literally all they do is raise the bar a tiny amount and that makes (users of) other distros seethe like troonsjust fucking add some CPU optimizations to your distros, faggotsit can't be that hard if some pajeets can do it, right?how do other distros suck so bad that someone wins by doing almost nothing?
I use cachyos and think OP needs to shut the fuck up.
>>109709176I am OP and I use cachyos and I think you need to shut the fuck up.
>if some pajeets can do it, right?That's the thing, pajeets can't do it. CachyOS was not made by pajeets. That's why it why it's a successful product, that's why it works.
>>109709190even if pajeets didn't make it, it's seriously not so difficult that a pajeet couldn't do it.doesn't answer the main point - why do other distros spaz out at the thought of CPU optimizations? it's been a thing for years.
>>109709224It's a headache. You have to manage V3/V4 instruction sets of packages. The packages and the "performance tuning" isn't the only reason CachyOS is successful. Their "tuning" is kind of a meme anyway. The winning formula is basing it on Arch, making it easy to install, and giving the option to install some essential applications like a DE and Browser right there in the installer. Plus this is going through an extra set of people, it's more stable than Arch too.
>>109709190trvth nvke
>>109709265>You have to manage V3/V4 instruction sets of packagesforce everyone onto V3, problem solved. no one is running anything less than a core i3 now. opensuse is already doing v2. just take it one level higher and make people using ancient hardware realize they are not going to hold the rest of us back. we did this multiple times over the decades, forced the retards to upgrade or stay irrelevant. if we didn't we would be kowtowing to i386 niglets in brazil or something.
it's genuinely not far off from beating steamOSi still think it's not really a normalfag distrobut it can easily get a spinoff for them, make it update once a month to guarantee stability and hamfist the gui more, make their package installer more appealing instead of being generically qt
>>109709298>i still think it's not really a normalfag distroit's as normalfag as they come. calamares installer (or whatever the fuck its called, idc, don't @ me bitch), decent wiki, somewhat large community, discord etc.i'm glad they're winning over gamers.they'll win by default, whatever gamers choose is the de facto winner, everyone else can mald and seethe.and no, rolling rel is superior. this argument was won years ago.
>>109709310>and no, rolling rel is superior. this argument was won years ago.i'm not asking for point release, just staggering updates to once a monthhonestly all it would really need is a toggle for newfags and a more forced tutorial where you have to use their package installer, i've seen people use pacman when there's really no needthey could also preinstall bazaar and explain the difference between native packages and flatpaks so people can understand what they prefer
>>109709339>i'm not asking for point release, just staggering updates to once a monththen just run pacman -Syu once a month kekyou're not actually forced to update on arch-based distros, ever
>>109709346>you're not actually forced to update on arch-based distros, everi knowbut the normies don'tcachy sometimes mindbreaks people into updating multiple times per day because they compulsively click the update icon
>>109709355not my problem
>>109709162Nah. I've come to the conclusion that all arch distros are "meh" at best.
>>109709162It's just the Arch equivalent of Mint. Not a real distro.
Remember when stablecucks insisted CachyOS was a FOTM distro? It’s now on its way to becoming the face of Linux at this point, every mainstream influencer recommends it these days and this is where normies get their guidance. It could have been Bazzite, but they fucked up early on and took a lot of flack for a nasty bug
>>109709162It's the perfect retard magnet distro and I'm glad there's always one like that to do that job.Easy install, but is arch-based so makes the redditards think they're slightly superior to normal users.First it was ubuntu, then mint, then manjaro and now this.
>>109709419The consummate retard-magnet distro is Gentoo , actually
>>109709162It has the perfect mix of what people actually want from a PC these days. Excellent hardware support, the best desktop experience with KDE, easy to install and use, great gaming performance (this is increasingly the only reason people even use a pc outside of their job). Every other distro falls short and/or was designed for weirdo autists
>>109709446its the performance for me and i don't even play a lot of games. with other distros i just feel like i'm leaving performance on the table, and for what? to please some debian spazzy on /fglt/?
>>109709418nah, bazzite fucked up by being too focused on tard appeal, immutability doesn't really allow for growth
>>109709355Ask the Cachy muppets to make automatic update checks to be once a week/month.
>>109709475look in the shelly settings, dumbfuck.
what CPU optimizations does it have? is it just compiler flags or are they actually patching things?
>>109709492https://wiki.cachyos.org/cachyos_basic/why_cachyos/
>>109709486This isn't a me problem, retard. I don't use CachyOS.
