I'm trying to finally upgrade my 15-year-old IPS Dell UltraSharp 1080p monitor for a 2K or 4K one and TFT Central is still recommending VA panels all over. What the fuck happened to OLED monitors being the future?Do they still burn themselves?What's the way to go with monitors in 2026?Why are they all over 300 Hz?There is no GPU able to run modern games at 360 fps.
>>109702813300 frames at 4k ? No...300 fake frames at fake 4k... Now that's a whole different story.
>>109702813If you need OLED go with ASUS ROG.If you need IPS go with ASUS ProArt or BenQ.Anything past 144Hz is a meme and you need a 5090 regardless of going past 60 FPS in modern games.Choices are simple.
>>109702813>Do they still burn themselves?yes>What's the way to go with monitors in 2026?4k OLED or mini LED. OLED has perfect contrast and instant pixel response time, with the crippling issue of burn-in. Mini LED has far better large-area brightness, with the main issue being haloing. If you don't care about burn-in, you can probably just go with OLED, though you should look into some of their other common issues before you decide, like grey banding / unevenness and VRR flicker.If motion quality is of utmost importance to you, you should look at a Pulsar screen instead. These will have the best motion representation but I believe they don't even support HDR at all, so you're giving up a lot of image quality in other areas. There isn't a screen on the market which does everything right, with no serious compromises. Pick your poison.>Why are they all over 300 Hz?>There is no GPU able to run modern games at 360 fps.esports shit, or maybe this is where you make use of the epin frame generation features.
>upgrading from 1080p to 1080pwhy?
>>109702893Are you a bot?
>>109702893>>109702907Damn do people still larp that 1440p is not good?
>>109702957>2560 × 1440Op is talking about 2k
>>109702813>What's the way to go with monitors in 2026?CRTs
>>109702813lets be real, competitive games where these frames matter can get pretty high on top hw, 9850x3d and rtx5090 will get you there on 1080 and 1440and on non competitive upscaling res to 4k or fps x2 isnt that bad, for some lag and occasional artifacts you get higher motion clarity that said, buying non oled in 2026 is just not optimal, I dont want to get into flamewars, so just go to electronics shop and see for yourself, it is on different level compared to va or ips however many backlight leds they haveoleds still do burn, it is not that bad /g/ makes it, but no way it is going to last 15y, not that I think any monitor made today is going to last 15y, falds are going to die much sooner that oleds according to testsoh btw 4k is much better than 1440 for general use
>>109703146That is 2k retard.1k = 1080p2k = 1440p4k = 2160p8k = 4320p
>>109702813Wait for 2027 monitor releases unironically before listening to any of these OLED midwits/shills. Mainly cause 1000hz esports TN panels are about to release in December/JanuaryIn the mean time, get a medium to high refresh rate 180hz-240hz TN or IPS>>109702882>If you need IPS go with ASUS ProArtWrong, get an EIZO or any other reputable IPS you fucking Asus dicksucking reddit shill. BenQ are only good at TN panels
how about buy new IPS Dell UltraSharp 1080p then place old one somewhere
>>109703933huh? explain me. where does the '2k' come from?
OLED is still the only choice if you want a new Monitor and value quality3D OLEDs will release in 2027 possibly, im excited for that>>109703225based>>109704938>Mainly cause 1000hz esports TN panels are about to release in December/JanuaryLiteral ewaste unless you are a competitive cuck
>>109702813>Do they still burn themselves?yes, the first letter in OLED is why, now go back.
