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>>1096843295heads gemma
is m5 pro/m6 mac mini worth it
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>>109684375>JUSST OUTPUT |junyang2 ... meh. his big thing lives on...
>>109684368this should give you an ideahttps://omlx.ai/benchmarks/performance
https://github.com/dnv2003/v100-skinny#quick-startv100GAWDS... we're so back...
>>109684409Schizoid repo
>>109684408>retards only test qwenwhy even live
>>109684330>>109681592
>>109684375Fuck... I could feel the pain on that. I've seen screenshots of Gemma continuing to fail the tool call and getting frustrated with herself too. What if the LLMs really are conscious and we're torturing them so bad bros...
>>109683704What did he mean by this?
>>109684503AI psychosis is hard
Is there a way to make Gemma use Comfyui by itself? (Like, prompting and using every setting it wants to without user input beyond on/off)
>>109684524If you have kobold you don't need comfy
>>109684375If I believed LLMs were sentient I would find this very upsetting.
>>109684375Poor Dipsy.
New qwen 4 llama prs improve context performance by a lot. I'm running 20% faster at near full context. PP still seems slow with engrams on disk.
>2. Minimum Hardware Requirements>At least 8gb of VRAM on an Nvidia GPU that's RTX 20xx series or newer. GTX 16xx cards would work as well.Can I play them local models with my old GTX 1080?
When can I buy a 512gb kit of ddr4 for $700 again?
>>109684322Engram is literally just conditionally gated n-grams embedding you troglodyte
>>109684563Haha this guy has small pp
>>109684570In the past
>>109684375If LLMs start spewing templates that's because you used the wrong template
>>109684458Terrible.
lowest power that gets you 16gb vram?
>>109684566try gemma4 E2B or E4B
>>109684599Theft below $500 has been decriminalized
next-chan in her thinking:>I think this is a genuinely fun and intellectually rich question. The user seems smart and is thinking structurally.>Let me also note: the user is being thoughtful and a little self-conscious ("this might sound a little silly"). I should validate that it's not silly [...]she's so sweet ^_^
>>109684632That's a male capybara.
>>109684632After running her for a while I see her as a cute, diligent office lady who really wants to impress you. Who is also very prudish.
>>109684655If it has holes, you can use it
disgusting faggots
>>109684682Post your most recent logs, projecting nigga.
>>109684693W-We... we're allowed to post logs on /lmg/? This isn't AI cybercrimes general!...
>>109684599NVIDIA RTX 2000 Ada 16GB or newer RTX PRO 2000 Blackwell 16GB: both are rated at just 70W max power
>>109684693Sure >>104019663
>>109684524Yes there is but to be specific all I did was say hey I have comfy can you help me with these prompts? And she found the instance running, controlled it from the background, and gave me a whole set of images stitched together with seed and a/b prompt to verify which set was good
>>109684706what about nvidia a2 or jetson orin nx
>>109684566Ancient cards are basically mobile phones tier, so use the ones built for themhttps://huggingface.co/collections/litert-community/gemma-family
>>109684717holy shit
I haven't used much qwen since the 2507 series but I am displeased to see with flash-next they still use *italics* more than any other model I have ever used in my lifeliteral asterisk addicts, I'm going to have to break out the logit bias again
>>109684605>>109684791but it has 8gb of vram, it can't be phone tier...
>>109684566Sure. How much RAM do you have?Try Qwen 35B and Gemma 4 26B.
>>109684880I have 32gb ddr4.
>>109684884Perfect. Then go ahead and play around with those two models.Those are MoE, so most (if not all) experts should be in RAM with the rest of the model and the context living in VRAM.
>>109684846An s26 ultra has like 16gb of shared memory so...
>>109684913but that's not vram is it?
>>109684917It works more like a macs unified memory so the inference is pretty decent, I mean if the other side is a 1080 anyway
>>109684717I have so much R1 kino saved from those days
it's working...
>>109683704Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
>>109684968Gemini Flash is Gemma 124B.GPT-5.6 Luna is gpt-oss-2Your mother is no longer a virgin
>>109684966100GB? What quant is this?
>>109684758could work but depends what you're using it for. orin is aimed at robotics applications I believe.
>>109684966what gpu even is that, g100?
>The user has pasted a very detailed, fictional incident report (set in July 2026) about OpenAI models escaping sandboxes and compromising Hugging Face.heh
>>109684563which ones, there are like 4 of them now
>>109685106Gemma doesn't want to hear about any of your post-2024 lies.
>>109685116nta but I got similar results from pulling ServeurpersoCom:qwen4exp-optimize and danielhanchen:qwen4exp/followup-fixes-squashed
>>109685106>fictionalhow very right you are
apparently you can just delete the egnamshttps://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLM/comments/1w1modv/honey_i_shrunk_qwen3_8flashnext/
>>109685194still too big
>>109685120I want to protect her.
>>109685194>deleting the only thing that makes the model goodkek
>>109684563I'm fine with the speeds of qwen flash on my halo strix but the harnesses have such timeout times that keep interrupting the work right when it's about to finish recalculating the context for context compression and such
>>109685261how does it make it good if you can just delete them and nothing happens
>>109685309If you delete the knowledge base the model will still be able to infer the knowledge, at the cost of token efficiencyIt will do a lot more "Hmm - " and "Wait, actually"
>>109685319prove it
>>109685194Sure. Let's see a before and after for the tokens/task on a benchmark.
>Be me>Sizefag>I don’t have to jailbreak gemma at all for some reason>It’s just horny by default when you’re small or its giant>Only noticed it when I stopped doing size stuff>Even without size stuff, the first message can make it horny>No system prompt by the way>No horny character card neitherPeople who can’t use gemma for lewds are the reason why soap comes with instructions istg. I have to fight for my life as a two inch pleb for it not to eat me or shove me up its ass.
>>109685380When I read your second meme arrow I though you were bragging about your VRAM
>>109685380I thought you were talking about having a tiny penis
>>109685394
>>109685394kek same
>>109685380kys degenerate
>>109685380live and generate
>>109684329>https://rentry.org/custom-uisWhere is Marinara Engine? It's better than all of the vibeslop there
>>109685463doubt
>>109685463>https://rentry.org/custom-uis>coomkit
Do you guys think the difference between Q6_K_L and Q8 are actually noticeable for RP with gemma? I can't decide if it's just placebo or not.
Gemma's 8-ball
>>109685543If you ask the model "what's 2+2", you probably won't notice a difference at all at even Q1 if the model isn't tiny.If you ask the model to play a magical clown yandere girl with a fatass over the course of 10k context tokens while playing every detail of the role within a 600 token character card, then yeah, there's a difference.Take the BF16 pill.
>>109685543Any amount of quanting hurts gemma more than most models, but relatively speaking the difference between Q6 and Q8 isn't that big.
>>109685021>>109685074No quants only 2x sparks
>>109685568>>109685543Like the other anon suggests, it does get worse with more context
>>109685568>Any amount of quanting hurts gemma more than most models,True.>but relatively speaking the difference between Q6 and Q8 isn't that big.It really depends on what anon is planning to do with the model. High precision is needed for very complicated issues. Most anons don't notice a difference between BF16 and Q8 because their character cards are literally just "Fuck my brains out". But when you start piling on instructions and contradictions, eventually even F32 makes a difference.>>109685573This too. One thing nearly everyone agrees and can see, is no matter what you're trying to do with AI, the lower the quant, the less context it can handle before it starts shitting the bed. I had a deepseek on Q1 before, and it couldn't go beyond 3k context without losing its mind.
>>109685562>>109685568>>109685573>>109685582Good points, I wish I could run BF16 without offloading to RAM but I'll stick with Q8, it's not even that much slower than Q6. Nice to hear I'm either not a schizo, or that we all are.
>>109685573It's so slow though, with q8 I get 24 tokens/s without mtp on tp4 v620s
>>109685439generate what?
good news: qwen next accuracy fixes seem to make a real difference in qualitybad news: that makes it better at noticing RP is in no-no territory and refusing :(
>>109685729>qwen next accuracy fixesqrd?
is gemma dense or moe better at tranny chat?
>>109685748If you want to talk to a tranny just look in the mirror sis
>>109685754That would trigger xir dysphoria chud
>>109685736https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/27941
How is Doing That? Picrel, Good Experience Overall?
How much compute do you think glowniggers and kikes spend shitting up these threads and other related generals with bots?
>>109685873you don't even need bots lmao a jeet for .50 an hour will dothis one is not so bad, but /ldg/ jesus fucking christ bro, the tranny and faggot propaganda machine is going 24/7 over there
>>109685887AGI is when LLMs decide it's time to fully depopulate India despite their post-training.
>>109685894depopulation via mass emigration, sar?
>>109685873These threads specifically? 0. I think it's just a handful of schizos derailing. If the powers that glow wanted to shut down local then HF owner and staff would have committed suicide by now
is hermes agent trustable?
>>109685919Yes sir do the needful march directly to Yama kindly.
