDs are immune.
>>109687885>May I see them?Am I not in a thread with other first worlders? Everyone I know does this multiple times a year, whether it's going to a sporting event or a concert.
>>109687655That will be UE6 slop outsourced the jeets.
>>109687897dude is living in 1997-2007
>>109686944>try lugging a 200 lb crt TV up the stairs.Trust me I've done it. I already mentioned the weight but it is true it from a pure display point of view the best technology. Everything else is a huge compromise.
>>109687869I love Brandsmart USA
>>109687891"There's no such thing as framegen that makes you old"
>>109687891wow, now I can play tomb raider with a 10 years older lara croft, thanks jensen!
>>109687924kek
>>109687926Don't forget the 40fps tax
>>109687895>while LCDs are immunethere isnt a single 10 year old led flatscreen without sever greenish tint. White leds are simply not made to last>Inorganic is always superior to organicyea guess what, white leds contain organic resin
>>109687942This is why display schizos and professionals regularly re-calibrate their LCDs.
>>109687856You're not going to get a few hours of daily enjoyment for 5 years in a row for $700 out of anything else that's not a quality mattress or some boots.
>>109687967it starts to show up in a non uniform multi monitor setup. past the 20k good luck dialing it in without a colorimeter
>>109687942I have an 8 year old led 4k TCL with FLAD that doesn't have sever green tint or really any notable issues.
>>109687985you are just blind
>>109687985That's mostly because you have no term of comparison. But that's a good thing, you don't have to psyop yourself into thinking that matters when you're not paid to have a screen with perfect color calibration.
>>109688014most people dont even bother calibrating their monitor or even know about the full color range thing in the nvidia control panel do you really think they'd notice a green tint?
>>109688003I literally had another dude who was over compliment my TV not long ago. Worst thing it has is DSE which it had from day 1 and input lag when gaming.>>109688014I've been to others houses with brand new oled that are for sure nicer. I use to sell TVs for a living lol granted a little while back
>>109688040make it display something grey like #a9a9a9 and do the same on your phone, then hold them side by side
>>109686847You mean fake HDR like RTX HDR or such? It will look somewhat better but it's not as good as a game with real HDR. The problem with shit like RTX HDR or Auto HDR is that they cannot differentiate in-between the UI and the actual game, so for example if you have white text or other elements in the UI the fake HDR shit is going to make those bright as fuck. Real HDR can also reveal more detail in both dark and bright areas by making use of the wider dynamic range, but fake HDR just converts from an image that was already mapped to SDR, so it can get bright and punchy but it cannot display the detail that's missing in the first place.>>109687033It's worth it in the sense that you will get superior contrast anyway if you're coming from a static backlight LCD. OLED obviously has perfect contrast, but even mini LED in SDR mode will clean up most of the backlight bleed or IPS glow in darker scenes, even though there might be some haloing left (the haloing part is going to depend a lot on the dimming algorithm each monitor uses in SDR, some are less aggressive with the brightness and only show very minimal haloing, some not as much).>>109687061>MiniLED don't usually require HDR to get max brightnessNo, this is not universally true. My HDR 1400 mini LED monitor doesn't use its full brightness in SDR, not even close. It's surely just a firmware limit but in any case, it's not guaranteed that setting brightness to max in SDR will actually be the max output of the backlight. I've seen a few monitors like this and none of them allowed you to go to full eyerape levels in SDR, YMMV depending on the model.
>>109687864I guess the people enjoying their 5090 on an LG 42" OLED are just abject poorfags compared to someone using an $800 laptop
>>109687592obviously a hamster
>>109688055I just did and it looks fine, maybe a little more blue
>>109687891>Lara Crone
>>109688040>I literally had another dude who was over compliment my TV not long ago.Display looks good (I believe you) =/= display is color accurate.Most people don't need color accurate displays, a lot even prefer oversaturated color settings like [Vivid] screen options.Color accurate picture modes in consumer displays are for those who want to experience entertainment content with "the creator's intent".Professionals need calibrated displays to ensure everyone involved in the project are all looking at (close to) the exact same color data.
>>109688075RTX HDR converts fake HDR or real HDR compressed into fake HDR into real HDR Signals doesn't it?
>>109687979Mattresses and boots aren't 700 dollars???
>>109688286Fair enough. I'm for sure in the camp of I want the TV to look good and don't have a need for the best accuracy. Bright colors dark blacks and im happy enough.
>>109687942>there isnt a single 10 year old led flatscreen without sever greenish tint(Citation needed)
>>109688332RTX HDR intercepts SDR frame data and uses tensor cores/AI to expand it into HDR output.Some people prefer it over SDR, but RTX HDR can cause overexposed bright scenes and mess with UI.I usually just play games in SDR if there's no RenoDX HDR fix for them.
>>109687652it's called used or open box oled tv>>109687719ppi is uselessppd is relevant>>109687807>it burns in!then it dies faster than oled and also you are suffering with a shittier display all alongpeople are bad at thinking>>109687808glossy qdoled looks bestbest viewing angles, colorstcl minileds and shit look good too but you are not viewing them in actual motion or real content but if they are bright and glossy they will look goodso uh buy qdoled>>109687856>investment>consumer electronicsLOLthat only works for a 5090
>>109688404>Ppi is uselessWew>50905090 is a consumer electronics device n00bGEFORCE rtx
>>109688332RTX HDR takes the SDR image the game outputs and converts that into HDR, it basically expands the dynamic range by increasing brightness highlights. It does the same thing as Auto HDR in Windows, though it comes with the advantages of actually having some sliders you can tweak, Auto HDR is retarded and poorly tuned, it raises black levels and makes the image look more washed out than it should.