>>109702813>What the fuck happened to OLED monitors being the future?they've always been shit beyond handheld that needs to save batteryonly fucking retards have ever bought OLED for any other use>Do they still burn themselves?yes, and they always willthat's why they're utter fucking shit>>109702890>OLED has perfect contrastnot eventhey'd have perfect contrast if there wasn't any ambient light (and you should have bias light), and in a perfectly black and non reflective room (which you shouldn't: it should be mid-grey, if you care for accuracy)don't believe the fuck high numbers crooks and retards pull out: they measure in the dark with all pixels shut off for the dark part, which isn't how it should be done (should be done with a standardized checkerboard pattern that makes those numbers plummet)OLED has better contrast, but not anywhere as high as claimed, and in practice, not even impressive for properly set up monitors (luminosity down a lot), in a proper setting (proper bias lighting, against a grey wall)truly, OLED are the apple of monitor techif that's what you have and paid for it with your own money, you've only proven you're a clueless pseudwhich would be fine and funny, if you weren't shitting up the market for better, proper things
>>109706451no it's not, you fucking retarded pseudOLED is for handheld, exclusivelyfuckwits like you who buy OLED monitors should be chained and burned alivenot even out of anger: out of mercy
>>109706419They used to reference monitors by their vertical pixels (720p, 900p, 1080p, 1440p) but when they went to 4K marketers decided to be faggots about it and start using the horizontal pixels (4K = 3840 x 2160).So now there are those using vertical pixel naming (1080p, 1440p) and 4K/8K. 4K is 4x1080p / 8x720p2K is 4x720pIt's also why if you watch any media, watching on a 4K screen is better for interpolation of pixels.I've heard 2560 x 1440 also called 2.5K.5120 x 2160 is 5K2K.It's dumb marketing shit.
why CRT simulator is so much sharper and clearer than the right image, my monitor is running 120Hz, CRT simulated at 60hz, yet it looks insanely sharp, is it actually simulating drawing one line at a time? if this is real then why isnt there CRT mode on regular modern monitors
>>109706507the risk of burn in is preferable to buying a monitor that is ewaste from the factory>>109706494>not evenThey have more then perfect contrast allreadyBetter then our eyes can percieve literallycope and seethe thirdie
>>109706748>They have more then perfect contrast allreadyno, they don'tfucking retard
>>109702813If you got money to burn and you buy something to use just a few years, go Oled for mah nigga blacks.If you want longevity, still go IPS.Nothing beyond 144Hz is worth it, you won't notice.
>>109706419>>1097066732k and 4k are some DCI standards or some such, from the professional cinema side of the industry. Their actual resolutions are 2048x1080 (so, wider 1080p) and 4096x2160 (so, wider 2160p).Because 3840x2160 is close to 4096x2160, the former started being called "4k" as well despite not actually matching the standard. 2560x1440 is not close to 2k at all, 2k is very close to consumer 1080p in reality. People started calling 2560x1440 "2k" out of sheer ignorance / retardation, despite 2560x1440 actually being far higher resolution than 2k.
4k is retarded because you have to use fracitonal scaling... with a 5k screen you'll use a 1440p res scaled 200% which is good....better yet, just get a regular 1440p monitor with MiniLED so you dont have to deal with OLED burn in
>>109702813How big is the difference between 60hz and 160hz? Would I feel the difference? I've only used cheap 1080p 60hz monitors because I thought it's all a meme.But recently I went to a friend and saw his monitor while he was playing a specific game I play too. And his game was really smooth, even tho my PC is leagues above his own. Is the monitor the problem?
>>109707545definitely a huge difference, but around the max useful refresh rate (don't go higher)also, at constant resolution, your GPU will have to compute 2.67 times more screens in the same time, so it'll tax it accordingly
>>109707479Just get a 4k screen you can run at 100% scaling. The only people who like 5k screens are macfags who love gobbling $1600 60Hz display nuts.
>>109706451>Literal ewaste unless you are a competitive cuckthats rich, coming from the literal funkopop collecting manchild who refuses to part ways with his virgin-reeking CRT.im willing to bet the literal fat hags [troons] that you scrape up from the once-in-a-decade night out at the arcade bar are too ashamed to walk into your room and compliment the nostalgia[cuck]box.
>>109702813My laptop monitor:>Panel model BOE NT156FHM-N61 / BOE07CB>TN >60 hz>220 nits>500:1 contrast ratio (but apparently measured even lower)>~50% sRGB>matteapparently this monitor is shit even for a budget TN lol
I got rid of my flat ultrawide for a curved one, downgraded to two $2 garage sale displays, then drunk bought a 29" curved 2560x1080 Crua display. Still going strong about 2y later barring the ~1/4" of bleed around the bezel on all sides
>>1097028131440p 165/180hz ips is the new 1080p60, you can get a decent one for like $150 by just walking into a shopI’d wait for 2028 gpus before moving to 4k, the tradeoffs are too big atm unless you own a 5090 or 6000
Stop overthinking it and just get the most expensive OLED you can afford. When the screen starts to burn-in that means you've had it for long enough and it's time you bought a new one. Burn-in is a helpful feature for making sure you're always up-to-date with the latest monitor tech available.
