>Mac and Linux are basically the same under the hood
>>109703550
>>109703550They're both Unix, yes.
>>109703550>mac is unix with 6 gorrilian pounds of shit and walled garden training wheels on top of it to prevent you from being to even remotely control or do what you want with your own hardware
I use Linuk on my desktop and macos on my macbook, I like both and I don't give a shit.
>>109703550>>109703562>>109703736macOS is certified unix, linux is unix-like, both of them are completely different underneath, linux isn't even a complete OS.
>>109703749Same. But I also dual boot wangblows for gayming
>>109703795Then why commands work????
>>109703550whomst've quoteth?
>>109703829same commands also work on wslare you gonna say that windows is linux-like?also: what you wrote is not even true
>>109703795>macOS is certified unixWhich is retarded because they didn't even implement clock_gettime (the standard method to get system time, including monotonic time). Their implementation of posix regex functions (in C) also used to be to launch a perl process to do the regex and return the result to C.
>>109703925they didn't even implement clock_gettime at the time when it got unix certified*, they implemented it long after.
>>109703550if all you care about is some POSIX conformance suite, ya mostly.
>>109703550Yes. I game on my Linux Desktop and work on my Macbook.
>>109703905>same commands also work on wsl>are you gonna say that windows is linux-like?
>>109703550Is this really what Linux users look like?
>>109703550This is basically true though.
>>109703550Linux is not unix.Mac OSX is better than unix in that is uses the Mac Microkernel.This is one reason it was so portable from powerPC to Intel, and now the ARM-like M series.One problem with this is the Mach “port” IPC mechanism wasn’t always the fastest PPC or Intel but now they can add specific instructions to make things like mach_port_* calls basically hardware implementations.Kind of like PUSHA/ENTER/LEAVE on 80186 processors back in the day.
mach_port_*
>>109704048wish that was me
Poor people and rich people are all the same under the hood
>>109703550Chromium was also a fork of WebKit at first made by Mozilla devs who got poached after Firefox came outEverything is all just one thing
>threadbaitbrothers....
>>109703550yeah, accept the Mac hood is welded shut and it's a felony to try to open it.
>>109704048My computer looks like that and acts like that
>>109703905unironically yes. there are like 3 different posix subsystems going back to NT (only WSL is complete, though)
>>109703550Yeah, they're both preemptive multitasking kernels using some sort of paged protected memory scheme.But over the hood is where the real magic happens, as in you have that garbage that apple made, or the superior xfce.Macs would be a lot better if you could just install XFCE on em.
>>109703550MacOS is a BSD distro
linux is just mac with a bunch of tranny crap sprinkled on top
>>109703557That doods sake probably tastes like ass
>>109704092Uh, pretty much every computer from the late 70s onwards got the Bell Labs Unix kernel ported to it. It's probably the most cross-platform piece of software ever written.>Every PDP computer starting with the PDP-7>Interdata 8/32 + 7/32>VAX-11/780>x86>IA-64>System/360 + 370>UNIVAC 1100>3B20S + 3B5>Cray X-MP + Y-MP>68k>Z8000>SPARC>MIPS>POWER/PowerPC>PA-RISC>DEC Alpha>DG/Nova + Eclipse>Perkin-Elmer 3200>ARMAnd the list goes on and on and on. Basically everything got Bell Labs' Unix ported to it until the late 90s when Linux and the BSDs started replacing it.Also XNU (Apple's fork of Mach) isn't a microkernel.
>>109704048yes, i look like this
It's the hood that matters
>>109703550is not linux with fat efi boot a bit of a windows machine
The main difference is linux is extremely expensive and overpriced.
>>109706753I can see a mac user burning a fortune in chatGPT to be able to amplify their knowledge enough to be almost capable of using linux, or at least Windows.The concept of folders befuddles and confuses the mac user.
Windows and Mac are basically the same (trash)
>>109706791>haha lookit me i can manually manage my files and folders from my moms basement! i'm so le epik hax0rNobody cares about that autismo bullshit in the job market. Real technical skills that companies hire for are what matter.
>>109703795>linux isn't even a complete OSyea but it pretty much is
>>109706935Such as?