>>109709507why ask about update checks then, dumbfuck? if you look in the shelly settings, you will see you can change the update check frequency
>>109709522I didn't ask about it. I posted the following sentence:>Ask the Cachy muppets to make automatic update checks to be once a week/month.as a response to someone saying the update notifications mind break noobs into updating multiple times a day. Do you understand what the sentence means?If retards are updating multiple times a day, then perhaps having it automatically check every 5 minutes isn't the way to go by default.
>>109709388>it's just Arch but good
>>109709542>If retards are updating multiple times a day, then perhaps having it automatically check every 5 minutes isn't the way to go by default.it doesn't auto-check every 5 minutes you stupid nigger. the shelly settings have a default set at 72-hourly checks, so that's like 3 days and you can change it to 96 hours.
>>109709492Its straight up some compiler flags and certain options toggled in the kernel. In reality it gains you all of fuck nothing, especially if your hardware was already decent.
>>109709388>if you modify arch to be better in every way, its no longer arch and its also worseAmazing Anon, please tell us more.
>>109709554>In reality it gains you all of fuck nothing, especially if your hardware was already decent.it's like a free 5-20% performance boost. why leave that on the table?
>>109709552Then why is incorrect information being posted in this thread, and what makes it my fault when I didn't post it?
>>109709554Why does the option to have your hardware perform better need to be toggled on in the first place? Do they assume the average Linux user just wants their hardware to perform worse than it otherwise could?
>>109709603compatibility with old hardware
>>109709603Tough questions for the eternal tinkerfags!
>>109709355Aren't they used to android that does the same thing?
>>109709609doesn't it scan your hardware during install?
>>109709609adding CPU optimizations doesn't necessarily make it incompatible with older hw btw
>>109709628No. You'd need a database to know V3 or V4. It's not a Linux specific problem mind you. What most OS do is compile for maximum compatibility.
>>109709628Actually I take that back somewhat, you could theoretically check what you have in CPU info. You'd need your package manager to cross check in that case and always pick the most optimized.
>>109709162I heard it's just Arch Linux with a few different kernel compile flag.If it's that good, Arch devs would have done so already. I trust Arch devs judgment on not implementing those flags.
>>109709628they'd have to maintain multiple separate repos for it
>cachyOSworks>other distrosworks not
>>109709661arch devs really care about the old stinkpad audience
>>109709661You'd be wrong. The kernel changes are the minimal part. The biggest part is that the many packages themselves are optimized for x86v3 instead of x86v1. It gives some performance boost. The other changes are installing is with a GUI and you have a GUI update tool. These last ones are what normal users care about.
>>109709162cachyos won
>>109709683The gaymer distro of choice award
>>109709683not sure if you're trying to dunk on cachy here but it's almost on the same marketshare as the OS made by the number 1 hardware manufacturer in the world. and nearly catching up to fucking steamos itself.that's an incredible achievement in just about 2yrs.
>>109709710Why would you think it’s a dunk, it’s the most popular Linux distro for desktop
>>109709710Hold on a fucking second now, Valve is not the #1 hardware manufacturer in the world. They likely aren't even in the top 100.
>>109709721kek you are fucking retarded>>109709719i said im not sure if *he* was trying to dunk. learn 2 read, pajeet.
>>109709727Oh, the fucking Macs. It never registered to me that could possibly be incredible given that nobody plays games on Mac and the Mac is a very small product line to begin with compared to iphones and other devices that apple makes.
>>109709742well yeah but the point is many millions of fuckers still own one
>>109709727Again, how would it possibly be a dunk? The post says CachyOS won, the screenshot shows that it’s the most popular desktop distro as evidence that it won. If you think that somehow may have been possibly dunking on CachyOS, you’re american-tier IQ.
>>109709693What's the problem with that? It's a good win.>>109709683In Linux land you're the top dog today and the loser tomorrow. CachyOS is a fine distro with the same potential issues as Arch. I think it's good enough for most people but when you want a mix of software versions it starts to crack. I use NixOS because of that and bonus is that the system installation is a configuration. Most users don't give a shit about that though.
>>109709727why would you even be "not sure" retard, maybe you should learn to read
>>109709925CachyOS will continue to be top dog. The advantage it has compared to prior flash-in-the-pan distros is that it has become the trusted “brand” for normies as they finally make the jump from Windows, which will give it lasting appeal for ages. It will reach a point where most people hear Linux and just think of CachyOS. The only way to stop this would be for the CachyOS team to fuck up tremendously somehow and another distro that does the same thing better is already there for people to jump to.