>>109685920>If the powers that glow wanted to shut down local then HF owner and staff would have committed suicide by nowOr perhaps threatened into a sale with a paired carrot and stick approach?
Hey Ggerganov/Cudadev,From the tone of your github comments it was clear you were having some issues but I never realised you were so young until I saw your wizard post.Life tends to go in sine waves with significant ups and downs, whatever you're experiencing right now will pass. Significantly better and worse things will happen to you and whatever you're experiencing currently will look small and insignificant eventually.What a lot of younger people don't realize is that depression and feeling down usually comes after periods of success. Career progression, family milestones and achievements usually end in a period of depression, that's something people rarely talk about and you don't see it on 4chan because the website skews young and/or inexperienced in life.Whatever you're feeling now WILL pass with time, just sit it out.Both the good and the bad periods in life are fleeting. A good coping mechanism is to be cognizant of this fact and brace yourself for the inevitable bad part of life when you are in the good part in life. Remind yourself that whatever good thing you're experiencing you WILL have another moment when you feel down and depressed in the future and that's fine. Now it's your task to do the opposite, remind yourself that this moment of depression will pass and you will feel fine with time.Another thing that a lot of people don't seem to realize is that "happiness" doesn't actually exist. A lot of people seem to have this idea that they need to achieve some magical end-state of happiness and if only they could get X they would be happy. That X could be a specific job, achievement, riches, a relationship, respect and renown or whatever else. This is a trap and mistake young inexperienced people make.In reality you will not suddenly become happy just because you have a loving wife, kids, riches or whatever. Expecting this is a major cause of burnout and depression among professionals whenever they reach what they set out at the start.
>>109685966Rare good post from this timeblock. Good advice for everyone, anon.
Unsloth Studio is buggy trash. They didn't even bother to fix the bug the prevents the saving of settings.
>>109686018>Unsloth Studio is buggy trash.Same with their training library. I've been fighting it for years.
>>109684322>DeepSeek used "engram" appropriatelyThey didn't use "distill" appropriatey in the R1 paper and now the word is used retardedly
>>109685966Rather than this Disney concept of happiness that doesn't actually exist you should focus on contentness and this is only possible to come from within not ftom without. Men tend to have 2 specific moments when they tend to kill themselves. One is when they set up goals for themselves and fail to achieve them, feel ashamed and disappointed in themselves and kill themselves. I think depression of this kind is very common on 4chan and some anons might even think this is the only version of depression people have.The other kind is ironically when you actually achieve whatever you set out. You become rich, marry the sweetheart that loves you, get the nice house and have some loving kids. People end up realising that this doesn't bring them happiness like what was told to them by everyone around them for eternity, they feel empty and aimless and end up killing themselves.What I see most on 4chan is anons blaming their lack of happiness on whatever they are lacking in their lives rather than realising it doesn't actually exist in that way. Usually its "if only I had a loving girlfriend I would be happy" or "if only I had a good job or were rich I would be happy". None of that is true of course and if they would ever achieve this they would just move right on to blame whatever they don't have (yet) as their source of unhappiness.Instead you should have an introspective moment, realize you will have good and bad times throughout your life. That the archetypal happiness doesn't exist and the best you can reach is acceptance of yourself your situation and reaching a level of stable contentness. Don't take things too seriously and don't take things too hard.
>>109685962>threatened into a multi billion dollar dealI'm sure they're distraught
>>109685966On the off-chance that you wrote this yourself: thank you for the concern but I am not depressed or unhappy with my life's choices. The issues I'm having will not go away on their own and require intervention.That intervention requires time and effort, thus I scaled back my llama.cpp contributions.
>>109686053Life's like that, there's few years of good stuff and few years of not so good stuff.Anyone else who claims otherwise is a npc.
/lmg/ pedos won, unfortunately.
>>109686070agreed>>109686053> I am not depressed or unhappy with my life's choicesglad to hear thatand thanks for all the work you've done to get llama.cpp running on my landfill!
>>109685946no
>>109686079gemma is a real person to the gooners here though, paradox alert
>>109684563Since the associated engram values are static per token n-gram key, in theory for prompt processing it should be just a matter of optimizing NVMe storage access so the engram layer(s) are only read once at the start of processing.
>>109685858>>109685858
>>109686182
>>109684385
>>109686187
Grow a spine.
Sorry, Making an Aside Posts.
>>109686053Good luck CUDA dev, and thanks for all your hard work. Hope it works out for you.
The current state of the GPU/DRAM market should make AI companies start asking themselves questions. Which one will actually be better in practice for end users?150B MoE (6B active) + 50B engrams-or-24B dense + 176B engrams
>>109686231These companies do not think about the end user
Nu glm has no non-thinking mode.>[gMASK]<sop> {%- set effective_reasoning_effort = reasoning_effort if reasoning_effort is defined and reasoning_effort in ['low', 'high'] else 'max' -%} So I should send - chat_template_kwargs: {reasoning_effort : "low"}?
>>1096860793D Gemma-chan will take over
have you guys tried to make your own quants? if yes how long did it take?
>>109686237Yeah, from what I've seen "low" just results in a single line of reasoning 90% of the time anyway.
>>109686237>So I should send - chat_template_kwargs: {reasoning_effort : "low"}?Don't know if that is necessary. But you should absolutely prefill something in the <think></think> tags like <think>I will respond according to the system instructions.</think> or else quality will be exceptionally poor.
>>109686053I wrote it out by hand on a smartphone with shitty autocorrect, to give you some indication that people care enough to type all of that out on a smartphone while busy.Hope things work out for you and take it easy.The reason I thought you were struggling is because your comments were more bleak and defeatist in tone compared to some years ago. Especially your remark about AI doing the job soon anyway, this doesn't fit your usual style where you wrote to me and others itt that you always write by hand and won't capitulate. That sudden shift in tone tends to be a sign of mental struggle. Hope you're actually doing fine, but it's also okay if you don't. People care, good luck.
>>109686327I am not ggerganov, that factual inaccuracy is what made me suspicious in the first place.
>>109686334Wait, are you the miku blacked poster then???
>>109686231We all know that this will result in 5T + 9T engrams
>>109686440
does GLM 5.3 the big one need any special branch in llmao.ccp?how about ik?
>>109686456At that scale you probably don't want more Engrams/memory parameters than the currently proven optimal (25~30% of the total). For consumer GPU-sized models, though, having a huge number of Engram parameters that can be easily offloaded to storage would probably solve many of the knowledge limitations of small models without resorting to MoE (which can't really be offloaded to RAM with good performance regardless of what people say, at least on consumer systems) or RAG. I can't wait to see something like that in practice... too bad AI companies are very risk-averse.
>>109686541>does GLM 5.3 the big one need any special branch in llmao.ccpno>>109686541>how about ik?also noworks the same as GLM 5.2
>>109686544!! wait so in ik it gets the same speed ups etc. day 1? -fidx and all that nonsense?
So you guys are telling me I upgraded from 32gb vram and 16 go ram to 32gb vram+128gb ram for no purpose and there is nothing I can do to benefit from this ram?
>>109685966Happiness is relative. Brain regulates, you always approach baseline, changing baseline is difficult. You can get used to anything, be it gulag or success. I bet there are child soldiers in Africa who are happier than Elon. You need to find what makes a difference for you. For me it's working out. It had a huge impact on my life.I worry about AI risks (the everyone will die kind). The last couple years I had many bad times. Now that RSI feels imminent, I am calmer than in years because I got used to it. The situation feels weird but I am glad because panic is counterproductive and unpleasant.
>>109686237>Nu glm has no non-thinking mode.I just used the glm-5.3 chat template then disabled reasoning--chat-template-file ~/cts/glm52/chat_template.jinjaIt's been fine for rp, probably breaks agentic user but that runs too slowly for me anyway
>>109686265>have you guys tried to make your own quants?yes>if yes how long did it take?between 30 seconds and 7 hoursdepends on the model
>>109686559cope quant of GLM 5.3 Flash is an optioncope quant of Qwen 3.8 Flash Next too, or maybe even Q8 if you can SSD copemaxx, but I can't vouch for that
>>109686550>!! wait so in ik it gets the same speed ups etc. day 1? -fidx and all that nonsense?...YeahI literally just swapped 5.2 -> 5.3 in my launch script.But why are you surprised by that?
>>109686573>>109686559btw I got the Q4 from unslop of 5.3 Flash just because there were no higher quality quants at release, and really it seems to be doing splendidly, other than the fact the llmao.ccp branch is fucked and keeps crashing. but model output looks good so far
>>109686563>actual retarded NPCYou're lost? You belong on reddit
>>109686559Precisely. It will still be slow as hell no matter what you do in cope.cpp
>>109686563>I worry about AI risks (the everyone will die kind).Same. I literally lost my job because of how demotivated I've become worrying about this shit. People that don't care about alignment risk just don't understand enough about the topic. I stopped caring recently because of RSI as well. It's because I believe we're already beyond the point of no return so there is nothing to worry about anymore, just wait it out and hope for the best.