>>109703550They're both for colossal faggots?
>>109706961>yea but it pretty much is
>>109707151Gnome is trash
>>109707168>95% of linux is trashthe first part of recovery is admitting you have a problem
>>109703925>Their implementation of posix regex functions (in C) also used to be to launch a perl process to do the regex and return the result to C.God damn what a hack.
>>109707181OSX is trash and you have no option to make it good.You can't make finder good, you can't make the windows not look autistic, you have to enter literal cheat codes to unlock secret options to do something plain like making the machine not sleep when you close the lid.It's just garbage all around.
>>109707181>>109707168>>109707151If you care about it then fix it. The reason everyone just uses piles of xterms is because that's all they care to maintain.
>>109707205Most DEs are pretty good, it's just gnome that is trash.
>>109707204>i can't cope with reality so i'll call it trashmeanwhile in the REAL world
>>109707215see >>109707181
Heh
>>109707223In the real world you have to do the cuck ritual, while i can just double click and appimage without even installing, or just install the WIndows version.Or type "yay roughly the name of the program" without having to browse shit.And that's with the official licensed software (tm).If the software is not kosher, you have to go to the security option shit and "allow the software" by typing your password several times, twice per component that the OSX have a grip with.I heard there was some cheat to avoid this, but they removed it.
>>109707261works on my machine
>>109707223>>109707261I don't think you retards understand how all the development software is flipped.On Linux anything involving development is trivial, easy, and predictable. It's like this partly because *there's no distinction between users and developers.* As a consequence when we try to use eg OSX everything we expect to be easy turns into absolute rocket science (or is entirely impossible for arbitrary reasons.) I think most of you should stay over there in rainbow GUI land and just keep taking it up the ass when apple wants you to. Stop bothering us.
>>109707273It works with you (someone that is fine with the cuck ritual and security theater, and autism semaphores, and having to press key combinations to even be allowed to type addresses on finder)>>109707279You should read the posts you're quoting more carefully
>>109706962Just suck a few dicks to climb the corporate ladder. Females need not apply.
After 30 years of free alternatives>We still don't know what audio system we should use>We still don't know what display server we should use>We still don't know what widget toolkit we should use>We still don't know what DE we should use>We still don't know how to fix most DE bugs>We still don't know what init system we should useAnd the funniest one>We still haven't figured out what's the best way to install software
>>109703550>cant shut down quartz without macos killing itself>cant compile anything for x11There's probably more but that's where I gave up on using it
>>109707417>>We still don't know what audio system we should useWhichever one *I* feel like using>>We still don't know what display server we should useWhichever one *I* feel like using>>We still don't know what widget toolkit we should useWhichever one *I* feel like using>>We still don't know what DE we should useWhichever one *I* feel like using>>We still don't know how to fix most DE bugsWhichever one *I* feel like using>>We still don't know what init system we should useWhichever one *I* feel like using
>>109707399This sound exactly like the kind of guy that would be caught with a woman
>>109703749I wish I could do this but asahi Lina won't get off her fat ass and get DP drivers working
>>109705194>Macs would be a lot better if you could just install XFCE on em.This would obliterate Linux for good
>>109707749>DPimagine being dp'd by marcan and """alyssa"""
>>109703550Isnt the bsd+xnu hodge podge total crap? I remember reading file opening and reading is under a single thread global lock.
>he fell for the loonix meme
Guess which OS has both UNIX and POSIX certifications.That's right, it's not the "free freak Unix" that wasn't a true Unix clone ever since it's inception, as stated by it's creator.
>>109704252and webkit was just a fork of khtml engine from kde
>>109705194>xfeces >good
>>109707431>cant shut down quartz without macos killing itself>cant compile anything for x11t. techlet
Nobody cares about UNIX certification. It's like saying it is IBM compatible in current year.
>>109703550>>109703795No one under the age of 40 cares about UNIX. People are attracted to Linux because Windows is shit, that's it. Linux has entered its Eternal September and /g/ has to accept it.
>>109708685IBM PC compatible is still quite relevant as most people use it."UNIX certified" means your mac can run shell scripts coming from magnetic tapesNot even programs, shell scripts.