>>109709265>Plus this is going through an extra set of people, it's more stable than Arch too.Lol, no. I have base Arch repos and apply their own repos on top. In fact, it even less “stable” than Arch because they tend to ship latest kernels and mesa when even Arch maintainers don't dare. But they do test their shit first. For example there was bugged kernel release where btrfs could go read-only on unsafe restart. CachyOS devs shipped that kernel with unreleased patch from upstream that fixed the issue, meanwhile Fedora devs shipped this kernel as is and Fedora btrfs users were having a good time lol.
>>109709991That's what all the other distros said but if you're right that's ok
>>109710000Stable in Linux doesn't mean reliable, it means you don't update major versions for a period of time on purpose. Neither is stable in that sense, you're the one who decides when to have it unstable, and at that point you have to update configurations. It's not about bugs, it's about different behavior. It's important for servers to be stable but for regular users it's more of an annoyance to have to adapt to the new configuration and features.
>>109710012Not the same at all, normies weren’t making the jump to Linux when those other distros were relevant. Linux was still exclusively a hobby for autists.
>>109710040There was another major point that maybe you forgot or were unaware, Ubuntu. Even laptops shipped Ubuntu. It was very big at the time and then fizzled out because debian is shit (I'm just trashing debian lol). You could be right and it's different because game reviewers are praising and showing cachyos. Who knows? We'll see.
Might as well ask here instead since /fglt/ is busy shitposting about gatekeeping normalfags:Thinking about trying out CachyOS on a spare SSD, I think I've got everything ready, except one thing that I've been wondering about. All of my data is on NTFS drives (including games), and I heard that NTFS support on Linux wasn't that great and could cause data corruption. Is this still accurate, and if it is, what kind of setup would you guys recommend for a dual booting setup without having to copy games over to the btrfs partition?
>>109710076I am right. Ubuntu was still just some weirdo nerd shit back then. The “Microslop” movement catching on with regular people while Valve has largely solved PC gaming on Linux is what makes this different. You’ll see.
>>109709298So essentially make it properly opinionated?
>>109710076It fizzled out because Bush stopped being president and normies started liking surveillance again.
>>109710040>Linux was still exclusively a hobby for autistsIt still is, don't kid yourself.
>>109709162What's catchy do that's so gud?
>>109710137It’s still a hobby for autists who like to use shit like NixOS and Slackware, but it’s now also a viable alternative to Windows for regular people who just want to use a desktop that is free of AI slop and H1b code
>>109709162>FOTM slop distro >Shilled by techlet windows refugees who think they're HaXoRmAnZ now because Imma use LINUX>Based on Arch lmaoNaw I don't think I will
>>109710110wouldn't call it opinionated, simply create a toggle between using tested core packages updated every month like what steamOS is doing and freely updating like regular archand push the cachyos package installer and bazaar morethat's really all that would need to be done
>>109710179>”FOTM”>has been exponentially increasing in popularity since 2024>still the most popular distro on various stat trackers with zero signs of slowing down>has long since surpassed Mint as the go-to distro recommended to newcomers>big name influencers are using their clout shepherding scores of people to CachyOS Yeah, you’re coping. You’ll be on /g/ in 2028 still calling it FOTM like a retard
>>109709959it's a screenshot showing how linux is under 1%, you fucking nigger, that's why. it can be inferred multiple ways, you retarded cunt.
>>109709677>The biggest part is that the many packages themselves are optimized for x86v3 instead of x86v1. It gives some performance boost.That performance boost is almost always negligibly small and not something you would notice outside of benchmarking:https://www.phoronix.com/review/cachyos-x86-64-v3-v4In some cases, there are even performance regressions.
>>109710212>Pushed by muh YooToobers! >Used by morons who don't even know what sudo is or does>Cherry picked distro trackers say so!>Distro of choice for sheep brained NPCs who don't even know how to access the terminal>Dumbed down distro so even Chucky can use itNaw I don't think I will. I will continue to use a real Linux distro like Gentoo/Void/Slackware.
>>109710333>>Pushed by muh YooToobers!nigger are you actually retardeddo you think there is a big youtube conspiracy to push a specific distro? it couldn't be because its good and performs incredibly well.. nuh uh can't be that. its a conspiracy. fucking low-iq schizotards have been gassed up way too hard on this shitpile of a site.
>>109710349I'm not the guy you posted to but I don't think he's insinuating that YouTubers all had a meeting called "CachyOS shilling maximus" and went from there. It got popular first and YouTubers boosted it even more. Anon is just pointing that gamer YouTubers are making it more permanently the distro for gaming. You're jumping the gun really fast.
>>109710349NTA but he's not wrong. YouTubers are notorious for pushing FOMO and FOTM this or that for views and subs. NetworkChuck is maxshilling Omarchy. Next month it'll be some other distro. If you trust a YouTuber for anything, you kys.
