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Save before nuked by CIA.
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>logged in xitter screencap thread
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>>109716105
https://x.com/penlume/status/2095372672356212876
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>See all the replies\nContinue to X
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huge win for ai.
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Reminder that sharing posts outside of X violates the terms of service and that your IP address will be sent to Elon himself
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>>109716093
Hey, that number is the property of the NSA.
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>>109716647
based, someone should set up bots that sue them automatically so we can stop with these twitter caps
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>>109716093
that doesn't mean what you think it does retard
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Literally useless numbers which mean nothing for rsa today
Pointless thread for a pointless endeavor
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>>109716093
Meds
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Big if true.
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>>109716093
> 512 bit long first cracked in 90s
> 768 bit long first cracked in 2009
> RSA-260 is 862 bit long, cracked in 2026

Nice. Good luck with RSA-2048. By the time you crack it, people would probably use 8192 bits or more. But still amusing.

> Save before nuked by CIA
You're getting it wrong. 3-letter fags shill for 25519 magic number and tell everyone RSA will be cracked in just two more weeks. And it's been going on for a decade or something. Reason behind it is simple. RSA is actually impossible to crack otherwise than by dumb luck or by secretely weakened keys or info leak via side-channel attacks etc. If a 3-letter fag cannot decide if your hardware uses weakened keys, cannot eavesdrop on your hardware from nearby, they're out of luck already. 25519 magic, however, was designed to be easy to crack. They baked in the backdoor and they are holding the key.

In other words, this thread is just another "RSA cracked by quantum 'puters" fearmongering.
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>>109716718
It's just one key that's been cracked also. Unless the US army is on your ass even rsa-256 is still secure
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trying to crack encryption should be illegal
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>>109717206
based, security researchers finding exploits in cpus should also be illegal
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>>109716655
>look at number
>look closer
>Property of the US Government
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When i tried larping as a privacy nerd there was too much friction, what with gaming and youtube, even IB's. But the internet is becoming so fucking shit nowadays maining something like Tails seems frictionless, due to everything on the internet basically driving me away.

I don't know if this is good or bad.

Possible future setup is Tails to check primary news sources for outside information, airgapped PC with windows and pirated games.

What are the glowies going to do? Use my houses internal wiring as an antenna to track me?
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>>109716718
Fuck off shizo. RSA is obsolete ever since shor
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>>109716729
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>>109716718
They can probably just compromise the encryption at the hardware layer seeing as the biggest hardware and software manufacturers are American companies.
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>>109716647
Goooooooooy!
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>>109717466
The only people inclined to share a Twitter post outside of Twitter are engagement bait jeets. These people should be publicly executed so an IP ban is too humane.
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>>109717225
>>109717206
true we should just shoot these fuckers
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>rsa 260
Wake me up when something actually happens
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For those that don't want the xitter slop with gay retard hype:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_numbers#RSA-260
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>>109716093
>>109716130
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>>109716093
>RSA-260
Oh noes, the pixelart prons I drew on my C64 with KoalaPainter 35 years ago are compromised.
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>>109716093
Another vibeGOD victory
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>>109716093
Uh, RSA has been known to be broken for years.... it's literally only used for education purposes due to its simplicity in explaining asymmetric keys to newbies. Literally nothing uses it. Cool to see the underlining reason.

>>109716647
This.
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>>109717909
>Literally nothing uses it.
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>>109716718
I'm genuinly impressed to see people still this passionate about encryption to have strong opinions on one algorithm over another. Yay. My day is brighter for having seen it.
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>>109717932
Legacy? Outdated software? Nothing modern still uses RSA unless you downgrade.
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I remember finding out somewhere, for every 10 bits added to the number, it takes 3 times more time to factor it.
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>>109717685
>getting glazed by a chatbot
kek
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>>109717987
So, the difference between 1024 bits and 2048 bits in running time to factor it is 3^102.4.
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>>109717685
>verified
>2.34 minutes
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>>109716718
> If a 3-letter fag cannot decide if your hardware uses weakened keys, cannot eavesdrop on your hardware from nearby, they're out of luck already.
Those are some BIG 'if's.
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>>109718035
I've never understood why tinfoils that are always whining about TLAs are the ones connected to a global untrusted network 24/7 that they claim only exists so TLAs can watch them.
It reminds me of those tree-hugging commies who are always crying about sea levels rising - as they buy their 7th beachfront property.
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>>109718035
Not too big. Basically any old hardware settles it, 0 tinkering.
>>109717909
>Uh, RSA has been known to be broken for years
In your head. It was never broken. There is no reason to switch. Literally the reason why I'm posting about it. Because it's THAT obvious that 3-letter fags are behind it and because it was THAT easy for them to fuck you over and make you and most of the world use encryption compromised out of the box.

