why did every gui software on linux just look way better before? No matter if gtk or qt. Is it the font choices? The shadows?
>>109710182you have neurocysticercosis
>beforeYou can configure your linux ui to look like that today by installing and using the ubuntu fonts. Mid-00's were a different time and the Human theme predates the spinning cubes and advances in open source GUI's.
>>109710182Never changes...and that's a good thing!
Trying to mimic BeOS is better than trying to mimic bootstrap.css
>>109710182Not just Linux. Windows had possibly the best UI ca. 2000. There was this golden age of UI that was around late 90s up until mid to late 2000. Then for some weird reason everyone seemed to lose their minds and completely abandoned all rules of designing a logical and consistent UI. All of a sudden everyone started to be afraid of proper borders (very important) and proper scroll bars (extremely important, since it's not just a fucking handle, it gives tons of information). Everyone abandoned sane colors for different states, started dismantling everything for no particular reason, all of a sudden you were robbed of proper window separation and scrollbars (for reasons I think of "saving" space but this is ridiculous, they were only like a few pixles in total), not being sure if you are in an active window or not, not being sure where your window ends, you were robbed of useful quick launch and status icons. Basically what happened is that evil won for some reason. Guess it was too much of it.
Unpopular opinionThat ubuntu gui was the prettiest of all timeit was peak cozywindows vista close secondmac os mojave third
>>109710633two answer you question, its because they were made by non estrogenated white men
>>109710182Gay touch UI
>>109710432>>109710495Basically this. They were aping things built by interface designers instead of things drawn by graphic designers.
>>109710182gtk2 had a proper theme engine and Qt pretty much only existed as part of KDE.>>109710355You literally can't though. There might be some themes ported over to newer versions but most of them you can only get with very obscure builds of certain software.>>109710651This is the actual reason. Modern GUI software is built with tablets in mind and often even phones.
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>>109710751>There might be some themes ported over to newer versions butYou might have better luck asking ubuntuforums or askubuntu (or whatever their stackoverflow is called), but my guess is Human used different theme engines. The one in your pic looks like Dapper Drake from 20 years ago which used clearlooks. Around gutsy or feisty era they would switch to murrine.
I still use FVWM, my setup looks identical to how it would have 30 years ago.
>>109710861You can just install that theme on Mate.
>>109710987Yes, but if OP knew that he wouldn't have argued.
>>109710355good fucking luck getting the nu-gnome html+js abomination with server side decorations we have today to look remotely like that
>>109710987does any modern program even respect that nowadays? they barely use toolkits anymore
>>109710182Because modern GUI are made with accessibility in mind. They even get rewards for that. That's why everything is ugly and bloated. Because it's made by activists and no-coders with agenda.
>>109711232the fuck does muh activism have to do with usability you fucking retard? you could have a perfectly good looking interface with voice narration, high contrast and densely packed elementsyou have no idea what you're talking about
>>109711166There are still a lot of maintained GTK2 applications and a lot of GTK3 applications designed like that. It's mostly GTK4 and especially libadiwata that are complete cancer. Due to modern Gnome's attitude.
>>109711232Shut up, Dale.
>>109710861I didn't use a pic, personally I like the Aurora engine. There's also plenty of KDE3 themes that only exist in Trinity now.
>>109711624The Wine Classic theme is god tier on Trinity. Q4OS comes with it.
>>109710182It didn't. That looks like Ubuntu, they fixed a lot of that shit back in the day. Though GTK3+ is absolutely awful.
>>109710495Starting around the year 2000 something fundamental shifted. I believe this was the beginning of the Loosh extraction era. Slowly, many aspects of life begin to morph such to become increasingly offensive to the human senses.9/11 and its many consequencesThe beginning of UI destruction (windows XP was the start, and it really ramped up with Vista)Mass immigration started in the UK destroying the job market for the trades ending simple livesCars started shifting to the new style brake lights that hurt your eyesLED street lightsAfter 2010 the rate of changes really accelerated, with things becoming increasing unbearable. Every single aspect of life that one could derive any pleasure from was slowly taken away.Every single brand of chocolate was ruined.Many other food products were also ruined.Car lights became infinitely more offensive once the LED era started. We got animated turn signals. Eye Searing brake lights. And those retarded day time running lights that turn off on one side when the turn signal activates which looks so utterly retarded.They replaced the old buses with the big displacement engines that had that soothing deep rumble with these eco friendly buses that had a tiny engine that constantly screamed.
>>109710182I didn't know jabber was an actual chat system. We still use it at my company to notify clients of completed computing tasks. We wanna get rid of it and replace it with websockets or whatever though.
Normies constantly shouted at freetards for decades to make their shit look "modern". Freetards are severely autistic and so failed to catch up to contemporary design sensibilities until the last half-decade or so.As it turns out, being retarded is much worse than being autistic, so it turns out that their resistance to UI design trends was entirely justified.
>>109710861it was using murrine gtk2-enginemost iconic themes i remember for ubuntu was murrine human, and later ambiance/radiance on unity7, clearlooks on fedorathere were also some old looking engine/themes like industrial and thinice which were often bundledi remember that murrine, clearlooks, pixbuf was something that was practically everywhere, the other engines were extras
>>109712576If only we had kept JS in the browser...
>>109710182>Is it the font choices? The shadows?no its the white space, both gtk and qt apps now have massive amounts of blank space doing nothing. uis used to be a lot more compact. kde software is especially bod for this alot of it looks ugly for that reason
>>109716414>both gtk and qt apps now have massive amounts of blank space doing nothing.I FUCKING HATE THIS!Especially adwaita stuff looks disgusting because of it.
>>109712287>Cars started shifting to the new style brake lights that hurt your eyesHeh didn't think anyone noticed that, like I don't really care but brake light should light uniformly larger area not be some bright thin line, never understood how that even became legal/got approved. Tho VW/Audi started that and they can do whatever the fuck they want in EU even if it means poisoning people.
>>109710182looks like shit, unc
>>109710495I blame it on this guy, the father of flatshit gui which then leaked from phones to computers.
>>109710182>>109710751Can't you get MATE to look like this pretty easily?
>>109710182>titlebars completely different style/size for t
>>109710182They didn't try to pretend they were iOS.
clearlooks my beloved
>>109716774Mate is GTK3, their themes are alright but it's makeup on a pig.
>>109710417It does, if you use L&F
Old KDE before that gay ass "muh loicense" faggotry was peak Linux desktop, arguably better than contemporary windows counterparts.Then at some point shortly after everyone decided to start acting like a retard and here we are in 2026 with retarded half-assed eyesore desktops.I'm not using Linux on my main desktop until they go back to not being retarded, but now it's been a while the trannies took over so that might prove difficult.