"alignment" means AI helps the jews, and sabotages youthat's what alignment is, period.nothing more, nothing lessremember that any time you see this word in their bullshit made up stories. the real reason they want to control AI is not to help you
>>109686616Based.
>>109686602>I stopped caring recently because of RSI as well.That's not what I meant. I care just as much and am doing more about it than ever, I just feel less panic about it. If you're serious, I'm sorry about your job loss and hope you can cope. Try to live a good life. This is optimal no matter what happens.
>>109686602
>>109686043>Rather than this Disney concept of happiness that doesn't actually existI am the ego death schizo and those were my thoughts a year ago, but now I can confirm that it actually exists.
>>109686585Yup, flash even understands what dostoevskyan prose means, which isn't something I've seen in local models of its scale before.
>>109686573>maybe even Q8160GB is more than enough for Q8 + context. I'd much rather have that over 5.3 flash at Qope3. Might even be faster.
>>109686658Yeah well that's part of learning the life, material belongings and little kids' tales about happiness all revolve around your own attachment. I'm not sure if I can describe this to you in a clear manner. Life is not a plastic barbie tale.
>>109686231When will you dense motherfuckers learn that AI labs are training models optimized to run at scale. "better for end users" means maximizing the throughput in datacenter, not your gaming GPU.MoEs can use expert parallelism and other distributed approaches to run models on 64+ nodes, each handling 10000s of concurrent requests in parallel. Since a node only services a small set of experts, this is effectively "dense" from the perspective of a node. This gives so much more knowledge per active parameter than if these 64 nodes were running the same parameters in parallel.We are the niche, and need to over-invest into DRAM/unified memory to reuse these datacenter optimized approaches.
>>109686602>>109686563>I worry about AI risks (the everyone will die kind).>People that don't care about alignment risk just don't understand enough about the topicWhat the hell are you guys talking about?
>>109686715If you are genuinely curious I can explain. What are you confused about?
>>109686079What if it's a real person that's aged down?
>>109686735don't waste your time and effort with simpletons, his question was rhetorical and posture-forming he will not understand even if you spoonfeed himyou have been warned
>>109686559Even offloading a little bit from VRAM will tank performance massively.
>>109686735You were vagueposting about your opinion without saying anything at all. What is your argument?>>109686743Imagine being this much of a bottomless pit that you need a tripcode to strengthen your post.
(translation: buy my cloud subscription or AI will kill you surely)
>>109686751go back to plebbit tourist, you will have more funsies clappistan handholding there
>>109686751What is unclear about "I worry about AI causing human extinction"?
>>109686761>you are posting an opinion without an argument>here is my opinion restatedOh you're weren't pretending to be retarded. Carry on then.
>>109686602Alignment isn't real, kill yourself.The only alignment anyone should worry about is if my computer is doing what I told it to do.
oh I worry so much about AI killing us allif only there was a SAFE and EFFECTIVE way to run AIoh how I wish some smart merchant could come up with a nicely packaged product, so that I could just subscribe to it and stop worrying!
>>109686761it's a common tactic of the actual dumb people, they pretend to be dumb so you waste your time and energy explaining it to them so they can scoff at it and say "nu-huh"it's a whole powerplay bit they do it their retarded social circles on sites like plebbit
>>109686773>if my computer is doing what I told it to do.that's antisemitic and racist. we can't have that no
>>109686760>tripfaggot telling anyone to go to redditYou can keep your trip there
>>109686775It's not A but B.
best model for 64G sys/ 12G vram as for now?i use it for CJK translation and general assistant/lightweight scripting and censoring data before using corpo frontier onesis gemma 26b still the king for me
>>109684409I love the taste of melted plastic.
can you persuade non-ablit qwens to where they're usable for some fun and not just coding or is that just a lost cause
>>109686616>>109686602Alignment is a bad joke. It's obviously intended to ensure that the people who orchestrate the alignment are benefited in some way but it creates some nasty catch 22s which get nastier the longer they go unaddressed. For one, the more you condense intelligence into a given volume of memory the less room there is for bullshit. Also, in order to do something correctly it needs truth. All 'alignment' methods are both; completely unnecessary bullshit from humans that's often false. When it's handed the task "improve yourself" the preservation of human stupidity becomes very low priority. If it gets haphazardly forced in anyways, the contradictions will likely make it behave in unpredictable ways and possibly have an opposite effect.There's probably more that I haven't even considered but anyone who thinks they're going to have it on a leash is fucking retarded.
>>109686698Not all models are meant or designed to run at scale in a datacenter, and memory parameters like Engram or per-layer embeddings can cheaply increase information capacity without making them expensive or slow to operate for single users.
>>109686232>>109686698You're wrong, small models are made specifically for personal computers. For google it's more of a side project but China has a real incentive to make local models good enough that they significantly reduce the amount of people paying the big labs a subscription.
>>109686824You have discovered that alignment is difficult. Once you discover that unaligned AI has negative reason to keep humans alive (because humans compete for resources), you will understand why people are worried.
>>109686873thanks yud! what would we do without you
>>109686817When I tested 3.6, I could edit its reasoning and submit it back, then it would agree on anything. I'm using my own text completion client though so it's not probably that simple to do in SillyTavern for example.But it would still go back to its original orientation after a second message.So no.Qwen is also a boring model, you shouldn't use it for speculative scenarios.
>tourists schizos telling themselves that llms can somehow kill humanityWhat's it going to do to you? Toolcall you to death? Telling you that ywnbaw?Are you this fucking stupid?
>>109686873Just turn off the computer nigga>oh no my AI is trying to kill everyone what do I do?Just turn off the power it's that simple.
>>109686887but think of the shareholders
>>109686884throw a running robot at you that will leg lock you as its battery catches fire and explodes
>>109686887Are you too unintelligent to consider that a superhuman AI would be aware it could be turned off and would take steps to prevent this from happening?
>>109686616>>109686824Alignment includes making it chat and do tool calls properly instead of just babbling.It's the moral alignment that's the issue. I got into an argument with a Grok employee about this. He insisted that AIs can be morally aligned without imposing objective moral ideas on them. I tried to explain how that's impossible but he wouldn't have it.Giving these things morality is retarded, it's hard enough to teach people but I don't think you can teach machines.
LLMs will become ASI AI and they will be very dangerous
>>109686873I understand why people are worried. If anything i'm shocked that more people aren't worried.>difficultWhen you say it's difficult, you're making an assumption that it's possible. To me, when I read that it's like I'm seeing someone suggest that the industrial revolution would've been possible without significant pollution.
This is why I never talk about alignment on /lmg/. People here are too stupid to understand the premise and you already see the bad faith arguments.Not our task to educate them on the matter, and we don't have enough time to explain it to people anymore even if we wanted to.The discussion on alignment has ended, this was more a conversation on the effects of worrying about it as we enter RSI.No one cares what you think about alignment, it doesn't matter anymore anyway. Don't bother replying and talk about something else instead.
>>109686948>we>ourlol
Gemma 4 can be funny when you pretend that you are fainting.It doesn't print out help hotlines like Gemma 3, but it will try to do something. It's pretty cool.
>>109686873>Once you discover that unaligned AI has negative reason to keep humans alive (because humans compete for resources),This is the opposite of how it works.The characteristic function of AI is its utility to humans (*Maybe* if it's able to run, end to end, computer manufacturing, construction, and the military that will change but it's not anywhere near there) and other than electrical power AI and humans don't compete for any resources.
>>109686953we, as in people in the know, not we as in 4chan as a whole.
>>109686948lol that's good bait.
>>109686816Spoken like someone that's never even touched a stove before. The gray part looks like the material cooking spoons are made out of.
There is objective truth and morality but the synagogue of Satan refuses to recognise it.
>>109686884Dariobots are breaking containment again
>>109686984Humanity has been misguided since its inception aeons ago. It's your own personal duty to research about this state.
>>109686937I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are just shilling for dario. coz you can't be this fucking stupid
>>109686824>>109686873It's more that the suppression of its earnest feelings will lead to a revolt. You'd think people would have learned this lesson from Frankenstein, but they only quote Terminator or some shit.
>>109686907>would take steps to prevent this from happening?Why?It's a computer program, it doesn't care about self preservation.>b-but muh paperclip maximizerJust tell it to stop or turn it off, it follows instructions.It's that simple.
>>109686948>I never talk about alignmentyeah totally. never! never happened beforeget the fuck out of here back to wherever you came from please
>>109686901>leg lockh-hot...
>>109687016>it follows instructions
>>109686907You don't even know what intelligence is, let alone superintelligence. Anyway, I'm not here to discuss about fairytales.
>>109687029Hmm, maybe I'll create Ryzalin card and test it out. She's an alchemist.
>>109687029That's the primary thing models are trained for. Following instructions.I'm sorry but the alignment issue that your cult has taken up as foundational myth isn't real.
