>MAKE YOUR PROJECT WORK ON LINUX>okay it's really complicated and I don't have the resources but now with AI I could feasibly do i->NO NOT LIKE THAT FUCK YOU DIE DIE DIEWhat is it with Linux users and their constant need to self-sabotage?>t. proudly stitched the screenshots in Paint.NET
>>109713517>communist twitter>most tweets don't even have a single likeYes this definitely needed a thread here.
>>109713517>Find the account>Post was deleted>Most replies to the followup post tell him not to bend and even just block accounts>He won't delete the codeBased. Gimp is dogshit and i refuse to use it, can't wait for PDN support on loonix!
>>109713517Yeah, pretty much.If you're not going to port it properly, don't bother. Is he going to maintain the Linux version? Is he going to be able to keep feature parity? Is he going to be able to fix bugs in it?
>>109713517>>109713779How will he support it if he doesn't know how it works and can't even review the code? Just use more Claude? Did this guy ever have any personal skill or is he just some vibe slopper that picked a specific project to slop on?
i showed massive support for the guy. it's one of the pieces of software i actually miss from my windows days. thankfully wasn't alone in that.>>109713535>>most tweets don't even have a single likethere were many that had 300+. but yes, this did not need a thread here. these are retarded.
>>109713517>What is it with Linux users and their constant need to self-sabotage?by the way most of those retards don't use Linux :P
>>109713779>>109714087Still don't understand the crybabying about this, isn't the core functionality, is an uninteresting DLL that reimplements a deprecated API this program doesn't want to move from (like everything Windows) so Wine can use it instead of its default DLLs. Isn't a novel or notheworthy thing. Isn't even legal to try a proper port because Direct2D is closed source, you only have API calls and some headers to work with.
Are Bluesky threads the new xwitter threads now that shitters can't access the latter anymore?Either way fuck off.
>>109713517>just run 180k random LoC bro, prompt injection doesnt exist btw so its always totally safe!
>>109713535Reddit's shitting their pants too. (Of course.)
>>109713517Isn't this some freeware garbage for wincucks? Who cares?
>>109714193I read it as 18k locHoly shit it's worse than I thought.
>>109713517Nobody cares, we got krita for like 13 years now
>>109713517that's actually really interesting.theoretically if it actually is a clean-room reverse engineer, and not the AI disassembling d2d1.dll secretly, then both WINE and ReactOS could potentially benefit greatly from this as well?
>>109713517ok i guess. native would have been nice but i guess i can try this out later, should make my old workflow a lot smoother.
>>109713517>clean-room reversed engineered>with an LLMel oh el
>>109715678Nothing made with Claude can be "clean-room" if it's possible what you're trying to reverse engineer was in the training data, and there's no way to examine the training data. It's like trying to launder The New York Times copyright on its articles by asking Claude to repeat them back verbatim.
Does it work on MacOS yet? He can slopcode it, I don't care if it works
>>109715761no, it's more like trying to pirate a NYT article by having Claude read the headline and then telling it to write the article.it's possible to clean-room reverse engineer for as long as you can prevent the LLM from spitting back any D2D code verbatim. it'd be very hard to prove otherwise given the D2D source has never been leaked (it did not exist during XP times so its not in that leak), so they could not have used it for training.
>>109713517>Paint.NET is 700k lineswhat
>>109713517I just don't understand screeching about ai code. Nobody actually cares about muh code as craftsmanship, people just want shit that works decently well. If ai sloppa can do that why wouldn't you use it?
>>109716128it's unethical
>>109716134In what way? Because your MIT licensed github code was used for training? Come on now.
>>109716143i have a feeling it was trained on copyrighted code
He should have said he used a Chinese model to vibecode it instead so the bluesky trannies would have been forced to approve.
>>109716162>devs before: software copyright is retarded and leads to absurdities like video codecs stopping genuine progress and being sued by oracle for using java or some patent troll for adding a shopping cart to an online retailer>devs now: OMG WHY IS AI ALLOWED TO TRAIN ON CODE??? THIS IS COPYRIGHT VIOLATION WHICH IS THEFT!!!11blow it out your assfuck copyright in general, and fuck software copyright in particular
what kind of subhuman retard doesnt use platform agnostic libs from the ground up
>>109716186Those largely didn't exist back in the day, or were so bad you wouldn't want to use them anywayNow the only good choices are qt (pay for gui? lol lmao) and electron (every poorfag cries about how their 4gb ram shitbox can't deal with the slight resource overhead)
>>109716195discounting the ram usage, electron is also slow as all fuck
>>109716204>electron is also slow as all fuckWhich is irrelevant since you can bully electron with modern hardware. I don't really care how a laptop from 2018 runs it since I don't own any old shit.If you need to you can also drop down into more optimized languages when needed. Something like vs code is fast as fuck and deals with ~100 MB text files without an issue which brings the average "native" text / code editor to its knees.But then, people moaning about electron performance probably don't even know what flamegraph is, much less ever used it to try and figure out the performance bottlenecks.