>>109710333Nobody told you to use it you silly little retard. I don’t use it myself.
>>109709162I installed it on a laptop to test it, and it went great. Now I’m using it on my main PC. I bought a cheap M.2 drive to install and tinker with it. I play only blizzslop (D2R/D4) and some friendslop (Peak/SFVI). No problems so far. The only thing is I had to install some additional NVIDIA drivers—DeepSeek helped me. The best thing is, if something goes wrong, I can keep my disks as NTFS and CachyOS recognizes them, so I could go back to my Windows disk, check what went wrong, and try again. IDK, it just werks overall. Even emulated blizzslop games run smoother, and my PC doesn’t make a sound.>t. esl chilean fat fuck
>>109710566it will change your life forever to run AMD on linux and everything just werks without any driver maintenance.
>>109709162what is the "one simple trick" ?
>>109710684Its linux arch with zen kernel
>>109710566For Nvidia read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIAIt's important to know more or less at least how you should have it setup and your options. Don't rely just on AI. Nvidia has many particularities. The summary is that Windows is very lenient in graphics drivers, so they almost take over all rendering, and make their own assumptions. Then we go to Linux and Nvidia tried to convince their way was the best way but the kernel and wayland devs told Nvidia to fuck off. EGLStreams vs GDM is the most notorious example. Currently Nvidia blob is OpenGL and Vulkan implementations that aren't always compliant, but work for the most part. Everyone else is in MESA. Btw the reason why Linux doesn't get feature parity is probably because you can't simply take over rendering in Linux.>>109710570Yeah and it's going to get more insane because Valve and Collabora managed to get RADV on Windows, so testing why games don't work exactly as expected is going to be easier. They're also infiltrating Windows with will have side effects.
>>109710684click here if you can hold your poke for 20 seconds
>>109709162Their recent update broke the FN + brightness shortcuts on my Fujitsu win tablet. Absolute fucking retards showing their incompetence.
>>109711205>We are sorry that our update broke the compatibility of the FN and brightness keys on your decade-old, random-ass SNCA tablet. This was definitely not caused by your utter blunders and fragile driver setup, but instead by our competence. Is there anything else I can help you with?
>>109711205Install the separate firmware shit retard.
What's stopping me from just installing this on my Arch GNU/Linux instead of this distrohttps://aur.archlinux.org/packages/linux-cachyos
>>109710333you are a retard
>>109711241Did I mention the mouse scroll gesture is now fucked as well? Great job fucktards.
>>109711322Oh anon, I'm very sorry to hear about this. But our intelligence and investigations conclude the result of this being a skill issue on your side.
>>109711258The ISO weighs 3.0GB. How many bits they save by not including the legacy firmware?
>>109711393How many seconds do you save by being an angry faggot and seething about it in 4chan instead of installing the firmware?
>>109710179>fotm >slop >shill>techlet >HaXoRmAnZ>>109710333>pushed >cherry picked >sheep >NPC >dumbed down Your mind is so governed by cliches and pointless platitudes I genuinely feel like you're a government glowie sent to shit up the site so people move to reddit or Discord.
>>109709265>The winning formula is basing it on Archpeak retardation
>>109711393It's a bleeding edge gaming distro.Their whole philosophy is to maximum optimization for modern top end hardware.Your niche weird hardware is not on their priority list. Use a different distro.
>>109711435How is he wrong tho? Gonna provide some arguments maybe?Let me break it down for you in simple terms:>normie only want game>game no work>nerd make fresh fix program on loonix>fresh fix only available on nerd distro (arch/cachy)>no nerd distro (fedora/debian) no get fresh fix>no nerd distro make no game work>nerd disto get fresh fix>nerd distro make game work>normie chose nerd distro>normie recommend nerd distro to more normie>more normie = more developers support all linux>dev support = better software for everyone>you = stupid faggot
>>109711241Windows doesn't have this problem. You can deny it all you like, but Windows is rock solid for older hardware and software support.
>>109711435Arch is peak Linux. Valve went through the trouble of transitioning SteamOS from d*bian to Arch for good reason.
>>109709492You didn't ask, but they also have GPU optimizations, like this: https://github.com/CachyOS/CachyOS-PKGBUILDS/pull/1039 which increases game performance while recording and reduces power usage when watching videos
>>109711504>You can deny it all you likeCalm down. Nobody is denying nothing.
>>109711407>FN+Keyboard backlight works>FN+Volume up/down works>FN+Mute works>FN+Toucpad On/Off works>FN+Display Output Switcher worksHowever >FN+Display Brightness doesn't work.>Touchpad gesture scroll doesn't workMake it make sense