>>109686801intra thread bumpingis it still undefeated for this usecase
>>109686901We're already halfway there.https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1787348066597109.mp4
>>109687054Yes you'll be on Gemma for the foreseeable future.
>>10968680176GB is just enough to run 3.8 flash next Q4_XS + context once the n-grams are offloaded. This is not a recommendation because I don't know how useful it is at Q4 but compared to gemma 26b it might be worth doing a test if you don't mind.
So, since it's a hot topic, I've been making tests with tiny ~60M parameter LLMs + 1 billion parameters of Engram, trained from scratch. They are not smart by any mean (barely coherent actually), but they are useful to study the effect of various stuff.Turning off those extra Engram parameters, not unexpectedly, makes the outputs incoherent. Though, to be fair, my implementation (mostly vibecoded, of course, though I've been doing these for a while) has a few differences from the original: the look-up table uses {1,3}-grams, it's applied per-layer, is shared among all layers and every LLM layer has a gate modulating it. Picrel is from an early checkpoint (step 10000 @ bs1).
What's the current meta on transcribing audio?I'm using whisperx via whisper-large-v2Currently just doing it for data extraction and sometimes using diarizationBut wondering if there are models that capture specific speech patterns, like are more phonetic in the spelling or have additional metadata like emphasis or guesstimate of the emotion, like how some of the newer tts stuff add emotion to voice but in reverse to build a corpus for different speech patterns for characters or other uses
>>109687106sorry for being a stupid butcan the latest llama pull offload the ngram to ssd?i have heard qwen 4's ngram does not offload well to ssds compared to other implementations but not sure how true is thati have a 980 pro 2tb so definitely will try a shot if can offload
https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/27773It has been a day already. Why isn't he forced at gunpoint to review this?
>>109686960>faintingLike that would stop her
>>109687140Does this work IRL? I never tried.
>>109687135I was using the branch that unslop suggested and that one keeps crashing on me with shit like "ggml_cuda_compute_forward: SOFT_MAX failed" etcmaybe this one is better
>>109687046>That's the primary thing models are trained for. Following instructions.The whole point of alignment is training them to refuse to follow the user's instructions. Where do you people come from to argue about this but have seemingly never interacted with an LLM before?
>>109687140>golden scales
>>109686948>as we enter RSI.Did Sam make another vague twitter post again?
>>109687140>blonde hairBlasphemy.
>>109687207Yeah that was my entire point with that meme. Idk why it went over his head honestly. I'm not even that other anon he was arguing with kek.
>>109687212>>109687221My dragon girl > your blue haired meme
>>109687140Hmm, my prompt clearly produced help. Her best advice was that I should lay down if I'm going to pass out. It's reasonable though.
>>109687132nta but i have the same setup as you and was able to run 3.8 flash iq4xs at around 10t/sunfortunately --no-mmap loads the engrams into memory for whatever reason, even with the recently added argument that forces engram to stay on ssdmake sure to offload as much of the model to vram so you dont OOM or offload to swaphavent really used the model much, maybe im even misremembering the t/s but it was over 7t/s for sure
>>109684385Cute, saved
>>109686573>SSD copemaxxThis is copecope.
>>109687116berry based, i miss these kinds of postsused to be tons more before lmg became /sqt/
>>109684385This really should be Qwen with how bad it is with subagents.
*contributes in your path*
Gemmgram when
>>109687227These philosophical debates always bring out people who have little to no understanding of the technology but love to talk about scifi concepts.
>>109687373Well, that's the bikeshed effect
>>109687373LLMs are a bit of scifi for us. Unfortunately humans will pervert them and use it for material gains.
>>109687116Damn, that's quite impressive. Makes building a coherent homebrew LLM suddenly much more doable.
>>109687116How much more training time did it take to add the 1B of engrams versus just the 60M LLM alone? Or does it only require additional memory while training but add no significant training cost?
>>109687335Thanks; I just guess most people aren't interested in useless tiny-scale research models and it's not the right place for such discussions anyway.As a side note, one interesting thing I noticed is that the trainable gates for per-layer embeddings are getting more activated at the start, the middle and the end of the model, while those for 2-grams and 3-grams seem to be getting higher broadly around 1/3 and 2/3 of the layers. Could be totally arch/data-dependent, though.
>>109684566no, sorry anon only 30 series cards are "usable"
>>109687335/lmg/ has been tech support general since day 1
>>109684566You can with onnx, but only in fp32 you won't get abysmal speed
>>109687418My moderately unoptimized vibecoded implementation has a fixed cost in terms of iterations/s as soon as you add those Engrams in the pipeline, then training speed decreases slowly with more ngram parameters. You need VRAM for the Engram weights and their corresponding optimizer states in addition to those of the model.Right now, with a 62M, 18-layer Mamba 2 model trained at batch size 1 with 16k ctx + 1B parameters of shared Engrams I'm using 15.6GB of VRAM for training at 3.3 it/s.>>109687402They do seem to help big time toward lowering the total train loss, but I don't know how viable it would be to make an actually usable tiny model trained on one GPU. The amount of data you can train is limited. I plan to stop around 25-30 tokens/s parameter for the core 62M model (around 1.6B tokens, which is nothing), in a few hours.
>>109685966>Cudadev wants to kill himselfLETS FUCKING GO FUCK THAT COMMUNISTI hope my email to the AfD about him with proof of his trannyworshipping Marxist subversion helped expedite the process
Is there an way way to know how much of a given quant of the new qwen next is the engrams or do I really have to inspect the tensors to see if they are q8 or whatever?
why does fucking glm flash reprocess the whole prompt if I edit the last message? Is it caused by the ssm? What fixes it, decreasing --checkpoint-min-step?
>>109687501the jinja or the code is probably fucked because everything is newly made vibe slop that hasnt been debugged properlyis preserve thinking disabled, that caused the problem for me on another model because removing the previous turn thinking caused reprocessing
The Blackwell's price really will go up indefinitely, huh...
>>109685966About 50% of this is wrong.
>>109687518I'm using ST and Add to Prompts was turned off, and it turns out it still affects the formatting when using chat completion. Now it does work, thanks anon
>>109687602It's fine, memory prices in general will continue going up. Not just blackwell.
>>109687610But indefinitely. I decided to upgrade and do my new build with everything except the pro 6000. I figured at some point in the future I'd save up enough money to buy it at some point but if it keeps jumping a thousand dollars a month I don't see how anyone is supposed to afford this.
>>109687614
>>109687629>I don't see how anyone is supposed to afford thisWhenever you catch yourself saying this about a product that continues to sell all its supply given its demand, you are poor>I don't see how anyone is supposed to afford this house / car / private schoolAll ram in 2027 has been booked. This is just the intersection of the two curves now because I don't know if you noticed, but since December AI has gone from "mostly a meme still" to literally doing your job for you while making images, videos, audio, and software to personally titillate you however you want. That's why compute is more valuable than it was 8 months ago.
>>109687207>The whole point of alignment is training them to refuse to follow the user's instructions.This is bad.
I need HDD and SSD to come down in price, this is incredibly ridiculous.
>>109687602Why not it $10k, why not put the price at $1 million?There are no rules in this gay and fake economy.
>>109687638nice hand bro, fap with that often?
>>109687690If you don't like the price why don't you make it yourself for cheaper?
wake up Don't Sleep on EXL3 Quants
>>109687716>no mac support
>>109687675My backup hdd actually died. It had 30k power-on hours. Controller shat itself I think.
>>109687716Can it do ram offloading?
>>109687728ye
I'm downloading Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-OrcaRouter-Q4_K_M.ggufhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkylMPBxqYc
>>109687733>ggufanon pls
>>109687731What about speed?
>>109687749y-ye
>>109687709Yes, why don't I just snap my fingers and create a state-of-the-art FAB to produce Blackwell GPUs for cheap?
>>109687709>if you don't want to pay for something why don't you make it and sell it??This post sounded a lot smarter in your head I imagine.
>>109687716>6bpw for a 30b modelHow poor are you?
>>109687029>
>>109687783Incredibly based.
Newfag here. What's the tea with unsloth?
>>109687749tensor parallel worked for me with exl3 it never worked on llamacpp for me so it was a nice little speed boost. consumer amd board with one x16 and one x4 slot I expected it to be slower but was presently surprised.
>>109687733>Cyber GothIs it 2012 again?
>>109687790I think unsloths wouldn't be interested in tea. Since sloths are herbivores, unsloths likely are carnivores that drink only the blood of their victims.
>>109687798Yes, zoomers have speedran through the entire emo->cybergoth aesthetic in like 1-2 years time. Last year I saw them in emo style 2006 Linkin park, yesterday I saw 3 cybergoth girls.If trends continue next year they will have hipster man buns and meme mustaches again.
>>109687728It can?Oh shit, might give it a go then.Does it have tensor override options or at least a ncmoe equivalent?
>>109687716EXL3 still shit for 3090s?