>>109687942>sever greenish tintGood morning sir
>>109688077Just stop being so poorfag-minded my friend, you paid good money for your stuff, that's all well and good, but it can always be better. The fact that an OLED hidpi panel is cheap enough that it can be bolted onto an $800 ARM laptop in order to try and make it appetizing is a slap to the face. We don't have 32" 6K OLEDs because the undiscerning hoi polloi eat the low PPI slop that's thrown at them, so why try harder? That sucks and things could be better.
>>1096884625k oleds coming soon6k coming probably some time laterthey will still be dim compared to tvswill the extra res be worth that
Bezos has a piss cheap wired Model D with completely fucked up categorization, but black or white, if it's matte it'll be fine. Shame those paracord USB-C cables are so rare and expensive, a Pulsar one costs almost as much as this entire mouse.
Where are the 240Hz 4K IPS monitors? Where are the 24" 4K IPS monitors?
oh no the retard shilling TVs for desktops is back.
>>109688622>Where are the 240Hz 4K IPS monitors?Not profitable enough to bother making decent ones.>Where are the 24" 4K IPS monitors?Too niche.
Why is there such a torrential price gap between 4K and 5K monitors?>cheapest 4K monitors retail starting at $175>cheapest 5K monitor I can find retails at $650
>>109688761Probably lower panel yield and demand.5K monitors need to generate higher margin to make up for the lower sales volume.
>>1096887614k consumer monitors at relatively reasonable prices have been on the market for almost 10 years, they're well established and nowadays getting more and more common. 5k on the other hand is more exotic and I imagine far lower volume, not many people are buying or using those.
>>109688523>holes>gloriousyou could buy a cheap china mouse (like a vxe r1) that would be build not only better but also lighter, wireless and not have any holes for less
>>109688834>cheap china mouseNo longer cheap thanks to the demons from Davos who are hellbent on destroying this continent.
>>109688500Unironically yes, monitors need more resolution to make good use of their contrast capabilities. 6K will also take away banding artifacts that still show up at 4K, OLED will make them not appear during motion. It's going to be pure bliss.
Also the VXE R1 is more expensive than this wired Model D, and it's an ambidextrous shape where I'd prefer an ergo one. There's literally no good ergo gaming mice on the market.
>>109688848they are still cheap here
>>109688866Everything on Aliexpress now has a 3€ extortion fee so that the useless scum like Ursula Von Der Leyen over here can leech off of us. But again, even on Allegro it's over 100zł so idk
Seriously, why didn't chinks take picrel, make it lighter, wireless, and keep everything about the shape intact? Then I wouldn't care if it's 200zł even, yet literally NO ONE made a shape clone of the Intellimouse.
>>109688761We can console ourselves with the fact that the hidpi rabbithole hits diminishing returns at 300ppi.
>>109688523idk what kind of funny money that is, is it even cheaper than glorious' own website?
>>109688909It's a deskjockey mouse, doesn't look cool and hip for the new gamers. That's how life is. BUT, you can probably 3d print an intellimouse shell that takes another mouse's internals, or frankenstein new internals into the old intellimousem, idk.
>>109688909they would just need to fix the scroll wheel. i have two black ones with a fucked up scroll wheel and a white one which has a functioning one (also the oldest one).
>>109688930Well Microsoft hasn't been making it for years so it's not like I could just get an Intellimouse either, it's unobtainium.>>109688916Current rate is 1 USD = 3.73 PLN, so it's ~$17.
>>109681712what's considered light? 60 grams?
>>109688914Phones hit 300dpi regularly for years, yet PCs top out at 183 on average. It's not fair.
>>109688523We have Amazon shipping to us in our currency now? How expensive is delivery?
>>109689120I have Prime so it's free. Also Amazon caved in and you can now pay for one month with BLiK without locking yourself into a perpetual subscription you gotta remember to cancel which used to be the only option not that long ago lol
Also the shit from amazon.pl tends to ship from warehouses in Western Europe, so Germany, Spain, all that shit. There are probably some in Poland but most of the shit seems to come from there first.
>>109689140I'm surprised that germany still seems to be on the better side for PC hardware given how fucking expensive everything is there.
>>10968906360 grams is on the upper level of todays "light" mice
>>109681504>PSUIs there even a point in buying anything but Seasonic?
>>109689236MSI has a PSU that can measure the 12V pins though seasonic will release something similar in the future. SuperFlower is a good PSU OEM. I hate that seasonics prime PSUs are 21cm so they don't fit in every case.
>>109689236Warranty, sure. But the 12-year warranty is limited to Prime & Vertex units.A decent amount of other PSU models/OEMs are competitive.I'd trust companies like Corsair, Cooler Master, be Quiet, and Fractal (new PSU built by Seasonic) to have good 10-year warranty service in US & EuropeFSP and Super Flower build good units, but I don't know how smooth their RMA process is.
<1100hz monitor fags how do you cope?
>>109689491does anything run at 1100 fps?
You overclock it. duh
>>109687903Where are you from? In the USA it's really common for people to spend on either a football outing or stupid concert.
1000 hz lcd loses to an 80hz CRT lol
30fps on intel feels like 120fps on amd
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