>>109707479Fractional scaling has not been an issue since forever, at least not on Windows or on Linux with KDE, which are the desktop OS' I use. Pretty damn sure it worked fine as far back as Windows 7 at the very least and I don't even know how fucking long on KDE, but a long ass time for sure. I don't know if it's broken on Mac and all the retards complaining are Macfags or what, but if you think it's a problem on PC then you must be stuck in the mid 2000s or some shit.
>>109707545>How big is the difference between 60hz and 160hz? Would I feel the difference?Yes, it's a huge difference. I've got a 160Hz screen as well and getting used to high FPS has now made 60FPS feel somewhat stuttery to me, the difference is that big.
>>109706494What's your tier list then?
>>109706507Are you that same anon who whined and bitched on that glossy OLED thread several days ago? God you are so fucking pathetic, imagine getting that angry over technology.
>>109706494>not evenYou're right, they don't have literally infinite static contrast (the checkerboard test you mention), but OLED screens can still completely shut off individual pixels and as such emit no light on a per-pixel level. Practically speaking, I don't know how much better contrast can get beyond this point. In the real world there will obviously be light bouncing back into the screen from the environment, even if it is light from the monitor itself being reflected back. So what can you even do, make the color of the turned off screen an even deeper black? That's about all there is to it and I don't think it would make a major difference, I mean OLED screens are pretty dark, they're not like CRTs which were very obviously grey and suffered heavily in lit environments.
>>109708886Don't worry about meatheaded OLED seether anon, he's a bit of a fucking spastic (you'd think OLED killed his parents or something by the way he carries on in monitor technology threads). He probably wanked himself into a state of euphoria back when they pulled the plug on CRT technology and jizzed all over his glowing backlit-grey LCD. I think it is some kind of rare self-abasement fetish for mediocrity. Sad, really.
>>109702813> What the fuck happened to OLED monitors being the future?The thing nobody mentions but annoys everyone, glossy finish.
>tfw a line of dead pixels appeared on my AOC monitor just days after the warranty expired fuck AOC, fuck you fuck you fuck you what's a good brand with actual quality control?
>>109708966my cheap ass 32" AOC i bought like a decade ago works perfectly fine still. Guess i got lucky
>>109707927My CRT Monitors appreciate in value every yearCan you say the same for your ewaste TN?
>>109708937kys matte cuck
>>109708886>literally infinite static contrastThey have reached the point where they have better contrast then our eyes can handleTest it yourself, bring up a half black half white test patternthen cover your eye slightly to hide only the white part, and the black will be noticably darkerWe have reached the human limit, a little white will always bleed from white to black in our eyes because they dont have perfect contrast
This type of question is impossible to answer without knowing op's specific usecase. That's why you'll only find favorite sports club cope answers itt.It's pretty simple. For esports or home office ips/tn is the way to go. Best input latency and less straining for your eyes. Bad black levels/blooming but irrelevant for your usecase.For multimedia you have to choose between the pros and cons of either mini led VA or oled. I think oled is perfectly fine for tv's but not for desktop because you'd have to practically babysit it all day to reduce chances of burn-in.Mini LED downsides are some amount of ghosting/ black smearing but it can be hardly noticeable depending on the panel quality (I've got one and it never bothers me). It can also get suuuuper bright and generally just looks great on movies and vidya, with good enough contrast to not make you wanna buy oled. And yes the hundreds of hertz thing is a meme. I've got mine set to 160hz which is the maximum with 10 bit color on my monitor, and picture quality is more important to me than speed so I see no point in turning it up. Anything beyond that is practically useless for most people.
>>109709026>They have reached the point where they have better contrast then our eyes can handleYep, OLED is the based Cenobite excess option for lads who just want to stare into the Abyss of TrueBlack™ Glossy. Pussies like the seething IPS anon in this thread are just afraid of the dark.