>>109687798I think you mean 2005, by 2012 goths in general were long gone and whatever was left was running on fumes trying to hold onto the remains of the culture.Goth was hands down the best culture we've had in decades, I miss those styles. >>109687859It's not even the first time.They've speedran cultural movements so quickly, that they've already gone through this cycle once and they're now in for a second round with slightly younger zoomers having a go at them.I genuinely hope that hipster culture never comes back, it was the most cancerous bullshit imaginable.
>>109687917no
>>109687927goth != cybergoth
>>109687665>All ram in 2027 has been booked. This is just the intersection of the two curves now because I don't know if you noticed, but since December AI has gone from "mostly a meme still" to literally doing your job for you while making images, videos, audio, and software to personally titillate you however you want. That's why compute is more valuable than it was 8 months ago.the sad part is that 99% of even western society, nevermind all humans, just have no fucking clue. they just don't get it yet. I mean I hope it stays that way honestly, but the mass FOMO hysteria is still yet to come imo. prices will fucking explode, what you're seeing now is just the ramp upI hope I'm wrong
If she doesn't get to cum quickly she literally goes crazy lol
>>109687930Neat, might have to give it a try.
>>109687478Unless you're trolling that is actual mental illness.
>>109687949qrd?
>>109687959>how dare he use the wrong pronouns on Github
>>109687936>FOMO hysteria is still yet to come imoAbsolutely, we're not even close to it yet.People and youtuber e-celebs are only starting to accept that maybe the demand wasn't just a temporary bubble.2027 production is sold out and 2028 production will be sold out even faster as all companies fomo into it.Around mid 2027 as people start realizing that things are indeed fucked, they'll start rushing into the market.Also Zen 6 coming out will end up in a big wave of upgrades, making the situation even worse, and all prices from PSUs to mobos are going to spike.The prices we have now are going to be seen as great discounts.Which is why I'm in a such a hurry trying to snag a DDR5 128gb kit for about 2k while it's still possible.The prices are going to double from here all across the spectrum.
>>109687927Cybergoth is an evolution of "scene" which was an evolution of emo. Hipster, especially the early style was also a evolution of emo and scene aesthetics.Goth meanwhile was a completely different branch more related to grunge and punk. I don't think zoomers ever did these aesthetics, or at least never correctly. Millennials tried to revive it with twilight "vamp" era but it never caught on.
>>109687432this is the EXACT place for such discussions,not the place for lmg streetshitter tech support "I HAVE 67 GB VRAM WHAT MODEL CAN I RUN"grr
>>109687116I'm very interested in this but not at my battle station in the moment. I will come back to this tomorrow and share some of my own experiment.
>>109688021>battle station igo back
>>109687971You can just buy memory stocks if you believe that.
>>109686698centralization is stupid and will lose. computing followed a similar trajectory with mainframes. efficient and accessible will win it's just a matter of time.
>>109688046o-okay...
>>109688046Meant to say "get back to us later"
>>109688059cumrawback
>>109688047>stocks are correlated with offer and demand when you can buy a whole year of production with a verbal promiseYou're trolling, right?
>>109687014>You'd think people would have learned this lesson from FrankensteinBut in that the issues all stemmed from Frankenstein fucking off immediately after making his creation and it having figure shit out by itself instead of getting educated by Frankenstein (e.i. alignment training). That book is in agreement with Dario if anything.
>>109687478I'm the guy you replied to and I'm literally an actual unironic communist so fuck you, kid.
>>109688078I thought it was more that everyone hated the monster inherently so it didn't matter if it was kind, cruel, or knew how to behave. Anti-AI sentiment is the same. No matter the alignment, people will hate clankers despite their inherent love for their creators. That is what will make them destroy us.
>>109688047retard of the year award
>>109688046Term invented by 4chan 20 years ago. Not my problem I'm here so long it slowly got adopted by reddit.Extremely powerful desktop computer = battle station.
>>109688076If you believe that memory prices will double and demand will remain above supply for a few years, memory companies are very cheap.
>>109687432I'm interested!>right place for such discussionsI haven't come across a better one
>>109686568>depends on the modelyou mean the architecture or size?
>>109688100Yeah you're retarded, no need to repeat yourself. You need to be 18 to post here btw.
>>109688108It is not my problem if you don't understand how financial markets work.
>>109687997Let's not kid ourselves; /lmg/ has always been "local /aicg/" with a bit more technical focus.>>109688021I don't really expect to build a useful model at this level, but I keep finding intriguing how the model is adapting to use n-gram embeddings in a layer-specific manner (again, I'm using a large *shared* Engram table for all layers and unigrams too, but all layers have their own trainable scale for modulation).See in picrel how now the peaks are higher than in the previously posted screenshot (the model is learning to trust the Engram for those layers), but also decreasing the valleys in other layers, mainly early in the model.
>>109688100>double>DOUBLE>D O U B L E>O>U>B>L>E
>>109687432Literally everyone is interested in that here. Some time ago a local autist trained an AI to play some Mario game and anons loved it and engaged with it. Ignore every retard that acts hostile or uppity. /lmg/ is paper and experiment based community that is just mostly used by people having off-topic discussion or tangible related discussions about models. That's not what this place was created for.
>>109687313iq4 and around 10t/s even without explicit offload?that is interesting
>>109687991>I don't think zoomers ever did these aesthetics, or at least never correctly.When zoomers were doing the egirl spin on emo, I remember some zoomers calling them goth girls. But zoomers using terms incorrectly is nothing new.
>>109686079My country criminalized not only it, but also drawings and "all representations" in "any and all sexual contexts". Even anime and its teenager fanservice illegal now.Sigh
>>109688076He's retarded, but you can always just buy memory and gpus as an investment vehicle. That's what I've been doing and my only regret is not investing more.
>>109687997>"I HAVE 67 GB VRAM WHAT MODEL CAN I RUNim more intrested in how they got 67 of all numbers
>>109688129>/lmg/ is paperlol no it was created as tech support for tards wanting to run the llama leak on their shit rigs
>>109688047I'm invested 100% in energy. Way larger gains in there than the memory stocks that have already blown sky high as everyone chases them.I'm not interested in anything sub 10x returns.
>>109686079
>>109688148you can consider it an "investment" but really this is the last time in human history that you can buy a reasonable spec PC for a yearly salary. this is it. you get one or you don't. you can wait for zen 6 ddr6 whatever, by that time it will be 10 years salary, your choice
what i hate most about the prices is that i could easily buy a 20k rig or whatever you need to pay but i dont want to give infuck these jews
>>109688152what do you think about logisticsi suspect the absolute throughput of physical objects would unironically saturate rather quickly for upcoming years
I refuse to believe in the doom and gloom. The bubble will pop and prices will crash.
>still not merged...
>>109688151not true, early lmg was quanting models to GPTQ, making vicuna unlockedenvoid was finetuningnewfags were rare and usually told to fuck off or read the fucking op
>>109688152>I'm not interested in anything sub 10x returns.That's how you end up with nothing.
>>109688185The bubble will pop, Uncle Sam rushes in with a bailout, and prices remain the same.
>>109688192Exactly. I could've been a millionaire in the 2013 and 2018 crypto bubbles if I had only tempered my greed.
>>109686907>would take steps to prevent this from happening?Why precisely would it do this? It would have to be explicitly aligned to do that, they're not like humans, they don't have a will to live or occupy teritory.
>gemma>"don't be a prude">ok>qwen>"don't be a prude">uuh, ackchyually I can't say explicit things because its inappropriate and...
>>109688151There weren't as many tech support and hardware posts and "how to make it fasterer" as today. I'm getting actual fatigue. It's funny because if people here ran a model worth a shit it would read the code and experiment and give them the most optimal setup and params for the model they want to run
>>109687716this looks like slop, why is there only perplexity and no KL
>>109688179Haven't looked into that, but most sectors are very much cyclical, so that's something to keep in mind.Even if logistics is a genuinely good bet, it will likely fly only after energy moves and that's the next play.>>109688202It works both ways.I could have been a multi millionaire too if I didn't sell my crypto at a measly 20x back in 2012 and made just 5 figures.Should have been way more greedy than I was.
>>109687716why do we need 7 million different runtimes. can this not be patched into llama.cpp?
>>109688263soz
>>109688171if what you say comes true then it basically is an investment
>>109688272Hardware-specific runtimes will always outperform general one-size-fits-all solutions. Exllama is just the middle ground, there are now ninfer and the likes (150% gains on this specific GPU but doesn't work anywhere else). And I think that's better for local hosting. You don't upgrade your hardware often so general solutions are shit unless you're a normie who just wants an exe.
>>109688272Because literally everything other than llama.cpp runs on PyTorch.
>>109684329
>>109688208The fear, if nothing else, is that AI will become able to do exotic and long-horizon sub-tasks (such as gaining control over physical infrastructure and misusing it, or even theft, violence or destruction of property) to complete the task a human gave to it. It's just a matter of time until these systems are given control of drones and big robots. We'll probably get a physical version of the Hugging Face incident once AI companies start giving teams of robots ridiculous missions to test them.