If AI companies can bend the law to do illegal stealing, then users should be able to do the same. Just steal all the proprietary code to improve Wine and ReactOS.It was AI that did it, YOU never looked at the proprietary code therefore you didn't steal it! :^)
>>109716349>If AI companies can bend the law to do illegal stealing, then users should be able to do the same. Just steal all the proprietary code to improve Wine and ReactOS.Yeah I agree
>>109713517Dear god that sounds fucking retarded. Nobody wants whatever vibeslopped monstrosity that is. It will be unmaintainable.
>>109715760About to post this. At least microshit is cool with their api usage, unlike oraclel.
>>109713517Kek, seething luddites will never not be hilarious> Nooo why is this freeware not using slave labour> Aaarg I'm going insane
>>109715678Paint.net is probably the only noteworthy program that uses Direct2D. Wine will not be interested in adding 180k lines of fully vibecoded slop in order to support one program. I don't think he plans to release the source anyway, just the DLL.
>>109713517why does a wrapper over direct2D require 180,000 lines? I genuinely don’t get it. why is this simple, not feature rich paint program 700k? it sounds like the entire project is a mess
>>109713517Realistically wouldn't it be simpler, less risky and less likely to trigger schizos to just move the program off from Direct2D? In that case he could have reviewed the AI generated code, or just not disclose that it was AI generated at all.
>>109716448oh, nevermind, “reverse engineered direct2d” lmao why?? I skimmed and just assumed that the developer was sane and wrapped his draw calls like a normal person, but it sounds like rather than do that he would have an AI reverse engineer and reimplement the entire underlying api. what the fuck are we doing, that is an off the charts level of niggerliciousness to cover up poor design decisions and poor project planning20 years? bro probably started it when he was 14 years old and never refactored in his life if he still has a hard coded direct2d dependency
>>109713517>more advanced AI modelshe doesn't know
>>109713517There are a billion paint-like programs for Linux. Just forget about your Baby.DUCK and learn one of those.
>>109713517The correct answer is "no".You don't need to explain to them that it's thousands of LOC to support a shitty IoT lightbulb OS with 1% marketshare, spread across dozens of basically-incompatible distros, used exclusively by poorshits and third-worlders who won't pay for your project anyway - they're too stupid to understand.You instead reply as if a small child asks to drive the car - with "no".
>>109713517>all tranime / furry profile picsyou can't make this shit up
>>109713606>Gimp is dogshit and i refuse to use it, can't wait for PDN support on loonix!Gimp used to be good at playing with the curve to make women's clothes see thru. Doesn't seem to work that well anymore.
>>109714193>repeating random words you don't understand
>>109713517"Vibecoding" large parts of code that you actually care about is cringe, but not as cringe as this religious opposition to any form of LLM usage.
>>109714193>prompt injection doesnt existyes? modern llms are too smart to get prompt injected.https://claude.com/blog/auto-mode-default-in-claude-code
>>109716613>source: anthropic
>>109716613What's the metric for measuring successful injections? Wouldn't they pass without measurement?
700k lines for paint.net? Genuinely wtf? This garbage has basically no feature yet its code is almost the same length as gimp (and longer even if we count the vibeslopped linux afdon)
>>109713517noice.Pinta is some libadwaita infested shit these days, with the usual retarded UI choices that would make ebussy proud. They should have remained a Paint.NET fork.I moved on to krita but knowing i can just use Paint.NET now through wine... hmmm...
>>109713517>What is it with Linux users and their constant need to self-sabotage?Why do you think it's Linux users, and not false-flagging Windows users who lost their exclusive software and use AI as an excuse to bully developer?
>masturbation addicted losers castrate themselves and are suddenly pissed at everythingWow, who could have guessed?
>>109713517what does it have to do with linux? i wouldn't run a 200k of vibeslop on my machine either. he literally disclosed himself that he doesn't himself know how does the code in the .dll work himself either.
>>109716742>himself...himself...himself(sorry for the cringe. i suck at phone posting)
>>109716432every single modern native windows UI (WinUI) since win10 uses d2d to render, as well as all of Microsoft Office. probably a bunch of 2d games too and maybe some 3d games that use 2d rendering somewhere.for some reason i thought PDN was open source but i guess not.
>>109713517I am always returning to GIMP like a battered housewife anyways.Hopefully GIMP will be good now. Hopefully it will. I don't want to pirate adobe products as much as adobe deserves it.But maybe I'll try Affinity Photo instead.Anyways I don't care for artists getting mad at AI slop. They had their chance to shut down the modern art junk like splattering paint on a canvas and getting millions or taping a banana to a wall or a literal pile of trash.They didn't. And now they decide that AI is suddenly the death knell for artists.>ai is fascist according to that one reply on the OP picwatIs fascist just thing I don't like now?
>>109716703They’re all mentally ill trannies which means Linux users
>>109713517> only pigs eat slopHe's right though. Or she... Or xhey. Whatever, you know what I mean.You can tell the world is fucked when someone as delusional as a tranny tells you the truth.