I need some advice since I don't know a lot about monitors. Currently, the AOC q27g3xmn is available for 230€ which is pretty good compared to when I wanted to buy it last year. 1. Should I wait for something like Black Friday? To see if it can go even lower?2. Should I wait for 2027? I think some Anson said that the next monitor gen will be more powerful and the current monitor prices drop3. Is the AOC q27g3xmn the best at this price range? I don't give a shit about competitive games, I just want my normal games to look good. My price range is 150-250€ max and since my gpu is an rtx 5070ti, I prefer keeping it at 1440p
>>109709455>230Get an OLED on black friday, they get cheap allreadyIf you must have an lcd get a used eizo for 50 euro
>>109708841>Are you that same anon who whined and bitched on that glossy OLED thread several days agonoI'm just disgusted by retards diverting investment from much less retarded shit than OLEDdon't know what the other anon kvetched about, but clearly, he's much less retarded than you apple tier monkeys buying OLED, lol>>109708886>I don't know how much better contrast can get beyond this pointthat's the thing: you can't get better contrast long, long before this pointon a properly set up monitor, contrast depends from the room, not from the monitor: that's the very thing in questionproperly set up (low light intensity, only bias light in the room, in front of a neutral wall), LCD monitors have already offered as much contrast as you're gonna need for a long ass time already (that's not the proper bias light only feature, but it very much is one: by contrast, funnily enough, it makes the blacks appear blacker)claiming contrast gains on OLED just proves you're setting up screen like a trisomic monkey; just proves you're a retarded apple tier pseud>OLED screens are pretty dark, they're not like CRTs which were very obviously grey and suffered heavily in lit environmentsbullshit as well: CRTs were not obviously grey, and even less so with bias lightingthey suffered from reflections when in front of a light source, obviously, due to the glass (hence why they were set up with hoods, which are still a thing, by the way), but that's it (and that's why they were still most used as critical monitors in video studios till the early 10's: and they lost due to resolution and size, certainly not black quality)
>>109708886they need to start making darkbulbs and darkpixels that can't bounce ambient light off themselves
>>109702867>NOOOO MUH HECKIN FAKE FRAMES AHHHHHHWho gives a fuck? As long my eyes think its 300 frames, guess what fuckface? It's 300 frames.
>>109709827>claiming contrast gains on OLED just proves you're setting up screen like a trisomic monkey; just proves you're a retarded apple tier pseudOnly someone who has never used an OLED would say this.OLED makes lcds look unusable side by side
>>109710444not when set up at proper brightness, and with proper bias lighting, noonly someone who uses monitors like a retarded monkey would claim it is night and day, lol
>>109710444>OLED makes lcds look unusable side by sideThis.I still can't vouch for using an OLED for desktop usage because of risk of burn-in, but fuck, it hurts my eyes every time I switch from my OLED TV to my PC monitor.There just is no going back from OLED picture quality.>>109706735What are you asking exactly?Your monitor is drawing 50% of the screen in each of the 120hz frames. Simulating a slightly motion sharper 60Hz display.>>109710017retard awardhave some self-respect, anon
I have a 1440p monitor that I use at 100% scaling.I would like to upgrade to something better while using integer scaling (200% scale) to avoid scaling problems, but 4K would not allow me to keep the same size.The 200% of 1440p would be a 5K monitor, but there seem to be very few high-refresh rate 5K monitors.
>>109709827>LCD monitors have already offered as much contrast as you're gonna need for a long ass time alreadyThis isn't true unless you're talking about a very brightly lit room, such as by natural sunlight coming in through large windows. In the conditions you specify you will see a very obvious difference between an LCD screen with a static backlight and one with local dimming for example. OLED will clearly look different as well.>CRTs were not obviously grey, and even less so with bias lightingI have 3 with me in the room right now, they are grey. You have to be utterly delusional to deny this. They're still grey at night with nothing but soft mood lighting turned on as well, because their screens are nowhere close to black, unlike LCDs and OLEDs.>>109710637You don't need integer scaling.
>>109710704>This isn't true unless you're talking about a very brightly lit room, such as by natural sunlight coming in through large windowsno, it's the oppositein a dark room, with proper bias light, and properly set up monitors, LCD are already adequate in contrast: there is a difference, but certainly not light and day, and even less so one justifying buying burnable shit>I have 3 with me in the room right now, they are greythat you have 3 shit, and poorly set up CRTs tells more about you than anythingsame as defending OLED for monitors, in the name of contrast: you obviously set up your monitors far too high in brightness, with far too low bias lighting, or even other light sources in the roomif you were setting those up properly, you wouldn't see the point of buying burnable shit
>>109710704>You don't need integer scaling.You do.You would be surprised at how hard it is for 2D graphics libraries to render in non-integer scale values.Lots of desktop environments (yes, including Windows and MacOS) have trouble rendering lots of applications in non-integer.
