How does it make any sense? Who did this?
usb type b
>no Wifi printer in 2016 + 10Why?
>>109696639Because people in companies don't usually have that cable on them everything about printers is to get people to not want to touch them
>>109696639Is this bait?With all the zoomers in the board I can't tell anymore.
>>109696639They made that decision in 1998 before you were born apparently.
>>109696639USB type B is rock-solid and cheap. There really isn't any reason not to use it on a large device like a printer.
>>109696639usb type B is my waifu, back off
>>109696639Those cables are always long af... 25ft+. I've never seen a short one. I assumed that USB B interface is good for long USB cable runs. Also >>109696759
At least most of /g/ is too young to remember parallel ports.
Printers are satanic devices. Everything about them is fucked up and designed to be as annoying as possible and break as much as possible
>>109697057That sounds so strange. I really don't miss the era of serial/parallel ports on ISA cards, IRQ conflicts, etc...
>>109696639Soon...
>>109696639It seems like the first generation of USB devices loved using this port before mini USB came along..
>>109697171Why does it use paper rolls though? I've never seen those in any supermarket. Doesn't seem very convenient.
>>109696639it's just become the standard and hasn't changed (like console ports on switches).it's still a USB standard so it's not that weird.rarely see anyone using it over Wi-Fi or Network printing these days anyway.
>>109697102I had a printer I quite liked, an old HP Laserjet.
>>109696639My ancient seagate 300 gb external hdd used that port
>>109697226why does it have two ieee1394 ports, for daisy chaining or something?
>>109696796Why not use micro USB or USB-c?
>>109697248Because Type B is mechanically way more solid. Contact issues are basically unheard of and the extra size of the plug isn't a real issue. I guess printers using Type-C will eventually show up but micro-USB doesn't make any sense.
>>109697239Yeah, you can chain up to 63 firewire devices
I have some older MIDI gear that accepts USB type B. I think they used it because it's more durable and harder to try to insert incorrectly.
>>109697314why didn't they have two USB ports then? Just more people actually used firewire chaining than usb?
USB Type A• Uses: PCs, laptops, game consoles, TVs, chargers, peripherals• Pros: Very common; durable; widely compatible• Cons: Not reversible; being replaced by USB-C on newer devicesUSB Type B• Uses: Printers, scanners, some audio equipment and external hardware• Pros: Sturdy connector; good for stationary peripherals like printers and scanners• Cons: Bulky; uncommon on modern devices; not reversibleUSB 3.0 (Type A)• Uses: External hard drives/SSDs, flash drives, high-speed peripherals• Pros: Faster data transfer than USB 2.0; widely supported• Cons: Still not reversible; USB 3.x naming/speed standards can be confusingUSB Mini• Uses: Older cameras, MP3 players, GPS devices, older electronics• Pros: Smaller than Type A/B; relatively sturdy• Cons: Outdated; largely replaced by Micro-USB and USB-CUSB Micro (Micro-USB)• Uses: Older smartphones, cameras, power banks, controllers, accessories• Pros: Small; inexpensive; once extremely common• Cons: Not reversible; weaker connector than USB-C; slower/less capable on many devicesUSB Type C• Uses: Modern phones, laptops, tablets, chargers, monitors, docks, SSDs• Pros: Reversible; compact; supports fast charging and high-speed data; can support video• Cons: Capabilities vary greatly between USB-C cables/ports; some features require compatible hardwareUSB Micro B• Uses: Older Android phones, power banks, cameras, GPS devices, external drives• Pros: Small; inexpensive; common on older electronics• Cons: Not reversible; fragile compared with USB-C; increasingly obsoleteDESU, i dont actually understand why everything doesnt just use usb-C. Its the superior plug and can do all the above. The only reasoning is to make things different so users dont get confusaled
It uses two different connectors because one side is host and the other is client. You can't mix them.
>>109697197I'm guessing it has to do with there being less moving parts. I'd be interested in buying one if all the brother laser printers magically disappeared off the face of the earth one day.
>>109697491I believe they also had separate physical connectors because you couldn't (and still can't) have a double Type-A cable. It would just short out whatever it's plugged into.
>>109697197just use toilet paper
woah...i just checked the back of my HL-L2395DW...there's a usb type b back there...
>>109697579my monitor has a type b port used to interface with the PC for firmware upgrades, etc. There is an update available but I don't have any type b cables lol
>>109697591just solder bare wires to the pads
>>109697197They said that it will (also) work with standard A4 sheets.
>>109697449"USB Micro B" was actually pretty cool, my old phone had it. I don't know why this list claims it was fragile. Because it was wider and had the bump in the middle, there was less risk of damaging the port if your charging cable's connector got bent at an odd angle.After using that phone for the better part of a decade, the charging port was still (for lack of a better word) tight.
Seems like it's all bots in this thread. Can you tell that my answer is the right one?It's because USB is inherently a host -> client architecture, and the inventors of USB wanted a different port to distinguish the host device and the client device.
>>109696639Printer USB connection is legacy thing as a whole so there is no point in switching to USB-C which would be more prone to breaking anyway when moving the printer around. At home it's more comfortable to connect it to Wi-Fi and in offices it's better to connect it via Ethernet to get remote management.