>>109717265
The only thing shizo is your fairy tales about quantum computers cracking RSA-2048 in two more weeks.
> since shor
Shor algo exists since 1994.
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>>109718066
> It reminds me of those tree-hugging commies who are always crying about sea levels rising - as they buy their 7th beachfront property.
Who? Literally 0 examples of this. Just wealthy liberal politicans do this, with exactly 0 "tree-hugging commies" that do this. Theres no trees on the beach, moran.
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>>109716718
>25519 magic, however, was designed to be easy to crack. They baked in the backdoor and they are holding the key.
Do you have evidence of this?
I will even accept implication, if not.
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>>109717964
lot of enterprises force your computer to use RSA for key exchange because of MitM proxy garbage. No, I am not joking. Yes I am hoping these faggots finally buck break RSA so hard corps will be forced to cry like a bitch all the way to implementing TLSv1.3 with PFS and Quantum safety and watching their middleboxes go up in flames trying to MitM all that traffic.
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>>109718125
> Basically any old hardware settles it, 0 tinkering
WTF are you talking about? Old hardware is especially vulnerable, due to its inabilities to use modern encryption, and old (broken) ones like RSA, are used for downgrade attacks. An attacker places or compromises any node between endpoints, downgrades your "strong" RSA to weaker ones, cracks the encryption, and becomes clear text MitM for what both ends think is secure. This is the most common exploit used by govs and feds for anything that allows "reverse capabilities" or "legacy support" in regards to encryption. RDP is another common one they do this. Police and feds literally have these boxes they set up around protests that act like cell towers, and will downgrade connecting phones encryptions to mass surveil. These things are not sci fi/ schitzod devices.
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>>109718288
Corps, typically just use certs installed on their networked systems to MitM each device they own for packet inspections. Which this method, the encryption scheme is independent.
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>>109718295
They downgrade because of the human backdoor in implementation, not because they crack the RSA with large numbers of bits.
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>>109718241
I'm not Snowden to have that shit. But if you understand RSA, then it should not be too hard for you to understand what it means when encryption was designed such it has a secret made of two parts. One public (the 25519 magic number), one secret.

It is oversimplified and most likely there is no secret key as a singular constant number, rather one would have to brute force it, similar to how some teqniques of hashed password storage require crunching some numbers before you can get teh correct value and confirm the match.
So one part is public (25519), another is content-dependent and requires you to have access to some sort of secret math formula that would spit out the second half. Then you use them to calculate the actul decryption key. Something like that.

The exact mechanism is but a speculation of course. But it is obvious why AES and RSA are universally trusted, while Ec25519 is never used by chinks and russians in security critical scenarios.
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>>109718034
It take a commodore 64 milliseconds to verify it.
It’s literally the entire point.
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>>109718306
not true. current schemes are passive, TLSv1.3 or using !kRSA TLSv1.2 cipher suites will require active MitM.
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>>109718295
> Old hardware is especially vulnerable
Generic one does not have the backdoor. New one does.
We are talking about hardware, but you switched topic to discussing software. Downgrade attack is only possible if software allows that. Unless you are talking about something obscure, like phones. Which is weird, as they already have access, they don't need last mile hax0ring, they can get logs and transcripts directly from your prov.
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>>109718337
>It’s literally the entire point.
Yes exactly, why does the guy brag about the shatbot taking forever to multiply two numbers is what I'm confused about.
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>>109718338
You CANT (as in can NOT) MitM encrypted comms. Nothing outside record now and decrypt later (future attacks). The only legitimate method to do this, is certs installed on each corp device that trust whatever "inspection station" (next generation firewall stuff) theyre using. You can sim this yourself with burp suite or wireshark (and optionally mitmproxy), by installing one of burps or wiresharks certs on you iPhone/android, or other device on the same network as the system with burpe/wireshark. Then proxy your wifi/internet from that device to the burpsuite/wireshark one (or force it to proxy by spoofing the gateway using mitm proxy) any service that uses the burpe or wireshark cert will appear as decrypted traffic on the burpe/wireshark system. The end devices, the users can inspect the connections to see this is happening, however most corps block this from being changeable.
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>>109718360
You all call me a schitzo itt, but your the one arguing there is esoteric hardware backdoors? I get so tired of this. Please present documentation to everyone of this. Youd be super popular. Im telling you how they can effectively "backdoor" everything while not having to conspire to sabotage all hardware (including their own).
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>>109718363
What was the point of this
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>>109718530
funne
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>>109718530
he thought he was being a quirky unique snowflake but hasnt realized anime is normalfag shit nowadays
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>>109718530
To boil off 2 sudanese villages worth of water via data center tokens.
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>>109718513
>Please present documentation to everyone of this
It's called undocumented registers. Try find hardware without it.
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>>109718597
normalfags say they're into anime for some reason but then complain about how every anime is muh diddy blud or whatever. it's just performative
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>>109717553
riddle me this: if their goal is engagement baiting their Xitter post wouldn't posting it here as a screenshot with no link go against that goal?
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>>109718401
>expecting promptmonkeys to understand crypto (the real kind, not the NFT grift kind)
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>>109718772
> literally esoteric claims
Okay cool, but you do know you could just prove one exists in one device without just making wide generalized unsupported claims, and then that ONE proof for ONE device would add support for your generalized claims about other devices, assuming comparable hardware. But as of now, unsupported? Why? Just prove one. Thats it.
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>>109718363
> https://x.com/Takumixbt/status/2095438318552924512
> I asked Claude
> Location (Africa)