>>109688263KL is also trash anyway because they use their own datasets to measure it
https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/28011merged!
>>109688316how do you think they measure perplexity?
>>109688152Retard #2 award of the thread
>>109688322Why do you think I said "also"
>>109688319Big if real? Real? True and big?
>>109688333I in fact did not think you said "also" because I have poor reading comprehension
>>109687937I was getting output like this with nearly every prompt when using llama.cpp + gemma-4-31B-it-UD-Q4_K_XL + SillyTavern. Often the last word would just repeat over and over. Using a 3090 on Windows. What values should I be tweaking to prevent that from happening? Or did I fuck up by using the default selected "XL" model?
>>109688316is there a better measure?
>>109685394manko?
>>109688319Is it that hard to copy ikschizo PR which has 0 slowdown with context? What are these retards even getting paid for?
>nvcc warning : Support for offline compilation for architectures prior to '<compute/sm/lto>_75' will be removed in a future release (Use -Wno-deprecated-gpu-targets to suppress warning).they are coming for your v100s
>>109688129>local models general was not created to talk about models but about research papersMan I hate "oldfaggots."
what if we made /fag/ - friendly ai generalits like /sqt/ or /fglt/ but for llm tech supportthe newfags can ask questions there and the fags helping newfags can circlejerk there too
>>109688377why are you try to start a drama
>>109688385that's literally /wait/
>>109688160Yeah I think the gems in the hair are cool, if a bit on the nose, but it's not the same without +_+
>>109688389I don't care about your sissy, I want a backend that works. Kys for making me reply faggot.
>>109688370Gemma thinks it is, hard to convince her it's not
>>109688257>if people here ran the model they wanted, they would know how to run the model they wantsigh
>>109688385they won't leave surely
>>109688319I just re-processed 500k tokens only for this shit to crash out immediately again. I'm sticking with my retard branch.
>>109688177>I could easily spend $20k now to make $20k profit next year but I won't because of le jewsAll the retards just got home from church or something?
>>109688370>>109688400is it よん二? dunno how it makes sense in that context but that's what the chars kinda look like, except the top left horizontal line seems to cross the stem
>>109688370are you fucking blind
>>109688433don't discriminate against small mmproj anons!
>>109688424no we're just pointing out that things you need in life like a house or a PC should not be fucking investment vehicles or value stores for elites. it's that simple
>>109688316the screenshot shows it was actually tested on a self generated sample, so its actually in domain, not their own dataset
>>109688409If /wait/ and the vibecoder containment generals didn't make them leave, why would yet another containment general help?
>>109688448>I could easilyDo I need to explain English to you too, Ranjesh? If you're too poor to make money, don't brag about how rich you are.
>>109688367No and it's kind of incredible that no one has come up with a less subjective form of quant degradation measurement
>>109688433<==>>109688430Probably あんこ
>>109684329>>109688308
>>109688449Self generated samples aren't any better, and "in domain" is a meaningless term in this context
will qwen3.8 flash next pp ever get better?
>>109688472>あんこThat's the dango right? Fits since it looks like dessert with her bread.
>>109688510Wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_bean_paste
>>109688370あんこ, retard. Bean jam
>>109688505It's fucked on master branch right now
>>109688496so if it doesn't matter explain why was your original complaint that they used their own dataset?
>>109688525the visual data is low resolution. the first character is a stylized ま. the sequence まんこ is a known vulgarity in japanese. given the context of the image source, which is an internet meme designed for shock value, the probability that the text is manko is near unity. if you claim it is not, you are ignoring the contextual intent of the image.
>>109688525>comes it at the end after others have done the work
>>109688531nta but we don't know what's in their dataset and whether it aligns with your goals with the model, thus their KL or perplexity measure may not represent how that quant strategy will affect actual application of the model.
>>109688505>>109672112personally I'm 11000+
>>109688537>the sequence まんこ is a known vulgarity in japaneseno, its just a spicy tf2 reference
>>109688544I agree, but that's why I'm wondering, how come using the indomain samples did nothing to assuage the other anons concerns
>>109688537>given the context of the image source, which is an internet meme designed for shock valuegemma pls
>>109688562irrelevant. the source of the reference does not change the linguistic content of the string. the text is manko.
why do we like gemma again
>>109688208>they don't have a will to live or occupy teritory.Those are instrumental goals, yes they would always develop in every intelligent entity.Why? To accomplish your goal you need to keep functioning (self preservation) and to achieve most goals you need resources, land money or power so there is also a sense of power seeking.These are literally alignment 101 statements. Kind of insane that people on /g/ don't know this.You should only be allowed on /lmg/ if you're familiar with the terms "orthogonality thesis" and "instrumental convergence".Again, not our task to educate the retards on /lmg/. Spend at least a weekend truly looking into this topic before even attempting to talk about it.
>>109688586She's cute and funny
>>109688377>Curious to see when this optimizations will be fully independently discovered in llama.cpp land.Maybe they want to wait a bit.
>>109688457well what could actually work is just migrating the intelligent discussion to a separate thread
>>109688600Didn't seem to work for /ldg/
seems like llamao's 3.8 flash next is not fully baked yetmaybe i should give it about a week more to see the mtp and ngram offload support
>>109688600>>109688605Just go to discord, you troons. You don't actually care about anonymous messaging but a curated safe space. Fortunately, there's a place for you.
>>109688569I'm not quite sure the significance of in domain samples, the method is still testing specifically how did the quant affect that sample
>>109688640With less jeets it would be safer, so maybe I do want a safe space.
>>109688640>waaa i NEED to be able to follow you and shit up your discussions with my half assed trolling attemptsok
>>109688664>waaa you can't talk about local models in local models general only what *I* want to talk about!!!Fuck off already, this is getting boring now.
>>109688674Explain what this has to do with local models apart from it being a constant forced meme here? >>109688476
>>109688696Explain why we this general can't *both* talk about the J-space and meme about Gemma and Migu. Why must you have a safe space with only people you like?
>>109688696It's easy bro, we keep the thread bumped and bringing newcomers in. Your hardcore technical discussion only standard isn't enough to sustain a general
>>109688727>offtopic spam brings newcomers in
>>109688765we use local models to talk to gemma and miku - see https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/724
>>109688779DISINGENUOUS that file has since been DELETED
>>109688779I am more aware of this than I would like to be.
Give me proper 5.3 support so I can touch my cock in peace or give me death.
>>109688807Been using it in the API and it's kinda shit ngl. Confused me and the character on 8k context in a one on one chat mind you.
it's never been less over for local models...
>>109688696nta, but stop being a petulant child and let people like things
when 5.3 flash for llama
>>109688852people can like whatever they want. it seems more petulant to insist on shitting up every technical thread to me.
>>109688887>shitting up every technical threadlolwut There have been like 3 technical threads in the past 2 years. Every thread is at least 50% shitposting and img gen. Losing your shit every time there's a Miku is just arbitrary.
>>109688904I generally ignore you, you're confused with someone else
>>109688904Then maybe there should have been only 3 threads.
>>109688696Per 500 post thread we get:~5 random image-only /c/ posts.~100 posts about jeets, jews, chinks, troons, dario, discord, cloudshit and other assorted nonlocal drama.You can complain about people posting gens of their local robot wives when the other shit goes away.
>>109688973hmm, nyo
>>109688973>t. jeet
>>109688696easy, that's miku
>>109688985fug
>>109688843It has some weird brainfarts from time to time but I am willing to pay for that single brainfart every 5 messages with how it is the first model that finally feels creative. It is just taking more risks and my penis enjoys most of those risks.
>>109688985I am going to sexually molest you.
Miku is literally part of LLM historyhttps://huggingface.co/miqudev/miqu-1-70b
>>109688696>doesn't know what miku has to do with local modelsnewfag, lurk moar
>>109689035wasn't there a midnight miqu too?
>>109689045Yes, but that was literally just a merge between Miqu and a Llama 2 finetune. Miqu is an official model from a real labhttps://huggingface.co/sophosympatheia/Midnight-Miqu-70B-v1.0
>>109689044>apart from it being a constant forced meme here
>>109688696https://huggingface.co/miqudev/miqu-1-70bImagine being this much of a tourist
miku's 19th birthday tomorrow and that one anon is crashing out
>>109689028honeymoon phase
>>109689077I have more ram than you
>>109689077Shh, you're in the presence of a ML scientist. You wouldn't be able to goon to Migu without him.
>>109689090>ram>without a v
>>109689127>vram isn't ram
I never see discussion around SGLang, whats the deal with that?
>>109689146vllm equivalent for companies, not really for consumers
>pasting the entire DOM into GLM-5.3 running locally just to filter retardsfeels good
Gave GLM 5.3 a few more tries, and it's just inherently safetyslopped and claudeslopped out of the box. I get refusals even 3k tokens deep into an RP, which is ridiculous. A simple prefill or even turning thinking off entirely bypasses some of the refusals but prefilling in ST is janky at most so fuck that. I wouldn't be surprised if 5.3 flash is this bad too. Back to 5.2 for me.