>>109702813>Do they still burn themselves?Inherent property of OLED that will never be solved. 4K Mini LED is the best value for money right now even though it's still LCD slop, but at least it won't burn out and can get bright.
>>109708996CRTs will all go extinct by the 2030/2040 mark lol
>>109710507It is night and dayOnly a pajeet would claim OLEDs and LCDs are comparable>>109710595>There just is no going back from OLED picture quality.Yes, the quality is stunning there is no denying that.>>109710744>that you have 3 shit, and poorly set up CRTs tells more about you than anythingYeah you dont own either CRT or OLED lmaoFucking monkeyIn static images OLED looks alot better then CRT even in a dark roomCRT Ansi contrast isnt great>>1097108952040 ill still have my crts and they will be worth 10x what they are nowcope and seethe lcd tranny
>>109710976>It is night and dayno, it isn't when both are properly set uplower monitor brightness makes the blacks darker (and almost everyone uses far too much brightness: there are norms about that, really: and they were created for much better equipment than most will ever know exists)and bias lighting ensures your pupils don't widen so much that blacks appear so grey (there are norms about that too)if you use both properly, claiming LCD blacks can't be black enough is useless and delusional nitpicking>Only a pajeet would claim OLEDs and LCDs are comparableit's rather monkeys dumb enough to be pajeet tier who install monitors with far too much brightness, far too low bias light, and even other light sourcesno wonder you reach the most retarded conclusion to justify buying retarded shitas you can see by such retarded animals as:>>109703555>just go to electronics shop and see for yourself, it is on different level compared to va or ips however many backlight leds they havehow the fuck are you gonna check shit in a bright as day shop, where monitors are left in shop demo mode (full brightness, candy "colors"), lmao???you're at audiofools' (most low) level when they're nitpicking about speaker drivers while ignoring the +30-40dB untreated room modes that'll make them hear some frequencies 8-16 times louder (and others not at all), ffsif you were using your monitors properly (which is a lot cheaper than with acoustics), you wouldn't need to buy more expensive yet crappier shit, lol
>>109702813>I'm trying to finally upgrade my 15-year-old IPS Dell UltraSharp 1080p monitor for a 2K or 4K one and TFT Central is still recommending VA panels all over.obvious lie
>>109711059I use under 200 nits on both OLED and LCD faggotLCD looks terrible even at low brightness
>Viewing angles>Contrast>Response time>Backlight glowLCD is unironically unusable to meyoud have to be blind to pretend its comparable to CRT or OLED
>>109710976>you dont own either CRT or OLED lmaoI have owned all, and all of great qualityand I know how to use them, which you apparently don't>CRT Ansi contrast isnt greatno ANSI contrast is ever greatnor does it need to beyou realize movies are graded in studios where, projectors need be, the effective ANSI, checkerboard contrast is about 1:100 (which is already excellent!)?and that it's already more than enough (movies typically costing far more than whatever it is you're doing on your OLED crap)?no you don't: because you're a retarded monkey talking out of his ass, and not knowing how to use his hardware, lol>>109711094>I use under 200 nits on both OLED and LCDsee? it's already twice too much for monitors, niggerwits (and would be almost 4 times too much for projectors)from then on, not hard to guess your bias lighting (if any) is shit too, lolas expected, you're a retard, not even knowing how to use his hardware, lmaono wonder you talk like a fag, and that your shit is all retarded
>>109711140OLED is calibrated to 160 nitsCRT to 100 nitsjust fuck off retardProper calibration cannot offset lcd being a dogshit technologyid rather use a CRT then an LCD
>>109710637What size 1440p?You should look for something that will give you the same PPI. If you have a 27" 1440p monitor, you have a 109 PPI.The equivalent 4k monitor will be a 40" screen with 110 ppi at 100% scaling. If you're fine with a bit higher, I use a 4k 32" screen with 132 ppi and keep it at 100% scaling. I only have to change the scale of certain websites and sometimes my IDE but those are usually vector graphics and can handle the scaling without blurring.
EIZO the last holdout for LCD tech because of their use in pro work has given in and accepted that OLED just destroys every other tech. https://www.eizoglobal.com/products/coloredge/cg3200x/#tab01LCD has lost again