Is this nigga's AI retarded? You can just run a basic equation in Python. Do LLMS just say nuh uh instead of checking?
picrel was a reply to that as well. Do AIs not have a way to execute Python or some shit?
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>>109718829
>The plans and schemes of a jam boy should make sense
If they used logic wouldn't they write something other than "gm" and "breaking". The point is to repost bullshit to get engagement but posting a direct link is against many rules so we get screenshot slop.
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>someone claims certain encryption is backdoored on a board nobody cares about
>SOURCE SOURCE PROVE IT WHY YOU GO AGAINST GOVERNMENT NARRATIVE
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>>109719053
>dramatically huffing at a STRANGER about NUMBER THEORY
Why is your AI so much funnier than the tsundere one? Genuinely lol'd. Either way both of you are degens
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Because of this thread, I started to actually read up on 25519, and I didn't even realize it's only for signature, you cannot use it to encrypt data.

Then I actually looked up why they moved to Edwards Curve and why they abandoned the product of two numbers like you do with RSA, and I immediately realized I do not have the mathematical depth for that shit.
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>>109719376
Not my AI. I don't have an AI account.
https://x.com/OmegaNekoSimp/status/2095508214360199322
It's also catastrophically wrong, though which is weird because you can check with an equation in Python. Do LLMs have access to Python or anything? Why are all of the LLMs being asked about this just immediately shitting their pants?
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>>109718468
anon, a proxy serves you trusted (corp) certs is assumed a first step in MitM. No one denies this and no one is confused by this. What matters is algorithm selection which allows for passive decrypt after the fact, which perfect forward secrecy drastically complicates.

shut the fuck up.
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>>109718979
>do know you could just prove one exists in one device without just making wide generalized unsupported claims
As a matter or fact, I do know that. And I can do that: CVE-2025-27840
>>109719053
>>109718363
Missing out on anime wife sure feels bad...
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>>109719434
>why they abandoned the product of two numbers like you do with RSA
Because quantum in two more weeks.
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>>109716093
what does this mean for me exactly?
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>>109718635
If only we could use this technology to actually destroy sudanese villages.
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>>109718066
Nah those commies scrap for welfare checks that get paid to them due to evidence of a past work history (maybe even tax statements cause even Starbucks commies don't want to revert to oil lamps like they're fucking Aladdin)
NEETs don't have none of that shit
They'll get denied benefits
No work history
Not even health insurance
Its so Trump can prevent retard welfare instead of giving it to sone autistic savant going through mechanical engineering school to build bridges
At least once he lands thar job theres prob some nerdy chick he can rizz with his tizz where he can bang her in his apartment while they play Hatsune Miku like the too assburgers they are
Unlike NEET retard fuckhead who drains their parents finances
Ho hum.......
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>>109719778
nothing
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GOMFGXAVFHLYXBEHOURIOGKQGNYUHDWUDNSHKREKDBOHVYTXSWGGGBDOVCJEQTTTJXWKWMFIPKWCIFTHUSGHYUELEVNY

Decrypts his divisor in a Base26 code format.

Think it's just random or has some purpose somewhere in the number selections chosen?
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>>109716093
rope yourself, penlu



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