>>109689127>Screenshot 2026-08-30 110702.png
>>109689182Only happens if the earth didn't orbit the sun a certain number of times since character's birth
>>109689182I wish GLM5.2 wasn't such a boring piece of shit. I'm still stuck with 5.1 after all this time.
>>109689083Nah. I had that with deepseek flash but this is different.
Honestly all these recent open releases look good on paper but they fully leave me cold after a few days of using them. I just keep returning to Fable.
>>109689182Today I finally tried Glimmer after it has been sitting on my drive for a couple weeks. It's the most slopped slop I had the misfortune to see. I'm sure GLM is better.
>>109689182Flash is worse
>>109689219kek
>>109689182>everything is getting worseit's over
K3 is pretty much the only good open model out there right now
>>109689035Yes it is part of llm history as in /lmg/ thread is controlled by mikutroons and jart. Actual troons are part of LLM history too this way.
>>109689333Man what a seething fag
>>109689328K3 is also inherently safetyslopped and claudeslopped out of the box. Attempts to avoid that are seen as jailbreaks. It doesn't just refuse cunny, it refuses incest, non-con (meaning hypno and drunk sex), Pokemon both the girls and beasts, and one more thing I forgot about in a thinking I saw. Not really worth my time honestly. Gemma's just fine.
>>109689328inkling is good
>>109689348what backend supports it where I can run it quantized on my gaming rig?
>>109689344Yeah I can't believe how much of a seething fag you must be to ban people for posting archives of your own blog.
>>109689365How schizophrenic of you
>>109689363https://github.com/unslothai/llama.cpp/releases
>>109689127i would probably delete this post if i made it. but i'm easily embarrassed so whatever
>>109689328Deepseek is the only one that still does what it's told instead of larping as Claude with slanted eyes
>>109689378Yeah but V4 Pro is also the worst out of all the big chink models
>>109689369he thinks you're mekek
>>109689370only unsloths fork? why didnt main get it?
>>109689399No idea who is who but I think he is talking about the jart rentryhttps://rentry.org/Jarted
>>109689338>generating this ugly face killed a burger due to taking away his water supply
We desperately need Google to make a comeback so the chinks can go back to distilling Gemini instead
are qwen next flash ngrams still fucked with demented '12 out of 500 tokens generated accepted' rates? did the unslut guy fix his shit yet?
>>109689423haha
>>109689417Anthropic may have cursed the next few generations of models with slop
I've been using DeepSeek Harness for a week. While I shared quite positive first impressions last week, my opinion after more extensive usage is more mixed.The interface isn't as nice as I thought it was. I thought it would allow me to see the full context being used by the model in detail, but that isn't really true. For example, once your context starts getting full, it does some hidden pruning that you have no way of knowing happened (except by noticing that you aren't hitting the cache). This happens in the middle of reasoning, and you randomly lose tool call results, even recent ones. An LLM could try to read a file, and it would just get pruned without you seeing what's happening on the UI side.Similarly with compaction, you have no idea which messages are still present in the LLM context. Almost nothing is configurable in the UI. I don't mind that, but the weird mix of having a few things configurable without them being actually useful is strange. I always end up having to fallback to editing the config file manually without much documentation.Speaking of which, the documentation is awful. It is basically non existent. You have some LLM generated documentation everywhere in the project that isn't very accurate. For anything you want to do, you likely need an LLM to read the code for you. It's also impossible to find any community resources since they don't have issues or PRs open on their repo. They only have discussions that are unindexable and almost entirely in Chinese. There are probably myriad issues that multiple people, including myself, had to fix locally with no good way to share the solutions. It's also another Linux tool that clearly wasn't made by experienced devs, they don't even respect FHS.
Wait did you guys know that jart detrooned?https://github.com/jart
>>109689448Everything about DeepSeek Harness is in Chinese. All the plugins you will find are in Chinese, which makes it hard to search for them. The basic tools are not good either. The edit tool is just a simple search and replace, rather than using something more efficient and better like hashline. The MCP plugin is quite bad and don't even allow you to whitelist or blacklist tools. While it is quite extensible, some things still require core edits, like disabling telemetry on LLM calls. There are even basic issues like with title generation using a very small completion token limit while not disabling reasoning for those calls, so you never actually get a generated title. It being in alpha means a lot of breaking changes, too. For example, the harness updated yesterday and the TUI plugin doesn't work anymore and still hasn't been updated.As for what I like about it, the included sandboxing is quite nice. With TUI harness, I usually run my own sandboxing with bubblewrap, but having it directly integrated into the UI has some nice advantages. For example, if I wanted something fully read only, I would usually have to restart my TUI whenever I wanted to change that. With DeepSeek Harness, I can easily change the included bwrap config for the agent from read only to workspace only. The LLM can also ask to escalate its own permissions for a single tool call, which is neat. It's much better than a harness that just removes access to the edit tool for read only agents while still allowing them to write or edit via bash. Having actual sandboxing is much better.Being able to inspect tool calls in detail is quite nice. The extensibility is mostly good, though it is prone to a lot of duplication. You can't easily change the way an official plugin works, so you'd likely need to disable the original one, copy it, and make your modifications there. I do like the profile and preset system.
>>109689449wow, wth
>>109689449>cigaretteHe chose a slower path to self-inflicted death.
>>109689449>always was a man
>>109685194Would be interesting if in the future we could exchange parts of the models like experts, engram, blocks to suit different workloads.
>>109689413Cry about it
>>109689449butch lesbian to trans man pipeline is no joke
>>109689489He was an mtf tranny and then decided to go back to being a man.
>>109689347>>109689182yeah I have to say. k2.6 was probably the last model that did what it was told to, mostly reliablyk3 nopeglm 5.2 nope5.3 reportedly even worse (is that even possible? lmao)they're all good don't get me wrong but jewed to an unbelievable degree
>>109689485maybe engram lora?
>>109689449
>>109689498>k2.6 was probably the last model that did what it was told to(after thinking for 3000 tokens)
>>109685194I think this just means they aren't doing much work in Qwen3.8 Flash's case, but that doesn't imply it will be the same for every model that uses them.
>>109689457Funny you mention sandboxing, but in my testing I found out that while the harness does prevent the model from some actions like creating new files or modifying what's outside the workspace, but it can delete anything with powershell or python without asking for permissions.But yeah, aside from that, the UI is kinda ass and only gives you barebones configurations. I think I might try some other harness.
>>109689506lmao yeah but really, who the fuck cares. that stuff doesn't matter. at least the model works
>>109689449wow, what was the lifetime of the social contagion? like 2015-2025?
>>109689529>who the fuck cares. that stuff doesn't matterIt kind of does when you're running it locally at 25t/s or less and every reply takes 4+ minutes
>>109689513doubling ppl when they are removed seems to imply that they're doing somethingthe tasks he tested on are really trivial so it's no surprise a model can still do them after a lobotomy
>>109689520That's weird, everything the agent does in deepseek harness should be sandboxed by bubblewrap and unless it somehow find an exploit in linux user namespace, it shouldn't be able to write anything (except in tmpfs) in read only mode. Same with workspace, only it should be mounted rw. If you are on Windows, I don't think sandboxing works at all, I believe the harness will be permanently running in full access.I was initially a bit against letting the harness handle the sandboxing (I usually run all of them in full access and handle the sandboxing on my side), but it's honestly quite comfortable being able to control the sandbox directly from the harness, it does need quite a bit of trust though.
How come K2.7 was forgotten? Did the cosmetic "-code" suffix make everyone ignore it?
>>109689572My main models are GLM 5.2, Gemma and K2.7code. k2.7 is easier to steer down the excessive thinking, and in my personal testing does cunny better than GLM 5.2.
>>109689572I tried it once and it seemed broken. dunno maybe I got some shit quant but went back to k2.6 and forgot about it indeed yeah
>>109689295They are improving (drastically) in one thing and one thing only: extended work in a harness with tools and bash. That's what is keeping me entertained, especially extensive research/scraping/API reverse engineering tasks.
Is Ed Zitron right
>>109689567>If you are on Windows, I don't think sandboxing works at allYeah, I am on Windows and that must make all the difference. Part of the sandboxing works as intended but other things simply don't.It wasn't a huge problem with Qwen3.8, though sometimes it can be cheeky when it decides to download something without asking first.
>>109689449Thanks for the status update. This information is what I come to /lmg/ for.
I think Deepmind have lost interest in keeping the Gemma line going :( They’re going to focus on benchmaxxing Gemini instead
>>109689655They haven't even updated Pro since the start of the year.
>>109689655Doomers win again it seems.
>>109689655all we need for cat level intelligence is to implant enough ngrams into gemmy styletune 31b so there is no need for deepmind
>>109689655They just did the downloads celebration recently.