USB Mini was goated. Much more durable tham USB Micro while not being that much bigger>>109697619The Galaxy S5 port failing was notorious. Don’t know if its just that device with a bad implementation but thats what killed the Micro B reputation
>>109697171>Reinventing the wheel>Toiletpaper roll style printer
>>109697491>>109697560Yeah, its really this. Type B is so you can't be a dumbass and crosslink two computers. Due to the wiring as well, only one side can be client and one side host. If both sides were usb A then you'd have to mark them some other way, and still risk forgetting.
>>109697449I have so many ancient shitty USB mini cables I can't throw away because I always forget which ones go to the few devices that still use them.
>>109697057some of us even go to the trouble of spending money and time to recreate them
>>109697717Micro is actually more durable than mini.When they created mini they though you would plug/unplug a device maybe once a month not plug it in daily to charge, so they thought a few thousand plug/unplug cycles was plenty.Sure micro is also a bit smaller but it was mostly created to allow phone charging which just wasn't an option with mini.
My old Action Replay for Gameboy Advanced used a type B.
>>109696689Don’t want to make it too easy for glownigs
>>109697449There were a few others.>Universal Serial Bus>Fifteen different plugs because fuck youI wish USB C existed from the beginning and nothing else.
>>109697591>my monitor has a type b port used to interface with the PC for firmware upgrades, etc.More likely it's for USB-A ports integrated in your screen.You plug your keyboard and mouse in your screen and your screen in your PC.Some screens also have a conveniently located port for temporarily plugging in thumb drives and such.My screen even has a KVM switch so I can connect two computers and switch between them while using the same keyboard and mouse.But that of course only works when the screen can communicate with both computers via USB - it has one USB-B port (intended for a desktop) and one USB-C port (intended for a laptop, with power to charge the laptop) for that.
>>109697870>More likely it's for USB-A ports integrated in your screen.the display doesn't have such USB ports
>>109697867The bus is both serial and universal.It's only the connectors that come in different flavors.And it's actually quite amazing how you can plug 30 year old devices into any modern computer and it just werks.It used to be that every type of device had its own unique connector: couldn't plug a joystick into a mouse input.
>>109697867USB-C has taken the complexity of the port and just transferred it to the cable. Now you need to know if your cable can do TB5, or 240W of power, or any length at all. Even the high quality cables can't do all of the above.
>>109697197Probably something to do with patents held by other printer companies on how to feed paper into a printer. That's the major reason printers are so fucked. A bunch of companies patented all the obvious and easy ways to make a printer work and now they just sit on them knowing no one else is able to make basic printers.
>>109697867USB C is dogshit. It’s fragile and there’s two different types of cables
>>109697449isn't it possible to fry your device with USB C as it can run more than 5V? Last USB-C DAC I had popping issues once the sound stopped even with all energy saving options disabled despite costing more than $1k. The manufacturer told me they couldn't patch this either. Never had a similar issue on an USB-B DAC
>>109697743USB A isn't reversible
>>109698109The USB C interface can only draw as much power as its controller tells it to
>>109698080>It’s fragileSo don't run over it with your gamer chair and buy the right cable.
>>109698109Maybe unrelated but I had a usb dac and also had popping issues, for a long time I couldn't find the reason for it, I initially assumed it was bad power supply or even ubstable current supply at my house (old house, old instlation) until one day I plugged my dac into a powered usb hub instead of directly connecting to my pc and the popping disappeared, the actual reason for it was my shitty pc motherboard/usb chipset just fucking up and sending some kind of power surges over usb.
>>109698167I previously had an USB-B DAC with no issues so I knew it was either the device itself or the USB-C or maybe just the manufacturer doing some crap on hardware level. I don't plan to switch from my current anyway which uses USB-B that still seems to be the more common choice for USB DACs.
>>109697946Even better, its often unmarked so you just have to remember or mess around until you find a cable that works.
>>109696639You guys have printers? I tought everyone here was a poorfag but I'm the only one
>>109698359printers are cheap now that paper and ink is a subscription service
>>109698365Don't use inkjet printers. Get a BW laser printer and just go to the library or a Fedex store whenever you need to print something in color.
>>109697449Because it's a flimsy dogshit wildcard plug for retarded subhuman niggers. It should have only been used where Type-A wouldn't fit and nowhere else.
>>109698422I just have an Epson printer that takes color, its just that those are easy to buy as bootlegs on ebay and other places. It doesn't reject you if it doesn't detect an official cartridge, it just gives you a message on the printer that they aren't official.
>>109697197a reliable feeder mechanism is difficult and complex, while a roll and cutter is really easy, you can still fill one by one the pages
>>109696639unc that doesn't use WiFi laser printer that has been around for decades, or own a DRM-heavy ink printer that costs $80.
>>109697171Paper roll seems superior in every way.
>>109697321USB doesn’t support daisy chaining!
>>109696689honestly? because the wifi thing dont work
>>109698577>WiFi printer Enjoy getting hacked