>>109713535>communist twitteractual communists are giving us the political and economical framework to enjoy using GLM 5.3, qwen 3.8, deepseek v4, etc. at ridiculously low/free pricesthese are just western leftist lumpen
>>109716349Second this. This is how it should be.AI models under the hood are just weights and biases, which encode matrixes and vectors, which originally were encoding all sorts of content downloaded from the web.So basically they pirated the entire Internet and trying to sell it on a meter.Avoid generic slop and use AI to aquire the good stuff, use the hole in the law that was created for AI, for your own sake.
>>109716349>>109716858which is why all code should've been, and will inevitably be open and free
>>109713517Lmao mass clitty leak
>>109716766>nowanon it's been that way for 12 years at this point
>>109716134then apply the piracy model to it, persecute the provider of LLMs and not the users (this will never happen btw)
>>109716195>qt (paystop spreading misinfo, its LGPL
>>109716865I don't know if it should've been or not. But I do know that rules cannot be patented or copyrighted. Software is a set of instructions that computers follow. Basically those are rules. IP law was never supposed to govern those.Probably someone like Bill Gates had a different idea at a time. Enforced those. Only to immediately break it and steal from others. And later for Microslop to buy Github and fund OpenAI, which would basically steal the entire Internet, along with all the code in the world. This fucking timeline...
>>109713517i hate AI but using it to write software is really the perfect use case for it, assuming there's some amount of quality control. writing software is autistic drudgery.
>>109714152>run-on question that ends up being a statementDisgusting.
WHY the FUCK would you ever admit that you used AI to generate code? There is literally zero benefit to doing so.
>>109716613Malicious content in prompts are checked with a scripts before feeding it to the llm, it has nothing to do with the model being "smart enuf"
>>109716955to cause mass tranny meltdowns obviously. who cares. what are they going to do? dilate harder ?
>>109713517>bluesky artists>linux userspick one
>>109716183copyrights are not patents retard
>>109713517Paint.net is just a retarded version of Krita, why do people so desperately want to use it?
>>109716219fuck your opinion and fuck you
>>109716955Well, you can't hide it because vibeslopped code is pretty obvious
>>109716955Just like you can read the genai prose/pics/videos, you can also read the code and quickly determine that it was slopped.
>>109716955Because "hey I completely reimplemented direct2d singlehandedly in a short period of time and didn't use AI" would be very hard to believe.
Damn, that's kinda sad.He seems proud of it and all, even the way he's so resolute that it would never have happened, just discounting all the other paths that were available to him.Sad that we let delusions get to this stage but it's such a large part of our society, required to stop people from Ted'ing out. Reinforcement is something that I used to think was harmless, years go by and nah, it's not. People allergic to friction engage in this strange practice, just so long as they are never asked to reflect or question. Building upon the idea of success and good enough.What's more disturbing is that all these years on and it only seems to have gotten worse since the days of Ludwig Wittgenstein and a vague concept of ASI isn't going to deliver us a world in which this problem goes away without the eradication of human society.There's a rotten nihilism to things like this being aired in public. I can only hope for a small mercy to put an end to this person's suffering. Let their vessel be a feast for the bugs.
>>109713517>MAKE YOUR PROJECT WORK ON LINUX WITHOUT AIDoesn't linux and other free projects use AI code now? I can understand not wanting AI in art since the point of art is to not be a tool to express oneself and not to be a mass produced product. but what's wrong with computer programming which is intended to be a mass produced product?
>>109713517>someone does something>tiny bunch of hair trigger twitter troons explode, safely contained in their echo chamber>"hUrR.... wHy R eBerrY 1 LiEk diS?....." - anon
>>109716955>I reverse engineered direct2d here it is, just 180k lines of codeHmmmI get your point but sometimes its obvious
>>109714087>Did this guy ever have any personal skill or is he just some vibe slopper that picked a specific project to slop on?It's his software, paint.net isn't open source. And honestly, that's the biggest problem here. 170k lines of AI generated code that can never and will never be actually looked at by any human.
>>109717127because the code made by the ai isn't at the point (and unlikely will ever be), where you can blindly take the output and expect it to work without issues (bloat, bugs, misbehaviors, hallucinations etc). the slop it produces is also makes it hard to extend and build further upon, so eventually, past certain point, the whole shit collapses from the structural incomprehension. so you have to babysit the agents, and understand the code it produces. and then have a pass to review it. and then regularly clean up produced by it goo-goo gagas, and further adjust the instructions. in linux's codebase, people follow certain standards in this regard, so the final merged output to the codebase is not blindly slopped. but in the case of pain.net it's pure 200k on random slop, that you have to praise the god, that it won't randomly detonate your computer or inject a malware. 200k lines of code is a lot. really fucking a lot. and all of it is unreviewed slop.
>>109717303No code made by anyone is to taken blindly and bug free
>>109713517>retarded dev (not the first time) publicly and proudly announces that he shat out a 180k vibecoded turd nobody can audit>bunch of troons and furries with cartoon avatars get mad about this on a commie echo chamberWhy am I losing time reading this shit?
>>109716668Prompt infection means pathogenic not commensal becauseexcessive worrying about the disease you can't even tell youhave is another disease.Meta-paranoia: subliminal commands undetectably executed alien hand syndrome.
>>109716591>vibesloppers have perfect opsec that run agents in no-internet containerized environmentskys