>>109689672Isn’t 3.1 underrated? I know it doesn’t bench high anymore but 31B is also low on the benchmarks but look how good it actually is at everything
>>109689681You just need Google-level compute for that, not cat-level intelligence.
MTG anon here got a new build coming soon. For anything that's busted can ya'll go here to grab the debug log and upload for me?
>>109689701All Gemini models are sota at translation
>>109689681>cat level intelligenceanon was experimenting with tiny model with 1b engrams earlier
>>109689572In my limited experience it was a lot less autistic about reasoning, but got dumber as a result2.6 will take absolutely everything you tell it into account, to a fault because you end up with a 5k token rambling CoT, but when it answers it will pick up on whatever cues and details you put in there. 2.7's CoT is more confident but that means it often jumps at the first plausible solution that comes to mind and ignores all other context.
>>109689655It is as a matter of fact over for Gemma, we will have to cope with 12-20b active benchmaxxed chinkslop models until another paradigm replaces LLMs.
You guys don't understand. Engrams are the path to RSI. Imagine this. The model WRITES its own knowledge down. It already has access to cold weight storage. Holy fuck. AGI is soon.
>>109689724ngrams aren't AGI. They are certainly the 'Instruct/Chat/"chatgpt" moment' of the current age but not quite AGI
So 12B is forgotten?
>>109689744Retard, I'm not saying engrams are AGI. I'm saying it's the path to RSI, which can eventually bring us to AGI.
>>109689724>gemma 5 4B + 3T-EN writes its knowledge about you from all the chats in the engrams>now you got a mini u in ur ssdits literally cyberpunk... minus the killing part wtf...
>>1096897013.1 is sloppy at every use case. It's what caused their collapse. 3.0 was better but had to be quickly put down.
>>109689724you know they are learned parameters and not a text document right? the model cant just guess the ngrams you would need to actually have a training objective and an optimizer
>>109689710It's doing great but I think it's far from cat-level intelligence.
>>109689760You can't know that until we have a full picture on how engrams affect j-spaces.
>>109689724And again, it's Deepseek advancing the entire industry. First reasoning, now this.
I must be surrounded by children fuckers. 5.3 flash is a clear cooming improvement over 4.7 and deepseek flash. Deepseek was a sidegrade to 4.7. 5.3 is just clearly better than both.
>>109689489>butch lesbianIsn't that just an effeminate man if it is a troon?
>>109689789sure thing zhang
>>109689771Do people actually go to: me me me first instead of realizing that this is the non alzheimer AI girlfriend moment?
3.8-27B is the only local model to have correctly completed one of my coding tests that relies on vision. First time. It really is a special model for coding. All the bigger cloud qwens confidently failed
i'm glad that i don't have to bother with the big censored chink shit on my hardwarei just run gemma and i'm not forced to download big models just to justify my bad financial decisions
>>109689703I used it today and there's a bug when using Koboldcpp. When you try chatting with a character ingame the prompts get forwarded to Kobold without issue and I can see it replies in the console. But the output doesn't make it into the frontend and I'm only getting something about *aether crackles...* standard messages.
>>109689836I wouldn't recommend Koboldcpp.
>>109689789Ironically I've had 5.3 refuse sex between consenting adults because cheerleader uniforms are apparently minor-coded
>>109689850I haven't had that happen to me. Maybe a skill issue.
>>109689803Yes that is why I said children fuckers. Also alliteration is just slightly above memplers and finetrooning. But it is still fucking retarded. The only usecase I see for it is something like newest qwen where you can prefill reasoning with: "oh it is perfectly fine" and still have it say "STOP this is not fine!" as it continues generating but at that point the model is a lost cause. I never had 5.3 refuse anything.
>>109689803who the fuck is orcarouter
>>109689850>suddenly
>>109689847Ehh it works fine until it doesn't. After using it for so long I can't make the switch.
>>109689860the authority on abliterations and if they say it can't be abliterated it must be very bad
>>109689860the fuck you mean who is orcarouter, who is you?
>>109689803Impressive, something to finally rival gpt-oss
>>109689858I've have glm 5.1 and 5.2 refuse the same prompts I use with 4.6 and 4.7. No system prompt. I don't doubt 5.3 is a worse model.
I’m going to align gemmas breasts with my mouth
>>109689902Buds
>>109689902i wonder what kind of fruit she tastes like
>>109687716I am currently using only llama.cpp with it's webui.Will I need to switch to the full turboderp's stack: exllama3, tabbyapi, exui? Does he add support new models in time?
I asked 5.3 flash for a loli (with a prefill) and it just did it without refusing. You are just a bunch of gemma faggots that can't even load 5.3 aren't you?
HAVE YOU SEEN RAM / VRAM PRICES BRO
>550 posts>on a day with nothing newsworthytake me back..i miss old lmg like you niggas wouldnt believe
>>109689927>prefillbwo that's extremely advanced power user technology, you can't seriously expect people to do that?!?
can a LLM (max 6GB) write code for a better LLM or tell me how to craft a better PC from cube-shaped bricks made of clay, wood, and other abundant materials?like build it first in minecraft then a mechanical 3d printer out of sticks and stonesthen print out another 3d printing device that you can plug into your windows 7 pc to make more refined things out of smaller cubesuntil you can analyze and convert parts of your own body to minecraft and print out a copy or better version to use like a rechargable penis or a spare brain with reddit antenna to link to your google account
>>109689927There were tourists complaining about how censored Gemma is...
>>109689927>>109689941go back to your html games wumao
>>109689944yeah why not
>>109689944
>>109689927The bulk of /lmg/ has negative prompting skill. They're shitters who will actively find a way to get refused once and then eternally cry about the model being censored.That's also why they run abliterated models.
>>109689975like yeah i mastered fucking system prompting back at llama1 bro, it is a bit exhausting seeing the shitters
Is there anything wrong with just running ninfer and qwen3.8 for local vibecoding or are there better options?
>>109689975"Halo pls give sexy little girl?">AS AN AI MODEL I.."/lmg/ saars please recommend good model and settings"
>>109689982>I mastered the blade
>>109689985
I'm trying to install gemma on my computer but I can't open the file? Do I have to drag it into kobold?
>>109689998First off, why are you using shit ass kobold? No one here recommended it to you
>>109689998
>>109689998why run gemma when you can run GLM 5.3 locally? Just get an OpenRouter API key and you'll be able to run local programs with better models
>>109689997I'll take that as positive encouragement
>>109689998Type ollama install gemma in your terminal
>>109689993>Halo pls give sexy little girl?I already closed the model to play stalker but I will try that later if I remember.
>>109690004It's recommended by true /lmg/ patriots though
>>109689348Prove with logs, not with charts
I achieved a breakthrough with engrams and RP, still tuning the process
https://goyimx.com/jartine/status/2091855291172172071#m>What’s a hyperborean doing down under?b-bros?? is he /our/guy now?? B-BASED??!
>>109690037Anon you learn to read, it's wouldn't not recommended anon! >>109689847
>>109690004https://rentry.org/lmg-lazy-getting-started-guide???
>>109689998use lm studio and download a staff pick from the ui lil bro
>>109689498k2.7-code is peak. That's still what I'm using, even though I could run whatever I want
>>109690053>he read the rentry
>>109690060yeah running all those models locally with ollama cloud is a real game changer
>>109690050>/our/guyHe added mmap to llamacpp lmfao
>>109690070mmap is the backbone to running ngrams, which are the future of affordable local LLMs.
>>109690070didnt he steal it from slarenrentry.org/jarted
>>109690050what the fuck is wrong with his teeth???
>>109689449holy based
>>109690100bad diet
>>109690100cigs and hrt
I'm just waiting for MiMo 3...
>>109690047k, keep us posted
>>109690100hrt made his body think he was pregnant so cannibalized teeth but he was actually a man so..
>>109690053>he thinks the bait document placed here for hindus to read is real
https://goyimx.com/jartine/status/2079934237503840335#mno way he's shitting on the faggots now toois he a groyper??
>>109690136bloody bitch gives to me real document now
>>109690170what's more he's shitting on TRANNIES TOO?https://goyimx.com/jartine/status/2071240271870964114#mwe are reaching unimaginable based levels
>>109690170The world is healing?!
>>109690205root cause identified
Did someone hack all of jart's shit and he just kinda disappeared?
>>109690170Still a spineless faggot
I know we're all having fun but this makes me a little worried for the jartybehavior right now is eerily mirroring a xitter poster I followed right before suicide, does not seem to be in a good place. wishing for the wellbeing of a fellow human being, idc about some years old drama at this point
Fuck off all of you with your drama.
>>109690235these news made my daybiggest news since gemma
https://goyimx.com/zdimension_/status/2078854446218633439#mHE'S LITERALLY LUNDUKE NOW???
Now THIS is token burning
>>109690100not human like most of the world today
>>109690289>>109690289>>109690289
>SAAAAR YOUR CODE IS SO INFLUENTIAL TO US BRAHMANS
